I want to know how to replace a lock that is in a (unlocked) uPvc door.

The word Yale is on the lock, it is probably eleven years old, and from what
can be seen of the lock whilst it is in the door, its shape looks like a
standard Euro profile cylinder lock. It operates top-and-bottom shootbolts.
Protruding from the door edge is a small triangular cam which engages on a
striking plate on the door frame. When the door is closed, this triangular
cam is depressed, releasing the door handle so it can be lifted upwards to
position the shootbolts (the cam mechanism is very difficult to get to work
at times).

However, there is no long screw at right angles to the lock, holding it in
place, as might be expected with a current Euro profile cylinder. There is
instead a hole in the door frame where the long screw, if there was one,
would go through. At the bottom of this hole I can just make out parts of
the lock which rotate as the door handle is rotated.

Can anyone identify this lock, and tell me if it can be replaced with a Euro
profile cylinder, and how?

(I have asked Yale but so far have had no response.)

"Dee" wrote in message
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I want to know how to replace a lock that is in a (unlocked) uPvc door.

The word Yale is on the lock, it is probably eleven years old, and from
what can be seen of the lock whilst it is in the door, its shape looks
like a standard Euro profile cylinder lock. It operates top-and-bottom
shootbolts. Protruding from the door edge is a small triangular cam which
engages on a striking plate on the door frame. When the door is closed,
this triangular cam is depressed, releasing the door handle so it can be
lifted upwards to position the shootbolts (the cam mechanism is very
difficult to get to work at times).

However, there is no long screw at right angles to the lock, holding it in
place, as might be expected with a current Euro profile cylinder. There
is instead a hole in the door frame where the long screw, if there was
one, would go through. At the bottom of this hole I can just make out
parts of the lock which rotate as the door handle is rotated.

Can anyone identify this lock, and tell me if it can be replaced with a
Euro profile cylinder, and how?

(I have asked Yale but so far have had no response.)


Sounds a bit odd, having said that, a few years ago I came across a euro
cylinder that had been fixed with the screw from inside the frame prior to
the glass being installed.
Good luck..

"Dee" wrote in message
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I want to know how to replace a lock that is in a (unlocked) uPvc door.

The word Yale is on the lock, it is probably eleven years old, and from
what can be seen of the lock whilst it is in the door, its shape looks
like a standard Euro profile cylinder lock. It operates top-and-bottom
shootbolts. Protruding from the door edge is a small triangular cam which
engages on a striking plate on the door frame. When the door is closed,
this triangular cam is depressed, releasing the door handle so it can be
lifted upwards to position the shootbolts (the cam mechanism is very
difficult to get to work at times).

However, there is no long screw at right angles to the lock, holding it in
place, as might be expected with a current Euro profile cylinder. There
is instead a hole in the door frame where the long screw, if there was
one, would go through. At the bottom of this hole I can just make out
parts of the lock which rotate as the door handle is rotated.

Can anyone identify this lock, and tell me if it can be replaced with a
Euro profile cylinder, and how?

(I have asked Yale but so far have had no response.)




There is a correction I must make to my original post. When looking down the
hole where a securing screw would be expected, if there was one, what is
visible is the end of a cylindrical pin which does not move: there are no
parts that rotate when the handle is rotated. The parts that rotate with the
handle are visible through a different hole, and I got the two confused.
Very sorry about that.

Dee.

"Scabbydug" wrote in message
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"Dee" wrote in message
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I want to know how to replace a lock that is in a (unlocked) uPvc door.

The word Yale is on the lock, it is probably eleven years old, and from
what can be seen of the lock whilst it is in the door, its shape looks
like a standard Euro profile cylinder lock. It operates top-and-bottom
shootbolts. Protruding from the door edge is a small triangular cam which
engages on a striking plate on the door frame. When the door is closed,
this triangular cam is depressed, releasing the door handle so it can be
lifted upwards to position the shootbolts (the cam mechanism is very
difficult to get to work at times).

However, there is no long screw at right angles to the lock, holding it
in place, as might be expected with a current Euro profile cylinder.
There is instead a hole in the door frame where the long screw, if there
was one, would go through. At the bottom of this hole I can just make out
parts of the lock which rotate as the door handle is rotated.

Can anyone identify this lock, and tell me if it can be replaced with a
Euro profile cylinder, and how?

(I have asked Yale but so far have had no response.)


Sounds a bit odd, having said that, a few years ago I came across a euro
cylinder that had been fixed with the screw from inside the frame prior to
the glass being installed.
Good luck..

Scabbydug,

I think you may well have got the right answer. You will see from my
correction to my original posting that what is in fact visible down the hole
where one would expect a retaining screw is what I described as a pin.
(Originally I had a very strong low sun in my eyes and I was looking down a
different hole and saw something different.)

Now, only the end of this pin is visible, it is dark and difficult to see.
But it looks as though it may have a screw thread on it. In which case it
could be the end of a Euro profile cylinder retaining screw, it is the right
diameter for such a screw.

So I think that it is highly likely that I have got a situation like the one
you describe, where the lock has been fixed with a screw from inside the
frame prior to the glass being installed. (Do you remember the name of the
fabricator/installer? I wonder if it is the same one). Everything fits that
explanation. What a thing to do! The very idea never occurred to me until
your post, so thank you for that. But I do not fancy trying to remove and
replace glazing beads - it can be a real struggle. The original installers
cracked some glass in their struggle, and had to replace it. The problems
one has to deal with!

Regards, and many thanks for your post,

Dee.

So I think that it is highly likely that I have got a situation like the
one you describe, where the lock has been fixed with a screw from inside
the frame prior to the glass being installed. (Do you remember the name of
the fabricator/installer?

Don't know, I was asked to replace the cylinder by a customer.
I gave him the name of a local double glazing company and left him to get on
with it.

"Scabbydug" wrote in message
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So I think that it is highly likely that I have got a situation like the
one you describe, where the lock has been fixed with a screw from inside
the frame prior to the glass being installed. (Do you remember the name
of the fabricator/installer?

Don't know, I was asked to replace the cylinder by a customer.
I gave him the name of a local double glazing company and left him to get
on with it.


Ok. Thanks