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Hot Water Heater
Changing a couple of faucet washers yesterday. Cut the water off and removed
the washers to take to Lowe$ for comparision. Planning on being gone for a couple hours so I filpped the water heater breaker off just in case sine the water was off. Got back, fixed the faucet, water and breaker back on. Got up this am and no hot water! Flipped the breaker a couple of times and was preparing to remove the elements and noticed that the thing was working again. Question is: Do these things have some sort of a protection circuit or do I have a flaky breaker? |
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Since the breaker was the only thing you touched to shut the heater off, I'd
suspect a bad breaker or bad connection either between the breaker and the panel buss or the wires on the breaker "James" wrote in message .. . Changing a couple of faucet washers yesterday. Cut the water off and removed the washers to take to Lowe$ for comparision. Planning on being gone for a couple hours so I filpped the water heater breaker off just in case sine the water was off. Got back, fixed the faucet, water and breaker back on. Got up this am and no hot water! Flipped the breaker a couple of times and was preparing to remove the elements and noticed that the thing was working again. Question is: Do these things have some sort of a protection circuit or do I have a flaky breaker? |
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I can't tell from here. However, my guess would be the breaker.
Why are you heating hot water? Seems like if it's already hot, you wouldn't need to heat it. In my trailer, I've got a gas fired water heater. I don't need a hot water heater. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com "James" wrote in message .. . Changing a couple of faucet washers yesterday. Cut the water off and removed the washers to take to Lowe$ for comparision. Planning on being gone for a couple hours so I filpped the water heater breaker off just in case sine the water was off. Got back, fixed the faucet, water and breaker back on. Got up this am and no hot water! Flipped the breaker a couple of times and was preparing to remove the elements and noticed that the thing was working again. Question is: Do these things have some sort of a protection circuit or do I have a flaky breaker? |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message news I can't tell from here. However, my guess would be the breaker. Why are you heating hot water? Seems like if it's already hot, you wouldn't need to heat it. In my trailer, I've got a gas fired water heater. I don't need a hot water heater. .... Yes, you do need a "hot" water heater. Or, do you let the water completely cool to its source temp before you turn the heater back on? Get real! |
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"RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message ... Since the breaker was the only thing you touched to shut the heater off, I'd suspect a bad breaker or bad connection either between the breaker and the panel buss or the wires on the breaker It could also be the reset in with the the tank controls.... "James" wrote in message .. . Changing a couple of faucet washers yesterday. Cut the water off and removed the washers to take to Lowe$ for comparision. Planning on being gone for a couple hours so I filpped the water heater breaker off just in case sine the water was off. Got back, fixed the faucet, water and breaker back on. Got up this am and no hot water! Flipped the breaker a couple of times and was preparing to remove the elements and noticed that the thing was working again. Question is: Do these things have some sort of a protection circuit or do I have a flaky breaker? |
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Why are you heating hot water? Seems like if it's already hot, you wouldn't need to heat it. Every time you say that, it just gets dumber. Water heaters are popularly called "hot water heaters"; presumably because they they make hot water, much like a seltzer bottle makes seltzer. Grow up, get over it, whatever. |
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"toller" wrote in message ... Why are you heating hot water? Seems like if it's already hot, you wouldn't need to heat it. Every time you say that, it just gets dumber. Water heaters are popularly called "hot water heaters"; presumably because they they make hot water, much like a seltzer bottle makes seltzer. Grow up, get over it, whatever. Couldn't agree more, poor guy just reads these posts until someone says hot water heater then his little heart goes a flutter and his fingers bang out the same thing that George Carlin sp did in the '70's... He has another album called a place for my stuff maybe he could move on to that one? |
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"James" wrote in message .. . Changing a couple of faucet washers yesterday. Cut the water off and removed the washers to take to Lowe$ for comparision. Planning on being gone for a couple hours so I filpped the water heater breaker off just in case sine the water was off. Got back, fixed the faucet, water and breaker back on. Got up this am and no hot water! Flipped the breaker a couple of times and was preparing to remove the elements and noticed that the thing was working again. Question is: Do these things have some sort of a protection circuit or do I have a flaky breaker? Or is it possible that the water heater cooled off enough that it took some time to reheat after the breaker was turned on? Assuming this is not a demand heater? Put a voltage meter on the breaker and turn it off and on. If there is voltage when there is suppose to be then chalk it up to magic. |
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It could be possible, but the hi temp cutout on a water heater has to be
manually reset, he only flipped the breaker and never touched the tank "HeatMan" wrote in message ... "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message ... Since the breaker was the only thing you touched to shut the heater off, I'd suspect a bad breaker or bad connection either between the breaker and the panel buss or the wires on the breaker It could also be the reset in with the the tank controls.... "James" wrote in message .. . Changing a couple of faucet washers yesterday. Cut the water off and removed the washers to take to Lowe$ for comparision. Planning on being gone for a couple hours so I filpped the water heater breaker off just in case sine the water was off. Got back, fixed the faucet, water and breaker back on. Got up this am and no hot water! Flipped the breaker a couple of times and was preparing to remove the elements and noticed that the thing was working again. Question is: Do these things have some sort of a protection circuit or do I have a flaky breaker? |
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James wrote:
Changing a couple of faucet washers yesterday. Cut the water off and removed the washers to take to Lowe$ for comparision. Planning on being gone for a couple hours so I filpped the water heater breaker off just in case sine the water was off. Got back, fixed the faucet, water and breaker back on. Got up this am and no hot water! Flipped the breaker a couple of times and was preparing to remove the elements and noticed that the thing was working again. Question is: Do these things have some sort of a protection circuit or do I have a flaky breaker? Remember this: "Troubles which go away by themselves usually come back by themselves." If the problem does come back, and you have a voltmeter or test lamp and the requisite knowledge and skill to avoid electrocuting yourself, take the access cover off the water heater, and see if there's voltage on the power input terminals, from line to line and from each line to neutral, before you go near the breaker panel. That'll bifurcate the problem and tell you where to look next. Personally, I'd vote for a "touchy" breaker or its connections. It may have been unecessary to kill power to the water heater for that short time. I understand you were thinking about the possibility of the heater getting emptied and the elements burning out because the water was shut off and someone started opening faucets. Is your plumbing setup such that the locations of the water heater and faucets or appliances could let that occur? Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) "Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented." |
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"James" wrote in message .. . Changing a couple of faucet washers yesterday. Cut the water off and removed the washers to take to Lowe$ for comparision. Planning on being gone for a couple hours so I filpped the water heater breaker off just in case sine the water was off. Got back, fixed the faucet, water and breaker back on. Got up this am and no hot water! Flipped the breaker a couple of times and was preparing to remove the elements and noticed that the thing was working again. Question is: Do these things have some sort of a protection circuit or do I have a flaky breaker? This is turtle. Flakey Breaker or Flakey Tank Thermostat [S], but 99% thinking Breaker. I have seen breakers not want to reset on the first try and will take 3 or 4 flips to get it to take. Now here is what I've seen to try to test your breaker for this. Turn the breaker off for about 30 minutes and then come back and push the breaker to on real slow and don't flip it on. They will usely will do it again if you don't flip the break fast back on. Just push it verey slowly to back on possion. TURTLE |
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Been working fine all day. Neglected to mention it is not yet a year old.
Put a voltmeter on the contacts and am getting good readings. Haven't touched the breaker yet - next time I do it will be to replace it. I do seem to remember hearing a "what was that" when I flipped it back on the first time. I know it is not necessary to shut the heater down unless the tank can drain but I do. My first lesson when I moved away from home - the landlord handed me the key and said "DO NOT turn on the power until I can get down there and turn on the water"....He really should have explained that better "Jeff Wisnia" wrote in message ... James wrote: Changing a couple of faucet washers yesterday. Cut the water off and removed the washers to take to Lowe$ for comparision. Planning on being gone for a couple hours so I filpped the water heater breaker off just in case sine the water was off. Got back, fixed the faucet, water and breaker back on. Got up this am and no hot water! Flipped the breaker a couple of times and was preparing to remove the elements and noticed that the thing was working again. Question is: Do these things have some sort of a protection circuit or do I have a flaky breaker? Remember this: "Troubles which go away by themselves usually come back by themselves." If the problem does come back, and you have a voltmeter or test lamp and the requisite knowledge and skill to avoid electrocuting yourself, take the access cover off the water heater, and see if there's voltage on the power input terminals, from line to line and from each line to neutral, before you go near the breaker panel. That'll bifurcate the problem and tell you where to look next. Personally, I'd vote for a "touchy" breaker or its connections. It may have been unecessary to kill power to the water heater for that short time. I understand you were thinking about the possibility of the heater getting emptied and the elements burning out because the water was shut off and someone started opening faucets. Is your plumbing setup such that the locations of the water heater and faucets or appliances could let that occur? Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) "Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented." |
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"James" wrote in message .. . Changing a couple of faucet washers yesterday. Cut the water off and removed the washers to take to Lowe$ for comparision. Planning on being gone for a couple hours so I filpped the water heater breaker off just in case sine the water was off. Got back, fixed the faucet, water and breaker back on. Got up this am and no hot water! Flipped the breaker a couple of times and was preparing to remove the elements and noticed that the thing was working again. Question is: Do these things have some sort of a protection circuit or do I have a flaky breaker? Why do you want to heat hot water? |
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"RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message ... It could be possible, but the hi temp cutout on a water heater has to be manually reset, he only flipped the breaker and never touched the tank True. But, there is no teling what theose pesky little electrons may have done. I've seen it before where the reset tripped when power was turned back on.... |
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no such thing as a hot water heater. You do not heat hot
waster, but you do heat water with a water heater "HeatMan" wrote in message . .. "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message ... It could be possible, but the hi temp cutout on a water heater has to be manually reset, he only flipped the breaker and never touched the tank True. But, there is no teling what theose pesky little electrons may have done. I've seen it before where the reset tripped when power was turned back on.... |
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no such thing as a hot water heater. You do not heat hot water, but you do heat water with a water heater hey dufus, that joke was old 20 years ago when George Carlin popularized it! |
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