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Rob Ritch March 8th 05 01:45 PM

Systi-Matic Glue Line Rip blade opinions / reviews
 
Due to an unfortunate brain fade I need to replace my ripping blade. I was
making a 45 bevel cut on my TS this weekend and was tired and did not check
to make sure the blade cleared the factory metal insert. Yep you guessed
it, it didn’t. Fired up the saw and immediately got that tell tale sound
of the blade hitting metal. Shut down the saw and checked the blade.
There were not broken or missing teeth, but they were all nice and shiney
on the side that hit the insert. Bottom line I, I now do not trust the
blade, not in the mood to have any teeth flying off the blade while
spinning at ~5,000 RPM. So I am going to replace the blade. The blade I
have is a Freud 24T blade, that was ok, but I was never really happy with
the cut quality. The blade and fence were both aligned within .001 of the
miter slot so it was not an alignment issue. Now for my question, I am
considering the Systi-Matic 24T glue line rip blade, but I have not been
able to find any reviews other than “I have a Forrest and love it” I know
the Forrest is a great blade, but not what I am interested in. I want to
use dedicated ripping and cross cutting blades. Does anyone have real
world experience with this blade, or a recommendation for another dedicated
ripping blade that I should consider? Thanks in advance

-Rob

Leon March 8th 05 02:01 PM


"Rob Ritch" wrote in message
news:1110289556.09ff6da41c36672ae856c373fe78fc86@t eranews...
Due to an unfortunate brain fade I need to replace my ripping blade. I
was
making a 45 bevel cut on my TS this weekend and was tired and did not
check
to make sure the blade cleared the factory metal insert. Yep you guessed
it, it didn't. Fired up the saw and immediately got that tell tale sound
of the blade hitting metal. Shut down the saw and checked the blade.
There were not broken or missing teeth, but they were all nice and shiney
on the side that hit the insert. Bottom line I, I now do not trust the
blade, not in the mood to have any teeth flying off the blade while
spinning at ~5,000 RPM. So I am going to replace the blade. The blade I
have is a Freud 24T blade, that was ok, but I was never really happy with
the cut quality. The blade and fence were both aligned within .001 of the
miter slot so it was not an alignment issue. Now for my question, I am
considering the Systi-Matic 24T glue line rip blade, but I have not been
able to find any reviews other than "I have a Forrest and love it" I know
the Forrest is a great blade, but not what I am interested in. I want to
use dedicated ripping and cross cutting blades. Does anyone have real
world experience with this blade, or a recommendation for another
dedicated
ripping blade that I should consider? Thanks in advance



Rob I have the Systematic Glue Line Rip Blade. I have had it for about 5
years and use it on a cabinet saw set up with similar tolerances. I also
have the Forrest WWII 40 tooth with reg kerf.
The Forrest blows the Systematic Glue Line Rip blade away. I am not saying
that the Systematic does a bad job as I even use it to cross cut of 2 x
construction material with surprisingly good results but the WWII simply
produces superior rips.




Jim March 8th 05 02:51 PM

Rob:

The new Freud LM74 is an outstanding Glue Line rip blade, and while I
haven't tried the Forrest for comparison, I can't imagine how a blade could
do much better than the LM74 (which, in the interest of full disclosure, we
sell). Freud has optimized the blade for cutting 3/4" thick stock. If you
need to cut thicker material, like 1-1/2" thick, this probably isn't the
best choise. Using a properly adjusted cabinet table saw, you can rip 1/16"
wide strips off 3/4" thick stock, then put them back together and you'll be
hard pressed to find the glue lines!

HTH,

Jim Ray, President
McFeely's Square Drive Screws
www.mcfeelys.com


"Rob Ritch" wrote in message
news:1110289556.09ff6da41c36672ae856c373fe78fc86@t eranews...
Due to an unfortunate brain fade I need to replace my ripping blade. I

was
making a 45 bevel cut on my TS this weekend and was tired and did not

check
to make sure the blade cleared the factory metal insert. Yep you guessed
it, it didn't. Fired up the saw and immediately got that tell tale sound
of the blade hitting metal. Shut down the saw and checked the blade.
There were not broken or missing teeth, but they were all nice and shiney
on the side that hit the insert. Bottom line I, I now do not trust the
blade, not in the mood to have any teeth flying off the blade while
spinning at ~5,000 RPM. So I am going to replace the blade. The blade I
have is a Freud 24T blade, that was ok, but I was never really happy with
the cut quality. The blade and fence were both aligned within .001 of the
miter slot so it was not an alignment issue. Now for my question, I am
considering the Systi-Matic 24T glue line rip blade, but I have not been
able to find any reviews other than "I have a Forrest and love it" I know
the Forrest is a great blade, but not what I am interested in. I want to
use dedicated ripping and cross cutting blades. Does anyone have real
world experience with this blade, or a recommendation for another

dedicated
ripping blade that I should consider? Thanks in advance

-Rob




Teamcasa March 8th 05 05:03 PM

Rob Said
Snip
Now for my question, I am
considering the Systi-Matic 24T glue line rip blade, but I have not been
able to find any reviews other than "I have a Forrest and love it" I
know
the Forrest is a great blade, but not what I am interested in. I want to
use dedicated ripping and cross cutting blades.


Leon Said:
Rob I have the Systematic Glue Line Rip Blade. I have had it for about 5
years and use it on a cabinet saw set up with similar tolerances. I also
have the Forrest WWII 40 tooth with reg kerf.
The Forrest blows the Systematic Glue Line Rip blade away. I am not
saying that the Systematic does a bad job as I even use it to cross cut of
2 x construction material with surprisingly good results but the WWII
simply produces superior rips.


Comparing a 24T to a 40T blade is an apples to oranges comparison.
The SystiMatic 37102 50T blade cuts every bit as smooth as my WWII.
Both blades are very sharp, hold up well and have sufficient carbide to
allow for several sharpenings. In fact the SystiMatic has less runout on
the plate than the Forrest. (SM 0.001 - FWW 0.0015) However, both blades
produce identical finishes when ripping, the SM produces a slightly better
finish when cross cutting hardwoods.

IMHO (well not really so humble!) both blades are of equal quality.

Dave



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patrick conroy March 8th 05 06:39 PM


"Rob Ritch" wrote in message
news:1110289556.09ff6da41c36672ae856c373fe78fc86@t eranews...

considering the Systi-Matic 24T glue line rip blade, but I have not been


IIRC, I think Charlie's made some posts saying that SystiMatic's quality has
slipped since they were sold/acquired.
I could be off in the weeds, but that's my recollection - that SystiMatic of
new is not the same as the old.



Leon March 8th 05 11:18 PM


"patrick conroy" wrote in message
...

"Rob Ritch" wrote in message
news:1110289556.09ff6da41c36672ae856c373fe78fc86@t eranews...

considering the Systi-Matic 24T glue line rip blade, but I have not been


IIRC, I think Charlie's made some posts saying that SystiMatic's quality
has
slipped since they were sold/acquired.
I could be off in the weeds, but that's my recollection - that SystiMatic
of
new is not the same as the old.


I am inclined to agree. I bought a Systematic Combo in 1988 and used it
exclusively until 2001. It went with the saw when I sold it. The
Systematic rip blade was really under whelming.




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