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Keith March 7th 05 04:40 PM

Good 8" joiner
 
I'm looking at the grizzly G0500 joiner and would like to hear from others if
that's a good joiner or if I should look at others in the $900-1100 price range.
.. Thanks

[email protected] March 7th 05 07:00 PM

I would look at the DJ 20 8" Delta Jointer. I know it is a little
higher than the others, but all indications point to it being the best.

Good luck
Mike


Duane Bozarth March 7th 05 07:15 PM

wrote:

I would look at the DJ 20 8" Delta Jointer. I know it is a little
higher than the others, but all indications point to it being the best.


Well, if you're getting into "best", I'd be partial to the
Powermatic...but he did limit cost range.... :)

Not anything bad about the Delta, per se, but I'm partial to the
Powermatic...

Keith March 7th 05 08:08 PM

Did you mean the Powermatic 60b joiner. It appears to be $1200 at Amazon which
maybe worth a few more bucks.


Duane Bozarth wrote:

Powermatic



Duane Bozarth March 7th 05 09:00 PM

Keith wrote:

Did you mean the Powermatic 60b joiner. It appears to be $1200 at Amazon which
maybe worth a few more bucks.


No, I'd be leery of the 60B w/o seeing it/using it for quite some
time...it's apparently a cheaper version w/ what is listed as a "sheet
metal" bed--it weighs 300 lb where as the "real" Model 60 (now an "A",
apparently) is 400 lb.

Of, course, it's $1800 or so, out of the range of the original
question...I was just commenting to other responder that if "best" were
the criterion, I have my own preferences...but, I have to admit that
I've not seen much new Powermatic equipment and it appears they're also
under the gun to cut cost so my impressions/likes built on 20-yr old
machines may not be valid for what is presently available new, even from
Powermatic's "old line" machines... :(

jo4hn March 7th 05 09:06 PM

Keith wrote:

I'm looking at the grizzly G0500 joiner and would like to hear from others if
that's a good joiner or if I should look at others in the $900-1100 price range.
. Thanks


I have the G0500 and I am quite pleased with it. I have the standard
(non-helical) head and it cuts smoooooth as a baby's bottom. Fit and
finish were good and setup was fairly easy. I can recommend it.
j4

Highland Pairos March 7th 05 11:17 PM

I just received mine and I can already get nice flat face and edges and
square corners. I was surprised at how loud it was not. Based upon my
limited use, I think its a great machine and can't see any reason to spend
more for something else.

SteveP.

"Keith" wrote in message
news:1110213022.8cfc1d18d8eae24c2898a26cdc19d270@1 usenet...
I'm looking at the grizzly G0500 joiner and would like to hear from others
if
that's a good joiner or if I should look at others in the $900-1100 price
range.
. Thanks




Wilson Lamb March 8th 05 01:38 AM

Check out Leneave Supply, Charlotte, NC.
They have their own deals with the same factories. Their 8" is about $750.
Freight is an issue, but I think they have some good carrier rates lined up.
Wilson
"Keith" wrote in message
news:1110213022.8cfc1d18d8eae24c2898a26cdc19d270@1 usenet...
I'm looking at the grizzly G0500 joiner and would like to hear from others
if
that's a good joiner or if I should look at others in the $900-1100 price
range.
. Thanks




Dave Mack Sr. March 8th 05 03:59 AM


"Duane Bozarth" wrote in message
...
Keith wrote:

Did you mean the Powermatic 60b joiner. It appears to be $1200 at Amazon
which
maybe worth a few more bucks.


No, I'd be leery of the 60B w/o seeing it/using it for quite some
time...it's apparently a cheaper version w/ what is listed as a "sheet
metal" bed--it weighs 300 lb where as the "real" Model 60 (now an "A",
apparently) is 400 lb.


The 60 B is not 300 it is 425 lbs it is listed incorrectly. Try to get one
shipped and see what you pay :)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...arden&n=507846

Read the reveiw on Amazon.

Got one love it.

Dave



Duane Bozarth March 8th 05 03:14 PM

"Dave Mack Sr." wrote:

"Duane Bozarth" wrote in message
...
Keith wrote:

Did you mean the Powermatic 60b joiner. It appears to be $1200 at Amazon
which
maybe worth a few more bucks.


No, I'd be leery of the 60B w/o seeing it/using it for quite some
time...it's apparently a cheaper version w/ what is listed as a "sheet
metal" bed--it weighs 300 lb where as the "real" Model 60 (now an "A",
apparently) is 400 lb.


The 60 B is not 300 it is 425 lbs it is listed incorrectly. Try to get one
shipped and see what you pay :)


I stand corrected--thank goodness--it would be a very bad day if what I
thought was so were to be the fate of Powermatic... :(

Apparently that is a mistake on the Amazon site--I was certainly
surprised to see it but the price differential is so great I'm not sure
what all the difference is--

I went to the WMH site but unfortunately, w/ my dial-up line it's so
slow as to be unusable. I did find the spec for the 60A as 425 lb but
could never load the page for the 60B to try to compare precisely.
Superficial difference appeared to be 230V 3HP magnet starter vs 1-1/2
or 2HP manual starter but that difference alone doesn't seem nearly
enough to justify the price differential.

At $11/$1200, it appears the 60A would be an excellent buy.

Illustrates problem of using Amazon's site as the defining information
for their products--they do have mistakes.

Keith March 8th 05 04:01 PM

These are the specs from WMH
60A
Table ..................................... 8-1/2" x 72"
Head cutting arc .......................... 3"
Knives (3) H.S. steel ..................... 1/8" x 11/16" x 8"
Speed of head (maximum) .................... 7,000 rpm
Knife-cuts-per-minute ..................... 21,000
Maximum depth of cut ...................... 1/2"
Maximum rabbeting cut ..................... 1/2" x 8"
Fence size overall ........................4" x 36"
Height, less stand ........................12-1/2"
Height, with stand ........................35-7/8"
Motor recommended .......................... 3/4 to 2 HP
Weight, domestic crated with stand & motor . 584 lbs.

60B
Table..........................8-1/2" W x 72 L
Cutting arc....................3"
Knives, high speed steel ....three @ 1/8" x 11/16" x 8-1/16"
Knife adjustment.............. springs or jack screws
Maximum speed of cutterhead...7,000 RPM
Knife cuts per minute..........21,000
Maximum depth of cut ........... 1/2"
Maximum rabbeting cut ......... 1/2" x 8"
Fence size overall .............4-3/4" x 38-1/4"
Height, floor to outfeed table. 32"
Overall height, without stand.. 14-1/4"
Overall height, with stand .... 38"
Footprint ...................24" x 17-1/2"
Motor.......................2 HP, 1Ph, 230V or 3HP, 3Ph, 230/460V
Net Weight (Jointer Base)..280 lbs.
Net Weight (2HP Stand) ....113 lbs.
Net Weight (3HP Stand) ...116 lbs.



Did you mean the Powermatic 60b joiner. It appears to be $1200 at Amazon
which
maybe worth a few more bucks.


No, I'd be leery of the 60B w/o seeing it/using it for quite some
time...it's apparently a cheaper version w/ what is listed as a "sheet
metal" bed--it weighs 300 lb where as the "real" Model 60 (now an "A",
apparently) is 400 lb.


The 60 B is not 300 it is 425 lbs it is listed incorrectly. Try to get one
shipped and see what you pay :)


I stand corrected--thank goodness--it would be a very bad day if what I
thought was so were to be the fate of Powermatic... :(

Apparently that is a mistake on the Amazon site--I was certainly
surprised to see it but the price differential is so great I'm not sure
what all the difference is--

I went to the WMH site but unfortunately, w/ my dial-up line it's so
slow as to be unusable. I did find the spec for the 60A as 425 lb but
could never load the page for the 60B to try to compare precisely.
Superficial difference appeared to be 230V 3HP magnet starter vs 1-1/2
or 2HP manual starter but that difference alone doesn't seem nearly
enough to justify the price differential.

At $11/$1200, it appears the 60A would be an excellent buy.

Illustrates problem of using Amazon's site as the defining information
for their products--they do have mistakes.



Keith March 8th 05 04:01 PM

these are the specs from WMH site

60A
Table ..................................... 8-1/2" x 72"
Head cutting arc .......................... 3"
Knives (3) H.S. steel ..................... 1/8" x 11/16" x 8"
Speed of head (maximum) .................... 7,000 rpm
Knife-cuts-per-minute ..................... 21,000
Maximum depth of cut ...................... 1/2"
Maximum rabbeting cut ..................... 1/2" x 8"
Fence size overall ........................4" x 36"
Height, less stand ........................12-1/2"
Height, with stand ........................35-7/8"
Motor recommended .......................... 3/4 to 2 HP
Weight, domestic crated with stand & motor . 584 lbs.

60B
Table..........................8-1/2" W x 72 L
Cutting arc....................3"
Knives, high speed steel ....three @ 1/8" x 11/16" x 8-1/16"
Knife adjustment.............. springs or jack screws
Maximum speed of cutterhead...7,000 RPM
Knife cuts per minute..........21,000
Maximum depth of cut ........... 1/2"
Maximum rabbeting cut ......... 1/2" x 8"
Fence size overall .............4-3/4" x 38-1/4"
Height, floor to outfeed table. 32"
Overall height, without stand.. 14-1/4"
Overall height, with stand .... 38"
Footprint ...................24" x 17-1/2"
Motor.......................2 HP, 1Ph, 230V or 3HP, 3Ph, 230/460V
Net Weight (Jointer Base)..280 lbs.
Net Weight (2HP Stand) ....113 lbs.
Net Weight (3HP Stand) ...116 lbs.

"Dave Mack Sr." wrote:

"Duane Bozarth" wrote in message
...
Keith wrote:

Did you mean the Powermatic 60b joiner. It appears to be $1200 at Amazon
which
maybe worth a few more bucks.


No, I'd be leery of the 60B w/o seeing it/using it for quite some
time...it's apparently a cheaper version w/ what is listed as a "sheet
metal" bed--it weighs 300 lb where as the "real" Model 60 (now an "A",
apparently) is 400 lb.


The 60 B is not 300 it is 425 lbs it is listed incorrectly. Try to get one
shipped and see what you pay :)


I stand corrected--thank goodness--it would be a very bad day if what I
thought was so were to be the fate of Powermatic... :(

Apparently that is a mistake on the Amazon site--I was certainly
surprised to see it but the price differential is so great I'm not sure
what all the difference is--

I went to the WMH site but unfortunately, w/ my dial-up line it's so
slow as to be unusable. I did find the spec for the 60A as 425 lb but
could never load the page for the 60B to try to compare precisely.
Superficial difference appeared to be 230V 3HP magnet starter vs 1-1/2
or 2HP manual starter but that difference alone doesn't seem nearly
enough to justify the price differential.

At $11/$1200, it appears the 60A would be an excellent buy.

Illustrates problem of using Amazon's site as the defining information
for their products--they do have mistakes.



[email protected] March 8th 05 09:07 PM

I upgraded to the 60B from the Jet 6 inch this year.

I love the 60B; it has three blades, the long base and plenty of power.

I run the 60B on the same 15 Amp 230V circuit as my Delta 1 1/2 horse dust
collector with no problems.

It was heavy, but two of us unloaded it off the back of a pickup into my
garage. I got two friends to help take it down into the basement, with no
problems.

If you intend on using a mobile base, it is a good idea to put the mobile
base together and put the cabinet (approx 100 lbs) on the base before
putting the heavy table on the cabinet.

An 8" jointer is a nice thing to have.

H. Smith

www.mvwinc.com


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JC March 8th 05 11:06 PM

I have the G0500. I just got it up and running this week. It is one
heavy muther. Very well made. Works great. You can't go wrong with this
machine. Grizzly is great to deal with. I made a mobile base for it for
just a few bucks. I'll post pics soon.



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