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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 04:55:35 GMT, Rick Cook
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Mark & Juanita wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:20:16 -0500, Tom Watson wrote:


On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:03:45 -0800, charlie b
wrote:

.... snip

Tom, did you ever read Poul Anderson? One of his books (Goblin
Reservation) included a character, an artist, that in the history of the
story's era was remembered for having started his career as an artist with
realism, but later in his life was credited with painting bizarre,
surrealistic fantasies.


"Goblin Reservation" was written by Clifford Simiak.



DOH! [smacks head]. OK, I'm getting old, now I can't even keep things
straight from my mis-spent youth. Thanks for the reminder -- Simak was
another of my favorite authors.


(All together now:
"Hurrah for old Bill Shakespeare
he never wrote them plays.
Just stayed at home, while chasing girls
sand dirty rondelays.")

--RC




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Robatoy wrote:

Does anyone have any plans for a secret compartment I can build into my
car so I can smuggle my pointy stick across the border?
Joe


psst....Joe...leave it at home. NO problem getting pointy sticks here in
Kanuckistan... I'll hook you up ..



But aren't Canadian Pointy Sticks metric? Let's see, 25.4 mm
per inch ... So a 1:6 softwood pointy stick point on a 10 mm stick
diameter - in inches - is (I'm getting a head ache)

Why not make a secret compartment in a Simple Stick that'll
hold your Pointy Stick "for transporting" - protecting the point
and preventing children from injuring themselves. Or, how
about a removable Pointy Stick point which can be kept
separate from the stick component of the Pointy Stick when
the assembled Pointy Stick is not in use?

And how about a device that would cause the "point" to
retract into the "stick" and a large suction cup pop up
over the end of the "stick" when the "point" comes within
1/1024th of an inch of an eye ball. And if OSHA can be
persuaded to make it mandatory ...

Was the old wall mounted pencil sharpener the first
helical wood planer?

Can a Pointy Stick point have a hardness greater than
RC13? ( I think that's marble on the Moh's Scale)
Will cryo- treatment significantly increase the
hardness of high tannin content Point Sticks? What
about woods with a high silica content like teak?

Is a Left Tilt Pointy Stick safer to use than a Right
Tilt Pointy Stick?

Do you use the "point guard" on your Pointy Stick
all the time or does it depend on what type of poking
you're going to be doing?

When you're poking, how close to the "point" do
you grip your Pointy Stick?

Has anyone experienced a "point back" or "stick back"
when "poking", "scratching", "impressing" or "picking"?
If so, have you figured out what went wrong and maybe
what can be done to prevent it from happening again?

For Teeth Cleaning Pointy Sticks, what's the least
gum tissue irritant wood? Are there any woods which
should definitely not be used for this application?

Can the Euro 32 mm system be applied to Pointy
Sticks?

charlie b
Editor (who once again has bitten off way too much . . .)
The Pointy Stick Compendium Project
(soon to be shortened to TPSCP)
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charlie b wrote:
But aren't Canadian Pointy Sticks metric?


No. They are left handed.

Wait. That's the Inglish. Or is it?

Crap!

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"Tom Watson" wrote in message

Sorry Charlie (did I just say that out loud?) but this conflicts with
my own theory on Impressionism, particularly in the regard of those
such as Degas, Cezanne, Renoir, Matisse, Monet, et al, who suffered,
in my firm opinion from poor eyesight, and thought that they were
doing Realism, thus inventing an entire school of visual artwork,
based entirely on the inability to see clearly.

As proof, I offer you the thought that, were I a painter, which I am
not, and were I to paint without having my glasses on, which I would
not, even if I could, I would paint a faithful representation of the
world as I perceived it; unclear, diaphanous, distorted, pastel, and
preposterous.

I am surprised that the art critics have not taken my point.


Well spoken Tom (as usual). What you have not taken into account is the fact
that the art critics (like all of us) can become blinded to anything that
comes from outside their specific profession. Well, maybe not blinded so
much as myopic ... which brings us back to your point (errr pointy stick??).

All too often, here on the wreck, we find opinions challenged almost to the
point of drawing blood. Happily, some reason prevails, and educated
explainations show a workable alternative to the blood, gore, and mayhem
often suggested. Glad you provide a great deal of that positive commentary.

Now ... where did I put my glasses?


Rick



It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them --
Beaumarchais


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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:11:19 -0600, the inscrutable Australopithecus
scobis spake:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:41:21 -0700, Mark & Juanita wrote:

Alright, back on topic. I'm having trouble getting my pointy stick
dimensions correct. Seems I keep screwing up the fractions; would I be
better off converting to metric to make better pointy sticks?


It's easy. Forget the fractions. Use a pointy story stick for all your
measurements. This method also works well when restoring old, odd-sized
pointy sticks, such as Chippednail and Shortenone antiques.


Purists such as myself do not feel that pointing a traditional story
sticks is at all apropos. We'll have nothing to do with yours, TYVM.

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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 04:55:35 GMT, the inscrutable Rick Cook
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"Goblin Reservation" was written by Clifford Simiak.


Simak. I read some of Clifford's novels back in high school
but I don't recall which. I'll have to look the old bloke up
at the library the next time I'm there.


(All together now:
"Hurrah for old Bill Shakespeare
he never wrote them plays.
Just stayed at home, while chasing girls
sand dirty rondelays.")


Drop that "s" on the last line of Uncle Bill's ditty, will ya?

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charlie b wrote:

Has anyone experienced a "point back" or "stick back"
when "poking", "scratching", "impressing" or "picking"?
If so, have you figured out what went wrong and maybe
what can be done to prevent it from happening again?


Common problems. I've just filed a patent for a device called
StickStop consisting of a teflon coated cowhide stretched over a
wooden disk - on the back of which I've attached a handle and a
forearm strap.

I expect to be filthy rich after selling only seven of these devices.

I'm having a bit of difficulty convincing the teflon to adhere to
the cowhide, so it may be a while before I can fulfill your
order. I am, however, encouraging everyone to preorder to
minimize the wait and to help pay for solving our production
difficulties.

--
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DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html
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In article ,
Mark & Juanita wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:03:45 -0800, charlie b
wrote:

...snipped...

Alright, back on topic. I'm having trouble getting my pointy stick
dimensions correct. Seems I keep screwing up the fractions; would I be
better off converting to metric to make better pointy sticks?

[There, is that better?]


Forget about fractions, metric, or tape measures. Just make a pointy
story stick.
--

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Alright, back on topic...



Please include instructions for making my pointy stick scary sharp.


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Jerry S. wrote:


Alright, back on topic...



Please include instructions for making my pointy stick scary sharp.



That's "Scary Sharp (tm)"! You DO NOT want to get on the wrong
side of the Scary Sharp (tm) copyright infringement lawyers.
If you think Coca Cola (tm) protects their brand name wait ''til
you **** off the Scary Sharp (tm) boys!

Now back on topic - the History of The Pointy Stick chapter:

FOX "News" is reporting that the Southern Fundamentalist
Evangelical Judeo-Christian Conference is in the process
of "correcting" Genesis based on a new scroll found near
The Really Dead Sea. Early translations are suggesting
that the actual text reads "On the Seventh Day HE rested,
sitting on the steps of HIS front porch - whittling a Pointy
Stick. And it was good."

FOX has dispatched Geraldo Rivera, their crack investigative
reporter, to the Really Dead Sea area and Hannity (sp?) is
oo his way to interview Jerry Falwell. A four hour "Fair
and Balanced", "objective", "scientific" special will be aired
this weekend on this new Revelation. Stay tuned for date
and time.

On a related note, one of the Mars exploration rovers
has sent back images of what appears to be a Pointy Stick
protruding from the face of an overhanging rock outcrop
named The Overhaning Rock Outcrop. The Mars Team is
studying the images and waiting for infra red, ultra violet
and x-ray images before releasing any more information
on this startling find. The ramifications of finding
Pointy Sticks on other planets is unimaginable.

Now a word from eight of our sponsors.

Hemroids? Have you tried Merk's new Pointy Stick
Hemroid Treatment (tm)? Ask your doctor about Pointy
Stick Hermroid Treatment (tm).
(not available as an Over The Counter treatment. Void
where prohibited by law. Side affects may include
excessive bleading, excrutiating "discomfort", blurred
vision and disrupted lower gastro-intenstinal function.

:
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charlie b


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As to the subcategory of Pointy Sticks (tm?) and Impressing Sticks, for
most of my life I have used a Complex Composite Pointy Stick for
writing. Aside from writing, I also find my CCPS an indispensable aid
to woodworking, for making marks, "Impressing" ala 21st century. Almost
as indispensable as the pointy "DO" end of the CCPS is the opposite
rubbery "UNDO" end.
I impressed upon my children, as they grew up, the value of Pointy
Sticks, and not to take them for granted, as they don't just grow on
trees.
I have some questions..Is "Pointy Stick" a more suitable term to use in
the phrase "It's better than being poked in the eye with a sharp
stick!"? I'm thinking it depends on whether you're talking to swells or
riff-raff. Are the 2 types of sticks related, did one evolve from the
other? Sam

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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:03:45 -0800, charlie b
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I'm also developing a hypothesis that the paintbrush evolved
from the Gnawed Pointy Stick, Gnawing predating both
the Rubbed and Whittled Pointy Stick manufacturing
techniques. I'm still gathering the data to support my
hypothesis and hope to publish sometime early next year.



if your teeth hold out?

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OH


MY


GOD!



You people have too much time on your hands!


(Can somebody give a URL for a website that has plans for a pointy stick?)
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 09:23:45 -0800, the inscrutable charlie b
spake:

Jerry S. wrote:


Alright, back on topic...


Please include instructions for making my pointy stick scary sharp.



That's "Scary Sharp (tm)"! You DO NOT want to get on the wrong


Puhleeeze, that's "ScarySharp(tm)"!


side of the Scary Sharp (tm) copyright infringement lawyers.
If you think Coca Cola (tm) protects their brand name wait ''til
you **** off the Scary Sharp (tm) boys!


See above.


Now back on topic - the History of The Pointy Stick chapter:

FOX "News" is reporting that the Southern Fundamentalist
Evangelical Judeo-Christian Conference is in the process
of "correcting" Genesis based on a new scroll found near
The Really Dead Sea. Early translations are suggesting
that the actual text reads "On the Seventh Day HE rested,
sitting on the steps of HIS front porch - whittling a Pointy
Stick. And it was good."


God is ****ed and is she ever gonna make the Prez. pay for it.


Now a word from eight of our sponsors.

Hemroids? Have you tried Merk's new Pointy Stick
Hemroid Treatment (tm)? Ask your doctor about Pointy
Stick Hermroid Treatment (tm).
(not available as an Over The Counter treatment. Void
where prohibited by law. Side affects may include
excessive bleading, excrutiating "discomfort", blurred
vision and disrupted lower gastro-intenstinal function.


Catherwood recommends Loosener's Castor Oil Flakes, The All-Weather
Breakfast!

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"Tom Watson" wrote in message

Sorry Charlie (did I just say that out loud?) but this conflicts with
my own theory on Impressionism, particularly in the regard of those
such as Degas, Cezanne, Renoir, Matisse, Monet, et al, who suffered,
in my firm opinion from poor eyesight, and thought that they were
doing Realism, thus inventing an entire school of visual artwork,
based entirely on the inability to see clearly.

As proof, I offer you the thought that, were I a painter, which I am
not, and were I to paint without having my glasses on, which I would
not, even if I could, I would paint a faithful representation of the
world as I perceived it; unclear, diaphanous, distorted, pastel, and
preposterous.

I am surprised that the art critics have not taken my point.


'tis a good thing you're *not* a painter. Nothing worse than painting a
pointy stick and thus ruining it's natural beauty.




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As to the subcategory of Pointy Sticks (tm?) and Impressing Sticks, for
most of my life I have used a Complex Composite Pointy Stick for
writing.


You are or work for a Defense Contractor right?

Aside from writing, I also find my CCPS an indispensable aid
to woodworking, for making marks, "Impressing" ala 21st century. Almost
as indispensable as the pointy "DO" end of the CCPS is the opposite
rubbery "UNDO" end.


Are you referring to the greatest enahncement to the impressing
pointy stick - the eraser? Did you know that it was originally
developed as a safety device to protect the Pointy Stick user from
accidental punctures? Some fool who didn't read and understand
ALL the Pointy Stick safety instructions tried to use his pointy
stick to scrape off some blood stains from a piece he was working
on and found that the rubber "point guard" worked far better than
the scraping off function of the Pointy Stick.

I impressed upon my children, as they grew up, the value of Pointy
Sticks, and not to take them for granted, as they don't just grow on
trees.


I'm not certain about them actually being generated by trees but
most of the Pointy Stick stock I've found were within or very
near the drip line of a tree. I suspect there is some relationship
there but won't have time to investigate 'til I get the initial draft
of this compendium completed.

I have some questions..Is "Pointy Stick" a more suitable term to use in
the phrase "It's better than being poked in the eye with a sharp
stick!"? I'm thinking it depends on whether you're talking to swells or
riff-raff. Are the 2 types of sticks related, did one evolve from the
other? Sam


Sharp Sticks predated Pointy Sticks. Sharp Sticks are edge tools
rather than point tools. A Sharp Stick only requires creating
two (2) intersecting planes - the end(s) can be blunt and not
suitable for poking. The Pointy Stick on the other hand is 33%
more complex in that it requires creating a minimum of THREE
(3) planes which all intersect at a single point - "the point"
of the Pointy Stick.

I guess this distincion should be included in TSPSCP report.


s wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:03:45 -0800, charlie b
wrote:

I'm also developing a hypothesis that the paintbrush evolved
from the Gnawed Pointy Stick, Gnawing predating both
the Rubbed and Whittled Pointy Stick manufacturing
techniques. I'm still gathering the data to support my
hypothesis and hope to publish sometime early next year.


if your teeth hold out?


My dontist (that's an EXPENSIVE specialist in the dental professions)
assures me that between the titanium pins and the chromium cobalt
platinum crowns these puppies will hold an edge for at least
another 35-40 years, short of chewing on diamonds (or corn nuts)


painting and Pointy Sticks, only a barbarian would consider
putting paint on a real Pointy Stick - gnawed paintbrush
sticks maybe but not on a real Pointy Stick

It's been a hectic last 6 days and when I skip my naps sleep
deprivation starts having its affects/effects (?) Does that
explain the origin of this thread?

charlie b
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Larry Jacques wrote:
Puhleeeze, that's "ScarySharp(tm)"!



Actually and technically I think it's ScarySharp(tmBennett
Leeds).

That is if you want credit for a name to go to the first
guy/gurl to utter it/use it in print.

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charlie b wrote:
Robatoy wrote:

Does anyone have any plans for a secret compartment I can build into my
car so I can smuggle my pointy stick across the border?
Joe


psst....Joe...leave it at home. NO problem getting pointy sticks here in
Kanuckistan... I'll hook you up ..




But aren't Canadian Pointy Sticks metric? Let's see, 25.4 mm
per inch ... So a 1:6 softwood pointy stick point on a 10 mm stick
diameter - in inches - is (I'm getting a head ache)

Why not make a secret compartment in a Simple Stick that'll
hold your Pointy Stick "for transporting" - protecting the point
and preventing children from injuring themselves. Or, how
about a removable Pointy Stick point which can be kept
separate from the stick component of the Pointy Stick when
the assembled Pointy Stick is not in use?

And how about a device that would cause the "point" to
retract into the "stick" and a large suction cup pop up
over the end of the "stick" when the "point" comes within
1/1024th of an inch of an eye ball. And if OSHA can be
persuaded to make it mandatory ...

Was the old wall mounted pencil sharpener the first
helical wood planer?

Can a Pointy Stick point have a hardness greater than
RC13? ( I think that's marble on the Moh's Scale)
Will cryo- treatment significantly increase the
hardness of high tannin content Point Sticks? What
about woods with a high silica content like teak?

Is a Left Tilt Pointy Stick safer to use than a Right
Tilt Pointy Stick?

Do you use the "point guard" on your Pointy Stick
all the time or does it depend on what type of poking
you're going to be doing?

When you're poking, how close to the "point" do
you grip your Pointy Stick?

Has anyone experienced a "point back" or "stick back"
when "poking", "scratching", "impressing" or "picking"?
If so, have you figured out what went wrong and maybe
what can be done to prevent it from happening again?

For Teeth Cleaning Pointy Sticks, what's the least
gum tissue irritant wood? Are there any woods which
should definitely not be used for this application?

Can the Euro 32 mm system be applied to Pointy
Sticks?

charlie b
Editor (who once again has bitten off way too much . . .)
The Pointy Stick Compendium Project
(soon to be shortened to TPSCP)


Sorry for the late reply, I've been working on my PSTD(Pointy Stick
transportation Device), which will probably bear a marked resemblance to
a hanging clothes rod in the back seat of out vehicle. There will of
course be no clothing hung on it as I do not want to have to have any
pointy stick I am transporting to require recalibration after arriving.
Joe
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In article ,
Mark & Juanita wrote:

Alright, back on topic. I'm having trouble getting my pointy stick
dimensions correct. Seems I keep screwing up the fractions; would I be
better off converting to metric to make better pointy sticks?


Allllright. if you must know...*shakes head*

use this to make one...

http://www.nemi.com/product-pictures...elescoping.htm
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Refering to "Anyone have plans for a jig to make Pointy Sticks"...
http://www.rube-goldberg.com/html/pencil_sharpener.htm

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