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Jim & Sharon February 1st 05 05:41 PM
rust problem
 
In my unheated garage i have 4 big tools with cast iron tops, a unisaw a
jet 18" bandsaw, a jet shaper and a powermatic 54a joiner. with a monthly
application of topcoat the unisaw bandsaw and the shaper
stay rust free but the joiner needs to be recoated at least once a week. Any
idea why the joiner is different than the other three?

My shop goes pretty much unused in the winter.

thanks; Jim

by next winter the garage will be heated and insulated.

Duane Bozarth February 1st 05 05:56 PM
Jim & Sharon wrote:

In my unheated garage i have 4 big tools with cast iron tops, a unisaw a
jet 18" bandsaw, a jet shaper and a powermatic 54a joiner. with a monthly
application of topcoat the unisaw bandsaw and the shaper
stay rust free but the joiner needs to be recoated at least once a week. Any
idea why the joiner is different than the other three?
....

Difference in metallurgy and finish probably...

Glenna Rose February 2nd 05 07:16 AM
writes:
That's my best guess also, Leon. Up here in the Pacific Northwest
(Bonney
Lake, WA)

Bonney Lake. Now that's a name one doesn't hear very often. BTW, you
have a great winery on the hill.

And your sculpture going into town is kewl!

Is Stump Lake still ugly as it can be?

Glenna
(grew up in Wapato but
graduated White River High,
but sense enough to leave, now
150 miles south for forever)

Leon February 2nd 05 02:37 PM

"Phil Anderson" wrote in message
...
That's my best guess also, Leon. Up here in the Pacific Northwest (Bonney
Lake, WA) we just had a ton of rain. Then, it warmed up to an
unseasonably 55-60 degrees. I hadn't been out in the shop for about two
weeks. When I went out and uncovered my tools (unheated, un-insulated
shop) everything looked good but the bandsaw. I always cover all my tools
with a cotton painters tarp. I neglected to cover the bandsaw, which,
coincidentally, was closest to the large shop doors. Although coated with
Topcoat, it had rust totally covering the table. I think all the rain and
then the warm temperatures caused steam to form in the shop, probably
more-so closer to the larger doors. The rust comes off really easily with
a razor blade, so no harm done, but it was a sobering sight.

I find that my sweat or a drop of water will cause rust on my TopCote
covered TS top if I neglect to wipe it off before it dries. IIRC TopCote
which was originally developed by the guys now making and marketing Empire
products. Again IIRC when I first started buying TopCote, 1989, it was
marketed as a product that made the TS top more slippery and made no mention
of preventing rust. I discovered that after using the product that I was no
longer having rust problems after 5 years of fighting rust. I think that
nothing will permanently stop condensation from forming rust but IMHO
TopCote requires the least amount of effort for the most amount of
protection.

Phil Anderson February 2nd 05 05:08 PM

Glenna Rose wrote:

Bonney Lake. Now that's a name one doesn't hear very often. BTW, you
have a great winery on the hill.

Well, not so much a winery anymore. The wine tasting room has been replaced
with an antique store. The restaraunt is still there, though.

And your sculpture going into town is kewl!

Yeah, created by Bonney Lake artist Larry Anderson.

Is Stump Lake still ugly as it can be?

Stump Lake? You mean Lake Tapps? I always thought it was cool that they
let the water out of it each year. Allows the shoreline property owners the
opportunity to build/work on their docks. Yeah, when the water is out, the
stumps look pretty nasty, but when the water is in its proper place, the
lake is one of the most beautiful around.

Glenna
(grew up in Wapato but
graduated White River High,
but sense enough to leave, now
150 miles south for forever)
--

Best Regards, Phil

Living In The Woods Of Beautiful Bonney Lake Washington
Visit My Web Site www.philsfun.com

Glenna Rose February 3rd 05 07:02 AM
writes:

Well, not so much a winery anymore. The wine tasting room has been
replaced
with an antique store. The restaraunt is still there, though.

That stinks! Oh, well, "progress." Many years ago, my son and I would
stop there on the way to my mother's house. It was a good experience, and
I even found a couple of wines I liked, in fact still have one or two
someplace around here (packed when moving). Since I'm not a wine drinker,
that's definitely a compliment to them. We were always going to time it
to have dinner there near sunset. The view has to be incredible. Sadly,
it was a "next time" thing, and now it will never be. Ironically, he is
the one that was most concerned about me getting out and living my life
fully. When I told him there was lots of time left for me, his response
was that there was less than we knew. A lesson I should have already
learned since my little sister died the day before her 21st birthday
leaving behind two babies. Though my son had only 25 years on this old
earth, he did, indeed, live his life fully, living more in this seven
years of adulthood than most live in 50 or more.

One of his many accomplishments was set design and construction for
different high school/college productions around town. No one every
taught him, he just took to it naturally. It's one of the many things
that are part of the everyday life that we take for granted. With him
here, it wouldn't have taken five years to get my table saw back into
service after buying this house! (Of course, I'd probably have never
gotten near it either.)


Stump Lake? You mean Lake Tapps? I always thought it was cool that they
let the water out of it each year. Allows the shoreline property owners
the
opportunity to build/work on their docks. Yeah, when the water is out,
the
stumps look pretty nasty, but when the water is in its proper place, the
lake is one of the most beautiful around.

Yup, that's the one. I could never believe that people would even
consider swimming there! Yuck. I never did hear the story of how it came
to be stumps in a lake. Did they cut the trees and later divert water to
there? I doubt it is like our "stump farms" on the slopes of Mt. Saint
Helen. You probably figured out that it apparently always had the stumps
showing "way back then." g

Do you know if those were Douglas Fir or perhaps Oak trees? For as long
as they've been there, it seems like they must be hardwood. Maybe there's
an old-timer around that knows.

Glenna


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