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CChar1151 January 23rd 05 07:01 AM

Preparing stock for glue up without a jointer
 
Anyone have opinions on how to prepare stock for glue up without a jointer. All
opinions are appreciated.
Thanks!
Cary


JGS January 23rd 05 11:47 AM

Hi Cary,
Do you have a router and a router table? If you do you can add a shim to the
outfeed side of the fence and it will work using a straight bit but usually
requires a bit of friggin. JG


CChar1151 wrote:

Anyone have opinions on how to prepare stock for glue up without a jointer. All
opinions are appreciated.
Thanks!
Cary



Unisaw A100 January 23rd 05 12:26 PM

For edge gluing I use my table saw.

Your Mileage May Vary and you should/will need a good blade
and properly tuned (blade to miter slot/fence to miter slot)
saw.

UA100

Edwin Pawlowski January 23rd 05 03:32 PM


"CChar1151" wrote in message
...
Anyone have opinions on how to prepare stock for glue up without a
jointer. All
opinions are appreciated.
Thanks!
Cary


Depends on what kind of wood. True rough cut may have all sorts of twist and
bends. Much of the rough cut at some places is already skip planed and the
dealer will joint and edge and face for you. Then you just do the other
edge on the table saw with a good blade and finish in a planer.



[email protected] January 23rd 05 03:42 PM

A schedule and setup at the:
http://www.patwarner.com/routertable_jointing.html link.


Zeke January 23rd 05 04:02 PM

In article .com,
says...
A schedule and setup at the:
http://www.patwarner.com/routertable_jointing.html link.


Hi Pat. I finished my version of your router table fence about a month
ago. What a great fence. Thank you! One of the woodworking mags had a
couple of video tips from you demonstrating the use of router sleds, and
I am unable to find them anymore. Do you know if they are still online
anywhere? I've built the sleds from memory and they work great, but I'd
like to see the videos again. Thanks for all of your efforts.
Zeke

BillyBob January 23rd 05 04:03 PM


"CChar1151" wrote in message
...
Anyone have opinions on how to prepare stock for glue up without a

jointer. All
opinions are appreciated.


How about a jointer plane? Of course you need a good way to hold the wood
to be successful. Its takes some doing to get fully set up to joint a board
by hand, but once its done, you can do things really fast on future jobs.

Bob



charlie b January 23rd 05 04:46 PM

CChar1151 wrote:

Anyone have opinions on how to prepare stock for glue up without a jointer. All
opinions are appreciated.
Thanks!


I'm going to assume it's just getting the two edges to
match up "light tight" (hold them together, hold up
to the light and not see light coming through the joint)
that you're asking about. A hand plane will do the
job, longer edges requiring a longer plane like a #7
or #8.

If you hand plane the edges together AND orient the
parts right, the edges don't have to be perfectly
square to the board faces. Getting the mating pairs
of edges straight isn't that hard (well maybe on a
5 or 6 foot length but a joiner might have a little
trouble getting the edges straight unless the
infeed and outfeed tables are pretty long). Getting
the edges square is a little more difficult though
Veritas makes a magnetic clip on guide that sure
helps.

Check this out. It'll explain things better than "all
text". Some decent illustrations are worth far
more than several thousand words.

http://home.comcast.net/~charliebcz/Resawing4.html

charlie b

Upscale January 23rd 05 05:38 PM

"charlie b" wrote in message

I'm going to assume it's just getting the two edges to
match up "light tight" (hold them together, hold up
to the light and not see light coming through the joint)
that you're asking about. A hand plane will do the
job, longer edges requiring a longer plane like a #7
or #8.


I was wondering about another method. Would putting the edges of the boards
together edge to edge, fixing them in place in relation to each other and
then running them through a tablesaw so the blade was in contact with both
those edges at the same time. Would that work? I've seen some fine edges
created with the proper table saw blade.



Unisaw A100 January 24th 05 12:42 AM

Upscale wrote:
I was wondering about another method. Would putting the edges of the boards
together edge to edge, fixing them in place in relation to each other and
then running them through a tablesaw so the blade was in contact with both
those edges at the same time. Would that work? I've seen some fine edges
created with the proper table saw blade.




Fine Woodworking did something similar but different about
15-20 years ago. It was an article on two wavy edges that
would mate up near perfectly. They worked up the edge on
one piece and copy routed it to the next piece (pieces edge
to edge/separated by the diameter of the bit minus a wee
bit).

Mathematically it's flawed but a little glue and proper
clampage and you couldn't tell. Long story short, it looks
good and would seem to work for straight(ish) stock.

UA100

Peter Mance January 24th 05 01:11 AM

I've had some good results clamping the two edges together with a
straight edge then cleaning with a flush trim bit in the router
(referencing the bit against the straight edge).

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George E. Cawthon January 24th 05 05:39 AM

Unisaw A100 wrote:
For edge gluing I use my table saw.

Your Mileage May Vary and you should/will need a good blade
and properly tuned (blade to miter slot/fence to miter slot)
saw.

UA100


My thought also if dealing with 3/4" material even though
what I have used in the past is rather primitive for this
group. Nonetheless, for softwoods, I used a radial arm saw
with a Craftsman, planer blade. Always put a dado in the
edge for a 1/4" x 1/2" piece of plywood, and used 2x4s
across the joints to keep them flat during glue up. Worked
very well as long as I was careful.

Ed Bailen February 3rd 05 02:56 AM

The Nov/Dec 1995 issue of Fine Woodworking described a jig for what
you want to do on pg. 20. Thei suggestion was to prepare a piece of
straight scrap a couple of feet long that is about 3/32 thinner than
the width of your straight cutting router bit, and at least as wide as
your straight cutting bit is long. Across the narrow edge of your
scrap piece, at each end, fasten a couple of battens. The battens
should stick out from the face of the scrap about 1/32" less than the
router base extends from the closest edge of your straight cutting
router bit.

Lay out your boards edge to edge withe the piece of scrap captured
between them. Space everything up off your workbench so the battens
are sitting on the faces of your wood, and the scrap is hanging
between them. Slide a straight edge up to the ends of the battens and
clamp everything down. Remove the jig and run your router down the
straight edge. It should shave a little off both pieces of stock. If
you stock has a very wavy edge, you may need to repeat the setup
several times.

Regards,
Ed

On 23 Jan 2005 07:01:48 GMT, (CChar1151) wrote:

Anyone have opinions on how to prepare stock for glue up without a jointer. All
opinions are appreciated.
Thanks!
Cary




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