Moving PM66 Table Saw
 

I just bought a used 5HP single phase PM66. My problem is that it is
currently located in the shop where I bought it. From what I have found
on Ebay it looks like they weigh between 500 and 600 pounds. I have no
shortage of bodies to lift and I think I have access to a 1 ton truck,
but how do you move it. I don't think I can physically fit enough
bodies around it to drop the weight per person to under 100 pounds thus
very hard to lift 3 feet up to the truck bed. So my thought was to try
to reduce the weight by partially disassembling it. It looks like the
extension wings should come off pretty easily, is this true? If so how
hard are they to realign. Second, can I pull the motor? Again if so how
hard is it to reinstall?
Does anyone have experience moving these buggers?
BTW SWMBO let me buy it (She actually wrote the check;-)) she wont let
me rent a lift truck as they are like $200 for the distance I need
(unless perhaps someone here has one near seattle and wants to share).
Wyatt

Take the fence and rails off. Remove the top with wings attached. Remove
the motor. Two people can handle the parts. Watch out for shims or spacers
under the bolts holding the top to the cabinet (if there, they need to go
back in the same places).

Go to the powermatic web site and download the manual. This will show you
what you are in for. If it is well aligned now; you can move it and be back
in business the same day. You will need proper tools to align it (straight
edge and TS-Aligner Jr).


--
Alan Bierbaum

Web Site: http://www.calanb.com
Current project: http://home.comcast.net/~cabierbaum/

"hikinandbikin" wrote in message
ups.com...
I just bought a used 5HP single phase PM66. My problem is that it is
currently located in the shop where I bought it. From what I have found
on Ebay it looks like they weigh between 500 and 600 pounds. I have no
shortage of bodies to lift and I think I have access to a 1 ton truck,
but how do you move it. I don't think I can physically fit enough
bodies around it to drop the weight per person to under 100 pounds thus
very hard to lift 3 feet up to the truck bed. So my thought was to try
to reduce the weight by partially disassembling it. It looks like the
extension wings should come off pretty easily, is this true? If so how
hard are they to realign. Second, can I pull the motor? Again if so how
hard is it to reinstall?
Does anyone have experience moving these buggers?
BTW SWMBO let me buy it (She actually wrote the check;-)) she wont let
me rent a lift truck as they are like $200 for the distance I need
(unless perhaps someone here has one near seattle and wants to share).
Wyatt

On 20 Jan 2005 08:49:47 -0800, "hikinandbikin"
wrote:

I just bought a used 5HP single phase PM66. My problem is that it is
currently located in the shop where I bought it. From what I have found
on Ebay it looks like they weigh between 500 and 600 pounds. I have no
shortage of bodies to lift and I think I have access to a 1 ton truck,
but how do you move it. I don't think I can physically fit enough
bodies around it to drop the weight per person to under 100 pounds thus
very hard to lift 3 feet up to the truck bed. So my thought was to try
to reduce the weight by partially disassembling it. It looks like the
extension wings should come off pretty easily, is this true? If so how
hard are they to realign. Second, can I pull the motor? Again if so how
hard is it to reinstall?
Does anyone have experience moving these buggers?
BTW SWMBO let me buy it (She actually wrote the check;-)) she wont let
me rent a lift truck as they are like $200 for the distance I need
(unless perhaps someone here has one near seattle and wants to share).
Wyatt



pull the top.

use a hand truck.

hikinandbikin wrote:

Does anyone have experience moving these buggers?

Rent a trailer with a low bed and a rear ramp.

Barry

My PM66 is a 3hp w/50" fence. It was fully assembled from point of
purchase. I rented a van and the shop lifted it in with a forklift. When
I got it home, with winter snow helping, I managed to slide it down to
the ground and skid it into the front of the house. Anyway... to answer
your question. Just take the major parts off. I carried it all
downstairs, I think my wife helped me with the cabinet, the rest I did
by myself. I'm sure I used a 2-wheeler for many sections.

It does not hurt to have the "Just bought this awesome new tool" juice
flowing through your veins.

New or used, I'd still check & adjust alignment as needed.

hikinandbikin said the following on 1/20/2005 10:49 AM:
I just bought a used 5HP single phase PM66. My problem is that it is
currently located in the shop where I bought it. From what I have found
on Ebay it looks like they weigh between 500 and 600 pounds. I have no
shortage of bodies to lift and I think I have access to a 1 ton truck,
but how do you move it. I don't think I can physically fit enough
bodies around it to drop the weight per person to under 100 pounds thus
very hard to lift 3 feet up to the truck bed. So my thought was to try
to reduce the weight by partially disassembling it. It looks like the
extension wings should come off pretty easily, is this true? If so how
hard are they to realign. Second, can I pull the motor? Again if so how
hard is it to reinstall?
Does anyone have experience moving these buggers?
BTW SWMBO let me buy it (She actually wrote the check;-)) she wont let
me rent a lift truck as they are like $200 for the distance I need
(unless perhaps someone here has one near seattle and wants to share).
Wyatt

When I got my Jet cab saw. I stripped it down to cabinet with motor removed,
wings unattached, but the main section of table attached. That piece was
probably about 225 lbs IIRC. It was not too tough for two of us to get it up
a flight of stairs. Reinstalling the motor was a bitch. The wings and fence
a no big deal to reinstall and align.

If you can handle the 300lb cabinet/motor/main top reinstalling the rest
should be a snap. Of course a PM66 may have another 75 lbs of iron hidden
somewhere :-)

-Steve


"hikinandbikin" wrote in message
ups.com...
I just bought a used 5HP single phase PM66. My problem is that it is
currently located in the shop where I bought it. From what I have found
on Ebay it looks like they weigh between 500 and 600 pounds. I have no
shortage of bodies to lift and I think I have access to a 1 ton truck,
but how do you move it. I don't think I can physically fit enough
bodies around it to drop the weight per person to under 100 pounds thus
very hard to lift 3 feet up to the truck bed. So my thought was to try
to reduce the weight by partially disassembling it. It looks like the
extension wings should come off pretty easily, is this true? If so how
hard are they to realign. Second, can I pull the motor? Again if so how
hard is it to reinstall?
Does anyone have experience moving these buggers?
BTW SWMBO let me buy it (She actually wrote the check;-)) she wont let
me rent a lift truck as they are like $200 for the distance I need
(unless perhaps someone here has one near seattle and wants to share).
Wyatt

On 20 Jan 2005 08:49:47 -0800, "hikinandbikin"
wrote:

Does anyone have experience moving these buggers?

Nope. But I moved my Wadkin, which is very similar.

The source was very close to a friend's house, where three of us had
previously spent a whole day struggling to install his massive lathe.
So we tooled up equally and went off to do battle.

It was almost embarassing. 5 minutes with a wrench took the table off
the body, and the fence rails and wings off the table. Then I used a
simple sack truck to wheel each piece into the van, and lifted them in
on my own. On driving home I put it all together by myself. I hadn't
even taken the motor off it.

There were five of us standing around this thing and I'd brought my
hydraulic engine crane with me. None of it was needed. Once you get
that table off, they're a piece of cake.


Putting the table back on is harded, because there's an alignment to
worry about. But you needed to check that and maybe reset it anyway,
so that's no great inconvenience.

--
Smert' spamionam

Thanks all appreciate your good ideas and information. I am excited to
get my new saw in Hand picking it up Saturday morning. :-) You have no
idea how big this grin really is.
W

Take the top off and two people can move it. Use a hand truck to cart the
base around and you can tip it on to the truck and two people can push it
in. No big deal. I brought home a General 18 inch bandsaw that two of us
loaded and I unloaded it myself. According to the book it weighs 450 pounds.
max

I just bought a used 5HP single phase PM66. My problem is that it is
currently located in the shop where I bought it. From what I have found
on Ebay it looks like they weigh between 500 and 600 pounds. I have no
shortage of bodies to lift and I think I have access to a 1 ton truck,
but how do you move it. I don't think I can physically fit enough
bodies around it to drop the weight per person to under 100 pounds thus
very hard to lift 3 feet up to the truck bed. So my thought was to try
to reduce the weight by partially disassembling it. It looks like the
extension wings should come off pretty easily, is this true? If so how
hard are they to realign. Second, can I pull the motor? Again if so how
hard is it to reinstall?
Does anyone have experience moving these buggers?
BTW SWMBO let me buy it (She actually wrote the check;-)) she wont let
me rent a lift truck as they are like $200 for the distance I need
(unless perhaps someone here has one near seattle and wants to share).
Wyatt

I move them by myself all the time. I tip it on to the tailgate of the
pickup, lift the bottom and push. It slides right in. I probably end up
lifting about 100# if that much. You can then stand it back up (my
reccomendation) for hauling.

--
Ross
www.myoldtools.com
"hikinandbikin" wrote in message
ups.com...
I just bought a used 5HP single phase PM66. My problem is that it is
currently located in the shop where I bought it. From what I have found
on Ebay it looks like they weigh between 500 and 600 pounds. I have no
shortage of bodies to lift and I think I have access to a 1 ton truck,
but how do you move it. I don't think I can physically fit enough
bodies around it to drop the weight per person to under 100 pounds thus
very hard to lift 3 feet up to the truck bed. So my thought was to try
to reduce the weight by partially disassembling it. It looks like the
extension wings should come off pretty easily, is this true? If so how
hard are they to realign. Second, can I pull the motor? Again if so how
hard is it to reinstall?
Does anyone have experience moving these buggers?
BTW SWMBO let me buy it (She actually wrote the check;-)) she wont let
me rent a lift truck as they are like $200 for the distance I need
(unless perhaps someone here has one near seattle and wants to share).
Wyatt

On 20 Jan 2005 08:49:47 -0800, "hikinandbikin"
wrote:

I just bought a used 5HP single phase PM66. My problem is that it is
currently located in the shop where I bought it. From what I have found
on Ebay it looks like they weigh between 500 and 600 pounds. I have no
shortage of bodies to lift and I think I have access to a 1 ton truck,
but how do you move it. I don't think I can physically fit enough
bodies around it to drop the weight per person to under 100 pounds thus
very hard to lift 3 feet up to the truck bed. So my thought was to try
to reduce the weight by partially disassembling it. It looks like the
extension wings should come off pretty easily, is this true? If so how
hard are they to realign. Second, can I pull the motor? Again if so how
hard is it to reinstall?
Does anyone have experience moving these buggers?
BTW SWMBO let me buy it (She actually wrote the check;-)) she wont let
me rent a lift truck as they are like $200 for the distance I need
(unless perhaps someone here has one near seattle and wants to share).
Wyatt


Remove the wings. These are very heavy. Remove the rails. These can
make the saw awkward to move. You can remove the two cranks (these
are heavy cast iron). Leave the motor as is. With the wings and
rails removed, you should be able to move all the parts fairly easily.
A hand truck is useful. Be careful not to lose any screws or small
parts. Re-assembly and tune up should be a 2-3 hour job. If you need
a PM66 manual, ask.

Alan Bierbaum wrote:

Take the fence and rails off. Remove the top with wings attached. Remove
the motor. Two people can handle the parts. Watch out for shims or spacers
under the bolts holding the top to the cabinet (if there, they need to go
back in the same places).
....

If you have people, can get by w/o the whole top--just the fence, wings
and motor are enough. Then, use some blocking for an intermediate point
and set the bottom on the truck first. The table then gives a good
handhold to rotate it up. Two of use did it w/ mine...

Isn't there any dock at the shop at all, though?