Hi folks, we have just posted a review of Aussie company Ozito's new mitre
saw stand.
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saw stands to this model.
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 14:17:59 +1000, "Woodcrafter"
wrote:

Hi folks, we have just posted a review of Aussie company Ozito's new mitre
saw stand.
For the U.S. and International readers, other company's also sell similar
saw stands to this model.
You can read the review he
www.onlinetoolreviews.com

Also, there are only 24 more hours to submit your entry to win a Bosch 18v
cordless drill.
For those that haven't entered yet, get your entry in now! Only one entry
per person of course.

We welcome you to drop in and browse through over 70 other woodworking
product reviews.

Have a great new year's eve, and new year!

Dean,

you run the risk of giving Ozito credibility it doesn't deserve. Of
all of their products I have seen, this must be an anomaly. I bought a
6"cut-off grinder that (catastrophically) self destructed on the third
cut so I swore off them. Friends of mine that have purchased them have
similar tales. Their poor quality continues to surprise me, I am
amazed that Australian authorities allow these things to be connected
to the town power supply at all.

I have no doubt that your review of the mitre stand is objective and
accurate, however, to anyone else reading this, do not think that
Ozito makes a decent product, *especially* the electrical items - they
are absolute crap! IMHO, they are bordering on being a danger to the
user.

As for Bunnings (Oz for Borg), they should be ashamed of themselves
for pushing this junk on the public.

If you think I am being harsh, a friend of mine in the tool dept at
Bunnings agrees, and told me that Ozito has the highest return rate of
anything he has seen to date.

BTW, your router review in Oz Wood was a good one. The Axminster
review didn't compare to the UK review, where they have their largest
market, but I guess that's to be expected. Next time perhaps a
comparison table for the features would be nice, but I guess the
editor determines what he puts in the final article.

cheers,

Greg

Hi greg,

Thanks for the comments.
Yes I agree with some of Ozito's electrical tools... rather ordinary indeed.
But, of course, the miter saw stand doesn't have any electrical components
and not a ton of features. Its fairly basic, as are most similar stands. It
seems to do the job it was created for. Sure it could be a little finer in
its tolerances, but you aren't paying $1000 for it so you have to compromise
somewhere I guess

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"Groggy" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 14:17:59 +1000, "Woodcrafter"
wrote:

Hi folks, we have just posted a review of Aussie company Ozito's new
mitre
saw stand.
For the U.S. and International readers, other company's also sell similar
saw stands to this model.
You can read the review he
www.onlinetoolreviews.com

Also, there are only 24 more hours to submit your entry to win a Bosch
18v
cordless drill.
For those that haven't entered yet, get your entry in now! Only one entry
per person of course.

We welcome you to drop in and browse through over 70 other woodworking
product reviews.

Have a great new year's eve, and new year!

Dean,

you run the risk of giving Ozito credibility it doesn't deserve. Of
all of their products I have seen, this must be an anomaly. I bought a
6"cut-off grinder that (catastrophically) self destructed on the third
cut so I swore off them. Friends of mine that have purchased them have
similar tales. Their poor quality continues to surprise me, I am
amazed that Australian authorities allow these things to be connected
to the town power supply at all.

I have no doubt that your review of the mitre stand is objective and
accurate, however, to anyone else reading this, do not think that
Ozito makes a decent product, *especially* the electrical items - they
are absolute crap! IMHO, they are bordering on being a danger to the
user.

As for Bunnings (Oz for Borg), they should be ashamed of themselves
for pushing this junk on the public.

If you think I am being harsh, a friend of mine in the tool dept at
Bunnings agrees, and told me that Ozito has the highest return rate of
anything he has seen to date.

BTW, your router review in Oz Wood was a good one. The Axminster
review didn't compare to the UK review, where they have their largest
market, but I guess that's to be expected. Next time perhaps a
comparison table for the features would be nice, but I guess the
editor determines what he puts in the final article.

cheers,

Greg

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 05:02:19 GMT, Groggy
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:

remove ns from my header address to reply via email


Hear here on the Ozito crap label. I bought one to do one job, and
that's all it did. It simply self-destructed its guts.

I am surprised at the quality of GMC stuff, though. I have a cordless
drill from them and it's done me very good service so far.

Dean,

you run the risk of giving Ozito credibility it doesn't deserve. Of
all of their products I have seen, this must be an anomaly. I bought a
6"cut-off grinder that (catastrophically) self destructed on the third
cut so I swore off them. Friends of mine that have purchased them have
similar tales. Their poor quality continues to surprise me, I am
amazed that Australian authorities allow these things to be connected
to the town power supply at all.

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 13:06:47 +0800, Old Nick
wrote:
Hear here on the Ozito crap label. I bought one to do one job, and
that's all it did. It simply self-destructed its guts.

I think this may be the same company that makes the self destructing
tape machines for the Mission Impossible movies...


I am surprised at the quality of GMC stuff, though. I have a cordless
drill from them and it's done me very good service so far.

I have probably witheld comment on GMC long enough. I agree with you,
it seems to be good value for money - though clearly not the top of
the range. My comfort zone puts it at around Ryobi, probably better. I
have a nail gun (electric) made by GMC (Global Machinery Corporation)
that continues to soldier on. It fires a wrong 'un on occasion but it
hasn't been a major problem, I can always tap them down with a hammer
(remember them?) and set punch.

GMC appears to be a good value for money option, certainly a mile
above Ozito. Perhaps Bunnings is selling Ozito as an object lesson to
us all, so we learn to buy decent tools g.

Greg

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 06:02:58 GMT, Groggy
wrote:

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 13:06:47 +0800, Old Nick
wrote:
Hear here on the Ozito crap label. I bought one to do one job, and
that's all it did. It simply self-destructed its guts.

I think this may be the same company that makes the self destructing
tape machines for the Mission Impossible movies...


I am surprised at the quality of GMC stuff, though. I have a cordless
drill from them and it's done me very good service so far.

I have probably witheld comment on GMC long enough. I agree with you,
it seems to be good value for money - though clearly not the top of
the range. My comfort zone puts it at around Ryobi, probably better. I
have a nail gun (electric) made by GMC (Global Machinery Corporation)
that continues to soldier on. It fires a wrong 'un on occasion but it
hasn't been a major problem, I can always tap them down with a hammer
(remember them?) and set punch.

GMC appears to be a good value for money option, certainly a mile
above Ozito. Perhaps Bunnings is selling Ozito as an object lesson to
us all, so we learn to buy decent tools g.

Maybe, Bunnings is our "Borg" here in NZ as well. I was in there a few
days back looking for a cheap planer (long story and its a one-off
special job) and the sales "associate" even advised me to steer clear
of the Ozito as they "were pretty crappy"

OTOH, I have a couple of GMC tools and they seem to be good. One that
has had a real pounding for a year now is the corded right angle drill
(RAD400, IIRC) It's very powerful and has never given a spot of
bother.

Barry Lennox

Groggy wrote:
Perhaps Bunnings is selling Ozito as an object lesson to
us all, so we learn to buy decent tools g.


I've always held the belief that this is one reason for
Sears to stay in the tool business. When the upgrade is
finally made there is a new found respect and the poor
guy/gurl is rewarded with something better/a prize for
holding out so long with their (insert name of crappy
tool/machine here).

Nowadays though people (we call them trust fund babies) go
out and buy Unisaws as their first saws and they haven't a
clue/think it's normal.

On the other hand, people buy a bad/nasty/piece of crap tool
when they are starting out can become frustrated and give up
before they realize "they all aren't like that", after all,
"it's a Craftsman and they are the best" and walk away for
good/never to be heard from again.

Though with the Internet this is probably happening with
less frequency/they realize that there is something beyond
what they have.

Just a couple/few random thoughts. Please, talk amongst
yourselves.

UA100

"Unisaw A100" wrote in message
...

On the other hand, people buy a bad/nasty/piece of crap tool
when they are starting out can become frustrated and give up
before they realize "they all aren't like that", after all,
"it's a Craftsman and they are the best" and walk away for
good/never to be heard from again.

Though with the Internet this is probably happening with
less frequency/they realize that there is something beyond
what they have.

Just a couple/few random thoughts. Please, talk amongst
yourselves.


I don't know. I think it's more true that people really do understand that
there are differing levels of quality and even accept, to a degree, that
entry level tools are not the highest quality, and accept them for what they
are. In some cases, this means they are all that is necessary for the
amount of use they will ever receive, or for the type of work they will ever
do, and in some cases it may mean that the user recognizes that they will
have to determine if they really even want to engage in a greater use of
tools before jumping in to bigger and better purchases. I really don't
believe a bad tool drives too many people away. Those who are really
interested to any degree are fully capable of understanding and recognizing
that better things are out there. I just don't buy the notion that bad
tools have ever caused people to abandon a pursuit. In fact, I'd argue that
quite the opposite is true. I'd argue that bad tools has caused many a
workman to develop better skills, greater understanding, and a better sense
of solving problems than the super dooper top of the line doomahickey.
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-Mike-