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gw December 16th 04 03:18 PM

Max size for cabinet door?
 
I'm in the process of designing a pantry for a kitchen remodel. The pantry
cabinet will be 30" wide, 84" high, and 24" deep. I was planning to use the
lower 60" of the cabinet as pantry space, with a double-door cabinet above.

Due to the cabinet's right edge being against a wall, I would like to use a
single door on the cabinet, hinged on the left. The door would have a 4"
deep set of wood shelving on the inside for storage of canned goods and
small items. If I use a double door, the shelving on the inside of the right
door would block access to the cabinet shelves, as the door will not open
past 90 degrees.

This would give me a door approx. 29" wide and 59" high. I'm using a
frame-and-panel overlay door, in birch. I was figuring on using a center
stile and making it a 2 or even a 4 panel door to avoid having a huge panel.

Any other suggestions - is this a bad idea? How many hinges should I use to
support the weight?

-Gary



Leon December 16th 04 05:19 PM

Like mare has indicated, do you have 30" of room to swing the door with out
YOU having to move out of the way when you open it?

"gw" wrote in message
...
I'm in the process of designing a pantry for a kitchen remodel. The pantry
cabinet will be 30" wide, 84" high, and 24" deep. I was planning to use
the
lower 60" of the cabinet as pantry space, with a double-door cabinet
above.

Due to the cabinet's right edge being against a wall, I would like to use
a
single door on the cabinet, hinged on the left. The door would have a 4"
deep set of wood shelving on the inside for storage of canned goods and
small items. If I use a double door, the shelving on the inside of the
right
door would block access to the cabinet shelves, as the door will not open
past 90 degrees.

This would give me a door approx. 29" wide and 59" high. I'm using a
frame-and-panel overlay door, in birch. I was figuring on using a center
stile and making it a 2 or even a 4 panel door to avoid having a huge
panel.

Any other suggestions - is this a bad idea? How many hinges should I use
to
support the weight?

-Gary





Richard Cline December 16th 04 07:17 PM

In article , "gw"
wrote:

The 24" depth makes it difficult to access the back of shelves. I like
the idea of making slide out units like drawers. It provides full
access.

Dick

I'm in the process of designing a pantry for a kitchen remodel. The
pantry
cabinet will be 30" wide, 84" high, and 24" deep. I was planning to use
the
lower 60" of the cabinet as pantry space, with a double-door cabinet
above.


-Gary



Chris Melanson December 16th 04 07:25 PM

Use a 3/4" scribe down the right edge to give clearance for your doors on
the right hand side and look for the euro 170 degree hinges for the left
hand side as they open 170 degrees as opposed to the 110 degree as the
regular ones do so it should fix your access prob. I would never make a
cabinet door over 22 inches for anything they become to large and bulky past
that piont.

Chris Melanson
BLH Millwork Ltd.


"gw" wrote in message
...
I'm in the process of designing a pantry for a kitchen remodel. The pantry
cabinet will be 30" wide, 84" high, and 24" deep. I was planning to use
the
lower 60" of the cabinet as pantry space, with a double-door cabinet
above.

Due to the cabinet's right edge being against a wall, I would like to use
a
single door on the cabinet, hinged on the left. The door would have a 4"
deep set of wood shelving on the inside for storage of canned goods and
small items. If I use a double door, the shelving on the inside of the
right
door would block access to the cabinet shelves, as the door will not open
past 90 degrees.

This would give me a door approx. 29" wide and 59" high. I'm using a
frame-and-panel overlay door, in birch. I was figuring on using a center
stile and making it a 2 or even a 4 panel door to avoid having a huge
panel.

Any other suggestions - is this a bad idea? How many hinges should I use
to
support the weight?

-Gary





gw December 16th 04 09:01 PM


"Leon" wrote in message
. com...
Like mare has indicated, do you have 30" of room to swing the door with

out
YOU having to move out of the way when you open it?


I have plenty of room for swing - about 7' from the face of the cabinet to
the opposite counter.

"gw" wrote in message
...
I'm in the process of designing a pantry for a kitchen remodel. The

pantry
cabinet will be 30" wide, 84" high, and 24" deep. I was planning to use
the
lower 60" of the cabinet as pantry space, with a double-door cabinet
above.

Due to the cabinet's right edge being against a wall, I would like to

use
a
single door on the cabinet, hinged on the left. The door would have a 4"
deep set of wood shelving on the inside for storage of canned goods and
small items. If I use a double door, the shelving on the inside of the
right
door would block access to the cabinet shelves, as the door will not

open
past 90 degrees.

This would give me a door approx. 29" wide and 59" high. I'm using a
frame-and-panel overlay door, in birch. I was figuring on using a center
stile and making it a 2 or even a 4 panel door to avoid having a huge
panel.

Any other suggestions - is this a bad idea? How many hinges should I use
to
support the weight?

-Gary







gw December 16th 04 09:53 PM


"Chris Melanson" wrote in message
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Use a 3/4" scribe down the right edge to give clearance for your doors on
the right hand side and look for the euro 170 degree hinges for the left
hand side as they open 170 degrees as opposed to the 110 degree as the
regular ones do so it should fix your access prob. I would never make a
cabinet door over 22 inches for anything they become to large and bulky

past
that piont.

Chris Melanson
BLH Millwork Ltd.

Thanks for the suggestions - I'm going to re-think it.


"gw" wrote in message
...
I'm in the process of designing a pantry for a kitchen remodel. The

pantry
cabinet will be 30" wide, 84" high, and 24" deep. I was planning to use
the
lower 60" of the cabinet as pantry space, with a double-door cabinet
above.

Due to the cabinet's right edge being against a wall, I would like to

use
a
single door on the cabinet, hinged on the left. The door would have a 4"
deep set of wood shelving on the inside for storage of canned goods and
small items. If I use a double door, the shelving on the inside of the
right
door would block access to the cabinet shelves, as the door will not

open
past 90 degrees.

This would give me a door approx. 29" wide and 59" high. I'm using a
frame-and-panel overlay door, in birch. I was figuring on using a center
stile and making it a 2 or even a 4 panel door to avoid having a huge
panel.

Any other suggestions - is this a bad idea? How many hinges should I use
to
support the weight?

-Gary







gw December 16th 04 09:58 PM


"mare" lid.com wrote in
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gw wrote:

I'm in the process of designing a pantry for a kitchen remodel. The

pantry
cabinet will be 30" wide, 84" high, and 24" deep. I was planning to use

the
lower 60" of the cabinet as pantry space, with a double-door cabinet

above.

Due to the cabinet's right edge being against a wall, I would like to

use a
single door on the cabinet, hinged on the left. The door would have a 4"
deep set of wood shelving on the inside for storage of canned goods and
small items. If I use a double door, the shelving on the inside of the

right
door would block access to the cabinet shelves, as the door will not

open
past 90 degrees.

This would give me a door approx. 29" wide and 59" high. I'm using a
frame-and-panel overlay door, in birch. I was figuring on using a center
stile and making it a 2 or even a 4 panel door to avoid having a huge

panel.

Any other suggestions - is this a bad idea? How many hinges should I use

to
support the weight?


IMNSHO it's a bad idea. Not because the door would be too heavy, but
because you need also 30 inches in front of it. And having a door on the
right of a room that opens towards you (hinges left) is also not very
practical because it means you need to evade the door and so you need
even more room to open it. Since pantries need to be accessed often this
takes just too much time, effort and walking.

Suggestions:

- use double doors and don't attach anything to the right door.
- use a caroussel type shelving unit with only one door (right hinged
but on the left side of pantry) if you open that door the shelves open
up.

- use a slide out larder unit; this gives you easy access to the pantry
shelves and gives you way more practical storage.

http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/pa...&category=3,43
648,43653


I was planning something more along the lines of this:
http://www.kraftmaid.com/storage/ind...solutionid=219

As it is preferred by SWMBO over the pull-outs or the carousels. Maybe I'll
dump the door shelves and go with a double or a bi-fold door.

Thanks for the ideas.


--
mare




Leon December 16th 04 10:43 PM


"gw" wrote in message
...

"Leon" wrote in message
. com...
Like mare has indicated, do you have 30" of room to swing the door with

out
YOU having to move out of the way when you open it?


I have plenty of room for swing - about 7' from the face of the cabinet to
the opposite counter.


With that in mind, do you want to treat that cabinet as if you were opening
your front door to go out side each time you open it.




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