Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I have
a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a pair of
Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as well.
Thanks in advance.
Jerry

Maskman wrote:

Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I have
a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a pair of
Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as well.
Thanks in advance.
Jerry

Like the Peltier (sp?) neck band type myself, doesn't get in the way of
my face shield or dust mask, just check the attenuation graph is good
for the type of sound your dealing with, some are poor at certain
frequencies.
One day I'll buy some with FM radio built in, maybe...

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 22:58:33 GMT, Badger
wrote:

Like the Peltier (sp?) neck band type myself,

Peltor. Keep an eye out on the UK mil-surplus trade for Peltors, but
get the fat-dome sort, not the useless thin-dome under-the-helmet
ones.

I used to have a set of Peltier earmuffs, but one ear got roasted and
the other got frostbite...

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 22:58:33 GMT, Badger
wrote:

One day I'll buy some with FM radio built in, maybe...

Howdy,

I will mention that I have a pair, and though it is
certainly pleasant to listen to the radio while I am on my
tractor, the noise reduction aspect is not great.

All the best,

--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

Get a pair that's comfortable to wear, otherwise you'll be less likely
to put them on. I have tried in-the-ear types that are supposed to be
better at reducing dBs, but I find these to be a hassle and somewhat
uncomfortable. I like the lightweight muff type.

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 21:07:25 GMT, "Maskman"
wrote:

Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I have
a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a pair of
Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as well.
Thanks in advance.
Jerry

Shouldn't have put in the batteries then...

Andy Dingley wrote:

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 22:58:33 GMT, Badger
wrote:

Like the Peltier (sp?) neck band type myself,

Peltor. Keep an eye out on the UK mil-surplus trade for Peltors, but
get the fat-dome sort, not the useless thin-dome under-the-helmet
ones.

I used to have a set of Peltier earmuffs, but one ear got roasted and
the other got frostbite...

I use a pair of Pelter.

Maskman wrote:

Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I have
a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a pair of
Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as well.
Thanks in advance.
Jerry

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 01:43:12 GMT, Phisherman wrote:

Get a pair that's comfortable to wear, otherwise you'll be less likely
to put them on. I have tried in-the-ear types that are supposed to be
better at reducing dBs, but I find these to be a hassle and somewhat
uncomfortable. I like the lightweight muff type.

I prefer the ear plugs and find them more comfortable than the ear-muffs.
Maybe if I found a set of muffs that didn't spring too tight and didn't
flatten my ears like little pancakes, I would have a different opinion. I
buy sets of 100 pairs of plugs and re-use each pair several times -- a box
lasts a long time.


On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 21:07:25 GMT, "Maskman"
wrote:

Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I have
a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a pair of
Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as well.
Thanks in advance.
Jerry

"Phisherman" wrote in message
...
Get a pair that's comfortable to wear, otherwise you'll be less likely
to put them on. I have tried in-the-ear types that are supposed to be
better at reducing dBs, but I find these to be a hassle and somewhat
uncomfortable. I like the lightweight muff type.


I know they're pricey, but has anyone tried the noise reduction phones from
Bose? I've heard my brother's pair (he uses them for traveling) but he's
never put them to any power tool test.

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 21:07:25 GMT, "Maskman"
calmly ranted:

Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I have
a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a pair of
Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as well.
Thanks in advance.

Find the local Harbor Freight store and look for their sales.
A kit with dust mask, goggles, and decent muffs is normally $10,
on sale for $5 quite often. I got a couple extras last time. If
you want more muffling, add foam earplugs, but I run the table
saw, router, a gas weedeater, and a 9mm with the muffs on. They
work just fine for all 4 tasks.


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Hi Jerry,

It's great that you're thinking about this - I also work in the
basement with a lot of power tools. About 10 years ago, I decided
that I have to get used to wearing some hearing protection -
if not simply because both my parents gradually lost some
of their hearing as they aged.

I now wear something when I mow the lawn, use the power
washer or work in the shop. It's a no-brainer and simply
dumb not to - just like eye protection.

What to buy? I think anything is better than nothing. I
sort of set a -25 DB "standard" for myself and it seems
to work fine. If I see a -23 DB on sale, that's fine too.

About $15 at the BORG.

Like anything in audio, every DB costs exponential
$ in either direction.

Lou

In article cMKsd.196950$HA.12153@attbi_s01, Maskman
wrote:

Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I have
a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a pair of
Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as well.
Thanks in advance.
Jerry

I don't remember the brand, but I use a pair sold at wal-mart in the
sporting goods department for shooting. They are affordable ($10-$15),
comfortable and work very well. I keep mine on a hook attached to my Dewalt
thickness planer, as I wear them EVERY time I use it. I will somethime use
them with other tools, especially if for a prolonged amount of time.

Joe in Denver
my woodworking website:
http://www.the-wildings.com/shop/



"Maskman" wrote in message
news:cMKsd.196950$HA.12153@attbi_s01...
Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I
have a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a
pair of Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit
as well.
Thanks in advance.
Jerry

loutent wrote:
I now wear something when I mow the lawn, use the power
washer or work in the shop.

I don't bother with hearing protection when I mow the lawn. Instead, I
use one of these...

http://www.reelmowersetc.com/standard_Light.htm

"Roy Smith" wrote in message news:roy-

I don't bother with hearing protection when I mow the lawn. Instead, I
use one of these...

http://www.reelmowersetc.com/standard_Light.htm

I don't bother with hearing protection for the lawn either. I can hardly
hear the mower when grandson is pushing it.

In the shop I have a pair of the muff type and they work well enough. In
the winter, I hold them in front of the heater for a few seconds before
putting them on.

On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 19:09:07 -0700, Mark & Juanita wrote
(in article ):


I prefer the ear plugs and find them more comfortable than the ear-muffs.
Maybe if I found a set of muffs that didn't spring too tight and didn't
flatten my ears like little pancakes, I would have a different opinion. I
buy sets of 100 pairs of plugs and re-use each pair several times -- a box
lasts a long time.

I'm a target shooter and have always prefered the yellow foam in-the-ear
type. Much better for me since most muffs preclude wearing a brimmed hat and
I find I can hear fine (conversation, etc.) with them in.
_Everyone_ Is different WRT this however. The key is comfort and convenience,
if you don't like them you won't use them. Every high dB encounter causes
damage, even "just one more pass" with the planer without protection.

-Bruce

Larry Jaques wrote in
:

snip
I got a couple extras last time. If
you want more muffling, add foam earplugs, but I run the table
saw, router, a gas weedeater, and a 9mm with the muffs on. They
work just fine for all 4 tasks.

9mm router bits? Carving tools? Dovetail saw?

Whatcha saying here, Larry? ;-)

Patriarch

I used to have a set of Peltier earmuffs, but one ear got roasted and
the other got frostbite...

You need a reverse polarity switch.

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 18:17:37 -0800, Larry Jaques
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:

remove ns from my header address to reply via email

When you wear a pair of decent muffs, IME you realise that the "mask
and muff set" ones are not as good as you might think. They are not
bad at high frequencies, but even then they are not as good as a
decent set.

Find the local Harbor Freight store and look for their sales.
A kit with dust mask, goggles, and decent muffs is normally $10,
on sale for $5 quite often. I got a couple extras last time. If
you want more muffling, add foam earplugs, but I run the table
saw, router, a gas weedeater, and a 9mm with the muffs on. They
work just fine for all 4 tasks.


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I don't remember the brand, but I use a pair sold at wal-mart in the
sporting goods department for shooting. They are affordable ($10-$15),

i've got a pair of those and a couple of others the idea being i'll just leave
them at the machine. of course eventually they all end up some place far from
the noise.

bob making sawdust in salem or.

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 02:15:55 GMT, "mark"
wrote:


"Phisherman" wrote in message
.. .
Get a pair that's comfortable to wear, otherwise you'll be less likely
to put them on. I have tried in-the-ear types that are supposed to be
better at reducing dBs, but I find these to be a hassle and somewhat
uncomfortable. I like the lightweight muff type.


I know they're pricey, but has anyone tried the noise reduction phones from
Bose? I've heard my brother's pair (he uses them for traveling) but he's
never put them to any power tool test.


Howdy,

I had two pair...

They work when there is a noise at a steady frequency (such
as in an airplane) but they have a very serious flaw:

I was wearing pair #1 on a flight, and fell asleep. I was
awakened to a fierce high frequency whine. It had, of
course, come from the headset.

Eventually, I found that by manipulating the ear cups, I
could make the set produce that noise, and so returned them
to Bose.

They gave me a new pair with no hassle.

Pair #2 (a newer model that allows the earcups to rotate for
packing) did precisely the same thing in it also produced
the same deafening noise.

I returned those and was amazed when the Bose storekeeper
said "Yeah, they all do that..."

In my opinion, the Bose noise-canceling headset is a
dangerous item to wear.

All the best,

--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

One word, Peltor.

UA100

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 21:07:25 GMT, "Maskman"
wrote:

Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection.

Don't limit yourself to muffs. Plugs are cheap, work with face
shields and hard hats, and handy for hot, humid days. I keep some
throwaways around just for the days when they are more comfortable and
for visitors.

As for muffs, I like Peltor. I have some 29 and 31 dB NRR models that
are comfy. I haven't seen a good set of muffs in home centers. Check
gun shops, industrial supply houses (Grainger), and real tool stores.
Our local BORGs only carry 21 dB models.

Barry

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 02:15:55 GMT, "mark" wrote:


I know they're pricey, but has anyone tried the noise reduction phones from
Bose? I've heard my brother's pair (he uses them for traveling) but he's
never put them to any power tool test.


I've used them in light aircraft, and see no reason why they wouldn't
work in a shop. I'd be nervous about dropping them.

However, earmuffs the cost of a 13" planer aren't my ideal solution.
G

Barry

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 21:42:43 -0500, Roy Smith wrote:


I don't bother with hearing protection when I mow the lawn. Instead, I
use one of these...

http://www.reelmowersetc.com/standard_Light.htm


I could probably finish my lawn in 10-12 hours with that. G

Reel mowers do a nice job, though. They're the standard golf course
machine when ganged together.

Barry

In article cMKsd.196950$HA.12153@attbi_s01, "Maskman" wrote:
Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I have
a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a pair of
Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as well.

I use Peltor muff-type protectors. Comfortable and effective. A bit pricy,
but this is not an area where you should be trying to cut costs: there's only
ten or fifteen dollars difference between the Peltors and the cheapo
home-center protectors that block only 2/3 as much sound.

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Barry responds:

I don't bother with hearing protection when I mow the lawn. Instead, I
use one of these...

http://www.reelmowersetc.com/standard_Light.htm


I could probably finish my lawn in 10-12 hours with that. G

Reel mowers do a nice job, though. They're the standard golf course
machine when ganged together.

Yes, well, we cut something like 1-1/2 acres. No thanks.

Given a choice, I wouldn't cut anything other than the pieces around my shop
and in front of the house, but my wife removes that choice. So it's to Briggs &
Stratton we go.

Charlie Self
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy."
Edgar Bergen, (Charlie McCarthy)

I'm a target shooter and have always prefered the yellow foam in-the-ear
type. Much better for me since most muffs preclude wearing a brimmed hat and
I find I can hear fine (conversation, etc.) with them in.
_Everyone_ Is different WRT this however. The key is comfort and convenience,
if you don't like them you won't use them. Every high dB encounter causes
damage, even "just one more pass" with the planer without protection.

-Bruce

===============================================
I am a Skeet and Trap shooter ...and until about 5 years ago I fired
at least 500 rounds each week in competation, and more for practice...

I too prefer plugs over muffs ... (Lee Sonic is the brand I use...)

However in my shop....I have not found I really need to use them...

Bob Griffiths. . .

Ba r r y wrote:

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 02:15:55 GMT, "mark" wrote:


I know they're pricey, but has anyone tried the noise reduction phones
from
Bose? I've heard my brother's pair (he uses them for traveling) but he's
never put them to any power tool test.


I've used them in light aircraft, and see no reason why they wouldn't
work in a shop. I'd be nervous about dropping them.

However, earmuffs the cost of a 13" planer aren't my ideal solution.
G

You might find this of interest
http://www.thetravelinsider.info/roadwarriorcontent/planequietnc6headphones.htm.
Bose isn't the only game in town.

Woodcraft has an active noise cancelling earmuff with no audio connection
for 30 bucks
http://www.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=5128&gift=False&0=d ept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D10000%26Tree%3D%2CDepartme nts&1=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D1049%26menu%5Fid%3D %26Tree%3D0%2CShop%20Safety%20%26%20Accessories&2= dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D1110%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tre e%3D1%2CSafety%20%2D%20Ears&Gift=False&mscssid=F11 42FF9ED5241F095D266AE2DE68E8E

In the same price range as Bose, but a pro product, not a consumer product,
and again with no music capability, you find "Wolf Ears",
http://www.ayoob.com/cgi-bin/miva?Merchant2/merchant.mv+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=Ayoob&Product_C ode=1030A.
I met someone who had a set of those at a shooting range one time and he
let me try them--they are absolutely superb in that environment--not sure
how they work with power tools though, but suspect they're fine. Note that
they're built into a David Clark Model 27, which is an excellent passive
hearing protector in its own right.

Or if price is no object, David Clark has a good range of electronic noise
cancelling headsets in the $600 range
http://www.davidclark.com/HeadsetPgs/aviation.shtml#enc.



Barry

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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I
have
a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a pair
of
Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as well.
Thanks in advance.
Jerry


Consumer Reports recommended, and I tend to agree, that a belt/suspenders
approach is best - muffs and plugs. The Howard Leight Orange plugs work
very well. I find that spitting on them helps insert them in the ear. It
grosses my wife out, though.

Then any muffs at the BORG will probably suffice.

On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:44:11 -0500, "Buck Turgidson"
wrote:

I find that spitting on them helps insert them in the ear. It
grosses my wife out, though.

Hey Buck,

Put them in your own ears... bg

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On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 03:54:44 GMT, patriarch
calmly ranted:

Larry Jaques wrote in
:

snip
I got a couple extras last time. If
you want more muffling, add foam earplugs, but I run the table
saw, router, a gas weedeater, and a 9mm with the muffs on. They
work just fine for all 4 tasks.

9mm router bits? Carving tools? Dovetail saw?

Whatcha saying here, Larry? ;-)

Black powder-powered steel-and-composite perp-stopping tool. I use
the muffs for range practice. When they had the machine-gun shoot,
wearing both plugs and muffs was jusssssssst right.


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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:44:11 -0500, "Buck Turgidson"
calmly ranted:

Consumer Reports recommended, and I tend to agree, that a belt/suspenders
approach is best - muffs and plugs. The Howard Leight Orange plugs work
very well. I find that spitting on them helps insert them in the ear. It
grosses my wife out, though.

I can imagine. I like the orange bell-shaped plugs and use them
inverted, wide side in. Since I sleep with them (Damned neighbor
dogs), that way, my ears don't hurt in the morning. I sleep on my
side so I found that the wide part made the outer part of my ear
hurt when squished into a pillow for hours.


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Larry Jaques wrote:
Black powder-powered steel-and-composite perp-stopping tool.

The first time my eldest son (four years old) saw a gun was in a framing
shop with me, where they were displaying their ability to put an object
in a deep frame. As a result, I was caught completely flat-footed when
he asked me what it was. "A machine for making holes over long
distances" is what I came up with, and he spent a little while thinking
a gun was kinda like a drill press for when you couldn't be bothered to
walk over to whatever you were drilling in.

-BAT

I can imagine. I like the orange bell-shaped plugs and use them
inverted, wide side in. Since I sleep with them (Damned neighbor
dogs), that way, my ears don't hurt in the morning. I sleep on my
side so I found that the wide part made the outer part of my ear
hurt when squished into a pillow for hours.

I never pack a suitcase without them either. I usually end up in a hotel
with a bunch of conventioneers. Once I ended up in a Louisville Hotel which
happened to be hosting the Kentucy State Funeral Director's convention.
Thet're a lively crowd....

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 13:00:45 -0500, Buck Turgidson wrote:

I never pack a suitcase without them either. I usually end up in a hotel
with a bunch of conventioneers. Once I ended up in a Louisville Hotel
which happened to be hosting the Kentucy State Funeral Director's
convention. Thet're a lively crowd....

Reminds me of a stay in a hotel that was housing the attendees of a
Shriners convention. Too bad the funeral guys weren't there - while
gathered in the hotel lounge, one of the Shriners dropped dead and fell
backwards off his bar stool. His buddies covered him up with a table
cloth, said a few words in his memory and continued pounding down their
libations. I wasn't thirsty any longer...

-Doug

In article , wrote:

Black powder-powered steel-and-composite perp-stopping tool.

Some years back, SWMBO talked me into going to a meeting of her garden club.
Members and guests were asked to give their names and their favorite gardening
tools. When it came around to me, I introduced myself and said that my
favorite gardening tool was a twelve-gauge pump action rabbit remover. :-)

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Maskman wrote:
Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all
the
time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection.
I have
a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a
pair of
Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as
well.
Thanks in advance.
Jerry

Maskman wrote:
Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all
the
time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection.
I have
a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a
pair of
Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as
well.
Thanks in advance.
Jerry

Jerry,
I bought a Peltor muff type hearing protector from Harbor Freight in
Little Rock for about half the cost for the same model in wood working
catelogs I've seen. Protection is 29-31 db. I forget the exact rating.
I paid about 15-16 dollars. Much better than other protectors I've had
and comfortable!
Dan

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 09:48:32 -0800, "Brett A. Thomas"
calmly ranted:

Larry Jaques wrote:
Black powder-powered steel-and-composite perp-stopping tool.

The first time my eldest son (four years old) saw a gun was in a framing
shop with me, where they were displaying their ability to put an object
in a deep frame. As a result, I was caught completely flat-footed when
he asked me what it was. "A machine for making holes over long
distances" is what I came up with, and he spent a little while thinking
a gun was kinda like a drill press for when you couldn't be bothered to
walk over to whatever you were drilling in.

Let's hope you have shown him what a gun was by now. You have taught
him to respect them and to stay away from them until he's old enough
to safety-train, I hope?


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Larry Jaques wrote:
Let's hope you have shown him what a gun was by now. You have taught
him to respect them and to stay away from them until he's old enough
to safety-train, I hope?

Well, "by now" is three months later. But, yes, he knows to respect
them, knows they're dangerous, etc. He's been taught the basic NRA
Eddie Eagle routine.

-BAT