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In article , igor wrote:
Doug is absolutely correct in his posts on this, IME. In fact consider that if someone wanted a "group" of outlets in one box from two circuits, 12/3 would be the safest way to do it (with all Doug's caveats about the breakers). (It may be required under the NEC to have all hot wires within a box controlled by the same breaker, or paired breakers, but I have unfortunately encountered boxes that are hot from separate breakers.) It is common in my non-pro experience to use 12/3 to run series of outlets along a counter, switching circuits back and forth along the way. For example, in a kitchen. -- Igor The NEC requires that all ungrounded conductors be capable of being disconnected simultaneously by a single disconnecting means. A single, two-pole breaker is by far the easiest way of achieving this, but it isn't the only method that complies with that requirement. E.g. two widely separated single-pole breakers, connected with a rigid handle tie, would satisfy. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com) Get a copy of my NEW AND IMPROVED TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter by sending email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com You must use your REAL email address to get a response. |
In article , igor wrote:
On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 18:56:12 +0000, (Robert Bonomi) wrote: You do -not- need to 'tag' the red wire as black, btw. anything _other_ _than_ one of the 'reserved' colors (white, green, bare) is presumed to be a 'hot' lead. I think that is correct. OTOH, sometimes one must tag a white wire as black (hot), such as in a 2-wire (plus ground) 240 circuit or in some 3-way switch configs. Right. Technically, it doesn't even have to be marked black; it could be marked any color _other_than_ white, gray, green, or green with a yellow stripe. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com) Get a copy of my NEW AND IMPROVED TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter by sending email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com You must use your REAL email address to get a response. |
Patriarch -
I agree, the issue isn't cost... It's time and effort... If I could run a single 12/3 and get two circuits, it would save another run... But after reading all of these posts, I've taken the 12/3 back and will play it safer and have two complete separate runs for 20a circuits using 12/2 and GFCI's with other outlets connected "downstream" Believe me... I haven't skimped on ANYTHING with this project - ask my wallet! John |
Hello there -
Well, a wealth of posts to the point of confusion as to who's saying what... anyway, I *am* a layman, and apparently don't have the nomenclature korrect, I want a total of 4 plug-thingies in a double box, thus two pair... the left on 1 circuit and the right on the 2nd circuit... But, for now, I have decided to just run 12/2 and say the hell with it... John Moorhead "Swingman" wrote in message ... "Mike Marlow" wrote in message Look at it again Swingman - he doesn't want to split an outlet, he wants two duplexes together in a double box that have their own hots, but share a neutral and a ground. Granted he is using layman's terminology, but are you sure that's what he meant? ... cuz it damn sure ain't what he said: I'll put a pair of outlets in each box, 1 on each circuit. A single is one outlet, a "pair", or duplex, is two outlets in the same box. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/06/04 |
"John Moorhead" wrote in message
Hello there - Well, a wealth of posts to the point of confusion as to who's saying what... anyway, I *am* a layman, and apparently don't have the nomenclature korrect, I want a total of 4 plug-thingies in a double box, thus two pair... the left on 1 circuit and the right on the 2nd circuit... But, for now, I have decided to just run 12/2 and say the hell with it... LOL ... I stand corrected. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/06/04 |
"John Moorhead" wrote in
. com: snip Believe me... I haven't skimped on ANYTHING with this project - ask my wallet! That's been pretty obvious from the pictures and the enthusiasm. I think I've spent almost as much on the electrical work as I did on the Unisaw. I don't worry that it wasn't done right, however. There are more than enough things that go bump in the night... Patriarch |
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