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Does anyone in the Group Like This Format?
Hi Group,
Yikes! What the *&%$# happened to our group format. Not quite as easy to browse through the messages is it? I suppose I;ll get used to it after a while. Personally, I liked the old one much better! What does everyone else think? Stuck in the Past, Michael |
On 1 Dec 2004 21:08:37 -0800, "MrMortise"
wrote: Hi Group, Yikes! What the *&%$# happened to our group format. Not quite as easy to browse through the messages is it? I suppose I;ll get used to it after a while. Personally, I liked the old one much better! What does everyone else think? Stuck in the Past, Michael Looks the same to me |
I get here through Google, and they've installed a new *beta* version
of Google Groups. Looks completely different, fewer threads on top, harder to navigate, and full of glitches--lost links, odd happenings (I attempted to drag a window larger only to have it disappear completely, returning me to where I started, only now 'where I started' looked different), etc. It is a *beta* version, but damn. . . . I don't like it. Dan |
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MrMortise wrote: Hi Group, Yikes! What the *&%$# happened to our group format. Not quite as easy to browse through the messages is it? I suppose I;ll get used to it after a while. Personally, I liked the old one much better! What does everyone else think? Stuck in the Past, Michael Ummmmm... "format"? This is Usenet. It doesn't have a format (other than line width), because it's plain text. Instead of being stuck in the past, methinks you've upgraded something. That something makes your newsreading experience different. Start there, and work forward. Kevin |
But my posting gets posted immediately!!! WOW!!!
Dan |
Steve wrote:
Looks the same to me Looks like Google just rolled out there new groups stuff for rec.woodworking. Looks interesting, tho not that relevant to those of us who don't use Google to read newgroups. :) -BAT |
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Brett A. Thomas wrote: wrote: But my posting gets posted immediately!!! WOW!!! Dan Yeah, not just Google posts, either - I'm posting through my NNTP host and it's showing right up on groups.google.com. For the rest of us, this means searching Usenet via Google will no longer be 8 hours in the past, which is cool... -BAT Whatever happened to "If it ain't broke don't fix it."? FoggyTown |
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"foggytown" wrote in message Whatever happened to "If it ain't broke don't fix it."? No ****! The number of posts change when you sort differently, and more than half of the posts by name that used to be there are missing. I don't use it much, but will now use it less. Progress ain't what it used to be. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/06/04 |
" Yikes! What the *&%$# happened to our group format. ????????????? Group Format? I come in through the newsgroup servers. It has always looked this bad to me. Kinda like it. |
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On 1 Dec 2004 22:20:33 -0800, wrote:
I get here through Google, and they've installed a new *beta* version of Google Groups. Looks completely different, fewer threads on top, harder to navigate, and full of glitches--lost links, odd happenings (I attempted to drag a window larger only to have it disappear completely, returning me to where I started, only now 'where I started' looked different), etc. It is a *beta* version, but damn. . . . I don't like it. Get Free Agent newsreader [www.forte.com]. You can sort by subject [simple then to delete crap by message header], enlarge a window at a click, or return back the same way ..... incoming email facility with Agent, but just outgoing in the free version, but who cares? |
On 1 Dec 2004 21:08:37 -0800, "MrMortise"
wrote: Hi Group, Yikes! What the *&%$# happened to our group format. Not quite as easy to browse through the messages is it? I suppose I;ll get used to it after a while. Personally, I liked the old one much better! What does everyone else think? The format is the same, just a larger percentage of glass along with the gems. |
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 21:08:37 -0800, MrMortise wrote:
Hi Group, Yikes! What the *&%$# happened to our group format. Not quite as easy to browse through the messages is it? I suppose I;ll get used to it after a while. Personally, I liked the old one much better! What does everyone else think? Ah, marketing above all else. Read all about it: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=528&e=2&u=/ap/20041202/ap_on_hi_te/google_groups -Doug |
On 1 Dec 2004 21:08:37 -0800, MrMortise wrote:
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1101964120 11970 127.0.0.1 (2 Dec 2004 05:08:40 GMT) Hi Group, Yikes! What the *&%$# happened to our group format. Not quite as easy to browse through the messages is it? Apparently, groups.google.com has changed it's web interface to Usenet groups. Depending on what kind of system you have, you've got lots of options to read Usenet that don't involve google's interface. What are you using for a computer? Dave Hinz |
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 00:26:28 -0600, Kevin Craig wrote:
Ummmmm... "format"? This is Usenet. It doesn't have a format (other than line width), because it's plain text. Instead of being stuck in the past, methinks you've upgraded something. That something makes your newsreading experience different. Start there, and work forward. Ummmm, yeah, those of us who looked at his headers already identified the problem and proposed some options for him. |
On 1 Dec 2004 21:08:37 -0800, "MrMortise"
wrote: Hi Group, Yikes! What the *&%$# happened to our group format. Not quite as easy to browse through the messages is it? I suppose I;ll get used to it after a while. Personally, I liked the old one much better! What does everyone else think? Stuck in the Past, Michael what format??? |
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 08:11:03 -0600, "RonB" wrote:
" Yikes! What the *&%$# happened to our group format. ????????????? Group Format? I come in through the newsgroup servers. It has always looked this bad to me. Kinda like it. me too... but I use Agent to access NG's through giganews, and some folks use their browser or outhouse express and come through free NG servers.. which in some cases is sorta like getting your news through Harbor Freight, you get what you pay for..YMMV |
On 1 Dec 2004 21:08:37 -0800, "MrMortise"
wrote: Hi Group, Yikes! What the *&%$# happened to our group format. Not quite as easy to browse through the messages is it? I suppose I;ll get used to it after a while. Personally, I liked the old one much better! What does everyone else think? Stuck in the Past, Michael ===================== I have been accused of being stuck in the past on a few occasions...BUT I sure as the devil have not noticed any change in the "format" ...whatever you mean by that ... of this newsgroup... I use Agent (free version naturally) as my news reader... The only thing that I have noticed is that I can update any of my normal 20 or so newsgroups that I follow in seconds BUT it usually takes 2 to 3 times longer to update rec. woodworking... message count does not seem to be the reason.. Bob Griffiths |
"J. Clarke" wrote in message ...
wrote: I get here through Google, Why? Doesn't the gte.net NNTP server carry rec.woodworking? Never thought to look; just always used Google since that's how I found the WrecK. Dan |
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says... Hi Group, Yikes! What the *&%$# happened to our group format. Not quite as easy to browse through the messages is it? I suppose I;ll get used to it after a while. Personally, I liked the old one much better! What does everyone else think? Stuck in the Past, Michael Old Format, new format? looks like the same old store to me. -- MikeG Heirloom Woods www.heirloom-woods.net |
Hi Group, Yikes! What the *&%$# happened to our group format. Not quite as easy to browse through the messages is it? I suppose I;ll get used to it after a while. Personally, I liked the old one much better! What does everyone else think? Stuck in the Past, Michael ===================== Hello Group, Man, I am losing it I guess! I didn't do anything different today. I logged on and now, theway I have been seeing this news group is exactly the same as it was,except for there is no "New Beta" logo at the top. I'm not sure how or why my entire screen changed but it did! It's back and just the way I like it! Now I will need to investigate to figure out "how it do that". Thanks for your patience. I promise I'll get my meds checked! Michael |
On 2 Dec 2004 11:46:15 -0800, (Dan Cullimore) wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in message ... wrote: I get here through Google, Why? Doesn't the gte.net NNTP server carry rec.woodworking? Never thought to look; just always used Google since that's how I found the WrecK. Try out a newsreader... you might like it better. I rarely even use the "web"- too many ads and other bs. And, you can access alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking then, along with all the other binary groups (something Google doesn't support) It's just as easy as setting up an e-mail account. Dan Aut inveniam viam aut faciam |
mrmortise wrote:
did! It's back and just the way I like it! Now I will need to investigate to figure out "how it do that". Thanks for your patience. I promise I'll get my meds checked! Whatever it is you saw, or think you saw, it had nothing to do with the newsgroup itself. It sounds like you're using some kind of proprietary browser/reader thing through some service like AOL or something, and they changed the look and feel of it somehow. This newsgroup is a part of Usenet or USENet or USENET or whatever capitals it's supposed to have. It's ancient technology dating back before the dawn of graphical user interfaces and other such froofery. I used to read usenet with a program called "rn" that made me read through every single article in a newgroup in series. It didn't do threading, it didn't let you preview the subject headers, or anything like that. Usenet hasn't changed since those days. Only the face of the programs (or web interfaces, even) we use to access it. Plus all the irritating people posting HTML crap and top posting because they don't know any better, and all the spammers. I guess it's not the same as it always was, but the underlying technology still is. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
Dear Group,
Aha! it's simply the new group button. Try it and you'll see the difference. It all boils down to a personal preference. The new one doesn't show as many threads and, therefore, is limiting to me. I'll stick to the old thank you! Michael |
"mrmortise" wrote in message
Dear Group, Aha! it's simply the new group button. Try it and you'll see the difference. It all boils down to a personal preference. The new one doesn't show as many threads and, therefore, is limiting to me. I'll stick to the old For a while yesterday the search results for the newsgroups was the new beta format. They have now changed back to the original search results screen (well, not exactly - for those who were familiar with the original dejanews). I did, and it appears a number of others did likewise, take the time to respond by e-mail to what looked to me like regression instead of progress.That may well be why the old Google search results format is back, at least for a while. It is interesting that the total number of results returned on any given name was cut in half under the beta ... which may be academic because IIRC you can't get more than a 1000 results to display no matter the hits returned. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/06/04 |
I think I'm missing a few posts as I look at this. I'm pretty sure
there've been posts since Dec 1 and I'm not seeing them, so this may have already been mentioned. But here I go anyway. Anybody click on "About this group" and then check out the "All time top posters" list? Congratulations, JOAT! All time top posters 13154 8772 8106 8018 5147 4657 4180 4019 3731 3579 |
I read a book titled "If it ain't broke... BREAK IT!" Sometimes that's the
only way something "acceptable" gets to be "exceptional". Richard "foggytown" wrote in message oups.com... Brett A. Thomas wrote: wrote: But my posting gets posted immediately!!! WOW!!! Dan Yeah, not just Google posts, either - I'm posting through my NNTP host and it's showing right up on groups.google.com. For the rest of us, this means searching Usenet via Google will no longer be 8 hours in the past, which is cool... -BAT Whatever happened to "If it ain't broke don't fix it."? FoggyTown |
"Richard" wrote in message
I read a book titled "If it ain't broke... BREAK IT!" Sometimes that's the only way something "acceptable" gets to be "exceptional". Yabut, not in this case. There is apparently no such thing that even approaches "acceptable" from the current crop of ADD web "designers" at places like Goggle ... where commercial opportunity takes precedence over content, and ''whiz, bang and glitter' takes precedence over the logical presentation of information. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/06/04 |
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 06:39:25 -0600, Swingman wrote:
"Richard" wrote in message I read a book titled "If it ain't broke... BREAK IT!" Sometimes that's the only way something "acceptable" gets to be "exceptional". Yabut, not in this case. There is apparently no such thing that even approaches "acceptable" from the current crop of ADD web "designers" at places like Goggle ... where commercial opportunity takes precedence over content, and ''whiz, bang and glitter' takes precedence over the logical presentation of information. Well then, maybe they should ask for their money back for what Google is charging them... |
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Swingman wrote: "Richard" wrote in message I read a book titled "If it ain't broke... BREAK IT!" Sometimes that's the only way something "acceptable" gets to be "exceptional". Yabut, not in this case. There is apparently no such thing that even approaches "acceptable" from the current crop of ADD web "designers" at places like Goggle ... where commercial opportunity takes precedence over content, and ''whiz, bang and glitter' takes precedence over the logical presentation of information. Think about 'who pays for the work', and then explain _why_ you are surprised at the priorities. grin |
"Robert Bonomi" wrote in message
Think about 'who pays for the work', and then explain _why_ you are surprised at the priorities. grin No surprise at all ... twas merely an ongoing observation, based on perspective and participation (some willing, some reluctant, some forced), in a culture where the idea that pictures, once worth "a thousand words" will somehow be worth more and crowbar your wallet out of your pocket faster when flashing, when changing every 2 seconds, and when accompanied by sound effects not found in nature. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/06/04 |
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