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Richard Clements November 23rd 04 10:26 PM

butcher block oil or mineral oil
 
I've never made a food idem before, so I've never really looked into this, I
have always been told that you use mineral oil on cutting boards, I was
recently told that butcher block/spoon oil lasts longer, and someone today
told me that there the same thing, if there not is there is diff in
preformace? anyone know the answer?

JGS November 24th 04 10:38 AM

Hi Richard,
I am still using mineral oil. It is so easy to reapply. I have used a butcher
block product (actually a wax) which looked good but took a while to apply and
spread evenly. As to longevity, I did not notice a difference. JG

Richard Clements wrote:

I've never made a food idem before, so I've never really looked into this, I
have always been told that you use mineral oil on cutting boards, I was
recently told that butcher block/spoon oil lasts longer, and someone today
told me that there the same thing, if there not is there is diff in
preformace? anyone know the answer?



George November 24th 04 01:01 PM

Could be. But you don't use either if you want best results. Mineral oil
doesn't cure, so it sequesters oil-soluble inorganic soil and oil-loving
organic creatures (like bacteria) from the depredations of detergents.
Until, of course, the detergent finally emulsifies all the oil, at which
point the piece "looks dull" and needs to be reoiled....

Go bare or go cure.

"Richard Clements" wrote in message
...
I've never made a food idem before, so I've never really looked into this,

I
have always been told that you use mineral oil on cutting boards, I was
recently told that butcher block/spoon oil lasts longer, and someone today
told me that there the same thing, if there not is there is diff in
preformace? anyone know the answer?




Dan White November 24th 04 09:23 PM

"George" george@least wrote in message
...
Could be. But you don't use either if you want best results. Mineral oil
doesn't cure, so it sequesters oil-soluble inorganic soil and oil-loving
organic creatures (like bacteria) from the depredations of detergents.
Until, of course, the detergent finally emulsifies all the oil, at which
point the piece "looks dull" and needs to be reoiled....

Go bare or go cure.


George - I have a vested interest in this topic as about 18 sf of my counter
space is being left au natural for a mineral oil treatment rather than poly.
This 18 sf area is for food prep. Everyone else just about everywhere has
said that some kind of oil is the best treatment for such a use. I have a
feeling that either way (bare or mineral oil) has pluses and minuses. Is it
possible that the wood is protected from moisture and possible delamination
better with mineral oil than with nothing? Maybe this is enough reason to
go with the oil if so.

dwhite



"Richard Clements" wrote in message
...
I've never made a food idem before, so I've never really looked into

this,
I
have always been told that you use mineral oil on cutting boards, I was
recently told that butcher block/spoon oil lasts longer, and someone

today
told me that there the same thing, if there not is there is diff in
preformace? anyone know the answer?






George November 24th 04 10:36 PM

You've got a bad choice to make. It's not good policy at all to use the
same board or area for meat prep and then for food which will not be cooked.
Cross-contamination is a certainty.

I would have boards for trimming and cutting meat made up to place on areas
of the counter where I can wipe with bleach or detergent and feel certain
they were not hiding just out of reach. Use the open area to prepare foods
which will not be cooked. I would go a drying (curing) oil to help shed
moisture, though it will darken the counter a bit. Check walnut oil as a
possibility, or one of the oil/wax mixes. Keep some bleach, cut 10:1 in a
spray bottle nearby for wiping.

I would also make sure I could replace the entire area relatively easily in
case someone left a glass too cold or a pot too hot on it to discolor it.

"Dan White" wrote in message
...
"George" george@least wrote in message
...
Could be. But you don't use either if you want best results. Mineral

oil
doesn't cure, so it sequesters oil-soluble inorganic soil and oil-loving
organic creatures (like bacteria) from the depredations of detergents.
Until, of course, the detergent finally emulsifies all the oil, at which
point the piece "looks dull" and needs to be reoiled....

Go bare or go cure.


George - I have a vested interest in this topic as about 18 sf of my

counter
space is being left au natural for a mineral oil treatment rather than

poly.
This 18 sf area is for food prep. Everyone else just about everywhere has
said that some kind of oil is the best treatment for such a use. I have a
feeling that either way (bare or mineral oil) has pluses and minuses. Is

it
possible that the wood is protected from moisture and possible

delamination
better with mineral oil than with nothing? Maybe this is enough reason to
go with the oil if so.

dwhite



"Richard Clements" wrote in message
...
I've never made a food idem before, so I've never really looked into

this,
I
have always been told that you use mineral oil on cutting boards, I

was
recently told that butcher block/spoon oil lasts longer, and someone

today
told me that there the same thing, if there not is there is diff in
preformace? anyone know the answer?








Dan White November 25th 04 03:59 AM

"George" george@least wrote in message
...
You've got a bad choice to make. It's not good policy at all to use the
same board or area for meat prep and then for food which will not be

cooked.
Cross-contamination is a certainty.


Well, I didn't get into details but strictly speaking this isn't a prep
table. There won't be any uncooked meat near this counter... all that is in
the back kitchen area. The use here is mainly for sandwich prep. The only
thing that will typically contact the board is rolls and subs, probably some
produce here and there. I'm probably going to poly the counter under the
slicer as there won't be any knife work there and the poly will repel any
juices you get typically from roast beef in the slicer. On the unfinished
part, I will have sandwiches cut and frill picked before they go onto a
catering tray, so that is where some knife marks can come into play. It is
hard rock maple so I'm told it will hold up.

I would go a drying (curing) oil to help shed
moisture, though it will darken the counter a bit. Check walnut oil as a
possibility, or one of the oil/wax mixes. Keep some bleach, cut 10:1 in a
spray bottle nearby for wiping.


I probably need some darkening as it would be nice for the unfinished part
to somewhat match the parts with poly, which turn a bit yellow. I'll have
to check into the drying oils and see.

I would also make sure I could replace the entire area relatively easily

in
case someone left a glass too cold or a pot too hot on it to discolor it.


That's not going to happen with this countertop. The main counter is 3'
wide and 13' long. It ain't goin' nowhere! The worn in rustic look is
going to have to do in the unfinished section.

thanks again,
dwhite


"Dan White" wrote in message
...
"George" george@least wrote in message
...
Could be. But you don't use either if you want best results. Mineral

oil
doesn't cure, so it sequesters oil-soluble inorganic soil and

oil-loving
organic creatures (like bacteria) from the depredations of detergents.
Until, of course, the detergent finally emulsifies all the oil, at

which
point the piece "looks dull" and needs to be reoiled....

Go bare or go cure.


George - I have a vested interest in this topic as about 18 sf of my

counter
space is being left au natural for a mineral oil treatment rather than

poly.
This 18 sf area is for food prep. Everyone else just about everywhere

has
said that some kind of oil is the best treatment for such a use. I have

a
feeling that either way (bare or mineral oil) has pluses and minuses.

Is
it
possible that the wood is protected from moisture and possible

delamination
better with mineral oil than with nothing? Maybe this is enough reason

to
go with the oil if so.

dwhite



"Richard Clements" wrote in message
...
I've never made a food idem before, so I've never really looked into

this,
I
have always been told that you use mineral oil on cutting boards, I

was
recently told that butcher block/spoon oil lasts longer, and someone

today
told me that there the same thing, if there not is there is diff in
preformace? anyone know the answer?










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