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Need advice from woodworking guys
Hi Guys - My husband loves woodworking and I love him, but the sawdust,
woodchips, and whatever else that is continuously tracked into the rest of the house from the basement is making me crazy. It's not like he doesn't try to clean up after himself, but there is a lot of small sawdust that does not get vacuumed up. I thought I'd ask the guys who would know, what do you do to keep the dust down? - Janice |
wear overalls/aprons/sweatshirts/etc. and take them off in the shop at the
door. I also have shoes that I use only in the shop, and take them off before going in the house (I have a detached garage as my shop). I also use the shopvac on myself if I'm particularly dirty. One of the biggest improvements was to get a good dust collector and make sure I use it diligently. It helps a lot, but isn't perfect. A little dust will always make it into the house, so I throw my clothes in the hamper and take a shower right away. That's about all you can do, I think. The thing I've tried to get my wife to realize is that a little dust and/or wood chips is not the end of the world and to try to chill out and not make such a big deal over it. Hasn't worked yet hehe Mike "Janice Brown" wrote in message .. . Hi Guys - My husband loves woodworking and I love him, but the sawdust, woodchips, and whatever else that is continuously tracked into the rest of the house from the basement is making me crazy. It's not like he doesn't try to clean up after himself, but there is a lot of small sawdust that does not get vacuumed up. I thought I'd ask the guys who would know, what do you do to keep the dust down? - Janice |
Janice,
A nice 30' x 50' heated and airconditioned shop out back would take care of most of the problem. If that isn't an option a good dust colletor and air cleaner will go a long way but I don't think there is anything that is going to be 100 percent. If he has a compressor he might use it to dust himself off but be sure it is set at a very low pressure. I also found that wiping my feet on one of those door mats that have the prickly plastic things took care of the odd chips on my shoes. Good luck. Stuart Johnson Red Oak, Texas In article , Janice Brown wrote: Hi Guys - My husband loves woodworking and I love him, but the sawdust, woodchips, and whatever else that is continuously tracked into the rest of the house from the basement is making me crazy. It's not like he doesn't try to clean up after himself, but there is a lot of small sawdust that does not get vacuumed up. I thought I'd ask the guys who would know, what do you do to keep the dust down? - Janice |
what do you do to keep the dust down? - Janice
Dust Collector Janice as I'm sure many others will tell you. Not real expensive, and would make great Christmas present :) Mike in Arkansas who is not lucky enough to have a basement. |
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Janice Brown wrote: Hi Guys - My husband loves woodworking and I love him, but the sawdust, woodchips, and whatever else that is continuously tracked into the rest of the house from the basement is making me crazy. It's not like he doesn't try to clean up after himself, but there is a lot of small sawdust that does not get vacuumed up. I thought I'd ask the guys who would know, what do you do to keep the dust down? - Janice Two "equipment" solutions - a dust/chip collector - attaches to various tools (or all of them at once with a fixed duct system if the tools stay put) which keeps a lot of the dust and chips from ever getting out to bother things. An air cleaner - which is basically a fan with a fine dust filter that recirculates shop air to catch floating dust. A dust collector with good fiters can do the job of both. A shop-vac is neither. Well, OK, the third, really big, "equipment" solution is the detached shop outside the house. This may not be a fiscal reality, but it is a great solution. Many "behavior" solutions - coveralls, aprons, hats, shoes that stay put in the shop. All of which tend to be a pain if there is a lot of running in and out of the shop. Foot-scrapers, doormats and foot brushes (generally sold for outside doors, but...). A mirror just outside the shop door. A good tight door on the shop. -- Cats, Coffee, Chocolate...vices to live by |
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:33:34 GMT, Janice Brown
wrote: Hi Guys - My husband loves woodworking and I love him, but the sawdust, woodchips, and whatever else that is continuously tracked into the rest of the house from the basement is making me crazy. It's not like he doesn't try to clean up after himself, but there is a lot of small sawdust that does not get vacuumed up. I thought I'd ask the guys who would know, what do you do to keep the dust down? - Janice Beer does a good job washing it down ;-) Seriously, a shop apron keeps a LOT of the dust out of his clothes (leather apron is easy to keep dust free). Blowing the dust off with an air gun helps a lot. A mat at the top of the stairs that has bristles so the dust on his shoes will fall into the bristles. A dust filtration system is helpful but I think the bulk of your concern is dust he carries on him rather than a cloud of dust following him up the stairs. A dust collection system on all of his power tools will significantly reduce the amount of dust that can be tracked or get imbedded in his clothes - these tend to be noisy so you need to make a tradeoff on which you prefer... TWS |
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:33:34 GMT, Janice Brown
wrote: I thought I'd ask the guys who would know, what do you do to keep the dust down? I can't, so I keep it out. Workshop wear is smooth fabric trousers (cheap mil-surplus combats) and similar shirts. I'm usually wearing a sweater, and that comes off and gets left in the workshop. For woodturning, I wear a French Cheesemaker's Smock in a smooth surfaced linen. http://www.folkwear.com/102.html This square pattern with armpit gussets is ridiculously easy to sew up, and one of the most comfortable shirts for heavy "long reach" work that I've had without spending over a day in sewing and fitting it. Mum has a tiled kitchen and porch-like utility room. Dad doesn't get let back into the carpeted part of the house until she's hoovered him 8-) I also try to control dust in the workshop. There's a bench brush hanging behind the bench and it gets used every couple of minutes. The cabinet saw keeps most of its dust inside it, but the other machines have dust extraction. The main culprit for dust is a router, and I don't use that much, preferring hand planes. -- Smert' spamionam |
"Janice Brown" wrote in message .. . of the house from the basement is making me crazy. It's not like he doesn't try to clean up after himself, but there is a lot of small sawdust that does not get vacuumed up. I thought I'd ask the guys who If its just stuffed getting tracked into the house - then I have a dedicated coverall and pair of shoes that stay in the shop. That pretty much takes care of 95% of keeping the house sawdust free. On those days when I know my hair caught some dust - I either take a ShopVac hose to my 'mop' or give it a blast with compressed air. Industrial / research places also make some adhesive paper, about the size of a floor mat, that you step on when leaving. Think of it as walk-able flypaper for sawdust. I have no idea where you'd find this stuff. The dedicated shoes and coveralls work for me. |
Janice
What I do is strip when done, put on some clean duds and even change shoes before going into the house after a session in the shop. Keeps a very significant amount of the dust/crud from coming into the house on the clothes/shoes. Keeps my wife happy Of course, the fact that the laundry room is off the shop helps a ton, store the change of clothes there, and can shake out the dusty stuff and run it thru the washer at the end of a shop session May NOT be the solution for everyone, but it SURE works here John On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:33:34 GMT, Janice Brown wrote: Hi Guys - My husband loves woodworking and I love him, but the sawdust, woodchips, and whatever else that is continuously tracked into the rest of the house from the basement is making me crazy. It's not like he doesn't try to clean up after himself, but there is a lot of small sawdust that does not get vacuumed up. I thought I'd ask the guys who would know, what do you do to keep the dust down? - Janice |
Andy Dingley wrote:
Mum has a tiled kitchen and porch-like utility room. Dad doesn't get let back into the carpeted part of the house until she's hoovered him 8-) Given the ribbald and unmoderated tenor of rec.woodworking, my reading of this comment shows that your smiley is well deserved! Ken Muldrew (remove all letters after y in the alphabet) |
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:40:07 +0000, Andy Dingley
wrote: Mum has a tiled kitchen and porch-like utility room. Dad doesn't get let back into the carpeted part of the house until she's hoovered him 8-) Nothing like a good hoovering every now and again... I also try to control dust in the workshop. Gee Andy, I thought you mostly made chips and curls not dust... TWS |
"patrick conroy" wrote in message ... "Janice Brown" wrote in message .. . of the house from the basement is making me crazy. It's not like he doesn't try to clean up after himself, but there is a lot of small sawdust that does not get vacuumed up. I thought I'd ask the guys who If its just stuffed getting tracked into the house - then I have a dedicated coverall and pair of shoes that stay in the shop. That pretty much takes care of 95% of keeping the house sawdust free. On those days when I know my hair caught some dust - I either take a ShopVac hose to my 'mop' or give it a blast with compressed air. Industrial / research places also make some adhesive paper, about the size of a floor mat, that you step on when leaving. Think of it as walk-able flypaper for sawdust. I have no idea where you'd find this stuff. The dedicated shoes and coveralls work for me. this is for sale as a mat for in front of the cat litter box in the pet store. |
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:39:27 GMT, TWS wrote:
I also try to control dust in the workshop. Gee Andy, I thought you mostly made chips and curls not dust... 'been routing plywood last few days. Took me a good while to find where I'd put the router table ! Last week I made a frame for a stained glass window (internal dorway - indoors both sides). Like a total muppet I ended up hand planing twenty four foot of complicated moulding. Good fun, but it's no way to make a living. I was also using shop-bought timber (the shame!) which was brand-new pineywood. Obviously kiln-dried, the knots in it were hard enough to chip my favourite carving gouge. Fortunately I did this while I was cutting them back to save the irons in the moulders, or I'd be _really_ annoyed. |
Put the shop as far away from the house as possible..........that way the
dust shakes off on the way to the house! Barry "Janice Brown" wrote in message .. . Hi Guys - My husband loves woodworking and I love him, but the sawdust, woodchips, and whatever else that is continuously tracked into the rest of the house from the basement is making me crazy. It's not like he doesn't try to clean up after himself, but there is a lot of small sawdust that does not get vacuumed up. I thought I'd ask the guys who would know, what do you do to keep the dust down? - Janice |
TWS wrote:
[sinp] Blowing the dust off with an air gun helps a lot. [snip] All the things mentioned here do help but this is a good tidy up - he can even step outside to do this. Josie |
Janice Brown wrote:
Hi Guys - My husband loves woodworking and I love him, but the sawdust, woodchips, and whatever else that is continuously tracked into the rest of the house from the basement is making me crazy. It's not like he doesn't try to clean up after himself, but there is a lot of small sawdust that does not get vacuumed up. I thought I'd ask the guys who would know, what do you do to keep the dust down? - Janice Um, none of us has been in a real house for over three years. Just one of the sacrifices we make to do woodturning... ....Kevin -- Kevin Miller http://www.alaska.net/~atftb Juneau, Alaska |
Hi you All
Yes using air to blow off works BUT we had a guy get KILLED that way, apparently a sliver of steel got into the blow gun and then when triggered cut a small cut in the guys neck and artery, air got into the artery and killed him on the spot. This was not a wood shop and we used high pressure, still O.K. that never happens right, well it did, so take care. have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo firstjois wrote: TWS wrote: [sinp] Blowing the dust off with an air gun helps a lot. [snip] All the things mentioned here do help but this is a good tidy up - he can even step outside to do this. Josie |
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:27:56 -0700, "Charles Spitzer"
wrote: "patrick conroy" wrote in message ... "Janice Brown" wrote in message .. . of the house from the basement is making me crazy. It's not like he doesn't try to clean up after himself, but there is a lot of small sawdust that does not get vacuumed up. I thought I'd ask the guys who If its just stuffed getting tracked into the house - then I have a dedicated coverall and pair of shoes that stay in the shop. That pretty much takes care of 95% of keeping the house sawdust free. On those days when I know my hair caught some dust - I either take a ShopVac hose to my 'mop' or give it a blast with compressed air. Industrial / research places also make some adhesive paper, about the size of a floor mat, that you step on when leaving. Think of it as walk-able flypaper for sawdust. I have no idea where you'd find this stuff. The dedicated shoes and coveralls work for me. this is for sale as a mat for in front of the cat litter box in the pet store. Not sure if the stuff at the petstore is the same as the stuff in industrial cleanrooms, but I do know that when I've gone into cleanroom environments where that tacky mat is at the entrance, they request that the treads on your shoes be 1/8" deep or less. So, if you husband is wearing deep lugged boots into his shop, a new pair of shoes might make as much of a difference as anything. At the very least, it would make a mat more effective in removing the chips and dust. Of course, if you're looking for a solution he'd like even better, get him an air compressor, and he can use that to blow the dust off. Works pretty good, even for metal swarf. Aut inveniam viam aut faciam |
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:33:34 GMT, Janice Brown
wrote: Hi Guys - My husband loves woodworking and I love him, but the sawdust, woodchips, and whatever else that is continuously tracked into the rest of the house from the basement is making me crazy. It's not like he doesn't try to clean up after himself, but there is a lot of small sawdust that does not get vacuumed up. I thought I'd ask the guys who would know, what do you do to keep the dust down? - Janice I stomp my feet and brush off my clothes. Using the DC helps a lot. I have two rubber mats that I use before entering the house. Some sawdust still gets in the house, though. I seem to have problems with sawdust in pockets. |
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:13:27 GMT, TWS vaguely
proposed a theory .......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email Blowing the dust off with an air gun helps a lot. This was one of the first things I was taught NOT to do with compressed air. Jeeezus! IIRC we had a guy here saying he blows the dust off the inside of his glasses (implication was that he was wearing them! Maybe I misunderstood.) I thought he was joking. |
We are terrible housekeepers, and I am in and out of the shop continually throughout the day. I vacuum myself if I've been sanding, or turning. Run an air filter when I need to. Sweep once a week whether I need to or not. But the best thing is an astroturf mat between the shop area and the rest of the garage. Now if I could just get my 9 y.o. to stop walking out there in his stocking feet. -Dan V. On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:33:34 GMT, Janice Brown wrote: Hi Guys - My husband loves woodworking and I love him, but the sawdust, woodchips, and whatever else that is continuously tracked into the rest of the house from the basement is making me crazy. It's not like he doesn't try to clean up after himself, but there is a lot of small sawdust that does not get vacuumed up. I thought I'd ask the guys who would know, what do you do to keep the dust down? - Janice |
"Leo Van Der Loo" wrote in message ... Yes using air to blow off works BUT we had a guy get KILLED that way, apparently a sliver of steel got into the blow gun and then when triggered cut a small cut in the guys neck and artery, air got into the artery and killed him on the spot. That's a good warning! I don't ever point the gun at my head or neck. Bob |
"Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... For woodturning, I wear a French Cheesemaker's Smock in a smooth surfaced linen. I have to smile when I read about all these people who use aprons, smocks, and other such garb while woodworking. I live in a rather warm part of the world. We practically work naked for a better part of the year. Oh yeah and its wet sometimes. In the last 24 hours, some surrounding areas are reporting 20 inches of rain. Dry wood is a relative term around here. Glub, Glub Gurgle. Bob Davis Houston, Texas |
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:00:07 GMT, "Bob"
wrote: We practically work naked for a better part of the year. Please don't post binaries to rec.woodworking. |
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:24:14 +0000, Andy Dingley
wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:00:07 GMT, "Bob" wrote: We practically work naked for a better part of the year. Please don't post binaries to rec.woodworking. or anywhere else for that matter... TWS |
Bob wrote:
"Leo Van Der Loo" wrote in message ... Yes using air to blow off works BUT we had a guy get KILLED that way, apparently a sliver of steel got into the blow gun and then when triggered cut a small cut in the guys neck and artery, air got into the artery and killed him on the spot. That's a good warning! I don't ever point the gun at my head or neck. Bob |
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:39:50 -0500, Leo Van Der Loo
wrote: Hi you All Yes using air to blow off works BUT we had a guy get KILLED that way, apparently a sliver of steel got into the blow gun and then when triggered cut a small cut in the guys neck and artery, air got into the artery and killed him on the spot. This was not a wood shop and we used high pressure, still O.K. that never happens right, well it did, so take care. have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo Geez, thanks for the info. I will be sure to discharge the sprayer toward the floor before I use it on ANYTHING any more. Shuddering... TWS |
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TWS wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:39:50 -0500, Leo Van Der Loo wrote: Hi you All Yes using air to blow off works BUT we had a guy get KILLED that way, apparently a sliver of steel got into the blow gun and then when triggered cut a small cut in the guys neck and artery, air got into the artery and killed him on the spot. This was not a wood shop and we used high pressure, still O.K. that never happens right, well it did, so take care. have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo Geez, thanks for the info. I will be sure to discharge the sprayer toward the floor before I use it on ANYTHING any more. Shuddering... TWS Regardless, don't use the damn things on people. Tain't worth it. You don't even need a sliver if you have an old (or user-modified new) blowgun without the side holes - the air itself can open a hole. Use a brush. -- Cats, Coffee, Chocolate...vices to live by |
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:33:34 GMT, Janice Brown
wrote: Hi Guys - My husband loves woodworking and I love him, but the sawdust, woodchips, and whatever else that is continuously tracked into the rest of the house from the basement is making me crazy. It's not like he doesn't try to clean up after himself, but there is a lot of small sawdust that does not get vacuumed up. I thought I'd ask the guys who would know, what do you do to keep the dust down? - Janice Shower and changing room between basement and house? lol 2 things come to mind, since it's a basement shop.. the obvious is for hubby to vacuum himself off before he leaves the shop, (sounds weird, but a lot of us do this), and take off his shoes before he comes in the house.. the other thing is something like doormats that trap dirt and sawdust on the stairs from shop to house.. |
TWS wrote:
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:24:Sexes000, Andy Dingley wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:00:07 GMT, "Bob" wrote: We practically work naked for a better part of the year. Please don't post binaries to rec.woodworking. or anywhere else for that matter... Mental note never visit wood workers in Texas, I really don't need any more nightmares! G I were my apron as protection as much as to keep clean |
Richard Clements wrote in
: TWS wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:24:Sexes000, Andy Dingley wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:00:07 GMT, "Bob" wrote: We practically work naked for a better part of the year. Please don't post binaries to rec.woodworking. or anywhere else for that matter... Mental note never visit wood workers in Texas, I really don't need any more nightmares! G I were my apron as protection as much as to keep clean This sounds like my wife. Cindy, is this you? LOL A lot of what gets tracked around was actually on my shoes, so I always wipe them real good before leaving my shop. We also got a roomba robotic vacuum which is good at picking up the fine sawdust that seems to seep into the house. Good luck and have a dust-free Thanksgiving. |
See if you can find a big piece of "Astroturf" to put in front of the
stairs. Lots of Dept. stores use it in the foyer to keep the street crud from being tracked into the stores. - - - I've seen it sold as door mats too. RJ "Janice Brown" wrote in message .. . Hi Guys - My husband loves woodworking and I love him, but the sawdust, woodchips, and whatever else that is continuously tracked into the rest of the house from the basement is making me crazy. It's not like he doesn't try to clean up after himself, but there is a lot of small sawdust that does not get vacuumed up. I thought I'd ask the guys who would know, what do you do to keep the dust down? - Janice |
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:01:14 GMT, "rj" spake the
words: See if you can find a big piece of "Astroturf" to put in front of the stairs. Lots of Dept. stores use it in the foyer to keep the street crud from being tracked into the stores. - - - I've seen it sold as door mats too. RJ "Janice Brown" wrote in message . .. Hi Guys - My husband loves woodworking and I love him, but the sawdust, woodchips, and whatever else that is continuously tracked into the rest of the house from the basement is making me crazy. It's not like he doesn't try to clean up after himself, but there is a lot of small sawdust that does not get vacuumed up. I thought I'd ask the guys who would know, what do you do to keep the dust down? - Janice What, y'all don't have downdraft floor mats installed at the entrance to the little home attached to your shop? ------------------------------------------------------------- give me The Luxuries Of Life * http://www.diversify.com i can live without the necessities * 2 Tee collections online ------------------------------------------------------------- |
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