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It wasn't too long ago I bought 1/2" CDX for ~$15 a sheet. I have a nice stock pile of 1/2".... some 5/8" CDX and 5/8" T1-11, also.

Went to get more 1/2" sheets, today, for boarding up my brother's windows, in the Lake Charles area. Price at Doug Ashy is $32 a sheet, Home Depot is $30 a sheet, Lowes is $29 a sheet.

Our only consolation is doing some hoodoo, maybe send Laura Leon's way, since he and folks that way seem to have an affinity for storms and high water.

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It wasn't too long ago I bought 1/2" CDX for ~$15 a sheet. I have a nice
stock pile of 1/2".... some 5/8" CDX and 5/8" T1-11, also.


Went to get more 1/2" sheets, today, for boarding up my brother's windows,
in the Lake Charles area. Price at Doug Ashy is $32 a sheet, Home Depot is
$30 a sheet, Lowes is $29 a sheet.


So glad the bulk of my home renovation is done! It would be tough to start
the task now... Frustrating delays for one thing. Cost for another.

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Sonny wrote:
It wasn't too long ago I bought 1/2" CDX for ~$15 a sheet. I have a nice stock pile of 1/2".... some 5/8" CDX and 5/8" T1-11, also.

Went to get more 1/2" sheets, today, for boarding up my brother's windows, in the Lake Charles area. Price at Doug Ashy is $32 a sheet, Home Depot is $30 a sheet, Lowes is $29 a sheet.

Our only consolation is doing some hoodoo, maybe send Laura Leon's way, since he and folks that way seem to have an affinity for storms and high water.

Sonny


If you are interested in more details regarding the change in prices,
the following video lays out a pretty detailed analysis (in short, the
lumber companies thought demand was going to go down and produced less,
and demand went up instead):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEdUBITzGCA

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On 8/26/2020 12:24 AM, Bill wrote:
Sonny wrote:
It wasn't too long ago I bought 1/2" CDX for ~$15 a sheet.Â* I have a
nice stock pile of 1/2".... some 5/8" CDX and 5/8" T1-11, also.

Went to get more 1/2" sheets, today, for boarding up my brother's
windows, in the Lake Charles area.Â* Price at Doug Ashy is $32 a sheet,
Home Depot is $30 a sheet, Lowes is $29 a sheet.

Our only consolation is doing some hoodoo, maybe send Laura Leon's
way, since he and folks that way seem to have an affinity for storms
and high water.

Sonny


If you are interested in more details regarding the change in prices,
the following video lays out a pretty detailed analysis (in short, the
lumber companies thought demand was going to go down and produced less,
and demand went up instead):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEdUBITzGCA

Bill


As did the greed.
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On 8/26/2020 12:24 AM, Bill wrote:
Sonny wrote:
It wasn't too long ago I bought 1/2" CDX for ~$15 a sheet.Â* I have a
nice stock pile of 1/2".... some 5/8" CDX and 5/8" T1-11, also.

Went to get more 1/2" sheets, today, for boarding up my brother's
windows, in the Lake Charles area.Â* Price at Doug Ashy is $32 a
sheet, Home Depot is $30 a sheet, Lowes is $29 a sheet.

Our only consolation is doing some hoodoo, maybe send Laura Leon's
way, since he and folks that way seem to have an affinity for storms
and high water.

Sonny


If you are interested in more details regarding the change in prices,
the following video lays out a pretty detailed analysis (in short, the
lumber companies thought demand was going to go down and produced
less, and demand went up instead):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEdUBITzGCA

Bill


As did the greed.


That too. : )



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On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 9:16:03 AM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
Hawk wrote:
On 8/26/2020 12:24 AM, Bill wrote:
Sonny wrote:
It wasn't too long ago I bought 1/2" CDX for ~$15 a sheet.Â* I have a
nice stock pile of 1/2".... some 5/8" CDX and 5/8" T1-11, also.

Went to get more 1/2" sheets, today, for boarding up my brother's
windows, in the Lake Charles area.Â* Price at Doug Ashy is $32 a
sheet, Home Depot is $30 a sheet, Lowes is $29 a sheet.

Our only consolation is doing some hoodoo, maybe send Laura Leon's
way, since he and folks that way seem to have an affinity for storms
and high water.

Sonny


If you are interested in more details regarding the change in prices,
the following video lays out a pretty detailed analysis (in short, the
lumber companies thought demand was going to go down and produced
less, and demand went up instead):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEdUBITzGCA

Bill


As did the greed.


That too. : )


Along with a proportionally inverse move in the quality.
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Bill writes:
Sonny wrote:
It wasn't too long ago I bought 1/2" CDX for ~$15 a sheet. I have a nice stock pile of 1/2".... some 5/8" CDX and 5/8" T1-11, also.

Went to get more 1/2" sheets, today, for boarding up my brother's windows, in the Lake Charles area. Price at Doug Ashy is $32 a sheet, Home Depot is $30 a sheet, Lowes is $29 a sheet.

Our only consolation is doing some hoodoo, maybe send Laura Leon's way, since he and folks that way seem to have an affinity for storms and high water.

Sonny


If you are interested in more details regarding the change in prices,
the following video lays out a pretty detailed analysis (in short, the
lumber companies thought demand was going to go down and produced less,
and demand went up instead):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEdUBITzGCA


Of course recent 24% duties on Canadian softwood has also caused higher
prices.
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On 8/25/2020 6:23 PM, Sonny wrote:
It wasn't too long ago I bought 1/2" CDX for ~$15 a sheet. I have a nice stock pile of 1/2".... some 5/8" CDX and 5/8" T1-11, also.

Went to get more 1/2" sheets, today, for boarding up my brother's windows, in the Lake Charles area. Price at Doug Ashy is $32 a sheet, Home Depot is $30 a sheet, Lowes is $29 a sheet.

Our only consolation is doing some hoodoo, maybe send Laura Leon's way, since he and folks that way seem to have an affinity for storms and high water.

Sonny




Thank you Sonny, NO THANK YOU. It's "your storm". But in hind site
it appears that the storm surge was pretty much a non event. We heard
it would be 20 feet deep near Lake Charles. We watched a local reporter
from Houston showing what was going on in Vinton this morning. She was
showing the storm serge by standing in a rain filled ditch. No water in
the streets. The media gives Saturday Night Live a run for its money.

Hope your brother and all came through with out too much anguish.
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On 8/25/2020 6:23 PM, Sonny wrote:
It wasn't too long ago I bought 1/2" CDX for ~$15 a sheet. I have a nice stock pile of 1/2".... some 5/8" CDX and 5/8" T1-11, also.

Went to get more 1/2" sheets, today, for boarding up my brother's windows, in the Lake Charles area. Price at Doug Ashy is $32 a sheet, Home Depot is $30 a sheet, Lowes is $29 a sheet.

Our only consolation is doing some hoodoo, maybe send Laura Leon's way, since he and folks that way seem to have an affinity for storms and high water.

Sonny




Thank you Sonny, NO THANK YOU. It's "your storm". But in hind site
it appears that the storm surge was pretty much a non event. We heard
it would be 20 feet deep near Lake Charles. We watched a local reporter
from Houston showing what was going on in Vinton this morning. She was
showing the storm serge by standing in a rain filled ditch. No water in
the streets. The media gives Saturday Night Live a run for its money.


The 20' storm surge prediction was from the National Weather Service/NOAA,
who said the "worst case" storm surge could reach 20'.

You can't blame the media for reporting the facts.
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Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet writes:
On 8/25/2020 6:23 PM, Sonny wrote:
It wasn't too long ago I bought 1/2" CDX for ~$15 a sheet. I have a nice stock pile of 1/2".... some 5/8" CDX and 5/8" T1-11, also.

Went to get more 1/2" sheets, today, for boarding up my brother's windows, in the Lake Charles area. Price at Doug Ashy is $32 a sheet, Home Depot is $30 a sheet, Lowes is $29 a sheet.

Our only consolation is doing some hoodoo, maybe send Laura Leon's way, since he and folks that way seem to have an affinity for storms and high water.

Sonny




Thank you Sonny, NO THANK YOU. It's "your storm". But in hind site
it appears that the storm surge was pretty much a non event. We heard
it would be 20 feet deep near Lake Charles. We watched a local reporter
from Houston showing what was going on in Vinton this morning. She was
showing the storm serge by standing in a rain filled ditch. No water in
the streets. The media gives Saturday Night Live a run for its money.


The 20' storm surge prediction was from the National Weather Service/NOAA,
who said the "worst case" storm surge could reach 20'.

You can't blame the media for reporting the facts.

Actually I was not blaming the NWS and I agreed that 20" would be bad.

What I said was that the storm surge was a non event and the local
Houston reporter was trying to make it look like the storm surge
actually happened. She demonstrated this by showing that when she
appeared standing in a rain filled ditch the water was up to her knees.
The street beside the ditch and the grass in front of the ditch had no
standing water.

So the media/local news person from Houston, was grossly trying to
distort the facts into something that did not actually happen where she
was, west of Lake Charles. Fake news.





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On 8/25/2020 6:23 PM, Sonny wrote:
It wasn't too long ago I bought 1/2" CDX for ~$15 a sheet. I have a nice stock pile of 1/2".... some 5/8" CDX and 5/8" T1-11, also.

Went to get more 1/2" sheets, today, for boarding up my brother's windows, in the Lake Charles area. Price at Doug Ashy is $32 a sheet, Home Depot is $30 a sheet, Lowes is $29 a sheet.

Our only consolation is doing some hoodoo, maybe send Laura Leon's way, since he and folks that way seem to have an affinity for storms and high water.

Sonny




Thank you Sonny, NO THANK YOU. It's "your storm". But in hind site
it appears that the storm surge was pretty much a non event. We heard
it would be 20 feet deep near Lake Charles. We watched a local reporter
from Houston showing what was going on in Vinton this morning. She was
showing the storm serge by standing in a rain filled ditch. No water in
the streets. The media gives Saturday Night Live a run for its money.

Hope your brother and all came through with out too much anguish.


The reporter was phony, not the storm surge. If she/her crew drove from Houston and plopped her a$$ in Vinton, of all places, then she totally missed the boat. If the storm's eye was 10-15 miles more west, both Lake Charles and Beaumont/Port Arthur would have seen much more surge via flowing into/from Sabine Pass and Calcasieu Lake. Lake Charles is 15' above sea level, Beaumont 16', Port Arthur 7'.

Though the surge didn't reach 20', it did reach 15' south of Lake Charles and eastward. La's whole coast is so low, sea level marshland, the surge reached I-10 in some areas, 30 miles inland.... same in Beaumont. Jennings, La., 26' above sea level and ~50 miles inland, had salt water flowing up the Mermentau River, there.

Brother's house is safe & secure. Thanks. He has large live oak limbs broken and lots smaller others scattered everywhere. No trees down or uprooted, though.

Western relatives gathered at here. We had a nice hurricane party. One half hour long power outage about 2:30 AM. We barely survived, though, my young brother's horrible coffee this morning.

Sonny
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On 8/27/2020 6:33 PM, Sonny wrote:
On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 1:29:08 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 8/25/2020 6:23 PM, Sonny wrote:
It wasn't too long ago I bought 1/2" CDX for ~$15 a sheet. I have a nice stock pile of 1/2".... some 5/8" CDX and 5/8" T1-11, also.

Went to get more 1/2" sheets, today, for boarding up my brother's windows, in the Lake Charles area. Price at Doug Ashy is $32 a sheet, Home Depot is $30 a sheet, Lowes is $29 a sheet.

Our only consolation is doing some hoodoo, maybe send Laura Leon's way, since he and folks that way seem to have an affinity for storms and high water.

Sonny




Thank you Sonny, NO THANK YOU. It's "your storm". But in hind site
it appears that the storm surge was pretty much a non event. We heard
it would be 20 feet deep near Lake Charles. We watched a local reporter
from Houston showing what was going on in Vinton this morning. She was
showing the storm serge by standing in a rain filled ditch. No water in
the streets. The media gives Saturday Night Live a run for its money.

Hope your brother and all came through with out too much anguish.


The reporter was phony, not the storm surge. If she/her crew drove from Houston and plopped her a$$ in Vinton, of all places, then she totally missed the boat. If the storm's eye was 10-15 miles more west, both Lake Charles and Beaumont/Port Arthur would have seen much more surge via flowing into/from Sabine Pass and Calcasieu Lake. Lake Charles is 15' above sea level, Beaumont 16', Port Arthur 7'.


Click on the second video with a guy climbing around on his car.


https://www.click2houston.com/weathe...theyre-seeing/
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On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 9:03:02 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:

Click on the second video with a guy climbing around on his car.


https://www.click2houston.com/weathe...theyre-seeing/


Well, I would give her a second opinion. She likely doesn't know any better, in that, she used the wrong terminology. That water is more likely standing rain water, flooding capacity. It hasn't drained because the surge water is keeping it from draining normally. Even at that time of day, though the eye of the hurricane is well north, circulating winds are still coming in from the Gulf, from off shore, still pushing Gulf water onto the farther east Louisiana coast. In all those areas the surge (nor the rain water) won't totally recede for a few days, a week in some areas. She not so wrong, but I think she just used the wrong term at the moment.

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Thank you Sonny, NO THANK YOU. It's "your storm". But in hind site
it appears that the storm surge was pretty much a non event. We heard
it would be 20 feet deep near Lake Charles. We watched a local reporter
from Houston showing what was going on in Vinton this morning. She was
showing the storm serge by standing in a rain filled ditch. No water in
the streets. The media gives Saturday Night Live a run for its money.


The 20' storm surge prediction was from the National Weather Service/NOAA,
who said the "worst case" storm surge could reach 20'.

You can't blame the media for reporting the facts.

Actually I was not blaming the NWS and I agreed that 20" would be bad.

What I said was that the storm surge was a non event and the local
Houston reporter was trying to make it look like the storm surge
actually happened. She demonstrated this by showing that when she
appeared standing in a rain filled ditch the water was up to her knees.
The street beside the ditch and the grass in front of the ditch had no
standing water.

So the media/local news person from Houston, was grossly trying to
distort the facts into something that did not actually happen where she
was, west of Lake Charles. Fake news.


Well Texans do have a tendancy towards exageration :-)

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Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet writes:
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Thank you Sonny, NO THANK YOU. It's "your storm". But in hind site
it appears that the storm surge was pretty much a non event. We heard
it would be 20 feet deep near Lake Charles. We watched a local reporter
from Houston showing what was going on in Vinton this morning. She was
showing the storm serge by standing in a rain filled ditch. No water in
the streets. The media gives Saturday Night Live a run for its money.

The 20' storm surge prediction was from the National Weather Service/NOAA,
who said the "worst case" storm surge could reach 20'.

You can't blame the media for reporting the facts.

Actually I was not blaming the NWS and I agreed that 20" would be bad.

What I said was that the storm surge was a non event and the local
Houston reporter was trying to make it look like the storm surge
actually happened. She demonstrated this by showing that when she
appeared standing in a rain filled ditch the water was up to her knees.
The street beside the ditch and the grass in front of the ditch had no
standing water.

So the media/local news person from Houston, was grossly trying to
distort the facts into something that did not actually happen where she
was, west of Lake Charles. Fake news.


Well Texans do have a tendancy towards exageration :-)


Nooooooo? ;!)


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On 8/27/2020 10:08 PM, Sonny wrote:
On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 9:03:02 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:

Click on the second video with a guy climbing around on his car.


https://www.click2houston.com/weathe...theyre-seeing/


Well, I would give her a second opinion. She likely doesn't know any better, in that, she used the wrong terminology.


Well maybe. ;~) I think it is the media syndrome of not yet knowing
how to stop talking and think about what you are saying before blurting
it out. Heck the main guy in charge of weather at the particular
station, Frank Billingsley, indicated that September 1 will be the first
meteorological say of "Summer". Actually it is the first meteorological
day of Fall.


That water is more likely standing rain water, flooding capacity.

Yes!

It hasn't drained because the surge water is keeping it from draining
normally.

We saw images from Cameron and the streets were clear of water and
hardly any water was in the ditches. I suspect that Vinton simply got a
lot of rain and the ditches are still full, storm serge or not. Houston
ditches stay quite full for days after a decent rain.


Even at that time of day, though the eye of the hurricane is well
north, circulating winds are still coming in from the Gulf, from off
shore, still pushing Gulf water onto the farther east Louisiana coast.
In all those areas the surge (nor the rain water) won't totally recede
for a few days, a week in some areas. She not so wrong, but I think
she just used the wrong term at the moment.

You are sooo forgiving. ;~)

Anyway. Glad to hear that y'all came through OK. I have been through 5
bad hurricanes, 6 if you count Harvey 3 years ago to the day. But that
was mostly 50 inches of rain in 3 days and countless tropical storms
that caused massive flooding for weeks. It is not for the faint of heart.

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On Friday, August 28, 2020 at 12:37:31 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 8/27/2020 10:08 PM, Sonny wrote:
On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 9:03:02 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:

Click on the second video with a guy climbing around on his car.


https://www.click2houston.com/weathe...theyre-seeing/


Well, I would give her a second opinion. She likely doesn't know any better, in that, she used the wrong terminology.


Well maybe. ;~) I think it is the media syndrome of not yet knowing
how to stop talking and think about what you are saying before blurting
it out. Heck the main guy in charge of weather at the particular
station, Frank Billingsley, indicated that September 1 will be the first
meteorological say of "Summer". Actually it is the first meteorological
day of Fall.


That water is more likely standing rain water, flooding capacity.

Yes!

It hasn't drained because the surge water is keeping it from draining
normally.

We saw images from Cameron and the streets were clear of water and
hardly any water was in the ditches. I suspect that Vinton simply got a
lot of rain and the ditches are still full, storm serge or not. Houston
ditches stay quite full for days after a decent rain.


Even at that time of day, though the eye of the hurricane is well
north, circulating winds are still coming in from the Gulf, from off
shore, still pushing Gulf water onto the farther east Louisiana coast.
In all those areas the surge (nor the rain water) won't totally recede
for a few days, a week in some areas. She not so wrong, but I think
she just used the wrong term at the moment.

You are sooo forgiving. ;~)

Anyway. Glad to hear that y'all came through OK. I have been through 5
bad hurricanes, 6 if you count Harvey 3 years ago to the day. But that
was mostly 50 inches of rain in 3 days and countless tropical storms
that caused massive flooding for weeks. It is not for the faint of heart.


FWIW...earlier today I saw a scroll on the bottom of my TV that some areas
experienced a record setting storm surge of 17'. I didn't have time to stop
and watch the report, so I don't have any details.
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FWIW...earlier today I saw a scroll on the bottom of my TV that some areas
experienced a record setting storm surge of 17'. I didn't have time to stop
and watch the report, so I don't have any details.


Maybe this will help with understanding some things, put things in perspective.

Cameron is not so much a small town or city. It is a small region right at the coast, below Lake Charles.... and the parish (county) is Cameron Parish. It's a "jumping off" point for offshore workers, pumping stations, other oil field related settings. And folks do have homes and camps along the coast, also.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ca...!4d-93.3251535

Here's US Coast Guard fly-over video. The straight "lines" of land are levees, not simple ditch confines. There are man made levees along the coast to keep surges at bay and/or help prevent coastal erosion. The levee at Holly Beach is 1/2 mile inland. Yes, there is somewhat high ground there, but most was man-made high land. Some of this high land is from the creating/digging of the intercoastal waterway, oil field related and other dredging. Almost all significant waterways are periodically dredged for shipping, barge traffic and other boating. The coastal levees have periodic gaps to allow water to flow back to the Gulf, when need be.
https://www.katc.com/news/covering-l...ura-in-cameron

Why does it show standing homes in the US Coast Guard video? Because it's mandated that homes, camps, etc. be built on stilts.
https://www.myarklamiss.com/weather/...rricane-laura/

There may not have been a 20' surge, but there was one of significance. Pic #14 in this link is Hwy 3147 (posted 15 hours after Laura's landfall). If I'm not mistaken, Hwy was built on a levee. Note the "grass" growing on the sides of the highway. That grass is Roseau Cane.... it's 12' tall.
https://www.google.com/search?q=rose...w=1920&bih=937

Now go back and view the US Coast Guard videos with some of that Roseau cane in mind. Also, the marsh has marsh grass, floating thick mats of marsh grass, 2' - 5' tall. You can mostly walk on the mats, they are so thick, but you also sink a bit, like walking on a spongy lawn. You can also often punch through the mats and sink over your head in places. Not all of that "land" in the videos is solid land.... same for most of the Louisiana's coast, as well as the continuing coastal areas to Galveston, Tx. I've never been beyond League City's/Galveston's coast, westward, but I assume it's nearly the same terrain for some distance.

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On Friday, August 28, 2020 at 12:45:57 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:



FWIW...earlier today I saw a scroll on the bottom of my TV that some areas
experienced a record setting storm surge of 17'. I didn't have time to stop
and watch the report, so I don't have any details.


Maybe this will help with understanding some things, put things in perspective.

Cameron is not so much a small town or city. It is a small region right at the coast, below Lake Charles.... and the parish (county) is Cameron Parish. It's a "jumping off" point for offshore workers, pumping stations, other oil field related settings. And folks do have homes and camps along the coast, also.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ca...!4d-93.3251535

Here's US Coast Guard fly-over video. The straight "lines" of land are levees, not simple ditch confines. There are man made levees along the coast to keep surges at bay and/or help prevent coastal erosion. The levee at Holly Beach is 1/2 mile inland. Yes, there is somewhat high ground there, but most was man-made high land. Some of this high land is from the creating/digging of the intercoastal waterway, oil field related and other dredging. Almost all significant waterways are periodically dredged for shipping, barge traffic and other boating. The coastal levees have periodic gaps to allow water to flow back to the Gulf, when need be.
https://www.katc.com/news/covering-l...ura-in-cameron

Why does it show standing homes in the US Coast Guard video? Because it's mandated that homes, camps, etc. be built on stilts.
https://www.myarklamiss.com/weather/...rricane-laura/

There may not have been a 20' surge, but there was one of significance. Pic #14 in this link is Hwy 3147 (posted 15 hours after Laura's landfall). If I'm not mistaken, Hwy was built on a levee. Note the "grass" growing on the sides of the highway. That grass is Roseau Cane.... it's 12' tall.
https://www.google.com/search?q=rose...w=1920&bih=937

Now go back and view the US Coast Guard videos with some of that Roseau cane in mind. Also, the marsh has marsh grass, floating thick mats of marsh grass, 2' - 5' tall. You can mostly walk on the mats, they are so thick, but you also sink a bit, like walking on a spongy lawn. You can also often punch through the mats and sink over your head in places. Not all of that "land" in the videos is solid land.... same for most of the Louisiana's coast, as well as the continuing coastal areas to Galveston, Tx. I've never been beyond League City's/Galveston's coast, westward, but I assume it's nearly the same terrain for some distance.

Sonny



One other thing to consider. A 20 foot storm serge might not reach an
area 22 feet above sea level. Again the locals lead us to believe that
the surge would be 20 feet all the way to Lake Jackson.
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Let's try the Hwy 3147 link again, see pic #14.
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