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what's a 12 inch jointer worth ;-)
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On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 3:51:07 PM UTC-5, wrote:
... it's not a Craftsman ... https://tinyurl.com/ycrqznrr John T. Hub, you in the USA? If so, that Canadian electricity might not work, here. Might need some southern hemisphere electricity to run it!! I'd suppose it's in working order. For a Canadian, maybe $500 to $750 tops. I'd want all the wiring, switches and boxes, also. If it has other accessories, then possibly $1000, depending on the accessories. It's an auction. bid low and see what happens. You can always walk away. Another view here with the floor cleaned up - https://www.jantziauctions.net/16 Sonny |
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On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 5:36:32 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 3:51:07 PM UTC-5, wrote: ... it's not a Craftsman ... https://tinyurl.com/ycrqznrr John T. Hub, you in the USA? If so, that Canadian electricity might not work, here. Might need some southern hemisphere electricity to run it!! I'd suppose it's in working order. For a Canadian, maybe $500 to $750 tops. I'd want all the wiring, switches and boxes, also. If it has other accessories, then possibly $1000, depending on the accessories. It's an auction. bid low and see what happens. You can always walk away. Another view here with the floor cleaned up - https://www.jantziauctions.net/16 Sonny Then again, you might can get it for not much money, at all. Sale ends tomorrow. Nine bids so for and top bid is $40 Canadian. Compared to the bidding on the band saw, router & table, table saw and drill press, no one really wants the jointer. https://jantziauctions.hibid.com/cat...nline-auction/ Sonny |
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On Tue, 19 May 2020 15:36:29 -0700 (PDT), Sonny
wrote: On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 3:51:07 PM UTC-5, wrote: ... it's not a Craftsman ... https://tinyurl.com/ycrqznrr John T. Hub, you in the USA? If so, that Canadian electricity might not work, here. Might need some southern hemisphere electricity to run it!! I'd suppose it's in working order. For a Canadian, maybe $500 to $750 tops. I'd want all the wiring, switches and boxes, also. If it has other accessories, then possibly $1000, depending on the accessories. It's an auction. bid low and see what happens. You can always walk away. Another view here with the floor cleaned up - https://www.jantziauctions.net/16 Sonny I'm not interested in owning it - just posted here for a chuckle. John T. |
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On Tue, 19 May 2020 18:50:31 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2020 18:13:14 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2020 16:55:21 -0400, wrote: ... it's not a Craftsman ... https://tinyurl.com/ycrqznrr John T. 550-600V? A nickel a pound. Don't figure a 230 volt motor will spin it ? ... I'm not an interested bidder - just posted here for a chuckle. And how big is this motor? How big is the service needed? I still stand by a nickel a pound, minus a month of chiropractor's care. |
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On Tue, 19 May 2020 20:49:56 -0500, Markem
wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2020 16:55:21 -0400, wrote: ... it's not a Craftsman ... https://tinyurl.com/ycrqznrr John T. So you in? I might put in a bid on a couple small items - but not the jointer. The auction is not far from me. John T. |
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On Tue, 19 May 2020 16:55:21 -0400, wrote:
... it's not a Craftsman ... https://tinyurl.com/ycrqznrr John T. A heck of a lot more than $40 Busy bee about $4000 new About $6000 for a new "hammer" brand If you've got the 550 3 phase power it would be a steal for $250 and within easy pick-up distance for you. |
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... it's not a Craftsman ... https://tinyurl.com/ycrqznrr John T. A heck of a lot more than $40 Busy bee about $4000 new About $6000 for a new "hammer" brand If you've got the 550 3 phase power it would be a steal for $250 and within easy pick-up distance for you. I just posted it here for a chuckle - I certainly do not have any desire to own such a machine. I do miss the live auctions, though - where a person can check-out the interesting stuff .... Do you think this could be easily re-powered with a large 230 volt motor ? ... again - just curious. John T. |
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On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 7:52:01 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Do you think this could be easily re-powered with a large 230 volt motor ? ... again - just curious. John T. Possibly. Being belt drive would help that effort. If it was direct drive, then probably not. Sonny |
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On 5/20/2020 7:56 AM, wrote:
... it's not a Craftsman ... https://tinyurl.com/ycrqznrr John T. A heck of a lot more than $40 Busy bee about $4000 new About $6000 for a new "hammer" brand If you've got the 550 3 phase power it would be a steal for $250 and within easy pick-up distance for you. I just posted it here for a chuckle - I certainly do not have any desire to own such a machine. I do miss the live auctions, though - where a person can check-out the interesting stuff .... Do you think this could be easily re-powered with a large 230 volt motor ? ... again - just curious. I'd love to have something of the sort again...actually, never owned one but had free access to 16" Crescent for years in friend's shop only a short hop from home... The last picture that shows back side with the hand crank shows the drive belts shroud. You'd want at least a 5HP motor and bigger would be better, but looks to me as would be doable. A single phase of ample HP might not fit in the location underneath, but you wouldn't have to mount it there. If you have 3PH available even if have to swap out for more common voltage, motors are available pretty reasonably as there's a lot of similar equipment repurposed/converted so the 3PH motors are around. I don't know the particular machine/manufacturer, but it'll weigh a ton or more but other than the logistics would be a dream to have it or a Crescent or the like... -- |
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Haven't heard from FrozenNorth in a long while. Might anyone have his contact. He'a in Toronto and, if I recall correctly, he wanted a 12" jointer.
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On Wed, 20 May 2020 08:56:16 -0400, wrote:
... it's not a Craftsman ... https://tinyurl.com/ycrqznrr John T. A heck of a lot more than $40 Busy bee about $4000 new About $6000 for a new "hammer" brand If you've got the 550 3 phase power it would be a steal for $250 and within easy pick-up distance for you. I just posted it here for a chuckle - I certainly do not have any desire to own such a machine. I do miss the live auctions, though - where a person can check-out the interesting stuff .... Do you think this could be easily re-powered with a large 230 volt motor ? ... again - just curious. John T. For sure - and some of our "dave martin" friends up Wallenstein/Yatton/Linwood way would run it on a jackshaft off a diesel too. |
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On Wed, 20 May 2020 13:14:22 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2020 08:56:16 -0400, wrote: ... it's not a Craftsman ... https://tinyurl.com/ycrqznrr John T. A heck of a lot more than $40 Busy bee about $4000 new About $6000 for a new "hammer" brand If you've got the 550 3 phase power it would be a steal for $250 and within easy pick-up distance for you. I just posted it here for a chuckle - I certainly do not have any desire to own such a machine. I do miss the live auctions, though - where a person can check-out the interesting stuff .... Do you think this could be easily re-powered with a large 230 volt motor ? ... again - just curious. John T. For sure - and some of our "dave martin" friends up Wallenstein/Yatton/Linwood way would run it on a jackshaft off a diesel too. There's whats-left of a '29 Durant in the fenceline back home - was used to power a buzz-saw when I was a kid. John T. |
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On Wed, 20 May 2020 09:59:22 -0700 (PDT), Sonny
wrote: Haven't heard from FrozenNorth in a long while. Might anyone have his contact. He'a in Toronto and, if I recall correctly, he wanted a 12" jointer. Sonny Nope sorry. John T. |
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dpb wrote in :
*snip* You'd want at least a 5HP motor and bigger would be better, but looks to me as would be doable. A single phase of ample HP might not fit in the location underneath, but you wouldn't have to mount it there. *snip* That big of motor kinda makes me wonder about a gas-powered engine. Pull the snow blower motor off during the spring and make chips. As a bonus, the motor hasn't sat for the last several months with nothing to do. Maybe a good idea for one of those barn style shops with lots of space. Puckdropper |
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On Wed, 20 May 2020 13:28:44 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 20 May 2020 13:14:22 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2020 08:56:16 -0400, wrote: ... it's not a Craftsman ... https://tinyurl.com/ycrqznrr John T. A heck of a lot more than $40 Busy bee about $4000 new About $6000 for a new "hammer" brand If you've got the 550 3 phase power it would be a steal for $250 and within easy pick-up distance for you. I just posted it here for a chuckle - I certainly do not have any desire to own such a machine. I do miss the live auctions, though - where a person can check-out the interesting stuff .... Do you think this could be easily re-powered with a large 230 volt motor ? ... again - just curious. John T. For sure - and some of our "dave martin" friends up Wallenstein/Yatton/Linwood way would run it on a jackshaft off a diesel too. There's whats-left of a '29 Durant in the fenceline back home - was used to power a buzz-saw when I was a kid. John T. When my dad was a youngster their tractor was an old Buick touring car with a Leyland truck transmission and rear axle grafted on the back with an old Star engine across the back for ballast and belt power (A star was a 4 cyl Durant) |
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On Wed, 20 May 2020 17:45:29 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2020 13:28:44 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2020 13:14:22 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2020 08:56:16 -0400, wrote: ... it's not a Craftsman ... https://tinyurl.com/ycrqznrr John T. A heck of a lot more than $40 Busy bee about $4000 new About $6000 for a new "hammer" brand If you've got the 550 3 phase power it would be a steal for $250 and within easy pick-up distance for you. I just posted it here for a chuckle - I certainly do not have any desire to own such a machine. I do miss the live auctions, though - where a person can check-out the interesting stuff .... Do you think this could be easily re-powered with a large 230 volt motor ? ... again - just curious. John T. For sure - and some of our "dave martin" friends up Wallenstein/Yatton/Linwood way would run it on a jackshaft off a diesel too. There's whats-left of a '29 Durant in the fenceline back home - was used to power a buzz-saw when I was a kid. John T. When my dad was a youngster their tractor was an old Buick touring car with a Leyland truck transmission and rear axle grafted on the back with an old Star engine across the back for ballast and belt power (A star was a 4 cyl Durant) Those were the days when you could easily make such a frankenvehicle. Unibodys have spoiled a lot of fun. |
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On 5/20/2020 6:56 AM, wrote:
... it's not a Craftsman ... https://tinyurl.com/ycrqznrr John T. A heck of a lot more than $40 Busy bee about $4000 new About $6000 for a new "hammer" brand If you've got the 550 3 phase power it would be a steal for $250 and within easy pick-up distance for you. I just posted it here for a chuckle - I certainly do not have any desire to own such a machine. I do miss the live auctions, though - where a person can check-out the interesting stuff .... Do you think this could be easily re-powered with a large 230 volt motor ? ... again - just curious. if, if, if ... It could be powered by squirrels on a treadmill, if you got enough of them. |
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On Wed, 20 May 2020 18:25:14 -0400, J. Clarke
wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2020 17:45:29 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2020 13:28:44 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2020 13:14:22 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2020 08:56:16 -0400, wrote: ... it's not a Craftsman ... https://tinyurl.com/ycrqznrr John T. A heck of a lot more than $40 Busy bee about $4000 new About $6000 for a new "hammer" brand If you've got the 550 3 phase power it would be a steal for $250 and within easy pick-up distance for you. I just posted it here for a chuckle - I certainly do not have any desire to own such a machine. I do miss the live auctions, though - where a person can check-out the interesting stuff .... Do you think this could be easily re-powered with a large 230 volt motor ? ... again - just curious. John T. For sure - and some of our "dave martin" friends up Wallenstein/Yatton/Linwood way would run it on a jackshaft off a diesel too. There's whats-left of a '29 Durant in the fenceline back home - was used to power a buzz-saw when I was a kid. John T. When my dad was a youngster their tractor was an old Buick touring car with a Leyland truck transmission and rear axle grafted on the back with an old Star engine across the back for ballast and belt power (A star was a 4 cyl Durant) Those were the days when you could easily make such a frankenvehicle. Unibodys have spoiled a lot of fun. You can still make a "frankentruck" or "frankenjeep" and even Unibofies can be "frankensteined" using structural steel. |
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On Wed, 20 May 2020 18:06:33 -0600, Just Wondering wrote:
On 5/20/2020 6:56 AM, wrote: ... it's not a Craftsman ... https://tinyurl.com/ycrqznrr John T. A heck of a lot more than $40 Busy bee about $4000 new About $6000 for a new "hammer" brand If you've got the 550 3 phase power it would be a steal for $250 and within easy pick-up distance for you. I just posted it here for a chuckle - I certainly do not have any desire to own such a machine. I do miss the live auctions, though - where a person can check-out the interesting stuff .... Do you think this could be easily re-powered with a large 230 volt motor ? ... again - just curious. if, if, if ... It could be powered by squirrels on a treadmill, if you got enough of them. But you got to feed the damn tree rats. |
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On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 10:36:21 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2020 16:55:21 -0400, wrote: ... it's not a Craftsman ... https://tinyurl.com/ycrqznrr John T. A heck of a lot more than $40 Busy bee about $4000 new About $6000 for a new "hammer" brand If you've got the 550 3 phase power it would be a steal for $250 and within easy pick-up distance for you. It sold for $310 CAN, still a good price I think. https://jantziauctions.hibid.com/cat...nline-auction/ Sonny |
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On Fri, 22 May 2020 06:13:05 -0700 (PDT), Sonny
wrote: https://jantziauctions.hibid.com/cat...nline-auction/ I'll let you know if I see it going down the road ... behind a team, on a horse wagon .. :-) My $ 5. bid on the Veritas scrapers & burnisher didn't hold up. John T. |
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On 5/22/2020 8:13 AM, Sonny wrote:
On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 10:36:21 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2020 16:55:21 -0400, wrote: ... it's not a Craftsman ... https://tinyurl.com/ycrqznrr John T. A heck of a lot more than $40 Busy bee about $4000 new About $6000 for a new "hammer" brand If you've got the 550 3 phase power it would be a steal for $250 and within easy pick-up distance for you. It sold for $310 CAN, still a good price I think. https://jantziauctions.hibid.com/cat...nline-auction/ Indeed. Particularly if one already has three-phase available... I moved the PM66 planer but didn't hook up for years when came back to farm and tried to be satisfied w/ the Rockwell/Delta Model 13. But the 5" width difference and extra power became so frustrating bought the converter and wire up 3PH circuit for it...never regretted the additional outlay. Would be the same sort of thing for a puppy of this sort... -- |
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On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 10:29:22 AM UTC-5, dpb wrote:
On 5/22/2020 8:13 AM, Sonny wrote: On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 10:36:21 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2020 16:55:21 -0400, wrote: ... it's not a Craftsman ... https://tinyurl.com/ycrqznrr John T. A heck of a lot more than $40 Busy bee about $4000 new About $6000 for a new "hammer" brand If you've got the 550 3 phase power it would be a steal for $250 and within easy pick-up distance for you. It sold for $310 CAN, still a good price I think. https://jantziauctions.hibid.com/cat...nline-auction/ Indeed. Particularly if one already has three-phase available... I moved the PM66 planer but didn't hook up for years when came back to farm and tried to be satisfied w/ the Rockwell/Delta Model 13. But the 5" width difference and extra power became so frustrating bought the converter and wire up 3PH circuit for it...never regretted the additional outlay. Would be the same sort of thing for a puppy of this sort... Replacing the motor with single phase is likely doable for that jointer. Frozzy (FrozenNorth) hasn't posted since 2013. I found an email address for him and sent a note. Haven't gotten a response. Hope he's okay. Sonny |
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Sonny wrote:
Frozzy (FrozenNorth) hasn't posted since 2013. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!activity/rec.woodworking/T33P5v_OCwAJ |
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On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 12:56:42 PM UTC-5, Spalted Walt wrote:
Sonny wrote: Frozzy (FrozenNorth) hasn't posted since 2013. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!activity/rec.woodworking/T33P5v_OCwAJ Sonny --- faulty search, apparently. |
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On 5/22/2020 10:48 AM, Sonny wrote:
On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 10:29:22 AM UTC-5, dpb wrote: On 5/22/2020 8:13 AM, Sonny wrote: .... It sold for $310 CAN, still a good price I think. https://jantziauctions.hibid.com/cat...nline-auction/ Indeed. Particularly if one already has three-phase available... I moved the PM66 planer but didn't hook up for years when came back to farm and tried to be satisfied w/ the Rockwell/Delta Model 13. But the 5" width difference and extra power became so frustrating bought the converter and wire up 3PH circuit for it...never regretted the additional outlay. Would be the same sort of thing for a puppy of this sort... Replacing the motor with single phase is likely doable for that jointer. .... That's the point at which the tradeoff between what need to supply the (much) larger current draw of the 1PH vs 3PH comes into play in making the decision as well. For me, pulling that the length of the barn to where wanted the planer was much more trouble than being able to tap into the subpanel already near the area. We had had a small feed mill there that had all the motor controls still there for it (all single phase, unfortunately; we don't have a 3PH tap from the co-op and to drop one of those would have required a re-do of the whole pole and pretty good fee) so had all the service needed for the current draw of the converter at the box but could then just run #10 for the planer itself instead of #4 or #6. Much easier to work with!  -- |
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