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HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
I want to place two 4 foot LED slim lights in my long narrow cold
room - top corner, 1 per side, staggered - - a couple "plastic" 45 degree mounting blocks for each light would allow them to be angled out from the top corner and provide a bit of a thermal / moisture break from the concrete. I'm trying to avoid wood - the cold room can get pretty damp at times and I don't want to promote mold/mildew. I'm thinking a piece 4 " square x 1.5 " thick would be cut in half diagonally to make 2 mounts. Buying thick HDPE or phenolic is a bit pricy for this job - any suggestions for a similar - but cheaper - product ? Even re-purposing a common cheap item ... ? Treated wood might be my final solution - but I thought I'd pick your brains first. John T. |
HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
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HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 3:32:25 PM UTC-5, wrote:
I want to place two 4 foot LED slim lights in my long narrow cold room - top corner, 1 per side, staggered - - a couple "plastic" 45 degree mounting blocks for each light would allow them to be angled out from the top corner and provide a bit of a thermal / moisture break from the concrete. I'm trying to avoid wood - the cold room can get pretty damp at times and I don't want to promote mold/mildew. I'm thinking a piece 4 " square x 1.5 " thick would be cut in half diagonally to make 2 mounts. Buying thick HDPE or phenolic is a bit pricy for this job - any suggestions for a similar - but cheaper - product ? Even re-purposing a common cheap item ... ? Treated wood might be my final solution - but I thought I'd pick your brains first. John T. What about vinyl? Under $10 should get you all the material you need: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Veranda-...HWS3/100275037 https://www.homedepot.com/p/Oatey-8-...0133/100345577 |
HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 13:52:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 3:32:25 PM UTC-5, wrote: I want to place two 4 foot LED slim lights in my long narrow cold room - top corner, 1 per side, staggered - - a couple "plastic" 45 degree mounting blocks for each light would allow them to be angled out from the top corner and provide a bit of a thermal / moisture break from the concrete. I'm trying to avoid wood - the cold room can get pretty damp at times and I don't want to promote mold/mildew. I'm thinking a piece 4 " square x 1.5 " thick would be cut in half diagonally to make 2 mounts. Buying thick HDPE or phenolic is a bit pricy for this job - any suggestions for a similar - but cheaper - product ? Even re-purposing a common cheap item ... ? Treated wood might be my final solution - but I thought I'd pick your brains first. John T. What about vinyl? Under $10 should get you all the material you need: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Veranda-...HWS3/100275037 https://www.homedepot.com/p/Oatey-8-...0133/100345577 Thanks - I never thought of that. John T. |
HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
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HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 19:03:23 -0500, J. Clarke
wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 15:35:49 -0500, wrote: I want to place two 4 foot LED slim lights in my long narrow cold room - top corner, 1 per side, staggered - - a couple "plastic" 45 degree mounting blocks for each light would allow them to be angled out from the top corner and provide a bit of a thermal / moisture break from the concrete. I'm trying to avoid wood - the cold room can get pretty damp at times and I don't want to promote mold/mildew. I'm thinking a piece 4 " square x 1.5 " thick would be cut in half diagonally to make 2 mounts. Buying thick HDPE or phenolic is a bit pricy for this job - any suggestions for a similar - but cheaper - product ? Even re-purposing a common cheap item ... ? Treated wood might be my final solution - but I thought I'd pick your brains first. My local Home Depot has 3/4 x 2.5 x 8 ft PVC trim boards for 11 bucks. One of those, cut it up, glue a couple of pieces together to get the thickness might do the job. Thanks - someone else mentioned that stuff - I'll check out the Lowes/Home Depot/Home Hardware tomorrow. It comes in full 1 inch thickness also. John T. |
HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 18:35:43 -0500, wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 14:42:13 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 5:11:44 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 13:52:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 3:32:25 PM UTC-5, wrote: I want to place two 4 foot LED slim lights in my long narrow cold room - top corner, 1 per side, staggered - - a couple "plastic" 45 degree mounting blocks for each light would allow them to be angled out from the top corner and provide a bit of a thermal / moisture break from the concrete. I'm trying to avoid wood - the cold room can get pretty damp at times and I don't want to promote mold/mildew. I'm thinking a piece 4 " square x 1.5 " thick would be cut in half diagonally to make 2 mounts. Buying thick HDPE or phenolic is a bit pricy for this job - any suggestions for a similar - but cheaper - product ? Even re-purposing a common cheap item ... ? Treated wood might be my final solution - but I thought I'd pick your brains first. John T. What about vinyl? Under $10 should get you all the material you need: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Veranda-...HWS3/100275037 https://www.homedepot.com/p/Oatey-8-...0133/100345577 That might not be the best cement for PVC "boards" but there are a few good PVC adhesives available. I've used Super Glue but it takes a good 10 seconds to bond enough to stay together. Coarse pocket screws would work for edge gluing or buy wider planks. I'll check out Lowes / HD to see if they have any cut-offs - the 1 x 3 1/2 comes in 10 ft. lengths and would cost ~ $ 35. http://tinyurl.com/uj89gvt .. an 1 foot piece would almost do. John T. I think I've got some chunks of HDPE or Nylon up at the farm in Salem/Alma area |
HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 19:03:23 -0500, J. Clarke
wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 15:35:49 -0500, wrote: I want to place two 4 foot LED slim lights in my long narrow cold room - top corner, 1 per side, staggered - - a couple "plastic" 45 degree mounting blocks for each light would allow them to be angled out from the top corner and provide a bit of a thermal / moisture break from the concrete. I'm trying to avoid wood - the cold room can get pretty damp at times and I don't want to promote mold/mildew. I'm thinking a piece 4 " square x 1.5 " thick would be cut in half diagonally to make 2 mounts. Buying thick HDPE or phenolic is a bit pricy for this job - any suggestions for a similar - but cheaper - product ? Even re-purposing a common cheap item ... ? Treated wood might be my final solution - but I thought I'd pick your brains first. My local Home Depot has 3/4 x 2.5 x 8 ft PVC trim boards for 11 bucks. One of those, cut it up, glue a couple of pieces together to get the thickness might do the job. That's likely $33 in Canada - - - - |
HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 8:00:24 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 19:03:23 -0500, J. Clarke wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 15:35:49 -0500, wrote: I want to place two 4 foot LED slim lights in my long narrow cold room - top corner, 1 per side, staggered - - a couple "plastic" 45 degree mounting blocks for each light would allow them to be angled out from the top corner and provide a bit of a thermal / moisture break from the concrete. I'm trying to avoid wood - the cold room can get pretty damp at times and I don't want to promote mold/mildew. I'm thinking a piece 4 " square x 1.5 " thick would be cut in half diagonally to make 2 mounts. Buying thick HDPE or phenolic is a bit pricy for this job - any suggestions for a similar - but cheaper - product ? Even re-purposing a common cheap item ... ? Treated wood might be my final solution - but I thought I'd pick your brains first. My local Home Depot has 3/4 x 2.5 x 8 ft PVC trim boards for 11 bucks. One of those, cut it up, glue a couple of pieces together to get the thickness might do the job. Thanks - someone else mentioned that stuff - I'll check out the Lowes/Home Depot/Home Hardware tomorrow. It comes in full 1 inch thickness also. John T. Watch out...it makes a mess when cutting and routing. Little pieces of staticky white stuff everywhere. I really like working with it though. |
HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 15:35:49 -0500, wrote:
I want to place two 4 foot LED slim lights in my long narrow cold room - top corner, 1 per side, staggered - - a couple "plastic" 45 degree mounting blocks for each light would allow them to be angled out from the top corner and provide a bit of a thermal / moisture break from the concrete. I'm trying to avoid wood - the cold room can get pretty damp at times and I don't want to promote mold/mildew. I'm thinking a piece 4 " square x 1.5 " thick would be cut in half diagonally to make 2 mounts. Buying thick HDPE or phenolic is a bit pricy for this job - any suggestions for a similar - but cheaper - product ? Even re-purposing a common cheap item ... ? Treated wood might be my final solution - but I thought I'd pick your brains first. John T. On Ebay block of UHMW 8" x 2.25" x 2.25" $22.56 (inludes shipping) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Powernail-L...item420bfcf459 block of UHMW 5" x 3" x 1" $6.95 (inludes shipping) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-UHMW-...S/282617591170 I used a piece of maybe 1/2" thick UHMW to mount a rain gauge above the roof on a piece of pipe. Been there a couple of years so should work fine in your slightly damp environment. |
HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 09:57:59 -0500, ads wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 15:35:49 -0500, wrote: I want to place two 4 foot LED slim lights in my long narrow cold room - top corner, 1 per side, staggered - - a couple "plastic" 45 degree mounting blocks for each light would allow them to be angled out from the top corner and provide a bit of a thermal / moisture break from the concrete. I'm trying to avoid wood - the cold room can get pretty damp at times and I don't want to promote mold/mildew. I'm thinking a piece 4 " square x 1.5 " thick would be cut in half diagonally to make 2 mounts. Buying thick HDPE or phenolic is a bit pricy for this job - any suggestions for a similar - but cheaper - product ? Even re-purposing a common cheap item ... ? Treated wood might be my final solution - but I thought I'd pick your brains first. John T. On Ebay block of UHMW 8" x 2.25" x 2.25" $22.56 (inludes shipping) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Powernail-L...item420bfcf459 block of UHMW 5" x 3" x 1" $6.95 (inludes shipping) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-UHMW-...S/282617591170 I used a piece of maybe 1/2" thick UHMW to mount a rain gauge above the roof on a piece of pipe. Been there a couple of years so should work fine in your slightly damp environment. Thanks for your efforts - unforunately, by the time I convert currency and pay shipping to Canada - it would probably cost me closer to $ 40. ... about what I'll pay for the two 4 foot LED light fixtures. John T. |
HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 12:32:25 PM UTC-8, wrote:
I want to place two 4 foot LED slim lights in my long narrow cold room ... Treated wood might be my final solution - but I thought I'd pick your brains first. A wood bracket painted with exterior stain ought to last decades indoors. |
HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 10:23:33 -0500, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 09:57:59 -0500, ads wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 15:35:49 -0500, wrote: I want to place two 4 foot LED slim lights in my long narrow cold room - top corner, 1 per side, staggered - - a couple "plastic" 45 degree mounting blocks for each light would allow them to be angled out from the top corner and provide a bit of a thermal / moisture break from the concrete. I'm trying to avoid wood - the cold room can get pretty damp at times and I don't want to promote mold/mildew. I'm thinking a piece 4 " square x 1.5 " thick would be cut in half diagonally to make 2 mounts. Buying thick HDPE or phenolic is a bit pricy for this job - any suggestions for a similar - but cheaper - product ? Even re-purposing a common cheap item ... ? Treated wood might be my final solution - but I thought I'd pick your brains first. John T. On Ebay block of UHMW 8" x 2.25" x 2.25" $22.56 (inludes shipping) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Powernail-L...item420bfcf459 block of UHMW 5" x 3" x 1" $6.95 (inludes shipping) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-UHMW-...S/282617591170 I used a piece of maybe 1/2" thick UHMW to mount a rain gauge above the roof on a piece of pipe. Been there a couple of years so should work fine in your slightly damp environment. Thanks for your efforts - unforunately, by the time I convert currency and pay shipping to Canada - it would probably cost me closer to $ 40. ... about what I'll pay for the two 4 foot LED light fixtures. John T. How about I check to see what I have - mabee you buy me that breakfast at Schmitsville and I bring you some HDPE? |
HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 16:51:49 -0500, Clare Snyder
wrote: On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 10:23:33 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 09:57:59 -0500, ads wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 15:35:49 -0500, wrote: I want to place two 4 foot LED slim lights in my long narrow cold room - top corner, 1 per side, staggered - - a couple "plastic" 45 degree mounting blocks for each light would allow them to be angled out from the top corner and provide a bit of a thermal / moisture break from the concrete. I'm trying to avoid wood - the cold room can get pretty damp at times and I don't want to promote mold/mildew. I'm thinking a piece 4 " square x 1.5 " thick would be cut in half diagonally to make 2 mounts. Buying thick HDPE or phenolic is a bit pricy for this job - any suggestions for a similar - but cheaper - product ? Even re-purposing a common cheap item ... ? Treated wood might be my final solution - but I thought I'd pick your brains first. John T. On Ebay block of UHMW 8" x 2.25" x 2.25" $22.56 (inludes shipping) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Powernail-L...item420bfcf459 block of UHMW 5" x 3" x 1" $6.95 (inludes shipping) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-UHMW-...S/282617591170 I used a piece of maybe 1/2" thick UHMW to mount a rain gauge above the roof on a piece of pipe. Been there a couple of years so should work fine in your slightly damp environment. Thanks for your efforts - unforunately, by the time I convert currency and pay shipping to Canada - it would probably cost me closer to $ 40. ... about what I'll pay for the two 4 foot LED light fixtures. John T. How about I check to see what I have - mabee you buy me that breakfast at Schmitsville and I bring you some HDPE? The breakfast is good - my treat - any time - but don't go to any trouble for the HDPE - - much thanks - but - I found a clearance item at Home Depot today that might work .. $ 5. worth of maybe .. https://www.homedepot.ca/product/gat...der/1001238739 John T. |
HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 13:14:23 -0800 (PST), whit3rd
wrote: On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 12:32:25 PM UTC-8, wrote: I want to place two 4 foot LED slim lights in my long narrow cold room ... Treated wood might be my final solution - but I thought I'd pick your brains first. A wood bracket painted with exterior stain ought to last decades indoors. Yep - I'm probably being too fussy .. .... just thought there might be a perfect cheap alternative .. John T. |
HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 22:39:14 -0500, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 16:51:49 -0500, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 10:23:33 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 09:57:59 -0500, ads wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 15:35:49 -0500, wrote: I want to place two 4 foot LED slim lights in my long narrow cold room - top corner, 1 per side, staggered - - a couple "plastic" 45 degree mounting blocks for each light would allow them to be angled out from the top corner and provide a bit of a thermal / moisture break from the concrete. I'm trying to avoid wood - the cold room can get pretty damp at times and I don't want to promote mold/mildew. I'm thinking a piece 4 " square x 1.5 " thick would be cut in half diagonally to make 2 mounts. Buying thick HDPE or phenolic is a bit pricy for this job - any suggestions for a similar - but cheaper - product ? Even re-purposing a common cheap item ... ? Treated wood might be my final solution - but I thought I'd pick your brains first. John T. On Ebay block of UHMW 8" x 2.25" x 2.25" $22.56 (inludes shipping) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Powernail-L...item420bfcf459 block of UHMW 5" x 3" x 1" $6.95 (inludes shipping) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-UHMW-...S/282617591170 I used a piece of maybe 1/2" thick UHMW to mount a rain gauge above the roof on a piece of pipe. Been there a couple of years so should work fine in your slightly damp environment. Thanks for your efforts - unforunately, by the time I convert currency and pay shipping to Canada - it would probably cost me closer to $ 40. ... about what I'll pay for the two 4 foot LED light fixtures. John T. How about I check to see what I have - mabee you buy me that breakfast at Schmitsville and I bring you some HDPE? The breakfast is good - my treat - any time - but don't go to any trouble for the HDPE - - much thanks - but - I found a clearance item at Home Depot today that might work .. $ 5. worth of maybe .. https://www.homedepot.ca/product/gat...der/1001238739 John T. They look pertty tiny - - - |
HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
I want to place two 4 foot LED slim lights in my long narrow cold room - top corner, 1 per side, staggered - - a couple "plastic" 45 degree mounting blocks for each light would allow them to be angled out from the top corner and provide a bit of a thermal / moisture break from the concrete. I'm trying to avoid wood - the cold room can get pretty damp at times and I don't want to promote mold/mildew. I'm thinking a piece 4 " square x 1.5 " thick would be cut in half diagonally to make 2 mounts. Buying thick HDPE or phenolic is a bit pricy for this job - any suggestions for a similar - but cheaper - product ? Even re-purposing a common cheap item ... ? Treated wood might be my final solution - but I thought I'd pick your brains first. John T. On Ebay block of UHMW 8" x 2.25" x 2.25" $22.56 (inludes shipping) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Powernail-L...item420bfcf459 block of UHMW 5" x 3" x 1" $6.95 (inludes shipping) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-UHMW-...S/282617591170 I used a piece of maybe 1/2" thick UHMW to mount a rain gauge above the roof on a piece of pipe. Been there a couple of years so should work fine in your slightly damp environment. Thanks for your efforts - unforunately, by the time I convert currency and pay shipping to Canada - it would probably cost me closer to $ 40. ... about what I'll pay for the two 4 foot LED light fixtures. John T. How about I check to see what I have - mabee you buy me that breakfast at Schmitsville and I bring you some HDPE? The breakfast is good - my treat - any time - but don't go to any trouble for the HDPE - - much thanks - but - I found a clearance item at Home Depot today that might work .. $ 5. worth of maybe .. https://www.homedepot.ca/product/gat...der/1001238739 John T. The $ 5. scrounge from HD worked fine - cut 4 blocks out of it and had enough for a spare. Mounted just the one light fixture using 2 blocks after testing the light in the cold room - and finding that a single 4 ft. fixture provided plenty enough light. https://imgur.com/a/D6Z6ppu John T. |
HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 14:36:09 -0500, wrote:
I want to place two 4 foot LED slim lights in my long narrow cold room - top corner, 1 per side, staggered - - a couple "plastic" 45 degree mounting blocks for each light would allow them to be angled out from the top corner and provide a bit of a thermal / moisture break from the concrete. I'm trying to avoid wood - the cold room can get pretty damp at times and I don't want to promote mold/mildew. I'm thinking a piece 4 " square x 1.5 " thick would be cut in half diagonally to make 2 mounts. Buying thick HDPE or phenolic is a bit pricy for this job - any suggestions for a similar - but cheaper - product ? Even re-purposing a common cheap item ... ? Treated wood might be my final solution - but I thought I'd pick your brains first. John T. On Ebay block of UHMW 8" x 2.25" x 2.25" $22.56 (inludes shipping) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Powernail-L...item420bfcf459 block of UHMW 5" x 3" x 1" $6.95 (inludes shipping) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-UHMW-...S/282617591170 I used a piece of maybe 1/2" thick UHMW to mount a rain gauge above the roof on a piece of pipe. Been there a couple of years so should work fine in your slightly damp environment. Thanks for your efforts - unforunately, by the time I convert currency and pay shipping to Canada - it would probably cost me closer to $ 40. ... about what I'll pay for the two 4 foot LED light fixtures. John T. How about I check to see what I have - mabee you buy me that breakfast at Schmitsville and I bring you some HDPE? The breakfast is good - my treat - any time - but don't go to any trouble for the HDPE - - much thanks - but - I found a clearance item at Home Depot today that might work .. $ 5. worth of maybe .. https://www.homedepot.ca/product/gat...der/1001238739 John T. The $ 5. scrounge from HD worked fine - cut 4 blocks out of it and had enough for a spare. Mounted just the one light fixture using 2 blocks after testing the light in the cold room - and finding that a single 4 ft. fixture provided plenty enough light. https://imgur.com/a/D6Z6ppu John T. How's the RFI problem? Next time you come in to Lee Valley Waterloo) let me know and we'll meet over a coffee/hot chocolate. I'm about half a mile away |
HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
How's the RFI problem? Next time you come in to Lee Valley Waterloo) let me know and we'll meet over a coffee/hot chocolate. I'm about half a mile away No radio interference, from the basement. I literally just got back from LV returning the un-needed light. Hope to meet you in person sometime. John T. |
HDPE / phenolic cheap substitute
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