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On 1/2/2019 3:56 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 1/2/19 3:03 PM, Leon wrote:
On 1/2/2019 2:15 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 1/2/19 1:10 PM, dpb wrote:
On 1/2/2019 12:24 PM, Leon wrote:
...

The back rail is only to support the extension table that the fence
will rest on.

The back rail has absolutely no function to support the wings on a
PM 66; they're precision-milled castings bolted to the main table...

When mine was manufactured (still in McMinnville, TN), they were
still being surface-ground at the factory in place before being
removed again for shipping...they quit that later to control some of
the costs, but they're still milled flat w/ square, true edges to
mate the main table casting.

I don't know what they're now shipping for fence options; the
"classic" 66 had just a couple of 5/16" bolts with a formed nylon
washer to fit the round shape that bolted through oversized holes on
the table to let it be (the rail) adjusted to the table, not to help
support the table wings at all...

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We're not talking about the side extensions.
We're talking out an out-feed table.



Well actually the OP he never mentioned out feed table.* I read
extension table to mean "extension table".* And yes if you add an
extension table, and especially if you add to a 50" rip capacity the
back rail is needed to support and prevent sag of the extension table.


Oops... yeah, I guess he didn't.** Next time I need to read gooder.



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On 1/2/2019 4:56 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
We're not talking about the side extensions.
We're talking out an out-feed table.


Well actually the OP he never mentioned out feed table. I read
extension table to mean "extension table". And yes if you add an
extension table, and especially if you add to a 50" rip capacity the
back rail is needed to support and prevent sag of the extension table.


Oops... yeah, I guess he didn't. Next time I need to read gooder.


I took him to mean out feed table as well. Extension wings could also
be what he meant. At any rate, IF he meant out feed table then there is
no need to butt the table to the saw. In fact a bit of space is
desirable to allow fingers under the wood to easily lift wood from the
table.

If he meant extension wings, then the back rail should have not
interfere with butting a table to the saw. It might be needed as Leon
explained but should in no way interfere with the task.
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On 1/3/2019 7:29 AM, Jack wrote:
On 1/2/2019 4:56 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
We're not talking about the side extensions.
We're talking out an out-feed table.


Well actually the OP he never mentioned out feed table.* I read
extension table to mean "extension table".* And yes if you add an
extension table, and especially if you add to a 50" rip capacity the
back rail is needed to support and prevent sag of the extension table.


Oops... yeah, I guess he didn't.** Next time I need to read gooder.


I took him to mean out feed table as well.* Extension wings could also
be what he meant.* At any rate, IF he meant out feed table then there is
no need to butt the table to the saw. In fact a bit of space is
desirable to allow fingers under the wood to easily lift wood from the
table.

If he meant extension wings, then the back rail should have not
interfere with butting a table to the saw.* It might be needed as Leon
explained but should in no way interfere with the task.


Actually the support bar on the back side might ease attachment to the
back of the saw for the out feed, if that was what he meant.
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Thanks for the input. I have a right wing side extension now and a table. My wing extension table is supported with a steel frame tied to the saw, so a back fence rail isn’t needed to support the wing extension.

I currently have an old (1st generation) Excalibur Fence with 50” rip. I am asking about the back rail because I want to build an outfeed table with a dust collection system underneath. I would like to build the outfeed table so it can be butted flush to the saw table with no gap. To do this I will need to change my current fence which isn’t great (because it has the old c channel rails). It seems to me from looking online that an accufence doesn’t really need a back rail to function. I was hoping to hear from anyone using an Accufence, Jet Exacta, or Beys w/o a back rail. Sorry for the confusion.
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On 1/3/2019 1:19 PM, Leon wrote:
On 1/3/2019 7:29 AM, Jack wrote:
On 1/2/2019 4:56 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
We're not talking about the side extensions.
We're talking out an out-feed table.


Well actually the OP he never mentioned out feed table. I read
extension table to mean "extension table". And yes if you add an
extension table, and especially if you add to a 50" rip capacity the
back rail is needed to support and prevent sag of the extension table.

Oops... yeah, I guess he didn't. Next time I need to read gooder.


I took him to mean out feed table as well. Extension wings could also
be what he meant. At any rate, IF he meant out feed table then there
is no need to butt the table to the saw. In fact a bit of space is
desirable to allow fingers under the wood to easily lift wood from the
table.

If he meant extension wings, then the back rail should have not
interfere with butting a table to the saw. It might be needed as Leon
explained but should in no way interfere with the task.


Actually the support bar on the back side might ease attachment to the
back of the saw for the out feed, if that was what he meant.


Yes, that's how I use mine. Bonus is t leaves just enough space for my
fingers to get under a piece of wood I just cut. I also have a cabinet
on wheels that butts up that table.

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