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Bill Leonhardt[_2_] May 3rd 18 04:35 PM

Wire wheel arbor stand
 
One of the most valuable tools in my shop, is an arbor with a wire wheel on one side and a coarse grind stone on the other. (sorry, but I am trying to explain this without pictures).

Currently, the arbor is mounted at the end of an old workbench and is driven by an even older refrigerator motor. Extremely handy for cleaning off rust, screw threads, etc.

To save room, I need to get rid of this old workbench and remount the arbor/motor on a "stand alone" stand, as small as reasonable. This seems straight forward, but, I suspect there are many clever approaches to doing this.

I am asking the group if they could please point me to pictures/images of motor/arbor setups like this that I can use for inspiration.

Thanks, Bill

PS, I actually have two arbors and would consider a set up where each could run with their own motor or share a single motor.

Electric Comet May 3rd 18 04:53 PM

Wire wheel arbor stand
 
On Thu, 3 May 2018 08:35:42 -0700 (PDT)
Bill Leonhardt wrote:

To save room, I need to get rid of this old workbench and remount the
arbor/motor on a "stand alone" stand, as small as reasonable. This
seems straight forward, but, I suspect there are many clever
approaches to doing this.


there are some nice dual purpose stand alones out there

the top flips so one top has a grinder and wire wheel and the
other has fine and finer wheels for knives and gouges








Sonny May 3rd 18 06:24 PM

Wire wheel arbor stand
 
As I did long ago, mount the motor and grinder on a board, which is attached to the wall, at a convenient height.... outlet next to the tool, as well.

My grinder setup was just plugged into the adjacent outlet, i.e., no on-off switch. A small shelf below the wheels to rest any item being worked.

I think I use to have a pic of it.... I'll look for it. I had made a similar setup for my sister, never delivered (not sure why).... I think I have that setup in the shop. If so, I'll take pics, might mock mount it to the wall to show that aspect.

Same concept as this:
http://www.delorie.com/wood/abpw/121460-1.jpg

Sonny

Spalted Walt May 3rd 18 06:50 PM

Wire wheel arbor stand
 
Bill Leonhardt wrote:

One of the most valuable tools in my shop, is an arbor with a wire wheel on one side and a coarse grind stone on the other. (sorry, but I am trying to explain this without pictures).

Currently, the arbor is mounted at the end of an old workbench and is driven by an even older refrigerator motor. Extremely handy for cleaning off rust, screw threads, etc.

To save room, I need to get rid of this old workbench and remount the arbor/motor on a "stand alone" stand, as small as reasonable. This seems straight forward, but, I suspect there are many clever approaches to doing this.

I am asking the group if they could please point me to pictures/images of motor/arbor setups like this that I can use for inspiration.

Thanks, Bill

PS, I actually have two arbors and would consider a set up where each could run with their own motor or share a single motor.


https://www.harborfreight.com/univer...tand-3184.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/heavy-...tal-68321.html


[email protected] May 3rd 18 09:51 PM

Wire wheel arbor stand
 
On Thu, 03 May 2018 17:50:42 +0000, Spalted Walt
wrote:

Bill Leonhardt wrote:

One of the most valuable tools in my shop, is an arbor with a wire wheel
on one side and a coarse grind stone on the other.
Currently, the arbor is mounted at the end of an old workbench
and is driven by an even older refrigerator motor.
Extremely handy for cleaning off rust, screw threads, etc.
To save room, I need to get rid of this old workbench and remount
the arbor/motor on a "stand alone" stand, as small as reasonable.
I am asking the group if they could please point me to pictures/images
of motor/arbor setups like this that I can use for inspiration.
Thanks, Bill
PS, I actually have two arbors and would consider a set up where
each could run with their own motor or share a single motor.



https://www.harborfreight.com/univer...tand-3184.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/heavy-...tal-68321.html



Yep - jury-rig one of these stands to suit your needs -
- reinforce as necessary.
The home-made grinder stands that I've seen at farm auctions
tend to be very heavy-built - not sure why ?
.... except that's what farmers do .. :-)
I don't like the idea of a wall-mount set-up .. as someone
suggested - not sure why - just seems wrong.
I would think that moving it outside for certain jobs
would be a good idea ..
John T.


Spalted Walt May 3rd 18 11:53 PM

Wire wheel arbor stand
 
Spalted Walt wrote:

Bill Leonhardt wrote:

One of the most valuable tools in my shop, is an arbor with a wire wheel on one side and a coarse grind stone on the other. (sorry, but I am trying to explain this without pictures).

Currently, the arbor is mounted at the end of an old workbench and is driven by an even older refrigerator motor. Extremely handy for cleaning off rust, screw threads, etc.

To save room, I need to get rid of this old workbench and remount the arbor/motor on a "stand alone" stand, as small as reasonable. This seems straight forward, but, I suspect there are many clever approaches to doing this.

I am asking the group if they could please point me to pictures/images of motor/arbor setups like this that I can use for inspiration.

Thanks, Bill

PS, I actually have two arbors and would consider a set up where each could run with their own motor or share a single motor.


https://www.harborfreight.com/univer...tand-3184.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/heavy-...tal-68321.html


If a larger platform is needed you might consider one of these:

https://www.harborfreight.com/univer...and-69805.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/29-inc...and-95128.html

http://www.hfqpdb.com/coupons/25_per...52740.9946.jpg

http://www.hfqpdb.com/coupons/20_per...02191.9807.jpg

[email protected] May 4th 18 03:37 AM

Wire wheel arbor stand
 
On Thu, 03 May 2018 22:53:26 +0000, Spalted Walt
wrote:

Spalted Walt wrote:

Bill Leonhardt wrote:

One of the most valuable tools in my shop, is an arbor with a wire wheel on one side and a coarse grind stone on the other. (sorry, but I am trying to explain this without pictures).

Currently, the arbor is mounted at the end of an old workbench and is driven by an even older refrigerator motor. Extremely handy for cleaning off rust, screw threads, etc.

To save room, I need to get rid of this old workbench and remount the arbor/motor on a "stand alone" stand, as small as reasonable. This seems straight forward, but, I suspect there are many clever approaches to doing this.

I am asking the group if they could please point me to pictures/images of motor/arbor setups like this that I can use for inspiration.

Thanks, Bill

PS, I actually have two arbors and would consider a set up where each could run with their own motor or share a single motor.


https://www.harborfreight.com/univer...tand-3184.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/heavy-...tal-68321.html


If a larger platform is needed you might consider one of these:

https://www.harborfreight.com/univer...and-69805.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/29-inc...and-95128.html


https://www.harborfreight.com/heavy-duty-bench-grinder-pedestal-68321.html

Spalted Walt May 4th 18 04:30 AM

Wire wheel arbor stand
 
wrote:

PS, I actually have two arbors and would consider a set up where each could run with their own motor or share a single motor.


https://www.harborfreight.com/univer...tand-3184.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/heavy-...tal-68321.html ---------

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If a larger platform is needed you might consider one of these:

https://www.harborfreight.com/univer...and-69805.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/29-inc...and-95128.html


https://www.harborfreight.com/heavy-duty-bench-grinder-pedestal-68321.html


Bill Leonhardt[_2_] May 6th 18 03:35 PM

Wire wheel arbor stand
 
Thanks for the responses to my post. I had considered the HF stands, but thought them too inefficient from a storage space point of view.

I am intrigued with the mounting that Sonny did, although I have to confess that I had to stare at it for a while before I understood what I was seeing. If I go this way, I'll hang the motor (hinged) down to give belt tension.

Thanks again.


On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 11:35:45 AM UTC-4, Bill Leonhardt wrote:
One of the most valuable tools in my shop, is an arbor with a wire wheel on one side and a coarse grind stone on the other. (sorry, but I am trying to explain this without pictures).

Currently, the arbor is mounted at the end of an old workbench and is driven by an even older refrigerator motor. Extremely handy for cleaning off rust, screw threads, etc.

To save room, I need to get rid of this old workbench and remount the arbor/motor on a "stand alone" stand, as small as reasonable. This seems straight forward, but, I suspect there are many clever approaches to doing this.

I am asking the group if they could please point me to pictures/images of motor/arbor setups like this that I can use for inspiration.

Thanks, Bill

PS, I actually have two arbors and would consider a set up where each could run with their own motor or share a single motor.



Sonny May 6th 18 05:27 PM

Wire wheel arbor stand
 
On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 9:35:48 AM UTC-5, Bill Leonhardt wrote:

I am intrigued with the mounting that Sonny did,


That wasn't my doing. The pic was posted on abpw and I just copied and pasted the link. I did make and use one, though, but not with a drill/motor drive. I can't find the one I made for my sister.

Sonny

DerbyDad03 May 7th 18 02:58 AM

Wire wheel arbor stand
 
On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 10:35:48 AM UTC-4, Bill Leonhardt wrote:
Thanks for the responses to my post. I had considered the HF stands, but thought them too inefficient from a storage space point of view.

I am intrigued with the mounting that Sonny did, although I have to confess that I had to stare at it for a while before I understood what I was seeing. If I go this way, I'll hang the motor (hinged) down to give belt tension.



Have you considered this set-up?

https://cdn1.tmbi.com/TFH/Step-By-St..._WSSTOR_09.jpg

Bill Leonhardt[_2_] May 7th 18 12:21 PM

Wire wheel arbor stand
 
I haven't considered it before but I will now. A little more complex for me as the motor and arbor are separate, but they can be mounted on a common plate. I'd have to get creative with the belt tension. Perhaps a spring.

Thanks.


On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 11:35:45 AM UTC-4, Bill Leonhardt wrote:
One of the most valuable tools in my shop, is an arbor with a wire wheel on one side and a coarse grind stone on the other. (sorry, but I am trying to explain this without pictures).

Currently, the arbor is mounted at the end of an old workbench and is driven by an even older refrigerator motor. Extremely handy for cleaning off rust, screw threads, etc.

To save room, I need to get rid of this old workbench and remount the arbor/motor on a "stand alone" stand, as small as reasonable. This seems straight forward, but, I suspect there are many clever approaches to doing this.

I am asking the group if they could please point me to pictures/images of motor/arbor setups like this that I can use for inspiration.

Thanks, Bill

PS, I actually have two arbors and would consider a set up where each could run with their own motor or share a single motor.



DerbyDad03 May 7th 18 04:03 PM

Wire wheel arbor stand
 
On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 7:21:52 AM UTC-4, Bill Leonhardt wrote:
I haven't considered it before but I will now. A little more complex for me as the motor and arbor are separate, but they can be mounted on a common plate. I'd have to get creative with the belt tension. Perhaps a spring.

Thanks.


On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 11:35:45 AM UTC-4, Bill Leonhardt wrote:
One of the most valuable tools in my shop, is an arbor with a wire wheel on one side and a coarse grind stone on the other. (sorry, but I am trying to explain this without pictures).

Currently, the arbor is mounted at the end of an old workbench and is driven by an even older refrigerator motor. Extremely handy for cleaning off rust, screw threads, etc.

To save room, I need to get rid of this old workbench and remount the arbor/motor on a "stand alone" stand, as small as reasonable. This seems straight forward, but, I suspect there are many clever approaches to doing this.

I am asking the group if they could please point me to pictures/images of motor/arbor setups like this that I can use for inspiration.

Thanks, Bill

PS, I actually have two arbors and would consider a set up where each could run with their own motor or share a single motor.


Bill, the way that you respond makes it difficult to figure out who you are responding to. I am
seeing top-post responses to your original message, not bottom-posted responses to a specific
post, which would include the text and name of person that you are responding to.

That said, I know that' you have a working system already, but have you considered a single
motor, direct drive bench grinder with a wire wheel on one side and a grinder wheel on the
other? That's what I have and it works great. It's also a lot more compact than what you are
currently using. Being direct drive, it's very portable too. I actually keep mine under the
workbench and pull it out when required. In nice weather I'll take it outside and let the mess
go wherever it wants.

Bill Leonhardt[_2_] May 8th 18 12:09 AM

Wire wheel arbor stand
 
On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 11:35:45 AM UTC-4, Bill Leonhardt wrote:
One of the most valuable tools in my shop, is an arbor with a wire wheel on one side and a coarse grind stone on the other. (sorry, but I am trying to explain this without pictures).

Currently, the arbor is mounted at the end of an old workbench and is driven by an even older refrigerator motor. Extremely handy for cleaning off rust, screw threads, etc.

To save room, I need to get rid of this old workbench and remount the arbor/motor on a "stand alone" stand, as small as reasonable. This seems straight forward, but, I suspect there are many clever approaches to doing this..

I am asking the group if they could please point me to pictures/images of motor/arbor setups like this that I can use for inspiration.

Thanks, Bill

PS, I actually have two arbors and would consider a set up where each could run with their own motor or share a single motor.


DerbyDad03,

Sorry for my confusing response. I'm never sure whether to top post or bottom post. I know it was important to some in this group, but whenever I think I have it straight, I go through several senior moments and forget.

Yes the single grinder motor with grind wheel and wire wheel makes sense. It is a lot more portable and space efficient. For me though, I have two of these arbors and several motors I have collected over the years. I am old enough now to either use these motors or throw them out since I have more projects and ideas than time left in my life (or at least I think that's true).

Since I have two arbors, I thought I'd rig one up with one or two buffing wheels. I've never had that before and it could be handy.

Regarding my use of the wire wheel, over the many, many years I have had a shop, the wire wheel has brought life back to many rusted objects. Having it on the arbor (I believe) allows me to get the wire wheel into more corners, etc.that I could with the close-in mounting on the grinder motor.

Still, my fantasy is that the "perfect" set-up (as I imagine it) exists with someone in the REC and he or she will say: "Oh yeah, I mounted one years ago. Here's a pic."

All the suggestions people have posted are good (and appreciated). I think I probably didn't explain exactly what I was after.

My current thinking is to have the arbor out on a horizontal 2 x 4, with the motor hung far beneath. That way I could get the wire wheel into nooks and crannies of good size objects (maximum access).

It occurs to me that readers may not know what I mean by an arbor. I found one on Google Images:

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...or-belt-driven

Thanks every one for your interest and patience with my posting.

Bill

DerbyDad03 May 8th 18 04:45 AM

Wire wheel arbor stand
 
On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 7:10:01 PM UTC-4, Bill Leonhardt wrote:
On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 11:35:45 AM UTC-4, Bill Leonhardt wrote:
One of the most valuable tools in my shop, is an arbor with a wire wheel on one side and a coarse grind stone on the other. (sorry, but I am trying to explain this without pictures).

Currently, the arbor is mounted at the end of an old workbench and is driven by an even older refrigerator motor. Extremely handy for cleaning off rust, screw threads, etc.

To save room, I need to get rid of this old workbench and remount the arbor/motor on a "stand alone" stand, as small as reasonable. This seems straight forward, but, I suspect there are many clever approaches to doing this.

I am asking the group if they could please point me to pictures/images of motor/arbor setups like this that I can use for inspiration.

Thanks, Bill

PS, I actually have two arbors and would consider a set up where each could run with their own motor or share a single motor.


DerbyDad03,

Sorry for my confusing response. I'm never sure whether to top post or bottom post. I know it was important to some in this group, but whenever I think I have it straight, I go through several senior moments and forget.

Yes the single grinder motor with grind wheel and wire wheel makes sense. It is a lot more portable and space efficient. For me though, I have two of these arbors and several motors I have collected over the years. I am old enough now to either use these motors or throw them out since I have more projects and ideas than time left in my life (or at least I think that's true).

Since I have two arbors, I thought I'd rig one up with one or two buffing wheels. I've never had that before and it could be handy.

Regarding my use of the wire wheel, over the many, many years I have had a shop, the wire wheel has brought life back to many rusted objects. Having it on the arbor (I believe) allows me to get the wire wheel into more corners, etc.that I could with the close-in mounting on the grinder motor.

Still, my fantasy is that the "perfect" set-up (as I imagine it) exists with someone in the REC and he or she will say: "Oh yeah, I mounted one years ago. Here's a pic."

All the suggestions people have posted are good (and appreciated). I think I probably didn't explain exactly what I was after.

My current thinking is to have the arbor out on a horizontal 2 x 4, with the motor hung far beneath. That way I could get the wire wheel into nooks and crannies of good size objects (maximum access).

It occurs to me that readers may not know what I mean by an arbor. I found one on Google Images:

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...or-belt-driven

Thanks every one for your interest and patience with my posting.

Bill


Bill,

Thank you for all that information. I understand that a "standalone" wire
wheel allows for more access. I've run into the very problem you describe
with my bench grinder set-up. Yours is definitely better in that regard.

As far as your posting style, it's not really about the top-posting vs.
bottom-posting, although most here use bottom. The real issue is that I
(we?) are not seeing the post that you are responding to. Every one of your
posts (at least for me) looks like a response to your original May 3rd
post. That is the only text that gets quoted in your responses.

For example, when you responded to my "Have you considered this set-up?"
post, none of the text from *my* post (my question and the link) was
included in the response, so there was no reference for "I haven't
considered it before but I will now". Anyone coming along later would have
trouble figuring out what "it" is. I don't know what method you use to
access this group or what you do to respond, but as I said, all of your
responses look as if you are responding to your own original post.

Bill Leonhardt[_2_] May 8th 18 02:26 PM

Wire wheel arbor stand
 
On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 11:45:49 PM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 7:10:01 PM UTC-4, Bill Leonhardt wrote:
On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 11:35:45 AM UTC-4, Bill Leonhardt wrote:
One of the most valuable tools in my shop, is an arbor with a wire wheel on one side and a coarse grind stone on the other. (sorry, but I am trying to explain this without pictures).

Currently, the arbor is mounted at the end of an old workbench and is driven by an even older refrigerator motor. Extremely handy for cleaning off rust, screw threads, etc.

To save room, I need to get rid of this old workbench and remount the arbor/motor on a "stand alone" stand, as small as reasonable. This seems straight forward, but, I suspect there are many clever approaches to doing this.

I am asking the group if they could please point me to pictures/images of motor/arbor setups like this that I can use for inspiration.

Thanks, Bill

PS, I actually have two arbors and would consider a set up where each could run with their own motor or share a single motor.


DerbyDad03,

Sorry for my confusing response. I'm never sure whether to top post or bottom post. I know it was important to some in this group, but whenever I think I have it straight, I go through several senior moments and forget.

Yes the single grinder motor with grind wheel and wire wheel makes sense. It is a lot more portable and space efficient. For me though, I have two of these arbors and several motors I have collected over the years. I am old enough now to either use these motors or throw them out since I have more projects and ideas than time left in my life (or at least I think that's true).

Since I have two arbors, I thought I'd rig one up with one or two buffing wheels. I've never had that before and it could be handy.

Regarding my use of the wire wheel, over the many, many years I have had a shop, the wire wheel has brought life back to many rusted objects. Having it on the arbor (I believe) allows me to get the wire wheel into more corners, etc.that I could with the close-in mounting on the grinder motor.

Still, my fantasy is that the "perfect" set-up (as I imagine it) exists with someone in the REC and he or she will say: "Oh yeah, I mounted one years ago. Here's a pic."

All the suggestions people have posted are good (and appreciated). I think I probably didn't explain exactly what I was after.

My current thinking is to have the arbor out on a horizontal 2 x 4, with the motor hung far beneath. That way I could get the wire wheel into nooks and crannies of good size objects (maximum access).

It occurs to me that readers may not know what I mean by an arbor. I found one on Google Images:

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...or-belt-driven

Thanks every one for your interest and patience with my posting.

Bill


Bill,

Thank you for all that information. I understand that a "standalone" wire
wheel allows for more access. I've run into the very problem you describe
with my bench grinder set-up. Yours is definitely better in that regard.

As far as your posting style, it's not really about the top-posting vs.
bottom-posting, although most here use bottom. The real issue is that I
(we?) are not seeing the post that you are responding to. Every one of your
posts (at least for me) looks like a response to your original May 3rd
post. That is the only text that gets quoted in your responses.

For example, when you responded to my "Have you considered this set-up?"
post, none of the text from *my* post (my question and the link) was
included in the response, so there was no reference for "I haven't
considered it before but I will now". Anyone coming along later would have
trouble figuring out what "it" is. I don't know what method you use to
access this group or what you do to respond, but as I said, all of your
responses look as if you are responding to your own original post.


DerbyDad03

I see the problem. Of course what you say makes sense to me. My replies to other posts make no sense if the quoted text isn't there. I use GoogleGroups in Chrome and I was mistakenly responding by clicking the BIG RED "Post Reply" button on the top of the screen instead of using the little black arrow all the way over on the right.

I'm sorry for all the confusion. I get a lot of great info from this group..

Hopefully this response has your text quoted. Thanks for taking the time to carefully and respectfully set me straight. I genuinely appreciate it.

Bill

DerbyDad03 May 8th 18 07:00 PM

Wire wheel arbor stand
 
On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 9:26:16 AM UTC-4, Bill Leonhardt wrote:
On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 11:45:49 PM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 7:10:01 PM UTC-4, Bill Leonhardt wrote:
On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 11:35:45 AM UTC-4, Bill Leonhardt wrote:
One of the most valuable tools in my shop, is an arbor with a wire wheel on one side and a coarse grind stone on the other. (sorry, but I am trying to explain this without pictures).

Currently, the arbor is mounted at the end of an old workbench and is driven by an even older refrigerator motor. Extremely handy for cleaning off rust, screw threads, etc.

To save room, I need to get rid of this old workbench and remount the arbor/motor on a "stand alone" stand, as small as reasonable. This seems straight forward, but, I suspect there are many clever approaches to doing this.

I am asking the group if they could please point me to pictures/images of motor/arbor setups like this that I can use for inspiration.

Thanks, Bill

PS, I actually have two arbors and would consider a set up where each could run with their own motor or share a single motor.

DerbyDad03,

Sorry for my confusing response. I'm never sure whether to top post or bottom post. I know it was important to some in this group, but whenever I think I have it straight, I go through several senior moments and forget.



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