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Yes, that is my quandary. I have a stack of pallets, and some rather nice (for some values of nice) boards in some of them. Hardwood, I think "oak" - but I do not know. One thing I do know, when I saw them loose, the wood gives off a pungent smell, similar to that of strong vinegar. (I hope it is the wood, and not the saw blade.) This is more for my Fund of General Knowledge than a necessity. I've used "pallet board" like this before to make so rather fine (IMOSHO) small wooden boxes and the like. tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich Just because they're invisible doesn't mean they are your friends. |
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On 2/11/18 7:14 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Yes, that is my quandary. I have a stack of pallets, and some rather nice (for some values of nice) boards in some of them. Hardwood, I think "oak" - but I do not know. One thing I do know, when I saw them loose, the wood gives off a pungent smell, similar to that of strong vinegar. (I hope it is the wood, and not the saw blade.) There are at least half a dozen woods I can identify by their smell when being cut. Oak, walnut, bubinga, cedar (duh!), hickory, purpleheart, white pine, probably more if I think about it. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- www.mikedrums.com |
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Yes, that is my quandary. I have a stack of pallets, and some rather nice (for some values of nice) boards in some of them. Hardwood, I think "oak" - but I do not know. One thing I do know, when I saw them loose, the wood gives off a pungent smell, similar to that of strong vinegar. (I hope it is the wood, and not the saw blade.) There are at least half a dozen woods I can identify by their smell when being cut. Oak, walnut, bubinga, cedar (duh!), hickory, purpleheart, white pine, probably more if I think about it. https://www.1001pallets.com/pallet-safety/ Some pallets are used once and discarded. Some pallets are treated, used and re-used .. .. for who-knows-what .. Finder beware .. John T. |
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On 2/11/2018 7:24 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 2/11/18 7:14 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote: Yes, that is my quandary.Â*Â* I have a stack of pallets, and some rather nice (for some values of nice) boards in some of them. Hardwood, I think "oak" - but I do not know.Â* One thing I do know, when I saw them loose, the wood gives off a pungent smell, similar to that of strong vinegar.Â* (I hope it is the wood, and not the saw blade.) There are at least half a dozen woods I can identify by their smell when being cut. Oak, walnut, bubinga, cedar (duh!), hickory, purpleheart, white pine, probably more if I think about it. Not to mention the nasties that may have soaked into the wood from the chemicals that may have spilled onto them. |
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-MIKE- on Sun, 11 Feb 2018 19:24:38 -0600
typed in rec.woodworking the following: On 2/11/18 7:14 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote: Yes, that is my quandary. I have a stack of pallets, and some rather nice (for some values of nice) boards in some of them. Hardwood, I think "oak" - but I do not know. One thing I do know, when I saw them loose, the wood gives off a pungent smell, similar to that of strong vinegar. (I hope it is the wood, and not the saw blade.) There are at least half a dozen woods I can identify by their smell when being cut. Oak, walnut, bubinga, cedar (duh!), hickory, purpleheart, white pine, probably more if I think about it. Yeah, I can tell pine from "not pine" But which one smells like vinegar? -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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pyotr filipivich wrote:
-MIKE- on Sun, 11 Feb 2018 19:24:38 -0600 typed in rec.woodworking the following: On 2/11/18 7:14 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote: Yes, that is my quandary. I have a stack of pallets, and some rather nice (for some values of nice) boards in some of them. Hardwood, I think "oak" - but I do not know. One thing I do know, when I saw them loose, the wood gives off a pungent smell, similar to that of strong vinegar. (I hope it is the wood, and not the saw blade.) There are at least half a dozen woods I can identify by their smell when being cut. Oak, walnut, bubinga, cedar (duh!), hickory, purpleheart, white pine, probably more if I think about it. Yeah, I can tell pine from "not pine" But which one smells like vinegar? Could be oak or arsenic. Pallets get drug along trailer floors that have had who knows what spilled on them. |
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On 2/11/18 9:15 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
-MIKE- on Sun, 11 Feb 2018 19:24:38 -0600 typed in rec.woodworking the following: On 2/11/18 7:14 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote: Yes, that is my quandary. I have a stack of pallets, and some rather nice (for some values of nice) boards in some of them. Hardwood, I think "oak" - but I do not know. One thing I do know, when I saw them loose, the wood gives off a pungent smell, similar to that of strong vinegar. (I hope it is the wood, and not the saw blade.) There are at least half a dozen woods I can identify by their smell when being cut. Oak, walnut, bubinga, cedar (duh!), hickory, purpleheart, white pine, probably more if I think about it. Yeah, I can tell pine from "not pine" But which one smells like vinegar? Probably the ones that held the crate of vinegar that sprang a leak. :-D -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- www.mikedrums.com |
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Yes, that is my quandary. I have a stack of pallets, and some rather nice (for some values of nice) boards in some of them. Hardwood, I think "oak" - but I do not know. One thing I do know, when I saw them loose, the wood gives off a pungent smell, similar to that of strong vinegar. (I hope it is the wood, and not the saw blade.) There are at least half a dozen woods I can identify by their smell when being cut. Oak, walnut, bubinga, cedar (duh!), hickory, purpleheart, white pine, probably more if I think about it. Yeah, I can tell pine from "not pine" But which one smells like vinegar? the really bad poisonous one .. ... or maybe not. it might be the other one ? .. Who really knows ? .. when it comes down to it. .. hope this helps.. |
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"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
... Yes, that is my quandary. I have a stack of pallets, and some rather nice (for some values of nice) boards in some of them. Hardwood, I think "oak" - but I do not know. One thing I do know, when I saw them loose, the wood gives off a pungent smell, similar to that of strong vinegar. (I hope it is the wood, and not the saw blade.) This is more for my Fund of General Knowledge than a necessity. I've used "pallet board" like this before to make so rather fine (IMOSHO) small wooden boxes and the like. I recently toured the factory of Community Play Things. Their products are found in schools, day cares, hospitals, and other institutional places where children and babies can be found. While there I found out that they use a wood for their outdoor products that is pickled. Though my memory of the details could be off, as I recall the wood itself is from Austria and the preservation is done in Norway... This not a finish but rather an impregnating process (I believe done under a vacuum like pressure treated wood). When I smelled the wood it had the scent of pickles/vinegar. For pallet wood it might be cost effective compared to heat treated wood... perhaps this is what you have. |
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On 2/11/2018 11:24 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
"pyotr filipivich"Â* wrote in message ... Yes, that is my quandary.Â*Â* I have a stack of pallets, and some rather nice (for some values of nice) boards in some of them. Hardwood, I think "oak" - but I do not know.Â* One thing I do know, when I saw them loose, the wood gives off a pungent smell, similar to that of strong vinegar.Â* (I hope it is the wood, and not the saw blade.) This is more for my Fund of General Knowledge than a necessity. I've used "pallet board" like this before to make so rather fine (IMOSHO) small wooden boxes and the like. I recently toured the factory of Community Play Things. Their products are found in schools, day cares, hospitals, and other institutional places where children and babies can be found.Â* While there I found out that they use a wood for their outdoor products that is pickled. Though my memory of the details could be off, as I recall the wood itself is from Austria and the preservation is done in Norway... This not a finish but rather an impregnating process (I believe done under a vacuum like pressure treated wood). When I smelled the wood it had the scent of pickles/vinegar. For pallet wood it might be cost effective compared to heat treated wood... perhaps this is what you have. I used to receive and ship on pallets, hundreds per week. I never saw a treated pallet as most were not wanted back by the shipper, GM. Only a very few were made out of a decent wood and those were so riddled with nails it was more trouble than it was worth to try and salvage for other uses. |
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"Leon" wrote in message
... On 2/11/2018 11:24 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote: I recently toured the factory of Community Play Things. Their products are found in schools, day cares, hospitals, and other institutional places where children and babies can be found. While there I found out that they use a wood for their outdoor products that is pickled. Though my memory of the details could be off, as I recall the wood itself is from Austria and the preservation is done in Norway... This not a finish but rather an impregnating process (I believe done under a vacuum like pressure treated wood). When I smelled the wood it had the scent of pickles/vinegar. For pallet wood it might be cost effective compared to heat treated wood... perhaps this is what you have. I used to receive and ship on pallets, hundreds per week. I never saw a treated pallet as most were not wanted back by the shipper, GM. Only a very few were made out of a decent wood and those were so riddled with nails it was more trouble than it was worth to try and salvage for other uses. Regarding this tread, I was thinking more along the lines of the requirements for pallets used in international shipments to be treated in some way to prevent invasive pests. The reference to the smell suggested to me it could be a product of this pickling process. The efficacy of reusing pallets or pallet wood is certainly a valid issue... I've only recycled them into kindling or used them on the floor of my lumber shed as any other use would be too great of a time waster... especially with the access I've had to rough cut over the years. Now that I have an Alaskan chainsaw mill even more opportunities present themselves. For example, while removing beaver killed trees from a rail trail last fall I picked up 8 cherry logs. I milled four of them in my back yard over the past couple weekends... My lumber shed is overflowing and I am looking into ways to store and dry more wood... I guarantee you none of it will be pallet wood! LOL |
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On 2/12/2018 11:04 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
"Leon"Â* wrote in message ... On 2/11/2018 11:24 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote: I recently toured the factory of Community Play Things. Their products are found in schools, day cares, hospitals, and other institutional places where children and babies can be found.Â* While there I found out that they use a wood for their outdoor products that is pickled. Though my memory of the details could be off, as I recall the wood itself is from Austria and the preservation is done in Norway... This not a finish but rather an impregnating process (I believe done under a vacuum like pressure treated wood). When I smelled the wood it had the scent of pickles/vinegar. For pallet wood it might be cost effective compared to heat treated wood... perhaps this is what you have. I used to receive and ship on pallets, hundreds per week.Â* I never saw a treated pallet as most were not wanted back by the shipper, GM. Only a very few were made out of a decent wood and those were so riddled with nails it was more trouble than it was worth to try and salvage for other uses. Regarding this tread, I was thinking more along the lines of the requirements for pallets used in international shipments to be treated in some way to prevent invasive pests.Â* The reference to the smell suggested to me it could be a product of this pickling process. Well that may very well be the case. The efficacy of reusing pallets or pallet wood is certainly a valid issue... I've only recycled them into kindling or used them on the floor of my lumber shed as any other use would be too great of a time waster... especially with the access I've had to rough cut over the years. Now that I have an Alaskan chainsaw mill even more opportunities present themselves. For example, while removing beaver killed trees from a rail trail last fall I picked up 8 cherry logs. I milled four of them in my back yard over the past couple weekends... My lumber shed is overflowing and I am looking into ways to store and dry more wood... I guarantee you none of it will be pallet wood! LOL Yeah, those pallets we ended up with, we receive more than we shipped out, we had to pay to get rid of them. So I kept the oak ones to one side and only one time tried to dismantle it. The rest saw my recip saw and the fireplace. |
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Leon on Sun, 11 Feb 2018 21:47:17 -0600 typed in
rec.woodworking the following: pyotr filipivich wrote: -MIKE- on Sun, 11 Feb 2018 19:24:38 -0600 typed in rec.woodworking the following: On 2/11/18 7:14 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote: Yes, that is my quandary. I have a stack of pallets, and some rather nice (for some values of nice) boards in some of them. Hardwood, I think "oak" - but I do not know. One thing I do know, when I saw them loose, the wood gives off a pungent smell, similar to that of strong vinegar. (I hope it is the wood, and not the saw blade.) There are at least half a dozen woods I can identify by their smell when being cut. Oak, walnut, bubinga, cedar (duh!), hickory, purpleheart, white pine, probably more if I think about it. Yeah, I can tell pine from "not pine" But which one smells like vinegar? Could be oak or arsenic. Pallets get drug along trailer floors that have had who knows what spilled on them. And those I tend to pass over. These hardly have the saw marks worn. -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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"John Grossbohlin" on Mon, 12
Feb 2018 00:24:09 -0500 typed in rec.woodworking the following: "pyotr filipivich" wrote in message .. . Yes, that is my quandary. I have a stack of pallets, and some rather nice (for some values of nice) boards in some of them. Hardwood, I think "oak" - but I do not know. One thing I do know, when I saw them loose, the wood gives off a pungent smell, similar to that of strong vinegar. (I hope it is the wood, and not the saw blade.) This is more for my Fund of General Knowledge than a necessity. I've used "pallet board" like this before to make so rather fine (IMOSHO) small wooden boxes and the like. I recently toured the factory of Community Play Things. Their products are found in schools, day cares, hospitals, and other institutional places where children and babies can be found. While there I found out that they use a wood for their outdoor products that is pickled. Though my memory of the details could be off, as I recall the wood itself is from Austria and the preservation is done in Norway... This not a finish but rather an impregnating process (I believe done under a vacuum like pressure treated wood). When I smelled the wood it had the scent of pickles/vinegar. For pallet wood it might be cost effective compared to heat treated wood... perhaps this is what you have. I doubt it. Pallets tend to be made of the cheapest stuff around - at least the grade I'm snagging. The good ones rarely if ever show up outside the fence. Years ago, I learned that there was a grade four lumber - 1 x 12 pine boards, each one guaranteed to have cup, warp, bark, knot holes, or pitch. Or any combination. We used them for shipping 'crates' for countertops - one way. -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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-MIKE- on Sun, 11 Feb 2018 21:49:31 -0600
typed in rec.woodworking the following: On 2/11/18 9:15 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote: -MIKE- on Sun, 11 Feb 2018 19:24:38 -0600 typed in rec.woodworking the following: On 2/11/18 7:14 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote: Yes, that is my quandary. I have a stack of pallets, and some rather nice (for some values of nice) boards in some of them. Hardwood, I think "oak" - but I do not know. One thing I do know, when I saw them loose, the wood gives off a pungent smell, similar to that of strong vinegar. (I hope it is the wood, and not the saw blade.) There are at least half a dozen woods I can identify by their smell when being cut. Oak, walnut, bubinga, cedar (duh!), hickory, purpleheart, white pine, probably more if I think about it. Yeah, I can tell pine from "not pine" But which one smells like vinegar? Probably the ones that held the crate of vinegar that sprang a leak. :-D Hmmm, that's a possibility. These are from a grocery store. OTOH, the last batch were from a hardware store. tschus pyotr PS speaking of vinegar, I learned a few years ago, of a disaster for my great grandfather, and the probable Environmental Catastrophe involved as well. Seems he had a 3000 gallon tank full of apple cider/vinegar rupture. Total loss, and it flooded the creek too. No mention in the article about any fish kills though. -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:14:51 -0800
pyotr filipivich wrote: Yes, that is my quandary. I have a stack of pallets, and some rather nice (for some values of nice) boards in some of them. smell helps but the grain and density is a big help too some are treated with pesticidals some are toxic and some are not mostly see oak and fir but have seen maple no doubt they source locally suitable wood too but i have not seen other than those depends on the industry too some pallets are better than others and some get used once because the cost of the pallet is so small compared to the cargo i have never recovered pallet wood that had bugs or even any signs of bugs but that will not let me make a conclusion because pallets in use are on the go and not much time for bugs to set up anyway you pay more you get treated wood and pay less you get untreated |
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 00:24:09 -0500
"John Grossbohlin" wrote: there I found out that they use a wood for their outdoor products that is pickled. interesting never knew that but it explains a lot took a part a swing and tower set and could not figure out how the wood was treated i think this pickling is the answer it was also kiln dried and after twenty plus years no bugs and no rot just some warpage Though my memory of the details could be off, as I recall the wood itself is from Austria and the preservation is done in Norway... This not a finish but rather an impregnating process (I believe done under a vacuum like pressure treated wood). When I smelled the wood it had the scent of pickles/vinegar. this stuff had an odd smell and maybe it was vinegar For pallet wood it might be cost effective compared to heat treated wood... perhaps this is what you have. that does make sense because they want pallets to be cheap |
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PS speaking of vinegar, I learned a few years ago, of a disaster for my great grandfather, and the probable Environmental Catastrophe involved as well. Seems he had a 3000 gallon tank full of apple cider/vinegar rupture. Total loss, and it flooded the creek too. No mention in the article about any fish kills though. 3 000 gallon [US, liquid] = 11 356. liters = 22,712 500 ml bottles at $ 70 per bottle http://tinyurl.com/ycuaglzc He was a milionaire ! :-) John T. |
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Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet on Mon, 12 Feb 2018 13:56:04 -0600 typed
in rec.woodworking the following: The efficacy of reusing pallets or pallet wood is certainly a valid issue... I've only recycled them into kindling or used them on the floor of my lumber shed as any other use would be too great of a time waster... especially with the access I've had to rough cut over the years. Now that I have an Alaskan chainsaw mill even more opportunities present themselves. For example, while removing beaver killed trees from a rail trail last fall I picked up 8 cherry logs. I milled four of them in my back yard over the past couple weekends... My lumber shed is overflowing and I am looking into ways to store and dry more wood... I guarantee you none of it will be pallet wood! LOL Yeah, those pallets we ended up with, we receive more than we shipped out, we had to pay to get rid of them. So I kept the oak ones to one side and only one time tried to dismantle it. The rest saw my recip saw and the fireplace. If you want a four inch wide by 12 inch or so board, they're perfect. Especially for small boxes. -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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Electric Comet on Mon, 12 Feb 2018
14:10:06 -0800 typed in rec.woodworking the following: On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:14:51 -0800 pyotr filipivich wrote: Yes, that is my quandary. I have a stack of pallets, and some rather nice (for some values of nice) boards in some of them. smell helps but the grain and density is a big help too some are treated with pesticidals some are toxic and some are not mostly see oak and fir but have seen maple no doubt they source locally suitable wood too but i have not seen other than those I have some mahogany boards salvaged off a shipping crate. -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 8:06:15 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet on Mon, 12 Feb 2018 13:56:04 -0600 typed in rec.woodworking the following: The efficacy of reusing pallets or pallet wood is certainly a valid issue... I've only recycled them into kindling or used them on the floor of my lumber shed as any other use would be too great of a time waster... especially with the access I've had to rough cut over the years. Now that I have an Alaskan chainsaw mill even more opportunities present themselves. For example, while removing beaver killed trees from a rail trail last fall I picked up 8 cherry logs. I milled four of them in my back yard over the past couple weekends... My lumber shed is overflowing and I am looking into ways to store and dry more wood... I guarantee you none of it will be pallet wood! LOL Yeah, those pallets we ended up with, we receive more than we shipped out, we had to pay to get rid of them. So I kept the oak ones to one side and only one time tried to dismantle it. The rest saw my recip saw and the fireplace. If you want a four inch wide by 12 inch or so board, they're perfect. Especially for small boxes. Sure, boxes that smell like vinegar. ;-) |
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pyotr filipivich wrote: I have some mahogany boards salvaged off a shipping crate. are they usable i ask because sometimes i see some really knotty and crazy grain in oak and somehow they get nails into without splitting it seems the rarer pallet woods are also often the worst scrap pieces left over from wherever they source the pallet making industry probably has some interesting sourcing techniques urban refuse and the like |
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DerbyDad03 on Mon, 12 Feb 2018 18:41:14 -0800
(PST) typed in rec.woodworking the following: On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 8:06:15 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet on Mon, 12 Feb 2018 13:56:04 -0600 typed in rec.woodworking the following: The efficacy of reusing pallets or pallet wood is certainly a valid issue... I've only recycled them into kindling or used them on the floor of my lumber shed as any other use would be too great of a time waster... especially with the access I've had to rough cut over the years. Now that I have an Alaskan chainsaw mill even more opportunities present themselves. For example, while removing beaver killed trees from a rail trail last fall I picked up 8 cherry logs. I milled four of them in my back yard over the past couple weekends... My lumber shed is overflowing and I am looking into ways to store and dry more wood... I guarantee you none of it will be pallet wood! LOL Yeah, those pallets we ended up with, we receive more than we shipped out, we had to pay to get rid of them. So I kept the oak ones to one side and only one time tried to dismantle it. The rest saw my recip saw and the fireplace. If you want a four inch wide by 12 inch or so board, they're perfect. Especially for small boxes. Sure, boxes that smell like vinegar. ;-) With a tight enough fit, you can use them to store vinegar. -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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Electric Comet on Tue, 13 Feb 2018
08:34:28 -0800 typed in rec.woodworking the following: On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 17:07:21 -0800 pyotr filipivich wrote: I have some mahogany boards salvaged off a shipping crate. are they usable Oh yes. Ripped them on the band saw, and will figure out what to do with them "eventually". i ask because sometimes i see some really knotty and crazy grain in oak and somehow they get nails into without splitting it seems the rarer pallet woods are also often the worst scrap pieces left over from wherever they source the pallet making industry probably has some interesting sourcing techniques Like I said - I wasn't aware of "grade 4" lumber. Cupped, warped, bark, knotholes - it's is sort of a usable board. urban refuse and the like -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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pyotr filipivich wrote: With a tight enough fit, you can use them to store vinegar. wooden boat builders actually use the swelling of the wood due to water to provide the seal have to get it just right though |
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Not to mention the nasties that may have soaked into the wood from the chemicals that may have spilled onto them. [snip] Could be oak or arsenic. Pallets get drug along trailer floors that have had who knows what spilled on them. [snip] Yeah, I can tell pine from "not pine" But which one smells like vinegar? the really bad poisonous one .. .. or maybe not. it might be the other one ? .. Who really knows ? .. when it comes down to it. .. hope this helps.. OMG! All the hand wringing, nervous Nellie, negative Nancy posts -- over used pallets? Are you kidding me right now? The smell is probably your vinegar douche oozing from your overly sensitive mangina, Ladyboy. ROTFL The whining and negativity in here has totally popped my happy bubble. This is how you do it, boys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccLQgIs4NM4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F5RO8ls7_k love ya mean it - Amanda |
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On 2/13/2018 3:52 PM, Amanda wrote:
[snip] Not to mention the nasties that may have soaked into the wood from the chemicals that may have spilled onto them. [snip] Could be oak or arsenic. Pallets get drug along trailer floors that have had who knows what spilled on them. [snip] Yeah, I can tell pine from "not pine" But which one smells like vinegar? the really bad poisonous one .. .. or maybe not. it might be the other one ? .. Who really knows ? .. when it comes down to it. .. hope this helps.. OMG! All the hand wringing, nervous Nellie, negative Nancy posts -- over used pallets? Are you kidding me right now? The smell is probably your vinegar douche oozing from your overly sensitive mangina, Ladyboy. ROTFL The whining and negativity in here has totally popped my happy bubble. This is how you do it, boys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccLQgIs4NM4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F5RO8ls7_k love ya mean it - Amanda right..... What is that rash I see on the girl in the video? |
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Identifying wood by smell
"Amanda" wrote in message news
OMG! All the hand wringing, nervous Nellie, negative Nancy posts -- over used pallets? Are you kidding me right now? The smell is probably your vinegar douche oozing from your overly sensitive mangina, Ladyboy. ROTFL The whining and negativity in here has totally popped my happy bubble. This is how you do it, boys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccLQgIs4NM4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F5RO8ls7_k love ya mean it - Amanda You are a riot Amanda! Keep hanging around! LOL |
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Itentifying wood by smell
On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 17:07:21 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote: Electric Comet on Mon, 12 Feb 2018 14:10:06 -0800 typed in rec.woodworking the following: On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:14:51 -0800 pyotr filipivich wrote: Yes, that is my quandary. I have a stack of pallets, and some rather nice (for some values of nice) boards in some of them. smell helps but the grain and density is a big help too some are treated with pesticidals some are toxic and some are not mostly see oak and fir but have seen maple no doubt they source locally suitable wood too but i have not seen other than those I have some mahogany boards salvaged off a shipping crate. My father had a bunch of black walnut and mahogany he salvaged out of WWII military equipment (a long time go ;-). |
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pyotr filipivich on Tue, 13 Feb 2018 09:44:58
-0800 typed in rec.woodworking the following: DerbyDad03 on Mon, 12 Feb 2018 18:41:14 -0800 (PST) typed in rec.woodworking the following: On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 8:06:15 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet on Mon, 12 Feb 2018 13:56:04 -0600 typed in rec.woodworking the following: The efficacy of reusing pallets or pallet wood is certainly a valid issue... I've only recycled them into kindling or used them on the floor of my lumber shed as any other use would be too great of a time waster... especially with the access I've had to rough cut over the years. Now that I have an Alaskan chainsaw mill even more opportunities present themselves. For example, while removing beaver killed trees from a rail trail last fall I picked up 8 cherry logs. I milled four of them in my back yard over the past couple weekends... My lumber shed is overflowing and I am looking into ways to store and dry more wood... I guarantee you none of it will be pallet wood! LOL Yeah, those pallets we ended up with, we receive more than we shipped out, we had to pay to get rid of them. So I kept the oak ones to one side and only one time tried to dismantle it. The rest saw my recip saw and the fireplace. If you want a four inch wide by 12 inch or so board, they're perfect. Especially for small boxes. Sure, boxes that smell like vinegar. ;-) With a tight enough fit, you can use them to store vinegar. Or you can seal it with olive oil, then have a salad bar. -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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Electric Comet on Tue, 13 Feb 2018
11:51:42 -0800 typed in rec.woodworking the following: On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 09:44:58 -0800 pyotr filipivich wrote: With a tight enough fit, you can use them to store vinegar. wooden boat builders actually use the swelling of the wood due to water to provide the seal have to get it just right though Yep - "build to the nearest boat" I've heard it put. -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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I have my firewood on International pallets. They are Fiberglass and
will hold a good load. I want to say close to 36x48. I bought a set for just the firewood - doesn't rot and holds the wood dry. The wood pallets are stacked edgewise in the far corner of the property near the dumpster. I have 2x several and some acres. I use pallets that are oak and strong as movable storage places. I'll take my 4x8 pallet covered with OSB to gather down limbs and cuttings. Nicer load than with forks or a small bucket. I can haul a long limb to an area to be cut. Martin On 2/12/2018 11:04 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote: "Leon"Â* wrote in message ... On 2/11/2018 11:24 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote: I recently toured the factory of Community Play Things. Their products are found in schools, day cares, hospitals, and other institutional places where children and babies can be found.Â* While there I found out that they use a wood for their outdoor products that is pickled. Though my memory of the details could be off, as I recall the wood itself is from Austria and the preservation is done in Norway... This not a finish but rather an impregnating process (I believe done under a vacuum like pressure treated wood). When I smelled the wood it had the scent of pickles/vinegar. For pallet wood it might be cost effective compared to heat treated wood... perhaps this is what you have. I used to receive and ship on pallets, hundreds per week.Â* I never saw a treated pallet as most were not wanted back by the shipper, GM. Only a very few were made out of a decent wood and those were so riddled with nails it was more trouble than it was worth to try and salvage for other uses. Regarding this tread, I was thinking more along the lines of the requirements for pallets used in international shipments to be treated in some way to prevent invasive pests.Â* The reference to the smell suggested to me it could be a product of this pickling process. The efficacy of reusing pallets or pallet wood is certainly a valid issue... I've only recycled them into kindling or used them on the floor of my lumber shed as any other use would be too great of a time waster... especially with the access I've had to rough cut over the years. Now that I have an Alaskan chainsaw mill even more opportunities present themselves. For example, while removing beaver killed trees from a rail trail last fall I picked up 8 cherry logs. I milled four of them in my back yard over the past couple weekends... My lumber shed is overflowing and I am looking into ways to store and dry more wood... I guarantee you none of it will be pallet wood! LOL |
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I'll take my 4x8 pallet covered with OSB to gather down limbs and cuttings. Nicer load than with forks or a small bucket. I can haul a long limb to an area to be cut. Martin Yep - you'd be surprised what a pallet will hold - I was - ... when I caught this on my dash cam .. :-) http://tinypic.com/r/1zxg82/9 John T. |
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I'll take my 4x8 pallet covered with OSB to gather down limbs and cuttings. Nicer load than with forks or a small bucket. I can haul a long limb to an area to be cut. Martin Yep - you'd be surprised what a pallet will hold - I was - when I caught this on my dash cam .. :-) http://tinypic.com/r/1zxg82/9 John T. Surprised the Bobcat didn't tip over. :-) It sure looked strange from a distance - until I was close enough to see what it was. I really like my dash-cam for this sort of thing - I've got a few great lightning bolt screenshots from it also. http://tinypic.com/r/35i5d1t/9 http://tinypic.com/r/1r5e69/9 John T. |
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on Fri, 16 Feb 2018 09:37:25 -0500 typed in
rec.woodworking the following: I'll take my 4x8 pallet covered with OSB to gather down limbs and cuttings. Nicer load than with forks or a small bucket. I can haul a long limb to an area to be cut. Martin Yep - you'd be surprised what a pallet will hold - I was - .. when I caught this on my dash cam .. :-) http://tinypic.com/r/1zxg82/9 John T. Hoo boy. OTOH, hay tends to "bulk out" before it "gross out". -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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