On 1/22/2018 7:38 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:55:57 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Electric Comet on Mon, 22 Jan 2018
11:52:16 -0800 typed in rec.woodworking the following:

who let them ship for free
someone has to pay for the cost to ship
maybe amazon absorbed some of it but usps and others must have been
bullied into absorbing the costs too

Amazon charges $9 a month for "free" shipping.

No, Prime is more than $9 (I think it just went up to $13) but they do
free shipping on orders greater than $50, also.

They may have cut a deal with UPS/USPS for a discount, but they
would not be the first.

Yes, there are reports that they have a real sweetheart deal with
USPS, subsidized by everyone in the US.


Just the other night there was an NBC special covering the sweetheart
deals that some cities are offering Amazon. I do not recall the small
town but they offered to let Amazon use the land for $1. That created
thousands of local jobs and a 35% increase in sales tax revenue.

On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 09:55:29 -0800
pyotr filipivich wrote:

Yep. Not sure how it works out practically (am I buying more
often because of "free" shopping, vs "saving up purchases" to qualify
for "free" shipping.?).


i am buying locally
and if that is not possible i try to buy direct as many manufacturers
are selling direct now

if none of those are possible than i rethink the need or do without

so far have not had to use the amazon of last resort

On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 2:33:49 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 09:55:29 -0800
pyotr filipivich wrote:

Yep. Not sure how it works out practically (am I buying more
often because of "free" shopping, vs "saving up purchases" to qualify
for "free" shipping.?).


i am buying locally
and if that is not possible i try to buy direct as many manufacturers
are selling direct now

if none of those are possible than i rethink the need or do without

so far have not had to use the amazon of last resort

nose spite face

On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 12:56:06 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 1/22/2018 7:38 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:55:57 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Electric Comet on Mon, 22 Jan 2018
11:52:16 -0800 typed in rec.woodworking the following:

who let them ship for free
someone has to pay for the cost to ship
maybe amazon absorbed some of it but usps and others must have been
bullied into absorbing the costs too

Amazon charges $9 a month for "free" shipping.

No, Prime is more than $9 (I think it just went up to $13) but they do
free shipping on orders greater than $50, also.

They may have cut a deal with UPS/USPS for a discount, but they
would not be the first.

Yes, there are reports that they have a real sweetheart deal with
USPS, subsidized by everyone in the US.


Just the other night there was an NBC special covering the sweetheart
deals that some cities are offering Amazon. I do not recall the small
town but they offered to let Amazon use the land for $1. That created
thousands of local jobs and a 35% increase in sales tax revenue.

That's peanuts. Amazon's going to want a lot more than a little land.
Atlanta is favored (even odds) by the odd-makers and I'll bet Georgia
will offer a package exceeding a $B to get it. Amazon is talking
about a $5B payroll for the HQ2.

On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 12:05:58 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 2:33:49 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 09:55:29 -0800
pyotr filipivich wrote:

Yep. Not sure how it works out practically (am I buying more
often because of "free" shopping, vs "saving up purchases" to qualify
for "free" shipping.?).


i am buying locally
and if that is not possible i try to buy direct as many manufacturers
are selling direct now

if none of those are possible than i rethink the need or do without

so far have not had to use the amazon of last resort

nose spite face

period

On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 12:28:23 -0500, woodchucker
wrote:

On 1/22/2018 9:47 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 2:52:22 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 10:45:39 -0500
woodchucker wrote:

Side issue: Amazon is ending the America that I knew. They are in
effect becoming a monopoly, and forcing many stores to close. While I
am not a shopper, nor is my wife, all these empty stores are very
noticeable. This will have repercussions in the building industry.


not disagreeing with the symptoms and retail across the board is
hurting badly

we are heading into a major correction

What kind of correction? In the stock market?

Please explain what you see that leads you to believe that.


i think many of the empty stores would have become empty without
amazon

Is that a standalone statement or is it supposed to be connected to
your "correction prediction"? If the statements are connected, please
explain why you think empty stores are going to lead to a "correction",
after you explain what type of correction you are talking about and why
you expect one.


some questions to ponder

who let them operate with out charging sales tax for so long
i think they charge sales tax now

They've always charged sales tax. It depends on the type of sale and the
location of where the item is being shipped. When they don't charge tax,
it's on the purchaser to pay it.

They didn't always. NJ forced them to.

"They" still don't. Some sellers still don't collect it.

Read up on "use tax".


who let them ship for free
someone has to pay for the cost to ship
maybe amazon absorbed some of it but usps and others must have been
bullied into absorbing the costs too

You obviously don't know how "free shipping" actually works. You, I and
everyone else who buys stuff on line are paying for it.
+1 yep, nothing is really free.

*NOTHING* is really free.

Electric Comet on Tue, 23 Jan 2018
11:33:44 -0800 typed in rec.woodworking the following:
On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 09:55:29 -0800
pyotr filipivich wrote:
Yep. Not sure how it works out practically (am I buying more
often because of "free" shopping, vs "saving up purchases" to qualify
for "free" shipping.?).

i am buying locally

I'd love to do that. Now, if only they stocked what I am looking
for.

and if that is not possible i try to buy direct as many manufacturers
are selling direct now

Sometimes it is a tossup. The one time I found buying a text
from the school bookstore cheaper was for a welding textbook. Cheaper
w/ the sales tax than straight from Lincoln + shipping.

if none of those are possible than i rethink the need or do without

When I have that option, sure.

"Value to whom? value as what?" I recall getting a call from an
east coast manufacturer "Do you have a particular router bit in stock?
Send it." Cost more in S&H but he needed it yesterday to finish
production.

so far have not had to use the amazon of last resort

Finding textbooks at Walmart for less than the bookstore - always
a deal. In one case, the school sold a reprint of part of a text, I
was able to find the original text for less than what the school
wanted for their "special". Even found the original Magnum Opus for
just a tad more than what the school wanted for their extract. If I
was willing to wait for a shipment from the UK.



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pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 18:23:41 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Cost more in S&H but he needed it yesterday to finish
production.

Ah a tangent, I know it is shipping and handling, but in the garage is
an S&H Green Stamp sign, a bit over 40" x 40", the light works, tis
wrapped in bubble wrap. Came from my wifes mom's house, the wifes
brothers liberated it in the past.

Markem on Tue, 23 Jan 2018 23:53:38 -0600
typed in rec.woodworking the following:
On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 18:23:41 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Cost more in S&H but he needed it yesterday to finish
production.

Ah a tangent, I know it is shipping and handling, but in the garage is
an S&H Green Stamp sign, a bit over 40" x 40", the light works, tis
wrapped in bubble wrap. Came from my wifes mom's house, the wifes
brothers liberated it in the past.

Cool.

"Shipping and Handling" - "Those fingerprints don't get on the
merchandise by themselves. Someone has to put them there!"
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pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?