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On 10/4/2017 12:54 PM, notbob wrote:
On 2017-10-04, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

AAMOF leaded gasoline is a lubricant.


Actually, TEL is a fuel additive. More specifically, an "octane
booster". Jes cuz car/motorcycle magazine editors called it a
"lubricant" for 4-stroke combustion engine valve seats does not make
so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraethyllead

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Just common knowledge.
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On 4 Oct 2017 17:12:34 GMT, notbob wrote:

On 2017-10-03, dpb wrote:


"Stoddard oil" was essentially it way back when;


It is stoddard "solvent", not "oil". Jes cuz it is a petroleum
distilate, does not make it a lubricant. Is gasoline a lubricant?

BTW, water is also considered a "solvent".

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And after 2 weeks with no rain, and then a light downpour, my Ranger
thought water was a pretty good lubricant on the road too - - - -
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 15:00:25 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 10/4/2017 12:54 PM, notbob wrote:
On 2017-10-04, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

AAMOF leaded gasoline is a lubricant.


Actually, TEL is a fuel additive. More specifically, an "octane
booster". Jes cuz car/motorcycle magazine editors called it a
"lubricant" for 4-stroke combustion engine valve seats does not make
so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraethyllead

nb


Just common knowledge.

The use of the term "lubricant" in this case is controversial. It
keeps the metal of the valve and the metal of the seat from
micro-welding and tearing each other apart. It is NOT a "lubricant" in
the classic sense of the word
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On 04 Oct 2017 21:19:32 GMT, Puckdropper
puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote:

wrote in :

On 04 Oct 2017 05:37:53 GMT, Puckdropper
puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote:

wrote in
news

Water sex is overrated. Use KY.

Would WD40 sex be better?


You're asking me?


I just can't imagine it...

Does rule 34 apply?

Perhaps we're getting close to the line.
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On 10/4/2017 1:36 PM, notbob wrote:

Wranglerstar, a YouTube regular, has tried several rust removing
tricks. He actually recommends a regular "rust remover" (not Naval
Jelly), which he compared along side white vinegar. The "remover"
worked better, but I forget its name.


Wranglestar reminds me of a semi-spoiled rich kid that suddenly got
interested in DIY. Has lots of nice toys, and nicer property.

Anyway, Naval jelly works better than anything I've tried if you have
heavy rust. The video SpaltedWalt referenced using vinegar to derust a
drill press taking all night and a lot of elbow grease could have been
done, and done better, in about 20 minutes with naval jelly. Would love
to watch Leon try to derust that sucker with WD40.

I de-rusted my tools when I first got them, including the drill press
column with Naval Jel, and it worked a treat. Follow up with Bostik Top
Coat and your in like Flynn.. WD40 might work with LOTS and LOTS of
work, and steel wool, but mainly on very light rust. About anything
works on light rust.

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On Thu, 05 Oct 2017 02:34:35 +0000, Spalted Walt
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wrote:

On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 17:11:59 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
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On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 8:05:25 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 16:42:36 -0400, wrote:

On 4 Oct 2017 17:12:34 GMT, notbob wrote:

On 2017-10-03, dpb wrote:


"Stoddard oil" was essentially it way back when;

It is stoddard "solvent", not "oil". Jes cuz it is a petroleum
distilate, does not make it a lubricant. Is gasoline a lubricant?

BTW, water is also considered a "solvent".

nb
And after 2 weeks with no rain, and then a light downpour, my Ranger
thought water was a pretty good lubricant on the road too - - - -

We get a lot of that, here in Atlanta, every time it rains. People
just can't understand the basics of defensive driving.

If I type the word "snow" someone nearby will slide off the highway and onto the median.
Yep...there they go. Sorry about that.



They absolutely freak here. If I didn't have to be on the same roads,
it would be hilarious.


LOL! I spent a week there one day in January '82.

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/ht297f...t-south-parked


Well, that's exactly the storm I was referring to (AKA
"Snowmageddon"). The city of Atlanta didn't bother to cancel school
that day (the schools in our area did), then released all the kids at
the same time as most of the businesses closed and sent their people
home. I can't imagine being stuck overnight on a school bus full of
2nd graders but there they were.

I live at the far edge of the "metro area" and we had 2", at most. It
took me three hours to get home (normally 25min) and I had to take the
polar route to even get there. My normal route was impassible - cars
everywhere.


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On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 10:49:06 -0400, Jack wrote:

On 10/4/2017 1:36 PM, notbob wrote:

Wranglerstar, a YouTube regular, has tried several rust removing
tricks. He actually recommends a regular "rust remover" (not Naval
Jelly), which he compared along side white vinegar. The "remover"
worked better, but I forget its name.


Wranglestar reminds me of a semi-spoiled rich kid that suddenly got
interested in DIY. Has lots of nice toys, and nicer property.

Anyway, Naval jelly works better than anything I've tried if you have
heavy rust. The video SpaltedWalt referenced using vinegar to derust a
drill press taking all night and a lot of elbow grease could have been
done, and done better, in about 20 minutes with naval jelly. Would love
to watch Leon try to derust that sucker with WD40.

I de-rusted my tools when I first got them, including the drill press
column with Naval Jel, and it worked a treat. Follow up with Bostik Top
Coat and your in like Flynn.. WD40 might work with LOTS and LOTS of
work, and steel wool, but mainly on very light rust. About anything
works on light rust.


Believe it is "in like Flint".
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Markem writes:
On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 10:49:06 -0400, Jack wrote:

On 10/4/2017 1:36 PM, notbob wrote:

Wranglerstar, a YouTube regular, has tried several rust removing
tricks. He actually recommends a regular "rust remover" (not Naval
Jelly), which he compared along side white vinegar. The "remover"
worked better, but I forget its name.


Wranglestar reminds me of a semi-spoiled rich kid that suddenly got
interested in DIY. Has lots of nice toys, and nicer property.

Anyway, Naval jelly works better than anything I've tried if you have
heavy rust. The video SpaltedWalt referenced using vinegar to derust a
drill press taking all night and a lot of elbow grease could have been
done, and done better, in about 20 minutes with naval jelly. Would love
to watch Leon try to derust that sucker with WD40.

I de-rusted my tools when I first got them, including the drill press
column with Naval Jel, and it worked a treat. Follow up with Bostik Top
Coat and your in like Flynn.. WD40 might work with LOTS and LOTS of
work, and steel wool, but mainly on very light rust. About anything
works on light rust.


Believe it is "in like Flint".


That would be a malapropism.

Flynn[*] is the original, _In Like Flint_ is a movie (and not as good
as the first one ...)
[*] as in Errol Flynn and his underage companions.
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On Thu, 05 Oct 2017 18:02:50 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
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Markem writes:
On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 10:49:06 -0400, Jack wrote:

On 10/4/2017 1:36 PM, notbob wrote:

Wranglerstar, a YouTube regular, has tried several rust removing
tricks. He actually recommends a regular "rust remover" (not Naval
Jelly), which he compared along side white vinegar. The "remover"
worked better, but I forget its name.

Wranglestar reminds me of a semi-spoiled rich kid that suddenly got
interested in DIY. Has lots of nice toys, and nicer property.

Anyway, Naval jelly works better than anything I've tried if you have
heavy rust. The video SpaltedWalt referenced using vinegar to derust a
drill press taking all night and a lot of elbow grease could have been
done, and done better, in about 20 minutes with naval jelly. Would love
to watch Leon try to derust that sucker with WD40.

I de-rusted my tools when I first got them, including the drill press
column with Naval Jel, and it worked a treat. Follow up with Bostik Top
Coat and your in like Flynn.. WD40 might work with LOTS and LOTS of
work, and steel wool, but mainly on very light rust. About anything
works on light rust.


Believe it is "in like Flint".


That would be a malapropism.

Flynn[*] is the original, _In Like Flint_ is a movie (and not as good
as the first one ...)

[*] as in Errol Flynn and his underage companions.


Maybe but the master swashbuckler is not of my age, only saw him in
black n white TV on WGN.
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On 10/3/17 11:30 AM, Greg Guarino wrote:
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Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough
that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height?



Electrolysis. Same method to clean up old hand planes. Requires a car
battery charger and a bath of electrolyte (washing soda I believe)

You will need to separate out the column and place it into the solution.


-BR
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On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 08:30:19 -0600, Brewster wrote:

On 10/3/17 11:30 AM, Greg Guarino wrote:
[not my drill press]

Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough
that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height?



Electrolysis. Same method to clean up old hand planes. Requires a car
battery charger and a bath of electrolyte (washing soda I believe)

You will need to separate out the column and place it into the solution.


-BR

A bit of fun on a 5 foot tall floor mounted press - I can think of a
lot of other drill presses that would make that rather challenging - -
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On 10/7/2017 9:30 AM, Brewster wrote:
On 10/3/17 11:30 AM, Greg Guarino wrote:
[not my drill press]

Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough
that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height?



Electrolysis. Same method to clean up old hand planes. Requires a car
battery charger and a bath of electrolyte (washing soda I believe)

You will need to separate out the column and place it into the solution.


-BR


Best to check that, the common electrolyte is sulfuric acid. That would
quickly eat away the metal too and very quickly. ;~)
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Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 10/7/2017 9:30 AM, Brewster wrote:
On 10/3/17 11:30 AM, Greg Guarino wrote:
[not my drill press]

Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough
that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height?



Electrolysis. Same method to clean up old hand planes. Requires a car
battery charger and a bath of electrolyte (washing soda I believe)

You will need to separate out the column and place it into the solution.


-BR


Best to check that, the common electrolyte is sulfuric acid.


Not for rust removal...

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...s+rust+removal

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On 10/7/2017 1:07 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 10/7/2017 9:30 AM, Brewster wrote:
On 10/3/17 11:30 AM, Greg Guarino wrote:
[not my drill press]

Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough
that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height?


Electrolysis. Same method to clean up old hand planes. Requires a car
battery charger and a bath of electrolyte (washing soda I believe)

You will need to separate out the column and place it into the solution.


-BR


Best to check that, the common electrolyte is sulfuric acid.


Not for rust removal...

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...s+rust+removal

That! was what I was trying to convey.

But you left this part out.

That would quickly eat away the metal too and very quickly. ;~)
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On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 12:22:18 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 10/7/2017 9:30 AM, Brewster wrote:
On 10/3/17 11:30 AM, Greg Guarino wrote:
[not my drill press]

Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough
that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height?



Electrolysis. Same method to clean up old hand planes. Requires a car
battery charger and a bath of electrolyte (washing soda I believe)

You will need to separate out the column and place it into the solution.


-BR


Best to check that, the common electrolyte is sulfuric acid. That would
quickly eat away the metal too and very quickly. ;~)

Derusting "electrolyte" is NEVER acid. Washing soda IS one of the
most common


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On 10/7/17 11:22 AM, Leon wrote:
On 10/7/2017 9:30 AM, Brewster wrote:
On 10/3/17 11:30 AM, Greg Guarino wrote:
[not my drill press]

Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough
that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height?



Electrolysis. Same method to clean up old hand planes. Requires a car
battery charger and a bath of electrolyte (washing soda I believe)

You will need to separate out the column and place it into the solution.


-BR


Best to check that, the common electrolyte is sulfuric acid. That would
quickly eat away the metal too and very quickly. ;~)



From http://antique-engines.com/electrol.asp

What you need:
A non-conducting container - a large plastic bucket works really well.
Battery charger - big is better, however even one able to produce 6 to
10 amps should do. A student recently used my site as the basis for a
school project and used a computer power supply in place of battery charger.
Sacrificial electrodes. Concrete reinforcing rod works well (rebar) cut
into lengths about 4" taller than your bucket or container. Do not use
stainless steel! The results are a health hazard and illegal (more on
that later)
Arm and Hammer LAUNDRY soda, also called washing soda. (see below for
details)
Wire and/or cables for connecting electrodes together.
Water.
Small lengths of small chain (used to suspend the rusty parts in
solution) or some other means to suspend the part to clean into the
solution.
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On Sunday, October 8, 2017 at 10:33:08 AM UTC-4, Brewster wrote:


From http://antique-engines.com/electrol.asp

This was fascinating. thanks.




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On 2017-10-09, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

Yes, you would not want to use the sulfuric acid, a very common electrolyte.


Mmmmm....

I seem to recall we had a small electro-polish tub filled with a
diluted sulfuric acid mixture. This was strictly for "polishing"
brand new metal parts (no rust removal).

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Greg Guarino wrote:

[not my drill press]

Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough
that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height?


https://www.youtube.com/embed/ACGSzB...toplay=1&rel=0

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On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 9:44:20 PM UTC-4, Spalted Walt wrote:
Greg Guarino wrote:

[not my drill press]

Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough
that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height?


https://www.youtube.com/embed/ACGSzB...toplay=1&rel=0


For half a million, you could buy a heck of a lot of drill press columns. ;-)
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Greg Guarino wrote:

[not my drill press]


belongs to the neighbor of a friend to your cousin

Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down
enough that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table
height?


a very stiff wire brush and water first then some emory cloth and water
and then when it is how you like it coat with mineral oil and wipe down









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