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On 10/4/2017 12:54 PM, notbob wrote:
On 2017-10-04, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: AAMOF leaded gasoline is a lubricant. Actually, TEL is a fuel additive. More specifically, an "octane booster". Jes cuz car/motorcycle magazine editors called it a "lubricant" for 4-stroke combustion engine valve seats does not make so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraethyllead nb Just common knowledge. |
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On 4 Oct 2017 17:12:34 GMT, notbob wrote:
On 2017-10-03, dpb wrote: "Stoddard oil" was essentially it way back when; It is stoddard "solvent", not "oil". Jes cuz it is a petroleum distilate, does not make it a lubricant. Is gasoline a lubricant? BTW, water is also considered a "solvent". nb And after 2 weeks with no rain, and then a light downpour, my Ranger thought water was a pretty good lubricant on the road too - - - - |
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 15:00:25 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:
On 10/4/2017 12:54 PM, notbob wrote: On 2017-10-04, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: AAMOF leaded gasoline is a lubricant. Actually, TEL is a fuel additive. More specifically, an "octane booster". Jes cuz car/motorcycle magazine editors called it a "lubricant" for 4-stroke combustion engine valve seats does not make so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraethyllead nb Just common knowledge. The use of the term "lubricant" in this case is controversial. It keeps the metal of the valve and the metal of the seat from micro-welding and tearing each other apart. It is NOT a "lubricant" in the classic sense of the word |
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On 04 Oct 2017 21:19:32 GMT, Puckdropper
puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: wrote in : On 04 Oct 2017 05:37:53 GMT, Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: wrote in news Water sex is overrated. Use KY. Would WD40 sex be better? You're asking me? I just can't imagine it... Does rule 34 apply? Perhaps we're getting close to the line. |
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On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 8:05:25 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 16:42:36 -0400, wrote: On 4 Oct 2017 17:12:34 GMT, notbob wrote: On 2017-10-03, dpb wrote: "Stoddard oil" was essentially it way back when; It is stoddard "solvent", not "oil". Jes cuz it is a petroleum distilate, does not make it a lubricant. Is gasoline a lubricant? BTW, water is also considered a "solvent". nb And after 2 weeks with no rain, and then a light downpour, my Ranger thought water was a pretty good lubricant on the road too - - - - We get a lot of that, here in Atlanta, every time it rains. People just can't understand the basics of defensive driving. If I type the word "snow" someone nearby will slide off the highway and onto the median. Yep...there they go. Sorry about that. |
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 17:11:59 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 8:05:25 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 16:42:36 -0400, wrote: On 4 Oct 2017 17:12:34 GMT, notbob wrote: On 2017-10-03, dpb wrote: "Stoddard oil" was essentially it way back when; It is stoddard "solvent", not "oil". Jes cuz it is a petroleum distilate, does not make it a lubricant. Is gasoline a lubricant? BTW, water is also considered a "solvent". nb And after 2 weeks with no rain, and then a light downpour, my Ranger thought water was a pretty good lubricant on the road too - - - - We get a lot of that, here in Atlanta, every time it rains. People just can't understand the basics of defensive driving. If I type the word "snow" someone nearby will slide off the highway and onto the median. Yep...there they go. Sorry about that. Less than a foot is a "light snowfall". but the first 1 inch snow generally causes some bedlam here too. |
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On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 22:00:41 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 17:11:59 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 8:05:25 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 16:42:36 -0400, wrote: On 4 Oct 2017 17:12:34 GMT, notbob wrote: On 2017-10-03, dpb wrote: "Stoddard oil" was essentially it way back when; It is stoddard "solvent", not "oil". Jes cuz it is a petroleum distilate, does not make it a lubricant. Is gasoline a lubricant? BTW, water is also considered a "solvent". nb And after 2 weeks with no rain, and then a light downpour, my Ranger thought water was a pretty good lubricant on the road too - - - - We get a lot of that, here in Atlanta, every time it rains. People just can't understand the basics of defensive driving. If I type the word "snow" someone nearby will slide off the highway and onto the median. Yep...there they go. Sorry about that. Less than a foot is a "light snowfall". but the first 1 inch snow generally causes some bedlam here too. When I lived in Vermont, the first snow of the year caused all sorts of grief. People don't have Winter tires yet and drive like they did all Summer. It's like people didn't know it was going to snow some day and even forgot what the stuff is. After that, snow wasn't a big thing, until there was so much no one went anywhere (for a few hours). |
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 17:11:59 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 8:05:25 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 16:42:36 -0400, wrote: On 4 Oct 2017 17:12:34 GMT, notbob wrote: On 2017-10-03, dpb wrote: "Stoddard oil" was essentially it way back when; It is stoddard "solvent", not "oil". Jes cuz it is a petroleum distilate, does not make it a lubricant. Is gasoline a lubricant? BTW, water is also considered a "solvent". nb And after 2 weeks with no rain, and then a light downpour, my Ranger thought water was a pretty good lubricant on the road too - - - - We get a lot of that, here in Atlanta, every time it rains. People just can't understand the basics of defensive driving. If I type the word "snow" someone nearby will slide off the highway and onto the median. Yep...there they go. Sorry about that. They absolutely freak here. If I didn't have to be on the same roads, it would be hilarious. LOL! I spent a week there one day in January '82. http://www.cc.com/video-clips/ht297f...t-south-parked |
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On 10/4/2017 8:34 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
wrote: On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 17:11:59 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, October 4, 2017, wrote: We get a lot of that, here in Atlanta, every time it rains. People just can't understand the basics of defensive driving. If I type the word "snow" someone nearby will slide off the highway and onto the median. Yep...there they go. Sorry about that. They absolutely freak here. If I didn't have to be on the same roads, it would be hilarious. LOL! I spent a week there one day in January '82. That reminded me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqCZFT0TN2E |
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On 10/4/2017 1:36 PM, notbob wrote:
Wranglerstar, a YouTube regular, has tried several rust removing tricks. He actually recommends a regular "rust remover" (not Naval Jelly), which he compared along side white vinegar. The "remover" worked better, but I forget its name. Wranglestar reminds me of a semi-spoiled rich kid that suddenly got interested in DIY. Has lots of nice toys, and nicer property. Anyway, Naval jelly works better than anything I've tried if you have heavy rust. The video SpaltedWalt referenced using vinegar to derust a drill press taking all night and a lot of elbow grease could have been done, and done better, in about 20 minutes with naval jelly. Would love to watch Leon try to derust that sucker with WD40. I de-rusted my tools when I first got them, including the drill press column with Naval Jel, and it worked a treat. Follow up with Bostik Top Coat and your in like Flynn.. WD40 might work with LOTS and LOTS of work, and steel wool, but mainly on very light rust. About anything works on light rust. -- Jack Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions. http://jbstein.com |
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On Thu, 05 Oct 2017 02:34:35 +0000, Spalted Walt
wrote: wrote: On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 17:11:59 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 8:05:25 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 16:42:36 -0400, wrote: On 4 Oct 2017 17:12:34 GMT, notbob wrote: On 2017-10-03, dpb wrote: "Stoddard oil" was essentially it way back when; It is stoddard "solvent", not "oil". Jes cuz it is a petroleum distilate, does not make it a lubricant. Is gasoline a lubricant? BTW, water is also considered a "solvent". nb And after 2 weeks with no rain, and then a light downpour, my Ranger thought water was a pretty good lubricant on the road too - - - - We get a lot of that, here in Atlanta, every time it rains. People just can't understand the basics of defensive driving. If I type the word "snow" someone nearby will slide off the highway and onto the median. Yep...there they go. Sorry about that. They absolutely freak here. If I didn't have to be on the same roads, it would be hilarious. LOL! I spent a week there one day in January '82. http://www.cc.com/video-clips/ht297f...t-south-parked Well, that's exactly the storm I was referring to (AKA "Snowmageddon"). The city of Atlanta didn't bother to cancel school that day (the schools in our area did), then released all the kids at the same time as most of the businesses closed and sent their people home. I can't imagine being stuck overnight on a school bus full of 2nd graders but there they were. I live at the far edge of the "metro area" and we had 2", at most. It took me three hours to get home (normally 25min) and I had to take the polar route to even get there. My normal route was impassible - cars everywhere. |
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On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 10:49:06 -0400, Jack wrote:
On 10/4/2017 1:36 PM, notbob wrote: Wranglerstar, a YouTube regular, has tried several rust removing tricks. He actually recommends a regular "rust remover" (not Naval Jelly), which he compared along side white vinegar. The "remover" worked better, but I forget its name. Wranglestar reminds me of a semi-spoiled rich kid that suddenly got interested in DIY. Has lots of nice toys, and nicer property. Anyway, Naval jelly works better than anything I've tried if you have heavy rust. The video SpaltedWalt referenced using vinegar to derust a drill press taking all night and a lot of elbow grease could have been done, and done better, in about 20 minutes with naval jelly. Would love to watch Leon try to derust that sucker with WD40. I de-rusted my tools when I first got them, including the drill press column with Naval Jel, and it worked a treat. Follow up with Bostik Top Coat and your in like Flynn.. WD40 might work with LOTS and LOTS of work, and steel wool, but mainly on very light rust. About anything works on light rust. Believe it is "in like Flint". |
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Markem writes:
On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 10:49:06 -0400, Jack wrote: On 10/4/2017 1:36 PM, notbob wrote: Wranglerstar, a YouTube regular, has tried several rust removing tricks. He actually recommends a regular "rust remover" (not Naval Jelly), which he compared along side white vinegar. The "remover" worked better, but I forget its name. Wranglestar reminds me of a semi-spoiled rich kid that suddenly got interested in DIY. Has lots of nice toys, and nicer property. Anyway, Naval jelly works better than anything I've tried if you have heavy rust. The video SpaltedWalt referenced using vinegar to derust a drill press taking all night and a lot of elbow grease could have been done, and done better, in about 20 minutes with naval jelly. Would love to watch Leon try to derust that sucker with WD40. I de-rusted my tools when I first got them, including the drill press column with Naval Jel, and it worked a treat. Follow up with Bostik Top Coat and your in like Flynn.. WD40 might work with LOTS and LOTS of work, and steel wool, but mainly on very light rust. About anything works on light rust. Believe it is "in like Flint". That would be a malapropism. Flynn[*] is the original, _In Like Flint_ is a movie (and not as good as the first one ...) [*] as in Errol Flynn and his underage companions. |
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On 10/3/17 11:30 AM, Greg Guarino wrote:
[not my drill press] Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height? Electrolysis. Same method to clean up old hand planes. Requires a car battery charger and a bath of electrolyte (washing soda I believe) You will need to separate out the column and place it into the solution. -BR |
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On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 08:30:19 -0600, Brewster wrote:
On 10/3/17 11:30 AM, Greg Guarino wrote: [not my drill press] Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height? Electrolysis. Same method to clean up old hand planes. Requires a car battery charger and a bath of electrolyte (washing soda I believe) You will need to separate out the column and place it into the solution. -BR A bit of fun on a 5 foot tall floor mounted press - I can think of a lot of other drill presses that would make that rather challenging - - - |
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On 10/7/2017 9:30 AM, Brewster wrote:
On 10/3/17 11:30 AM, Greg Guarino wrote: [not my drill press] Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height? Electrolysis. Same method to clean up old hand planes. Requires a car battery charger and a bath of electrolyte (washing soda I believe) You will need to separate out the column and place it into the solution. -BR Best to check that, the common electrolyte is sulfuric acid. That would quickly eat away the metal too and very quickly. ;~) |
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Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:
On 10/7/2017 9:30 AM, Brewster wrote: On 10/3/17 11:30 AM, Greg Guarino wrote: [not my drill press] Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height? Electrolysis. Same method to clean up old hand planes. Requires a car battery charger and a bath of electrolyte (washing soda I believe) You will need to separate out the column and place it into the solution. -BR Best to check that, the common electrolyte is sulfuric acid. Not for rust removal... https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...s+rust+removal |
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On 10/7/2017 1:07 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 10/7/2017 9:30 AM, Brewster wrote: On 10/3/17 11:30 AM, Greg Guarino wrote: [not my drill press] Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height? Electrolysis. Same method to clean up old hand planes. Requires a car battery charger and a bath of electrolyte (washing soda I believe) You will need to separate out the column and place it into the solution. -BR Best to check that, the common electrolyte is sulfuric acid. Not for rust removal... https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...s+rust+removal That! was what I was trying to convey. But you left this part out. That would quickly eat away the metal too and very quickly. ;~) |
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On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 12:22:18 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:
On 10/7/2017 9:30 AM, Brewster wrote: On 10/3/17 11:30 AM, Greg Guarino wrote: [not my drill press] Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height? Electrolysis. Same method to clean up old hand planes. Requires a car battery charger and a bath of electrolyte (washing soda I believe) You will need to separate out the column and place it into the solution. -BR Best to check that, the common electrolyte is sulfuric acid. That would quickly eat away the metal too and very quickly. ;~) Derusting "electrolyte" is NEVER acid. Washing soda IS one of the most common |
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On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 18:57:19 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 11:37:16 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 08:30:19 -0600, Brewster wrote: On 10/3/17 11:30 AM, Greg Guarino wrote: [not my drill press] Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height? Electrolysis. Same method to clean up old hand planes. Requires a car battery charger and a bath of electrolyte (washing soda I believe) You will need to separate out the column and place it into the solution. -BR A bit of fun on a 5 foot tall floor mounted press - I can think of a lot of other drill presses that would make that rather challenging - - - A hunk of 6" or 8" PVC drain pipe doesn't seem unreasonable. It may take some time with a dinky car charger, though. You also need a full length electrode - - - - |
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On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 22:20:40 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 18:57:19 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 11:37:16 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 08:30:19 -0600, Brewster wrote: On 10/3/17 11:30 AM, Greg Guarino wrote: [not my drill press] Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height? Electrolysis. Same method to clean up old hand planes. Requires a car battery charger and a bath of electrolyte (washing soda I believe) You will need to separate out the column and place it into the solution. -BR A bit of fun on a 5 foot tall floor mounted press - I can think of a lot of other drill presses that would make that rather challenging - - - A hunk of 6" or 8" PVC drain pipe doesn't seem unreasonable. It may take some time with a dinky car charger, though. You also need a full length electrode - - - - Rebars are cheap enough. |
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On 10/7/17 11:22 AM, Leon wrote:
On 10/7/2017 9:30 AM, Brewster wrote: On 10/3/17 11:30 AM, Greg Guarino wrote: [not my drill press] Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height? Electrolysis. Same method to clean up old hand planes. Requires a car battery charger and a bath of electrolyte (washing soda I believe) You will need to separate out the column and place it into the solution. -BR Best to check that, the common electrolyte is sulfuric acid. That would quickly eat away the metal too and very quickly. ;~) From http://antique-engines.com/electrol.asp What you need: A non-conducting container - a large plastic bucket works really well. Battery charger - big is better, however even one able to produce 6 to 10 amps should do. A student recently used my site as the basis for a school project and used a computer power supply in place of battery charger. Sacrificial electrodes. Concrete reinforcing rod works well (rebar) cut into lengths about 4" taller than your bucket or container. Do not use stainless steel! The results are a health hazard and illegal (more on that later) Arm and Hammer LAUNDRY soda, also called washing soda. (see below for details) Wire and/or cables for connecting electrodes together. Water. Small lengths of small chain (used to suspend the rusty parts in solution) or some other means to suspend the part to clean into the solution. |
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On Sunday, October 8, 2017 at 10:33:08 AM UTC-4, Brewster wrote:
From http://antique-engines.com/electrol.asp This was fascinating. thanks. |
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On 2017-10-09, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:
Yes, you would not want to use the sulfuric acid, a very common electrolyte. Mmmmm.... I seem to recall we had a small electro-polish tub filled with a diluted sulfuric acid mixture. This was strictly for "polishing" brand new metal parts (no rust removal). nb |
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Greg Guarino wrote:
[not my drill press] Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height? https://www.youtube.com/embed/ACGSzB...toplay=1&rel=0 |
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On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 9:44:20 PM UTC-4, Spalted Walt wrote:
Greg Guarino wrote: [not my drill press] Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height? https://www.youtube.com/embed/ACGSzB...toplay=1&rel=0 For half a million, you could buy a heck of a lot of drill press columns. ;-) |
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On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 13:30:38 -0400
Greg Guarino wrote: [not my drill press] belongs to the neighbor of a friend to your cousin Any idea how to either remove the rust or at least smooth it down enough that the friction isn't in impediment to adjusting the table height? a very stiff wire brush and water first then some emory cloth and water and then when it is how you like it coat with mineral oil and wipe down |
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