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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On 05 Sep 2017 20:24:02 GMT, Puckdropper
puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in : LOL. I always went to the meetings and one day the HOA VP visited me and indicated that the secretary resigned. He asked if I would be willing to fill that spot, I accepted. FF about a year and the board made me president. I keep getting reelected with no opposition and reassigned to hold the president position. Leadership is sometimes a position they give you to keep you from causing trouble. You weren't causing trouble for them, were you Leon? ;-) It's also something given to you because you didn't step backwards fast enough. You do have a point, though. I think twice before I speak at our annual meeting. My mouth may earn me something my ass doesn't want to pay for. |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 20:17:05 -0700 (PDT), Sonny
wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 7:22:10 PM UTC-5, wrote: I didn't say anything about FEMA doing everything right after Katrina. FEMA is (federal) government. When they do something right, it's time to be amazed. But the other five trailers they used did not leak. Let's all hope that FEMA learned something. Kinna diverting from this school of thought, FEMA did learn something after Katrina. The trailers they supplied had issues with the China-made plywood interiors, namely, the gassing off of formaldehyde. Lots of those trailers were simply parked, unused. Later, some outfits tried to sell some of them, after buying them thinking they could turn a quick profit off unknowing buyers. If I'm not mistaken, there were still some parked at the old racetrack, here, just 2 yrs ago. We'll see if they really learned anything. Would you have suspected that formaldehyde might be bad for people? It wasn't unknown in plywood and particle board, at the time. Another diversion from thought: Prospective subdivisions, here, have (had?) been havens for drug dealers (cul-de-sacs or otherwise), in that, the mail boxes, of the empty homes, was where the transactions took place.... no one paid attention to them as exchange (money-drugs) venues. The subdivision, behind me, was one of those places where exchanges were made, via the mailboxes. Several guys (brothers), living behind me, got caught. Nice dark places, off the beaten path, attract all sorts of vermin. |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:54:05 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 02-Sep-17 10:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Yep, $4000 grand and it's sitting on your lot, ready for you to move into. I guess they come with delivery. Water's hook up, sewer, electricity, all up to whatever lenient code the city allows during this stressful time. ... None of the above will be in the $4K except perhaps trailering to your location. It's not likely the city will allow one to put it on the lot even in these circumstances, though, altho it makes common sense that rarely has any place in government, particularly in code enforcement. I assume you realize that that was a sarcastic response to Clare's $4K housing solution. I sure wasn't being serious. I was. When my kid broyher's house burned down that's excatly what he did. He picked up an old RV and parked it in his yard untill the new house was built. Her used a camping sewer cart to take the effluent from the trailer to his septic tank. ...because he could afford to. Stoll lots of cheap RVs for sale in Florida - might not be something you want to park in a fancy trailrt park beside some guy's 2 million dollar rig - but it's dry, warm, and enclosed, with a kitchen and head. ...if you can afford to buy one, transport it, hook it up, etc. I have no argument with the practicality of using a trailer as temporary housing. My only issue, right from the start, is with those that make it sound like it's so cheap (and practical) that every displaced person in the Houston area should just do it. There's theory, then there's real life. $4K for you may not be a hardship, but $4K for a impoverished person might as well be $4MM. OTOH, an "impoverished person" wouldn't be parking an RV in his back yard while his home was being rebuilt. My point exactly. They wouldn't be parking an RV in their yard becasue they can't afford it. Some folks around here make it sound like it's the solution for all. Hey, if they can afford a minimal RV then they probably can't afford to rebuild the house either. How did they manage to pay for it to begin with? There are thousands of not-impoverished persons in Greater Houston who are without homes, too. Yep. BTW, that's exactly what FEMA does - move trailers in for those who have no other place to live, while the cleanup is in progress. They made a mess of it after Katrina but my bet is that they've learned a thing or three, since. Let's hope so. What do you mean a mess? Everything seems perfectly normal to me. ;-) "Part of the problem was that FEMA was projected to spend $239,000 for each 280-square-foot trailer at one site through March 2009 – as much as a buying a five-bedroom, 2,000-square-foot home in Jackson, Miss., according to GAO." http://www.whas11.com/ext/news/natio...mMI4OaE0ikOiwO |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On Mon, 04 Sep 2017 20:25:51 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:54:05 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 02-Sep-17 10:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Yep, $4000 grand and it's sitting on your lot, ready for you to move into. I guess they come with delivery. Water's hook up, sewer, electricity, all up to whatever lenient code the city allows during this stressful time. ... None of the above will be in the $4K except perhaps trailering to your location. It's not likely the city will allow one to put it on the lot even in these circumstances, though, altho it makes common sense that rarely has any place in government, particularly in code enforcement. I assume you realize that that was a sarcastic response to Clare's $4K housing solution. I sure wasn't being serious. I was. When my kid broyher's house burned down that's excatly what he did. He picked up an old RV and parked it in his yard untill the new house was built. Her used a camping sewer cart to take the effluent from the trailer to his septic tank. ...because he could afford to. Stoll lots of cheap RVs for sale in Florida - might not be something you want to park in a fancy trailrt park beside some guy's 2 million dollar rig - but it's dry, warm, and enclosed, with a kitchen and head. ...if you can afford to buy one, transport it, hook it up, etc. I have no argument with the practicality of using a trailer as temporary housing. My only issue, right from the start, is with those that make it sound like it's so cheap (and practical) that every displaced person in the Houston area should just do it. There's theory, then there's real life. $4K for you may not be a hardship, but $4K for a impoverished person might as well be $4MM. OTOH, an "impoverished person" wouldn't be parking an RV in his back yard while his home was being rebuilt. My point exactly. They wouldn't be parking an RV in their yard becasue they can't afford it. Some folks around here make it sound like it's the solution for all. They have no back yard to park one in if they had the $4000. I don't believe the last sentence is true at all. I guess I have a higher regard for the folks here. (1) who said anything about "back yard", and why a yard at all? Haven't you people ever seen a driveway? (2) If they don't own property then what the Hell are they supposed to be rebuilding? (hint, if your apartment is destroyed, is isn't _your_ responsibility to rebuild it). There are thousands of not-impoverished persons in Greater Houston who are without homes, too. Yep. BTW, that's exactly what FEMA does - move trailers in for those who have no other place to live, while the cleanup is in progress. They made a mess of it after Katrina but my bet is that they've learned a thing or three, since. Let's hope so. What do you mean a mess? Everything seems perfectly normal to me. ;-) Good point, though normal = mess when the federal government gets involved. "Part of the problem was that FEMA was projected to spend $239,000 for each 280-square-foot trailer at one site through March 2009 – as much as a buying a five-bedroom, 2,000-square-foot home in Jackson, Miss., according to GAO." http://www.whas11.com/ext/news/natio...mMI4OaE0ikOiwO It's government. Even bottomless pockets will be picked. |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 22:45:54 -0400, J. Clarke
wrote: (2) If they don't own property then what the Hell are they supposed to be rebuilding? (hint, if your apartment is destroyed, is isn't _your_ responsibility to rebuild it). Actually some landlords are expecting rent from tenants in Houston apartments that are flood damaged and not livable. |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On 9/6/2017 12:12 AM, Markem wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 22:45:54 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: (2) If they don't own property then what the Hell are they supposed to be rebuilding? (hint, if your apartment is destroyed, is isn't _your_ responsibility to rebuild it). Actually some landlords are expecting rent from tenants in Houston apartments that are flood damaged and not livable. They still have a mortgage to pay. From what I red, the tenant can notify the landlord in writing if the apartment in not in livable condition and void the lease. While is seems sleazy, it may be legal thing so they can collect insurance. It would be sleazy to actually collect the rent though. |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On 9/5/2017 9:43 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:54:05 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 02-Sep-17 10:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Yep, $4000 grand and it's sitting on your lot, ready for you to move into. I guess they come with delivery. Water's hook up, sewer, electricity, all up to whatever lenient code the city allows during this stressful time. ... None of the above will be in the $4K except perhaps trailering to your location. It's not likely the city will allow one to put it on the lot even in these circumstances, though, altho it makes common sense that rarely has any place in government, particularly in code enforcement. I assume you realize that that was a sarcastic response to Clare's $4K housing solution. I sure wasn't being serious. I was. When my kid broyher's house burned down that's excatly what he did. He picked up an old RV and parked it in his yard untill the new house was built. Her used a camping sewer cart to take the effluent from the trailer to his septic tank. ...because he could afford to. Stoll lots of cheap RVs for sale in Florida - might not be something you want to park in a fancy trailrt park beside some guy's 2 million dollar rig - but it's dry, warm, and enclosed, with a kitchen and head. ...if you can afford to buy one, transport it, hook it up, etc. I have no argument with the practicality of using a trailer as temporary housing. My only issue, right from the start, is with those that make it sound like it's so cheap (and practical) that every displaced person in the Houston area should just do it. There's theory, then there's real life. $4K for you may not be a hardship, but $4K for a impoverished person might as well be $4MM. OTOH, an "impoverished person" wouldn't be parking an RV in his back yard while his home was being rebuilt. My point exactly. They wouldn't be parking an RV in their yard becasue they can't afford it. Some folks around here make it sound like it's the solution for all. Hey, if they can afford a minimal RV then they probably can't afford to rebuild the house either. How did they manage to pay for it to begin with? Maybe they are renting. Renters get FEMA compensation. |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On 9/6/2017 8:32 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 9/6/2017 12:12 AM, Markem wrote: On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 22:45:54 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: (2) If they don't own property then what the Hell are they supposed to be rebuilding?Â* (hint, if your apartment is destroyed, is isn't _your_ responsibility to rebuild it). Actually some landlords are expecting rent from tenants in Houston apartments that are flood damaged and not livable. They still have a mortgage to pay.Â* From what I red, the tenant can notify the landlord in writing if the apartment in not in livable condition and void the lease.Â* While is seems sleazy, it may beÂ* legal thing so they can collect insurance.Â* It would be sleazy to actually collect the rent though. You do not have to won property to qualify for housing assistance from FEMA. |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 22:45:54 -0400, J. Clarke
wrote: On Mon, 04 Sep 2017 20:25:51 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:54:05 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 02-Sep-17 10:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Yep, $4000 grand and it's sitting on your lot, ready for you to move into. I guess they come with delivery. Water's hook up, sewer, electricity, all up to whatever lenient code the city allows during this stressful time. ... None of the above will be in the $4K except perhaps trailering to your location. It's not likely the city will allow one to put it on the lot even in these circumstances, though, altho it makes common sense that rarely has any place in government, particularly in code enforcement. I assume you realize that that was a sarcastic response to Clare's $4K housing solution. I sure wasn't being serious. I was. When my kid broyher's house burned down that's excatly what he did. He picked up an old RV and parked it in his yard untill the new house was built. Her used a camping sewer cart to take the effluent from the trailer to his septic tank. ...because he could afford to. Stoll lots of cheap RVs for sale in Florida - might not be something you want to park in a fancy trailrt park beside some guy's 2 million dollar rig - but it's dry, warm, and enclosed, with a kitchen and head. ...if you can afford to buy one, transport it, hook it up, etc. I have no argument with the practicality of using a trailer as temporary housing. My only issue, right from the start, is with those that make it sound like it's so cheap (and practical) that every displaced person in the Houston area should just do it. There's theory, then there's real life. $4K for you may not be a hardship, but $4K for a impoverished person might as well be $4MM. OTOH, an "impoverished person" wouldn't be parking an RV in his back yard while his home was being rebuilt. My point exactly. They wouldn't be parking an RV in their yard becasue they can't afford it. Some folks around here make it sound like it's the solution for all. They have no back yard to park one in if they had the $4000. I don't believe the last sentence is true at all. I guess I have a higher regard for the folks here. (1) who said anything about "back yard", and why a yard at all? Haven't you people ever seen a driveway? Isn't that where the tradesmen park and where supplies for the rebuild are delivered? It probably wouldn't be a good idea to constantly be in their way. Perhaps you like someone living in the middle of your workspace, though. (2) If they don't own property then what the Hell are they supposed to be rebuilding? (hint, if your apartment is destroyed, is isn't _your_ responsibility to rebuild it). Duh! That was my point. Genius! |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On Wed, 06 Sep 2017 22:11:00 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 22:45:54 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: On Mon, 04 Sep 2017 20:25:51 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:54:05 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 02-Sep-17 10:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Yep, $4000 grand and it's sitting on your lot, ready for you to move into. I guess they come with delivery. Water's hook up, sewer, electricity, all up to whatever lenient code the city allows during this stressful time. ... None of the above will be in the $4K except perhaps trailering to your location. It's not likely the city will allow one to put it on the lot even in these circumstances, though, altho it makes common sense that rarely has any place in government, particularly in code enforcement. I assume you realize that that was a sarcastic response to Clare's $4K housing solution. I sure wasn't being serious. I was. When my kid broyher's house burned down that's excatly what he did. He picked up an old RV and parked it in his yard untill the new house was built. Her used a camping sewer cart to take the effluent from the trailer to his septic tank. ...because he could afford to. Stoll lots of cheap RVs for sale in Florida - might not be something you want to park in a fancy trailrt park beside some guy's 2 million dollar rig - but it's dry, warm, and enclosed, with a kitchen and head. ...if you can afford to buy one, transport it, hook it up, etc. I have no argument with the practicality of using a trailer as temporary housing. My only issue, right from the start, is with those that make it sound like it's so cheap (and practical) that every displaced person in the Houston area should just do it. There's theory, then there's real life. $4K for you may not be a hardship, but $4K for a impoverished person might as well be $4MM. OTOH, an "impoverished person" wouldn't be parking an RV in his back yard while his home was being rebuilt. My point exactly. They wouldn't be parking an RV in their yard becasue they can't afford it. Some folks around here make it sound like it's the solution for all. They have no back yard to park one in if they had the $4000. I don't believe the last sentence is true at all. I guess I have a higher regard for the folks here. (1) who said anything about "back yard", and why a yard at all? Haven't you people ever seen a driveway? Isn't that where the tradesmen park and where supplies for the rebuild are delivered? That's what the _yard_ is for. And the tradesmen park in the street. It probably wouldn't be a good idea to constantly be in their way. Perhaps you like someone living in the middle of your workspace, though. If you're in their way then start the damned thing up and drive off. You clearly don't grasp the conept of "RV". (2) If they don't own property then what the Hell are they supposed to be rebuilding? (hint, if your apartment is destroyed, is isn't _your_ responsibility to rebuild it). Duh! That was my point. Genius! No, your point was something about people who have houses but are too poor to obtain an RV. For people who don't have houses to begin with, rebuilding is not an issue. |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 09:44:10 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:
On 9/5/2017 9:43 PM, J. Clarke wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:54:05 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 02-Sep-17 10:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Yep, $4000 grand and it's sitting on your lot, ready for you to move into. I guess they come with delivery. Water's hook up, sewer, electricity, all up to whatever lenient code the city allows during this stressful time. ... None of the above will be in the $4K except perhaps trailering to your location. It's not likely the city will allow one to put it on the lot even in these circumstances, though, altho it makes common sense that rarely has any place in government, particularly in code enforcement. I assume you realize that that was a sarcastic response to Clare's $4K housing solution. I sure wasn't being serious. I was. When my kid broyher's house burned down that's excatly what he did. He picked up an old RV and parked it in his yard untill the new house was built. Her used a camping sewer cart to take the effluent from the trailer to his septic tank. ...because he could afford to. Stoll lots of cheap RVs for sale in Florida - might not be something you want to park in a fancy trailrt park beside some guy's 2 million dollar rig - but it's dry, warm, and enclosed, with a kitchen and head. ...if you can afford to buy one, transport it, hook it up, etc. I have no argument with the practicality of using a trailer as temporary housing. My only issue, right from the start, is with those that make it sound like it's so cheap (and practical) that every displaced person in the Houston area should just do it. There's theory, then there's real life. $4K for you may not be a hardship, but $4K for a impoverished person might as well be $4MM. OTOH, an "impoverished person" wouldn't be parking an RV in his back yard while his home was being rebuilt. My point exactly. They wouldn't be parking an RV in their yard becasue they can't afford it. Some folks around here make it sound like it's the solution for all. Hey, if they can afford a minimal RV then they probably can't afford to rebuild the house either. How did they manage to pay for it to begin with? Maybe they are renting. Renters get FEMA compensation. If they are renting then why do they need to rebuild the house? It isn't _their_ house. |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On 9/7/2017 9:19 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 09:44:10 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 9/5/2017 9:43 PM, J. Clarke wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:54:05 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 02-Sep-17 10:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Yep, $4000 grand and it's sitting on your lot, ready for you to move into. I guess they come with delivery. Water's hook up, sewer, electricity, all up to whatever lenient code the city allows during this stressful time. ... None of the above will be in the $4K except perhaps trailering to your location. It's not likely the city will allow one to put it on the lot even in these circumstances, though, altho it makes common sense that rarely has any place in government, particularly in code enforcement. I assume you realize that that was a sarcastic response to Clare's $4K housing solution. I sure wasn't being serious. I was. When my kid broyher's house burned down that's excatly what he did. He picked up an old RV and parked it in his yard untill the new house was built. Her used a camping sewer cart to take the effluent from the trailer to his septic tank. ...because he could afford to. Stoll lots of cheap RVs for sale in Florida - might not be something you want to park in a fancy trailrt park beside some guy's 2 million dollar rig - but it's dry, warm, and enclosed, with a kitchen and head. ...if you can afford to buy one, transport it, hook it up, etc. I have no argument with the practicality of using a trailer as temporary housing. My only issue, right from the start, is with those that make it sound like it's so cheap (and practical) that every displaced person in the Houston area should just do it. There's theory, then there's real life. $4K for you may not be a hardship, but $4K for a impoverished person might as well be $4MM. OTOH, an "impoverished person" wouldn't be parking an RV in his back yard while his home was being rebuilt. My point exactly. They wouldn't be parking an RV in their yard becasue they can't afford it. Some folks around here make it sound like it's the solution for all. Hey, if they can afford a minimal RV then they probably can't afford to rebuild the house either. How did they manage to pay for it to begin with? Maybe they are renting. Renters get FEMA compensation. If they are renting then why do they need to rebuild the house? It isn't _their_ house. UHhhh they have to live some where. you idiot. You must be one of the most miserable persons I have ever been exposed to. |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On Thu, 07 Sep 2017 22:19:27 -0400, J. Clarke
wrote: On Wed, 06 Sep 2017 22:11:00 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 22:45:54 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: On Mon, 04 Sep 2017 20:25:51 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:54:05 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 02-Sep-17 10:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Yep, $4000 grand and it's sitting on your lot, ready for you to move into. I guess they come with delivery. Water's hook up, sewer, electricity, all up to whatever lenient code the city allows during this stressful time. ... None of the above will be in the $4K except perhaps trailering to your location. It's not likely the city will allow one to put it on the lot even in these circumstances, though, altho it makes common sense that rarely has any place in government, particularly in code enforcement. I assume you realize that that was a sarcastic response to Clare's $4K housing solution. I sure wasn't being serious. I was. When my kid broyher's house burned down that's excatly what he did. He picked up an old RV and parked it in his yard untill the new house was built. Her used a camping sewer cart to take the effluent from the trailer to his septic tank. ...because he could afford to. Stoll lots of cheap RVs for sale in Florida - might not be something you want to park in a fancy trailrt park beside some guy's 2 million dollar rig - but it's dry, warm, and enclosed, with a kitchen and head. ...if you can afford to buy one, transport it, hook it up, etc. I have no argument with the practicality of using a trailer as temporary housing. My only issue, right from the start, is with those that make it sound like it's so cheap (and practical) that every displaced person in the Houston area should just do it. There's theory, then there's real life. $4K for you may not be a hardship, but $4K for a impoverished person might as well be $4MM. OTOH, an "impoverished person" wouldn't be parking an RV in his back yard while his home was being rebuilt. My point exactly. They wouldn't be parking an RV in their yard becasue they can't afford it. Some folks around here make it sound like it's the solution for all. They have no back yard to park one in if they had the $4000. I don't believe the last sentence is true at all. I guess I have a higher regard for the folks here. (1) who said anything about "back yard", and why a yard at all? Haven't you people ever seen a driveway? Isn't that where the tradesmen park and where supplies for the rebuild are delivered? That's what the _yard_ is for. And the tradesmen park in the street. Do you block your driveway when contractors show up? I sure don't. It probably wouldn't be a good idea to constantly be in their way. Perhaps you like someone living in the middle of your workspace, though. If you're in their way then start the damned thing up and drive off. You clearly don't grasp the conept of "RV". "RV" can also be a trailer. I don't imagine you could buy much of a class-A motor home for $4000. (2) If they don't own property then what the Hell are they supposed to be rebuilding? (hint, if your apartment is destroyed, is isn't _your_ responsibility to rebuild it). Duh! That was my point. Genius! No, your point was something about people who have houses but are too poor to obtain an RV. No, that certainly was *not* my point. I never said anything of the kind. For people who don't have houses to begin with, rebuilding is not an issue. Except that they have nowhere to live. |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 13:31:43 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:
On 9/7/2017 9:19 PM, J. Clarke wrote: On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 09:44:10 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 9/5/2017 9:43 PM, J. Clarke wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:54:05 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 02-Sep-17 10:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Yep, $4000 grand and it's sitting on your lot, ready for you to move into. I guess they come with delivery. Water's hook up, sewer, electricity, all up to whatever lenient code the city allows during this stressful time. ... None of the above will be in the $4K except perhaps trailering to your location. It's not likely the city will allow one to put it on the lot even in these circumstances, though, altho it makes common sense that rarely has any place in government, particularly in code enforcement. I assume you realize that that was a sarcastic response to Clare's $4K housing solution. I sure wasn't being serious. I was. When my kid broyher's house burned down that's excatly what he did. He picked up an old RV and parked it in his yard untill the new house was built. Her used a camping sewer cart to take the effluent from the trailer to his septic tank. ...because he could afford to. Stoll lots of cheap RVs for sale in Florida - might not be something you want to park in a fancy trailrt park beside some guy's 2 million dollar rig - but it's dry, warm, and enclosed, with a kitchen and head. ...if you can afford to buy one, transport it, hook it up, etc. I have no argument with the practicality of using a trailer as temporary housing. My only issue, right from the start, is with those that make it sound like it's so cheap (and practical) that every displaced person in the Houston area should just do it. There's theory, then there's real life. $4K for you may not be a hardship, but $4K for a impoverished person might as well be $4MM. OTOH, an "impoverished person" wouldn't be parking an RV in his back yard while his home was being rebuilt. My point exactly. They wouldn't be parking an RV in their yard becasue they can't afford it. Some folks around here make it sound like it's the solution for all. Hey, if they can afford a minimal RV then they probably can't afford to rebuild the house either. How did they manage to pay for it to begin with? Maybe they are renting. Renters get FEMA compensation. If they are renting then why do they need to rebuild the house? It isn't _their_ house. UHhhh they have to live some where. you idiot. You must be one of the most miserable persons I have ever been exposed to. Yes, they do. But they are not going to be rebuilding anything, they are going to be looking for another place to rent. That you don't grasp this and find it appropiate to call other people stupid when they don't just agree with you says that you are both immature and insecure. And once again I am bored with your bull**** so back into the killfile you go. |
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On 9/8/17 10:26 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 13:31:43 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 9/7/2017 9:19 PM, J. Clarke wrote: On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 09:44:10 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 9/5/2017 9:43 PM, J. Clarke wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:54:05 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 02-Sep-17 10:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Yep, $4000 grand and it's sitting on your lot, ready for you to move into. I guess they come with delivery. Water's hook up, sewer, electricity, all up to whatever lenient code the city allows during this stressful time. ... None of the above will be in the $4K except perhaps trailering to your location. It's not likely the city will allow one to put it on the lot even in these circumstances, though, altho it makes common sense that rarely has any place in government, particularly in code enforcement. I assume you realize that that was a sarcastic response to Clare's $4K housing solution. I sure wasn't being serious. I was. When my kid broyher's house burned down that's excatly what he did. He picked up an old RV and parked it in his yard untill the new house was built. Her used a camping sewer cart to take the effluent from the trailer to his septic tank. ...because he could afford to. Stoll lots of cheap RVs for sale in Florida - might not be something you want to park in a fancy trailrt park beside some guy's 2 million dollar rig - but it's dry, warm, and enclosed, with a kitchen and head. ...if you can afford to buy one, transport it, hook it up, etc. I have no argument with the practicality of using a trailer as temporary housing. My only issue, right from the start, is with those that make it sound like it's so cheap (and practical) that every displaced person in the Houston area should just do it. There's theory, then there's real life. $4K for you may not be a hardship, but $4K for a impoverished person might as well be $4MM. OTOH, an "impoverished person" wouldn't be parking an RV in his back yard while his home was being rebuilt. My point exactly. They wouldn't be parking an RV in their yard becasue they can't afford it. Some folks around here make it sound like it's the solution for all. Hey, if they can afford a minimal RV then they probably can't afford to rebuild the house either. How did they manage to pay for it to begin with? Maybe they are renting. Renters get FEMA compensation. If they are renting then why do they need to rebuild the house? It isn't _their_ house. UHhhh they have to live some where. you idiot. You must be one of the most miserable persons I have ever been exposed to. Yes, they do. But they are not going to be rebuilding anything, they are going to be looking for another place to rent. That you don't grasp this and find it appropiate to call other people stupid when they don't just agree with you says that you are both immature and insecure. And once again I am bored with your bull**** so back into the killfile you go. Grow the fu@k up. You were being argumentative, judgemental, and very unsympathetic. Killfile.... pffft. What grade are you in? -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- www.mikedrums.com |
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On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 23:28:01 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 22:58:55 -0400, wrote: SNIP "RV" can also be a trailer. I don't imagine you could buy much of a class-A motor home for $4000. Lots of Class C units adequate for emergency purposes for $4000 or less. With the vehicle? Nothing roadworthy, for sure. |
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On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 22:58:55 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Sep 2017 22:19:27 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: On Wed, 06 Sep 2017 22:11:00 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 22:45:54 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: On Mon, 04 Sep 2017 20:25:51 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:54:05 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 02-Sep-17 10:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Yep, $4000 grand and it's sitting on your lot, ready for you to move into. I guess they come with delivery. Water's hook up, sewer, electricity, all up to whatever lenient code the city allows during this stressful time. ... None of the above will be in the $4K except perhaps trailering to your location. It's not likely the city will allow one to put it on the lot even in these circumstances, though, altho it makes common sense that rarely has any place in government, particularly in code enforcement. I assume you realize that that was a sarcastic response to Clare's $4K housing solution. I sure wasn't being serious. I was. When my kid broyher's house burned down that's excatly what he did. He picked up an old RV and parked it in his yard untill the new house was built. Her used a camping sewer cart to take the effluent from the trailer to his septic tank. ...because he could afford to. Stoll lots of cheap RVs for sale in Florida - might not be something you want to park in a fancy trailrt park beside some guy's 2 million dollar rig - but it's dry, warm, and enclosed, with a kitchen and head. ...if you can afford to buy one, transport it, hook it up, etc. I have no argument with the practicality of using a trailer as temporary housing. My only issue, right from the start, is with those that make it sound like it's so cheap (and practical) that every displaced person in the Houston area should just do it. There's theory, then there's real life. $4K for you may not be a hardship, but $4K for a impoverished person might as well be $4MM. OTOH, an "impoverished person" wouldn't be parking an RV in his back yard while his home was being rebuilt. My point exactly. They wouldn't be parking an RV in their yard becasue they can't afford it. Some folks around here make it sound like it's the solution for all. They have no back yard to park one in if they had the $4000. I don't believe the last sentence is true at all. I guess I have a higher regard for the folks here. (1) who said anything about "back yard", and why a yard at all? Haven't you people ever seen a driveway? Isn't that where the tradesmen park and where supplies for the rebuild are delivered? That's what the _yard_ is for. And the tradesmen park in the street. Do you block your driveway when contractors show up? I sure don't. So you move your boat and your camping trailer into the street when workmen show up so they can park where those are normally kept? Most residential driveways don't have enough space for the entire crew that builds a house to park. It probably wouldn't be a good idea to constantly be in their way. Perhaps you like someone living in the middle of your workspace, though. If you're in their way then start the damned thing up and drive off. You clearly don't grasp the conept of "RV". "RV" can also be a trailer. I don't imagine you could buy much of a class-A motor home for $4000. So? Who said anything about "class A". You're looking for an alternative to a motel room, not an alternative to Versaiiles. (2) If they don't own property then what the Hell are they supposed to be rebuilding? (hint, if your apartment is destroyed, is isn't _your_ responsibility to rebuild it). Duh! That was my point. Genius! No, your point was something about people who have houses but are too poor to obtain an RV. No, that certainly was *not* my point. I never said anything of the kind. Then you should learn to write more clearly. For people who don't have houses to begin with, rebuilding is not an issue. Except that they have nowhere to live. Which has what to do with rebuilding a house that they do not own? Renters aren't tied to a particular property. They aren't going to rebuild the landlord's house for him and they don't have any need to live near a particular property while someone is building more rentals or rebuilding existing ones. If they have skills that are in demand they may just move somewhere else. After Katrina, a lot of people moved to Texas. Now they may move back to New Orleans. |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On Sat, 09 Sep 2017 08:41:22 -0400, J. Clarke
wrote: On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 22:58:55 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 07 Sep 2017 22:19:27 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: On Wed, 06 Sep 2017 22:11:00 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 22:45:54 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: On Mon, 04 Sep 2017 20:25:51 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:54:05 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 02-Sep-17 10:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Yep, $4000 grand and it's sitting on your lot, ready for you to move into. I guess they come with delivery. Water's hook up, sewer, electricity, all up to whatever lenient code the city allows during this stressful time. ... None of the above will be in the $4K except perhaps trailering to your location. It's not likely the city will allow one to put it on the lot even in these circumstances, though, altho it makes common sense that rarely has any place in government, particularly in code enforcement. I assume you realize that that was a sarcastic response to Clare's $4K housing solution. I sure wasn't being serious. I was. When my kid broyher's house burned down that's excatly what he did. He picked up an old RV and parked it in his yard untill the new house was built. Her used a camping sewer cart to take the effluent from the trailer to his septic tank. ...because he could afford to. Stoll lots of cheap RVs for sale in Florida - might not be something you want to park in a fancy trailrt park beside some guy's 2 million dollar rig - but it's dry, warm, and enclosed, with a kitchen and head. ...if you can afford to buy one, transport it, hook it up, etc. I have no argument with the practicality of using a trailer as temporary housing. My only issue, right from the start, is with those that make it sound like it's so cheap (and practical) that every displaced person in the Houston area should just do it. There's theory, then there's real life. $4K for you may not be a hardship, but $4K for a impoverished person might as well be $4MM. OTOH, an "impoverished person" wouldn't be parking an RV in his back yard while his home was being rebuilt. My point exactly. They wouldn't be parking an RV in their yard becasue they can't afford it. Some folks around here make it sound like it's the solution for all. They have no back yard to park one in if they had the $4000. I don't believe the last sentence is true at all. I guess I have a higher regard for the folks here. (1) who said anything about "back yard", and why a yard at all? Haven't you people ever seen a driveway? Isn't that where the tradesmen park and where supplies for the rebuild are delivered? That's what the _yard_ is for. And the tradesmen park in the street. Do you block your driveway when contractors show up? I sure don't. So you move your boat and your camping trailer into the street when workmen show up so they can park where those are normally kept? Most residential driveways don't have enough space for the entire crew that builds a house to park. Good Lord, you're dense. Nevermind. Argue with someone else about something. |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On Sat, 09 Sep 2017 08:29:20 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 23:28:01 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 22:58:55 -0400, wrote: SNIP "RV" can also be a trailer. I don't imagine you could buy much of a class-A motor home for $4000. Lots of Class C units adequate for emergency purposes for $4000 or less. With the vehicle? Nothing roadworthy, for sure. "With the vehicle"? A class C _is_ the vehicle. |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 22:31:35 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote: On 9/8/17 10:26 PM, J. Clarke wrote: On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 13:31:43 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 9/7/2017 9:19 PM, J. Clarke wrote: On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 09:44:10 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 9/5/2017 9:43 PM, J. Clarke wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:54:05 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 02-Sep-17 10:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Yep, $4000 grand and it's sitting on your lot, ready for you to move into. I guess they come with delivery. Water's hook up, sewer, electricity, all up to whatever lenient code the city allows during this stressful time. ... None of the above will be in the $4K except perhaps trailering to your location. It's not likely the city will allow one to put it on the lot even in these circumstances, though, altho it makes common sense that rarely has any place in government, particularly in code enforcement. I assume you realize that that was a sarcastic response to Clare's $4K housing solution. I sure wasn't being serious. I was. When my kid broyher's house burned down that's excatly what he did. He picked up an old RV and parked it in his yard untill the new house was built. Her used a camping sewer cart to take the effluent from the trailer to his septic tank. ...because he could afford to. Stoll lots of cheap RVs for sale in Florida - might not be something you want to park in a fancy trailrt park beside some guy's 2 million dollar rig - but it's dry, warm, and enclosed, with a kitchen and head. ...if you can afford to buy one, transport it, hook it up, etc. I have no argument with the practicality of using a trailer as temporary housing. My only issue, right from the start, is with those that make it sound like it's so cheap (and practical) that every displaced person in the Houston area should just do it. There's theory, then there's real life. $4K for you may not be a hardship, but $4K for a impoverished person might as well be $4MM. OTOH, an "impoverished person" wouldn't be parking an RV in his back yard while his home was being rebuilt. My point exactly. They wouldn't be parking an RV in their yard becasue they can't afford it. Some folks around here make it sound like it's the solution for all. Hey, if they can afford a minimal RV then they probably can't afford to rebuild the house either. How did they manage to pay for it to begin with? Maybe they are renting. Renters get FEMA compensation. If they are renting then why do they need to rebuild the house? It isn't _their_ house. UHhhh they have to live some where. you idiot. You must be one of the most miserable persons I have ever been exposed to. Yes, they do. But they are not going to be rebuilding anything, they are going to be looking for another place to rent. That you don't grasp this and find it appropiate to call other people stupid when they don't just agree with you says that you are both immature and insecure. And once again I am bored with your bull**** so back into the killfile you go. Grow the fu@k up. You were being argumentative, judgemental, and very unsympathetic. Killfile.... pffft. What grade are you in? plonk |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On Sat, 09 Sep 2017 08:46:44 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 09 Sep 2017 08:41:22 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 22:58:55 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 07 Sep 2017 22:19:27 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: On Wed, 06 Sep 2017 22:11:00 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 22:45:54 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: On Mon, 04 Sep 2017 20:25:51 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:54:05 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 02-Sep-17 10:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Yep, $4000 grand and it's sitting on your lot, ready for you to move into. I guess they come with delivery. Water's hook up, sewer, electricity, all up to whatever lenient code the city allows during this stressful time. ... None of the above will be in the $4K except perhaps trailering to your location. It's not likely the city will allow one to put it on the lot even in these circumstances, though, altho it makes common sense that rarely has any place in government, particularly in code enforcement. I assume you realize that that was a sarcastic response to Clare's $4K housing solution. I sure wasn't being serious. I was. When my kid broyher's house burned down that's excatly what he did. He picked up an old RV and parked it in his yard untill the new house was built. Her used a camping sewer cart to take the effluent from the trailer to his septic tank. ...because he could afford to. Stoll lots of cheap RVs for sale in Florida - might not be something you want to park in a fancy trailrt park beside some guy's 2 million dollar rig - but it's dry, warm, and enclosed, with a kitchen and head. ...if you can afford to buy one, transport it, hook it up, etc. I have no argument with the practicality of using a trailer as temporary housing. My only issue, right from the start, is with those that make it sound like it's so cheap (and practical) that every displaced person in the Houston area should just do it. There's theory, then there's real life. $4K for you may not be a hardship, but $4K for a impoverished person might as well be $4MM. OTOH, an "impoverished person" wouldn't be parking an RV in his back yard while his home was being rebuilt. My point exactly. They wouldn't be parking an RV in their yard becasue they can't afford it. Some folks around here make it sound like it's the solution for all. They have no back yard to park one in if they had the $4000. I don't believe the last sentence is true at all. I guess I have a higher regard for the folks here. (1) who said anything about "back yard", and why a yard at all? Haven't you people ever seen a driveway? Isn't that where the tradesmen park and where supplies for the rebuild are delivered? That's what the _yard_ is for. And the tradesmen park in the street. Do you block your driveway when contractors show up? I sure don't. So you move your boat and your camping trailer into the street when workmen show up so they can park where those are normally kept? Most residential driveways don't have enough space for the entire crew that builds a house to park. Good Lord, you're dense. Nevermind. Argue with someone else about something. Hey, you're the one coming up with lame arguments why somebody can't live in an RV for a while while their house is being repaired. I'm just pointing out that they're lame. |
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On Sat, 09 Sep 2017 08:29:20 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 23:28:01 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 22:58:55 -0400, wrote: SNIP "RV" can also be a trailer. I don't imagine you could buy much of a class-A motor home for $4000. Lots of Class C units adequate for emergency purposes for $4000 or less. With the vehicle? Nothing roadworthy, for sure. Actually yes.Complete and driveable. Might not pass any safety inspectiom, but as I said - adequate for emergency use. Even if you scrap it after 3 months it's cheaper than a motel. Also some old Class A units - with big gas guzzling V8 engines and even a few old bus conversions. Something I'd travel accross the continent with? Definitely not - but something to keep you warm and dry, and secure - most definitely. With working appliances even, so you can cook meals and keep the beer cold. |
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On Sat, 09 Sep 2017 08:41:22 -0400, J. Clarke
wrote: On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 22:58:55 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 07 Sep 2017 22:19:27 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: On Wed, 06 Sep 2017 22:11:00 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 22:45:54 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: On Mon, 04 Sep 2017 20:25:51 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:54:05 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 02-Sep-17 10:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Yep, $4000 grand and it's sitting on your lot, ready for you to move into. I guess they come with delivery. Water's hook up, sewer, electricity, all up to whatever lenient code the city allows during this stressful time. ... None of the above will be in the $4K except perhaps trailering to your location. It's not likely the city will allow one to put it on the lot even in these circumstances, though, altho it makes common sense that rarely has any place in government, particularly in code enforcement. I assume you realize that that was a sarcastic response to Clare's $4K housing solution. I sure wasn't being serious. I was. When my kid broyher's house burned down that's excatly what he did. He picked up an old RV and parked it in his yard untill the new house was built. Her used a camping sewer cart to take the effluent from the trailer to his septic tank. ...because he could afford to. Stoll lots of cheap RVs for sale in Florida - might not be something you want to park in a fancy trailrt park beside some guy's 2 million dollar rig - but it's dry, warm, and enclosed, with a kitchen and head. ...if you can afford to buy one, transport it, hook it up, etc. I have no argument with the practicality of using a trailer as temporary housing. My only issue, right from the start, is with those that make it sound like it's so cheap (and practical) that every displaced person in the Houston area should just do it. There's theory, then there's real life. $4K for you may not be a hardship, but $4K for a impoverished person might as well be $4MM. OTOH, an "impoverished person" wouldn't be parking an RV in his back yard while his home was being rebuilt. My point exactly. They wouldn't be parking an RV in their yard becasue they can't afford it. Some folks around here make it sound like it's the solution for all. They have no back yard to park one in if they had the $4000. I don't believe the last sentence is true at all. I guess I have a higher regard for the folks here. (1) who said anything about "back yard", and why a yard at all? Haven't you people ever seen a driveway? Isn't that where the tradesmen park and where supplies for the rebuild are delivered? That's what the _yard_ is for. And the tradesmen park in the street. Do you block your driveway when contractors show up? I sure don't. So you move your boat and your camping trailer into the street when workmen show up so they can park where those are normally kept? Most residential driveways don't have enough space for the entire crew that builds a house to park. It probably wouldn't be a good idea to constantly be in their way. Perhaps you like someone living in the middle of your workspace, though. If you're in their way then start the damned thing up and drive off. You clearly don't grasp the conept of "RV". "RV" can also be a trailer. I don't imagine you could buy much of a class-A motor home for $4000. So? Who said anything about "class A". You're looking for an alternative to a motel room, not an alternative to Versaiiles. (2) If they don't own property then what the Hell are they supposed to be rebuilding? (hint, if your apartment is destroyed, is isn't _your_ responsibility to rebuild it). Duh! That was my point. Genius! No, your point was something about people who have houses but are too poor to obtain an RV. No, that certainly was *not* my point. I never said anything of the kind. Then you should learn to write more clearly. For people who don't have houses to begin with, rebuilding is not an issue. Except that they have nowhere to live. Which has what to do with rebuilding a house that they do not own? Renters aren't tied to a particular property. They aren't going to rebuild the landlord's house for him and they don't have any need to live near a particular property while someone is building more rentals or rebuilding existing ones. If they have skills that are in demand they may just move somewhere else. After Katrina, a lot of people moved to Texas. Now they may move back to New Orleans. Or if they are smart somewhere where Hurricaines are not an everyday fact of life - and forget Kansas or Oklahoma where Tornadows can be just as bad. For the "poor" - retired, unemployed or on welfare there is nothing stopping them from movng to somewhere where housing is cheap and jobs are scarce. Detroit mabee?? |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On Sat, 09 Sep 2017 09:04:17 -0400, J. Clarke
wrote: On Sat, 09 Sep 2017 08:46:44 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 09 Sep 2017 08:41:22 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 22:58:55 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 07 Sep 2017 22:19:27 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: On Wed, 06 Sep 2017 22:11:00 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 22:45:54 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: On Mon, 04 Sep 2017 20:25:51 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:54:05 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 02-Sep-17 10:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Yep, $4000 grand and it's sitting on your lot, ready for you to move into. I guess they come with delivery. Water's hook up, sewer, electricity, all up to whatever lenient code the city allows during this stressful time. ... None of the above will be in the $4K except perhaps trailering to your location. It's not likely the city will allow one to put it on the lot even in these circumstances, though, altho it makes common sense that rarely has any place in government, particularly in code enforcement. I assume you realize that that was a sarcastic response to Clare's $4K housing solution. I sure wasn't being serious. I was. When my kid broyher's house burned down that's excatly what he did. He picked up an old RV and parked it in his yard untill the new house was built. Her used a camping sewer cart to take the effluent from the trailer to his septic tank. ...because he could afford to. Stoll lots of cheap RVs for sale in Florida - might not be something you want to park in a fancy trailrt park beside some guy's 2 million dollar rig - but it's dry, warm, and enclosed, with a kitchen and head. ...if you can afford to buy one, transport it, hook it up, etc. I have no argument with the practicality of using a trailer as temporary housing. My only issue, right from the start, is with those that make it sound like it's so cheap (and practical) that every displaced person in the Houston area should just do it. There's theory, then there's real life. $4K for you may not be a hardship, but $4K for a impoverished person might as well be $4MM. OTOH, an "impoverished person" wouldn't be parking an RV in his back yard while his home was being rebuilt. My point exactly. They wouldn't be parking an RV in their yard becasue they can't afford it. Some folks around here make it sound like it's the solution for all. They have no back yard to park one in if they had the $4000. I don't believe the last sentence is true at all. I guess I have a higher regard for the folks here. (1) who said anything about "back yard", and why a yard at all? Haven't you people ever seen a driveway? Isn't that where the tradesmen park and where supplies for the rebuild are delivered? That's what the _yard_ is for. And the tradesmen park in the street. Do you block your driveway when contractors show up? I sure don't. So you move your boat and your camping trailer into the street when workmen show up so they can park where those are normally kept? Most residential driveways don't have enough space for the entire crew that builds a house to park. Good Lord, you're dense. Nevermind. Argue with someone else about something. Hey, you're the one coming up with lame arguments why somebody can't live in an RV for a while while their house is being repaired. I'm just pointing out that they're lame. Even a slide-in pickup camper would do the job - and you DO NOT need to own the truck. Just chain it down well!!. |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On 9/9/17 7:48 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 22:31:35 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: On 9/8/17 10:26 PM, J. Clarke wrote: On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 13:31:43 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 9/7/2017 9:19 PM, J. Clarke wrote: On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 09:44:10 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 9/5/2017 9:43 PM, J. Clarke wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:54:05 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 02-Sep-17 10:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Yep, $4000 grand and it's sitting on your lot, ready for you to move into. I guess they come with delivery. Water's hook up, sewer, electricity, all up to whatever lenient code the city allows during this stressful time. ... None of the above will be in the $4K except perhaps trailering to your location. It's not likely the city will allow one to put it on the lot even in these circumstances, though, altho it makes common sense that rarely has any place in government, particularly in code enforcement. I assume you realize that that was a sarcastic response to Clare's $4K housing solution. I sure wasn't being serious. I was. When my kid broyher's house burned down that's excatly what he did. He picked up an old RV and parked it in his yard untill the new house was built. Her used a camping sewer cart to take the effluent from the trailer to his septic tank. ...because he could afford to. Stoll lots of cheap RVs for sale in Florida - might not be something you want to park in a fancy trailrt park beside some guy's 2 million dollar rig - but it's dry, warm, and enclosed, with a kitchen and head. ...if you can afford to buy one, transport it, hook it up, etc. I have no argument with the practicality of using a trailer as temporary housing. My only issue, right from the start, is with those that make it sound like it's so cheap (and practical) that every displaced person in the Houston area should just do it. There's theory, then there's real life. $4K for you may not be a hardship, but $4K for a impoverished person might as well be $4MM. OTOH, an "impoverished person" wouldn't be parking an RV in his back yard while his home was being rebuilt. My point exactly. They wouldn't be parking an RV in their yard becasue they can't afford it. Some folks around here make it sound like it's the solution for all. Hey, if they can afford a minimal RV then they probably can't afford to rebuild the house either. How did they manage to pay for it to begin with? Maybe they are renting. Renters get FEMA compensation. If they are renting then why do they need to rebuild the house? It isn't _their_ house. UHhhh they have to live some where. you idiot. You must be one of the most miserable persons I have ever been exposed to. Yes, they do. But they are not going to be rebuilding anything, they are going to be looking for another place to rent. That you don't grasp this and find it appropiate to call other people stupid when they don't just agree with you says that you are both immature and insecure. And once again I am bored with your bull**** so back into the killfile you go. Grow the fu@k up. You were being argumentative, judgemental, and very unsympathetic. Killfile.... pffft. What grade are you in? plonk So 5th grade, ok. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- www.mikedrums.com |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On 9/8/2017 10:31 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 9/8/17 10:26 PM, J. Clarke wrote: On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 13:31:43 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 9/7/2017 9:19 PM, J. Clarke wrote: On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 09:44:10 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 9/5/2017 9:43 PM, J. Clarke wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:54:05 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 02-Sep-17 10:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Yep, $4000 grand and it's sitting on your lot, ready for you to move into. I guess they come with delivery.Â* Water's hook up, sewer, electricity, all up to whatever lenient code the city allows during this stressful time. ... None of the above will be in the $4K except perhaps trailering to your location.Â* It's not likely the city will allow one to put it on the lot even in these circumstances, though, altho it makes common sense that rarely has any place in government, particularly in code enforcement. I assume you realize that that was a sarcastic response to Clare's $4K housing solution. I sure wasn't being serious. Â*Â*Â* I was. Â*Â*Â* When my kid broyher's house burned down that's excatly what he did. He picked up an old RV and parked it in his yard untill the new house was built. Her used a camping sewer cart to take the effluent from the trailer to his septic tank. ...because he could afford to. Â*Â*Â* Stoll lots of cheap RVs for sale in Florida - might not be something you want to park in a fancy trailrt park beside some guy's 2 million dollar rig - but it's dry, warm, and enclosed, with a kitchen and head. ...if you can afford to buy one, transport it, hook it up, etc. I have no argument with the practicality of using a trailer as temporary housing. My only issue, right from the start, is with those that make it sound like it's so cheap (and practical) that every displaced person in the Houston area should just do it. There's theory, then there's real life. $4K for you may not be a hardship, but $4K for a impoverished person might as well be $4MM. OTOH, an "impoverished person" wouldn't be parking an RV in his back yard while his home was being rebuilt. My point exactly. They wouldn't be parking an RV in their yard becasue they can't afford it. Some folks around here make it sound like it's the solution for all. Hey, if they can afford a minimal RV then they probably can't afford to rebuild the house either. How did they manage to pay for it to begin with? Maybe they are renting.Â* Renters get FEMA compensation. If they are renting then why do they need to rebuild the house?Â* It isn't _their_ house. UHhhh they have to live some where. you idiot.Â* You must be one of the most miserable persons I have ever been exposed to. Yes, they do.Â* But they are not going to be rebuilding anything, they are going to be looking for another place to rent. That you don't grasp this and find it appropiate to call other people stupid when they don't just agree with you says that you are both immature and insecure. And once again I am bored with your bull**** so back into the killfile you go. Grow the fu@k up. You were being argumentative, judgemental, and very unsympathetic. Killfile.... pffft.Â*Â* What grade are you in? He is in the Turd grade |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On 9/9/2017 9:02 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 9/9/17 7:48 AM, J. Clarke wrote: On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 22:31:35 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: On 9/8/17 10:26 PM, J. Clarke wrote: On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 13:31:43 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 9/7/2017 9:19 PM, J. Clarke wrote: On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 09:44:10 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 9/5/2017 9:43 PM, J. Clarke wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:36:16 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:54:05 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 02-Sep-17 10:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Yep, $4000 grand and it's sitting on your lot, ready for you to move into. I guess they come with delivery.Â* Water's hook up, sewer, electricity, all up to whatever lenient code the city allows during this stressful time. ... None of the above will be in the $4K except perhaps trailering to your location.Â* It's not likely the city will allow one to put it on the lot even in these circumstances, though, altho it makes common sense that rarely has any place in government, particularly in code enforcement. I assume you realize that that was a sarcastic response to Clare's $4K housing solution. I sure wasn't being serious. Â*Â*Â*Â* I was. Â*Â*Â*Â* When my kid broyher's house burned down that's excatly what he did. He picked up an old RV and parked it in his yard untill the new house was built. Her used a camping sewer cart to take the effluent from the trailer to his septic tank. ...because he could afford to. Â*Â*Â*Â* Stoll lots of cheap RVs for sale in Florida - might not be something you want to park in a fancy trailrt park beside some guy's 2 million dollar rig - but it's dry, warm, and enclosed, with a kitchen and head. ...if you can afford to buy one, transport it, hook it up, etc. I have no argument with the practicality of using a trailer as temporary housing. My only issue, right from the start, is with those that make it sound like it's so cheap (and practical) that every displaced person in the Houston area should just do it. There's theory, then there's real life. $4K for you may not be a hardship, but $4K for a impoverished person might as well be $4MM. OTOH, an "impoverished person" wouldn't be parking an RV in his back yard while his home was being rebuilt. My point exactly. They wouldn't be parking an RV in their yard becasue they can't afford it. Some folks around here make it sound like it's the solution for all. Hey, if they can afford a minimal RV then they probably can't afford to rebuild the house either. How did they manage to pay for it to begin with? Maybe they are renting.Â* Renters get FEMA compensation. If they are renting then why do they need to rebuild the house?Â* It isn't _their_ house. UHhhh they have to live some where. you idiot.Â* You must be one of the most miserable persons I have ever been exposed to. Yes, they do.Â* But they are not going to be rebuilding anything, they are going to be looking for another place to rent. That you don't grasp this and find it appropiate to call other people stupid when they don't just agree with you says that you are both immature and insecure. And once again I am bored with your bull**** so back into the killfile you go. Grow the fu@k up. You were being argumentative, judgemental, and very unsympathetic. Killfile.... pffft.Â*Â* What grade are you in? plonk So 5th grade, ok. I think he kill filed every one. Good, he is gone. |
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4ax.com: Actually yes.Complete and driveable. Might not pass any safety inspectiom, but as I said - adequate for emergency use. Even if you scrap it after 3 months it's cheaper than a motel. Also some old Class A units - with big gas guzzling V8 engines and even a few old bus conversions. Something I'd travel accross the continent with? Definitely not - but something to keep you warm and dry, and secure - most definitely. With working appliances even, so you can cook meals and keep the beer cold. One thing I've wondered about... Couldn't a reasonable place to stay for a family be built in a 20' container? They're stackable, so you could load a stack train up and unload in an empty parking lot. Instant temporary apartment complex, good for a month or so for things to get going again. They're supposed to be small and cramped, you don't want people thinking they're going to live there for any length of time. Shoot, weld down the beds and everything but the chairs for "transportation reasons" but also to keep people from moving stuff out to move stuff in. Puckdropper -- http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst! |
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On 10 Sep 2017 02:15:47 GMT, Puckdropper
puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: wrote in news:asq7rclt5c1mf4brd2gu4j5m5jkfpslfpc@ 4ax.com: Actually yes.Complete and driveable. Might not pass any safety inspectiom, but as I said - adequate for emergency use. Even if you scrap it after 3 months it's cheaper than a motel. Also some old Class A units - with big gas guzzling V8 engines and even a few old bus conversions. Something I'd travel accross the continent with? Definitely not - but something to keep you warm and dry, and secure - most definitely. With working appliances even, so you can cook meals and keep the beer cold. One thing I've wondered about... Couldn't a reasonable place to stay for a family be built in a 20' container? They're stackable, so you could load a stack train up and unload in an empty parking lot. Instant temporary apartment complex, good for a month or so for things to get going again. They're supposed to be small and cramped, you don't want people thinking they're going to live there for any length of time. Shoot, weld down the beds and everything but the chairs for "transportation reasons" but also to keep people from moving stuff out to move stuff in. If we're being creative how about something like a section of a Japanese "capsule" hotel built into a container. Not sure how many people you could fit into ond that way but it's dense and cheap and more private than a barracks. |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 10:15:52 PM UTC-4, wrote:
wrote in news:asq7rclt5c1mf4brd2gu4j5m5jkfpslfpc@ 4ax.com: Actually yes.Complete and driveable. Might not pass any safety inspectiom, but as I said - adequate for emergency use. Even if you scrap it after 3 months it's cheaper than a motel. Also some old Class A units - with big gas guzzling V8 engines and even a few old bus conversions. Something I'd travel accross the continent with? Definitely not - but something to keep you warm and dry, and secure - most definitely. With working appliances even, so you can cook meals and keep the beer cold. One thing I've wondered about... Couldn't a reasonable place to stay for a family be built in a 20' container? They're stackable, so you could load a stack train up and unload in an empty parking lot. Assuming the parking lot is right by the tracks and that the unloading equipment can be set up/used on-site. If not, add a transportation step to the set-up process. Instant temporary apartment complex, good for a month or so for things to get going again. A month or so isn't going to be enough. It'll take a lot longer than that to set up long term temporary housing. They're supposed to be small and cramped, you don't want people thinking they're going to live there for any length of time. Shoot, weld down the beds and everything but the chairs for "transportation reasons" but also to keep people from moving stuff out to move stuff in. Ventilation could be an issue. You need windows, fans, heaters, etc. Heck, FEMA got screwed on trailers that were designed to be lived in. Imagine all the issues with housing people in converted shipping containers. The lawyers are already salivating. Besides, the gathering of the containers and beds, the cleaning, the welding, the set-up etc. all take the "instant" part out of the equation. |
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 10:15:52 PM UTC-4, wrote: wrote in news:asq7rclt5c1mf4brd2gu4j5m5jkfpslfpc@ 4ax.com: Actually yes.Complete and driveable. Might not pass any safety inspectiom, but as I said - adequate for emergency use. Even if you scrap it after 3 months it's cheaper than a motel. Also some old Class A units - with big gas guzzling V8 engines and even a few old bus conversions. Something I'd travel accross the continent with? Definitely not - but something to keep you warm and dry, and secure - most definitely. With working appliances even, so you can cook meals and keep the beer cold. One thing I've wondered about... Couldn't a reasonable place to stay for a family be built in a 20' container? They're stackable, so you could load a stack train up and unload in an empty parking lot. Assuming the parking lot is right by the tracks and that the unloading equipment can be set up/used on-site. If not, add a transportation step to the set-up process. Instant temporary apartment complex, good for a month or so for things to get going again. A month or so isn't going to be enough. It'll take a lot longer than that to set up long term temporary housing. They're supposed to be small and cramped, you don't want people thinking they're going to live there for any length of time. Shoot, weld down the beds and everything but the chairs for "transportation reasons" but also to keep people from moving stuff out to move stuff in. Ventilation could be an issue. You need windows, fans, heaters, etc. Heck, FEMA got screwed on trailers that were designed to be lived in. Imagine all the issues with housing people in converted shipping containers. The lawyers are already salivating. Besides, the gathering of the containers and beds, the cleaning, the welding, the set-up etc. all take the "instant" part out of the equation. PODS® https://www.pods.com/container-sizes http://us.exaude.com/wp-content/uplo.../02/pods-3.jpg https://tours.360wichita.com/3868/sl...7/delivery.jpg |
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2017 06:12:47 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 10:15:52 PM UTC-4, wrote: wrote in news:asq7rclt5c1mf4brd2gu4j5m5jkfpslfpc@ 4ax.com: Actually yes.Complete and driveable. Might not pass any safety inspectiom, but as I said - adequate for emergency use. Even if you scrap it after 3 months it's cheaper than a motel. Also some old Class A units - with big gas guzzling V8 engines and even a few old bus conversions. Something I'd travel accross the continent with? Definitely not - but something to keep you warm and dry, and secure - most definitely. With working appliances even, so you can cook meals and keep the beer cold. One thing I've wondered about... Couldn't a reasonable place to stay for a family be built in a 20' container? They're stackable, so you could load a stack train up and unload in an empty parking lot. Assuming the parking lot is right by the tracks and that the unloading equipment can be set up/used on-site. If not, add a transportation step to the set-up process. It was talked about post-Katrina but never went anywhere. I think it would be a good idea. The "housing" could be stored for the next emergency, unless they couldn't keep critters out of them (don't know). They wouldn't be of much use if they were rodent infested when they were needed. Cleaning after might be a problem, too. In an emergency, it should be possible to find some space next to a rail line. Instant temporary apartment complex, good for a month or so for things to get going again. A month or so isn't going to be enough. It'll take a lot longer than that to set up long term temporary housing. They're supposed to be small and cramped, you don't want people thinking they're going to live there for any length of time. Shoot, weld down the beds and everything but the chairs for "transportation reasons" but also to keep people from moving stuff out to move stuff in. Ventilation could be an issue. You need windows, fans, heaters, etc. Heck, FEMA got screwed on trailers that were designed to be lived in. Imagine all the issues with housing people in converted shipping containers. The lawyers are already salivating. The difference is that there would be time to plan. That said, the government isn't good at planning. Besides, the gathering of the containers and beds, the cleaning, the welding, the set-up etc. all take the "instant" part out of the equation. I was thinking more of an advanced project. Make 10K of them and store them around the country on military bases, or some such. |
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On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 10:27:31 AM UTC-4, Spalted Walt wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote: On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 10:15:52 PM UTC-4, wrote: wrote in news:asq7rclt5c1mf4brd2gu4j5m5jkfpslfpc@ 4ax.com: Actually yes.Complete and driveable. Might not pass any safety inspectiom, but as I said - adequate for emergency use. Even if you scrap it after 3 months it's cheaper than a motel. Also some old Class A units - with big gas guzzling V8 engines and even a few old bus conversions. Something I'd travel accross the continent with? Definitely not - but something to keep you warm and dry, and secure - most definitely. With working appliances even, so you can cook meals and keep the beer cold. One thing I've wondered about... Couldn't a reasonable place to stay for a family be built in a 20' container? They're stackable, so you could load a stack train up and unload in an empty parking lot. Assuming the parking lot is right by the tracks and that the unloading equipment can be set up/used on-site. If not, add a transportation step to the set-up process. Instant temporary apartment complex, good for a month or so for things to get going again. A month or so isn't going to be enough. It'll take a lot longer than that to set up long term temporary housing. They're supposed to be small and cramped, you don't want people thinking they're going to live there for any length of time. Shoot, weld down the beds and everything but the chairs for "transportation reasons" but also to keep people from moving stuff out to move stuff in. Ventilation could be an issue. You need windows, fans, heaters, etc. Heck, FEMA got screwed on trailers that were designed to be lived in. Imagine all the issues with housing people in converted shipping containers. The lawyers are already salivating. Besides, the gathering of the containers and beds, the cleaning, the welding, the set-up etc. all take the "instant" part out of the equation. PODS® https://www.pods.com/container-sizes http://us.exaude.com/wp-content/uplo.../02/pods-3.jpg https://tours.360wichita.com/3868/sl...7/delivery.jpg Nice pictures. Is there a reason that you posted them? |
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DerbyDad03 wrote in
: On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 10:15:52 PM UTC-4, wrote: One thing I've wondered about... Couldn't a reasonable place to stay for a family be built in a 20' container? They're stackable, so you could load a stack train up and unload in an empty parking lot. Assuming the parking lot is right by the tracks and that the unloading equipment can be set up/used on-site. If not, add a transportation step to the set-up process. Right, but 2-3 semis with a pair of containers each could probably have 10-20 containers set up in a day. Instant temporary apartment complex, good for a month or so for things to get going again. A month or so isn't going to be enough. It'll take a lot longer than that to set up long term temporary housing. How long do you recon? They're supposed to be small and cramped, you don't want people thinking they're going to live there for any length of time. Shoot, weld down the beds and everything but the chairs for "transportation reasons" but also to keep people from moving stuff out to move stuff in. Ventilation could be an issue. You need windows, fans, heaters, etc. Heck, FEMA got screwed on trailers that were designed to be lived in. Imagine all the issues with housing people in converted shipping containers. The lawyers are already salivating. Besides, the gathering of the containers and beds, the cleaning, the welding, the set-up etc. all take the "instant" part out of the equation. Good point about the ventilation. That kind of stuff would cut into the living space severely. There's also the little matter of waste extraction. Puckdropper -- http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst! |
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Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com writes:
DerbyDad03 wrote in : On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 10:15:52 PM UTC-4, wrote: One thing I've wondered about... Couldn't a reasonable place to stay for a family be built in a 20' container? They're stackable, so you could load a stack train up and unload in an empty parking lot. Assuming the parking lot is right by the tracks and that the unloading equipment can be set up/used on-site. If not, add a transportation step to the set-up process. Right, but 2-3 semis with a pair of containers each could probably have 10-20 containers set up in a day. Have you ever been _in_ a container? 20' by 6' is what, about 120 square feet? No Windows, door hardware only on the exterior. No plumbing, No electricity. Instant temporary apartment complex, good for a month or so for things to get going again. A month or so isn't going to be enough. It'll take a lot longer than that to set up long term temporary housing. How long do you recon? Ah Reckon... |
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The Houston Gang An update 8/30
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 15:31:03 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com writes: DerbyDad03 wrote in : On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 10:15:52 PM UTC-4, wrote: One thing I've wondered about... Couldn't a reasonable place to stay for a family be built in a 20' container? They're stackable, so you could load a stack train up and unload in an empty parking lot. Assuming the parking lot is right by the tracks and that the unloading equipment can be set up/used on-site. If not, add a transportation step to the set-up process. Right, but 2-3 semis with a pair of containers each could probably have 10-20 containers set up in a day. Have you ever been _in_ a container? 20' by 6' is what, about 120 square feet? No Windows, door hardware only on the exterior. No plumbing, No electricity. Yeah, just sleep in the street. Where, above, was that stated? You wouldn't be perceived as such a jerk if you would stop with the strawmen. 120ft^2 isn't enough shelter. It's *insulting*. I note that you don't have a problem with no plumbing or ventilation in the deep south in late summer. |
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