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Electric Comet January 30th 17 06:51 PM

table saw sleds
 

seems that everyone uses a sled on their ts

well at least in the videos i have watched

i like the idea and so i am making one or maybe two


if you have a sled do you use the same one for dados or do you have
two sleds

small shop and do not want two sleds

thinking of devising an insert so that i have one sled with two inserts

anyone done this

what else is there to know about making the sled

steel versus wood runners

like the idea of steel runners but wood may work fine too
metalsupermarkets.com had some cold rolled that would work


my ts has t slots but the sled runners probably should not lock into
the slots as they might get caught up










Bob La Londe[_7_] January 31st 17 10:21 PM

table saw sleds
 
"Electric Comet" wrote in message
...

seems that everyone uses a sled on their ts

well at least in the videos i have watched

i like the idea and so i am making one or maybe two


if you have a sled do you use the same one for dados or do you have
two sleds

small shop and do not want two sleds

thinking of devising an insert so that i have one sled with two inserts

anyone done this

what else is there to know about making the sled

steel versus wood runners

like the idea of steel runners but wood may work fine too
metalsupermarkets.com had some cold rolled that would work


my ts has t slots but the sled runners probably should not lock into
the slots as they might get caught up


I've had my TS for better than a decade and I don't have a sled on it. That
being said, probably the best place to see different options and determine
what you want or maybe more than one is YouTube. Lots of great videos and
maybe a scary one or two.





Leon[_7_] January 31st 17 11:22 PM

table saw sleds
 
On 1/31/2017 4:21 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
"Electric Comet" wrote in message
...

seems that everyone uses a sled on their ts

well at least in the videos i have watched

i like the idea and so i am making one or maybe two


if you have a sled do you use the same one for dados or do you have
two sleds


I Never use a sled with when cutting a dado. That said IIRC you bought
a 6" dado set. How deep do you think you can cut if you use a sled?

I do have a left and right Dubby sled and have used them extensively
over the past 18 years.


small shop and do not want two sleds


A left and right side sled is handy if you are cutting asymmetrical
moldings at an angle.



thinking of devising an insert so that i have one sled with two inserts

anyone done this

what else is there to know about making the sled

steel versus wood runners

like the idea of steel runners but wood may work fine too
metalsupermarkets.com had some cold rolled that would work


my ts has t slots but the sled runners probably should not lock into
the slots as they might get caught up


I've had my TS for better than a decade and I don't have a sled on it. That
being said, probably the best place to see different options and determine
what you want or maybe more than one is YouTube. Lots of great videos and
maybe a scary one or two.






Electric Comet January 31st 17 11:29 PM

table saw sleds
 
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 15:21:23 -0700
"Bob La Londe" wrote:

I've had my TS for better than a decade and I don't have a sled on
it. That being said, probably the best place to see different
options and determine what you want or maybe more than one is
YouTube. Lots of great videos and maybe a scary one or two.


yes the tube has some good ones and some bad ones








Dr. Deb[_5_] February 1st 17 04:41 PM

table saw sleds
 
On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 12:51:51 PM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
seems that everyone uses a sled on their ts

well at least in the videos i have watched

i like the idea and so i am making one or maybe two


if you have a sled do you use the same one for dados or do you have
two sleds

small shop and do not want two sleds

thinking of devising an insert so that i have one sled with two inserts

anyone done this

what else is there to know about making the sled

steel versus wood runners

like the idea of steel runners but wood may work fine too
metalsupermarkets.com had some cold rolled that would work


my ts has t slots but the sled runners probably should not lock into
the slots as they might get caught up


I have made about three or four. The last one is the best. The one previous went with the TS it was fitted to, when I sold the TS. The absolute best video on how to square the sled to the blade is this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbG-n--LFgQ

As to your other question, I only use mine for crosscuts. I have two Incra miter jigs that I use for all others (the one I got on Ebay had been dropped and is only accurate on 45degree cuts. The other one [their 1000SE] is used for all other angle cuts.

Electric Comet February 1st 17 09:04 PM

table saw sleds
 
On Wed, 1 Feb 2017 08:41:21 -0800 (PST)
"Dr. Deb" wrote:

I have made about three or four. The last one is the best. The one
previous went with the TS it was fitted to, when I sold the TS. The
absolute best video on how to square the sled to the blade is this
one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbG-n--LFgQ



yes watched that one and now my feeler gauges have found a new life
in the wood shop

like his videos and his jokes

although worrying about a thousandth is a bit much because temps and
humidity can work for and against you

aiming for perfection is ok just as long as he does not insist on
it and he does not


did you go with steel or wood runners

i have some oily dark hardwood that was given to me and it may be
my runner material









Larry Blanchard February 1st 17 10:04 PM

table saw sleds
 
On Wed, 01 Feb 2017 13:04:56 -0800, Electric Comet wrote:

did you go with steel or wood runners

i have some oily dark hardwood that was given to me and it may be my
runner material


I don't know what he used, but I've used Kreg's and Incra's metal runners
with success. But the ones I like the best are the plastic ones. Do a
search for "UHMW runners".



--
What if a much of a which of a wind gives the truth to summer's lie?

Electric Comet February 1st 17 11:02 PM

table saw sleds
 
On Wed, 1 Feb 2017 22:04:35 +0000 (UTC)
Larry Blanchard wrote:

I don't know what he used, but I've used Kreg's and Incra's metal
runners with success. But the ones I like the best are the plastic
ones. Do a search for "UHMW runners".


good idea

my fence is faced with that









[email protected] February 2nd 17 02:20 AM

table saw sleds
 
On Wed, 1 Feb 2017 22:04:35 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Feb 2017 13:04:56 -0800, Electric Comet wrote:

did you go with steel or wood runners

i have some oily dark hardwood that was given to me and it may be my
runner material


I don't know what he used, but I've used Kreg's and Incra's metal runners
with success. But the ones I like the best are the plastic ones. Do a
search for "UHMW runners".


Peachtree sells piles of UHMW in all shapes an sizes. It's pretty
easy to work.

John Grossbohlin[_4_] February 2nd 17 03:00 AM

table saw sleds
 
wrote in message ...

On Wed, 1 Feb 2017 22:04:35 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard
wrote:

I don't know what he used, but I've used Kreg's and Incra's metal runners
with success. But the ones I like the best are the plastic ones. Do a
search for "UHMW runners".


Peachtree sells piles of UHMW in all shapes an sizes. It's pretty
easy to work.


I've been buying large plastic cutting boards at Wally World and using them
for various projects... easily available and inexpensive.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays...Board/13397990
Approximately 11/32" x 15" x 20"

I hadn't considered using them for runners on my sled but that is an
appealing idea as the fit of the wooden ones changes with the humidity.


Markem[_2_] February 2nd 17 04:13 PM

table saw sleds
 
On Wed, 01 Feb 2017 21:20:01 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 1 Feb 2017 22:04:35 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Feb 2017 13:04:56 -0800, Electric Comet wrote:

did you go with steel or wood runners

i have some oily dark hardwood that was given to me and it may be my
runner material


I don't know what he used, but I've used Kreg's and Incra's metal runners
with success. But the ones I like the best are the plastic ones. Do a
search for "UHMW runners".


Peachtree sells piles of UHMW in all shapes an sizes. It's pretty
easy to work.


Just requires special effort to glue it, or does Testors work?

Larry Blanchard February 2nd 17 05:08 PM

table saw sleds
 
On Thu, 02 Feb 2017 10:13:10 -0600, Markem wrote:

Peachtree sells piles of UHMW in all shapes an sizes. It's pretty easy
to work.


Just requires special effort to glue it, or does Testors work?


Never tried. It holds screws. I put a screw in about every 5-6 inches
to hold my sleds to the runners.


--
What if a much of a which of a wind gives the truth to summer's lie?

Electric Comet February 2nd 17 08:13 PM

table saw sleds
 
On Wed, 1 Feb 2017 22:00:18 -0500
"John Grossbohlin" wrote:

I've been buying large plastic cutting boards at Wally World and
using them for various projects... easily available and inexpensive.


had not thought of that but a good idea

I hadn't considered using them for runners on my sled but that is an
appealing idea as the fit of the wooden ones changes with the
humidity.


yes and maybe better than cold rolled steel just for the cost and
the facts

no rust
slippery forever
decent wear









whit3rd February 2nd 17 10:29 PM

table saw sleds
 
On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 8:13:11 AM UTC-8, Markem wrote:
On Wed, 01 Feb 2017 21:20:01 -0500, wrote:


Peachtree sells piles of UHMW in all shapes an sizes. It's pretty
easy to work.


Just requires special effort to glue it, or does Testors work?


Rivets. Pop rivets. Screws will cause stretching...

Larry Blanchard February 3rd 17 12:32 AM

table saw sleds
 
On Thu, 02 Feb 2017 14:29:21 -0800, whit3rd wrote:

Just requires special effort to glue it, or does Testors work?


Rivets. Pop rivets. Screws will cause stretching...


I predrill, which minimizes any stretching/widening. A couple of passes
thru the table slot usually removes any that's left. If not, a pass with
a block plane or even sandpaper will. UHMW is "soft*.


--
What if a much of a which of a wind gives the truth to summer's lie?

-MIKE- February 3rd 17 01:07 AM

table saw sleds
 
On 2/2/17 4:29 PM, whit3rd wrote:
On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 8:13:11 AM UTC-8, Markem wrote:
On Wed, 01 Feb 2017 21:20:01 -0500, wrote:


Peachtree sells piles of UHMW in all shapes an sizes. It's pretty
easy to work.


Just requires special effort to glue it, or does Testors work?


Rivets. Pop rivets. Screws will cause stretching...


That's not really a bad thing.
On mine, I put slits in the runner on the fore and aft ends. I
installed flat-head screws through those slits which will act to expand
the width of the runner. It's a great way to fine tune the runners in
the slot.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply


Brewster[_2_] February 4th 17 03:17 PM

table saw sleds
 
On 2/1/17 9:41 AM, Dr. Deb wrote:


I have made about three or four. The last one is the best. The one previous went with the TS


it was fitted to, when I sold the TS. The absolute best video on how to
square the sled to the blade is this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbG-n--LFgQ

As to your other question, I only use mine for crosscuts.


I have two Incra miter jigs that I use for all others (the one I got on
Ebay

had been dropped and is only accurate on 45degree cuts.

The other one [their 1000SE] is used for all other angle cuts.



The William Ng technique is excellent. Get the fence square with this
method, lock it down, and never worry about it again (until you
accidentally cut the fence in two).

I have the 1000 Incra, great product, but the miter bar really sucks for
my overwidth unisaw slots. I replaced the wear-prone nylon expanding
discs with a bunch of ball tipped set screws. Next time I'm just going
to get a steel bar machined to fit.


Having a dedicated jig for 45s that is dialed in is a real timesaver if
you do frequent miters.

-BR


Electric Comet February 4th 17 04:51 PM

table saw sleds
 
On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 08:17:01 -0700
Brewster wrote:

The William Ng technique is excellent. Get the fence square with this


it is a good idea but not his originally fwiw

maybe better name for the technique is error amplification

method, lock it down, and never worry about it again (until you
accidentally cut the fence in two).


have to make sure the miter fence is higher than the max blade height

some even place an aluminum brace across the top or plastic

Having a dedicated jig for 45s that is dialed in is a real timesaver
if you do frequent miters.


this makes sense and i see this in a lot of the sled vids

although some have a complete sled just for 45s









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