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Planer "skips" when planing (irregularly) can leave mark on stock
when happens.


commonly known as snipe

it can be hard to track down the cause

the material can sometimes be the culprit even
















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Planer "skips" when planing (irregularly) can leave mark on stock
when happens.


commonly known as snipe


....


No, the symptom described isn't snipe -- that's the end-effect from a
rocking table or dropping the exit end resulting in taking off more
material from the end few inches.

OP says it "skips" irregularly -- sounds like bad feed rollers,
misadjusted feed pressure combined, perhaps, with dull blades causing
extra cutting work.

Never had one of the "lunchbox" planers so don't have any real hands on
advice for OP on them...have only "big iron" old Rockwell/Powermatic
units which aren't at all comparable in adjustments/setup, unfortunately
for that purpose.

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On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 04:17:18 -0800 (PST)
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Planer "skips" when planing (irregularly) can leave mark on stock
when happens.


commonly known as snipe


...


No, the symptom described isn't snipe -- that's the end-effect from a
rocking table or dropping the exit end resulting in taking off more
material from the end few inches.

OP says it "skips" irregularly -- sounds like bad feed rollers,
misadjusted feed pressure combined, perhaps, with dull blades causing
extra cutting work.

Never had one of the "lunchbox" planers so don't have any real hands on
advice for OP on them...have only "big iron" old Rockwell/Powermatic
units which aren't at all comparable in adjustments/setup, unfortunately
for that purpose.

He did mention that he had a bad link in the chain, and now it runs
ok. That would sure explain the "skip".
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He did mention that he had a bad link in the chain, and now it runs
ok. That would sure explain the "skip".


Ayup, seems like it would at that...

The headers for the thread are corrupted apparently so only saw the
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Planer "skips" when planing (irregularly) can leave mark on stock
when happens.


commonly known as snipe

it can be hard to track down the cause

the material can sometimes be the culprit even


Yeah that is not right.



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On 2/11/2016 4:22 PM, OFWW wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 12:59:56 -0600, dpb wrote:

On 02/11/2016 7:30 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 04:17:18 -0800 (PST)
tri ton 5226 @ comcast.net wrote:



Planer "skips" when planing (irregularly) can leave mark on stock
when happens.

commonly known as snipe


...


No, the symptom described isn't snipe -- that's the end-effect from a
rocking table or dropping the exit end resulting in taking off more
material from the end few inches.

OP says it "skips" irregularly -- sounds like bad feed rollers,
misadjusted feed pressure combined, perhaps, with dull blades causing
extra cutting work.

Never had one of the "lunchbox" planers so don't have any real hands on
advice for OP on them...have only "big iron" old Rockwell/Powermatic
units which aren't at all comparable in adjustments/setup, unfortunately
for that purpose.

He did mention that he had a bad link in the chain, and now it runs
ok. That would sure explain the "skip".


At least it explains that it is not snipe. ;~)



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On 02/11/2016 6:39 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/11/2016 4:22 PM, OFWW wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 12:59:56 -0600, dpb wrote:

On 02/11/2016 7:30 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 04:17:18 -0800 (PST)
tri ton 5226 @ comcast.net wrote:



Planer "skips" when planing (irregularly) can leave mark on stock
when happens.

commonly known as snipe

...


No, the symptom described isn't snipe -- that's the end-effect from a
rocking table or dropping the exit end resulting in taking off more
material from the end few inches.

OP says it "skips" irregularly -- sounds like bad feed rollers,
misadjusted feed pressure combined, perhaps, with dull blades causing
extra cutting work.

Never had one of the "lunchbox" planers so don't have any real hands on
advice for OP on them...have only "big iron" old Rockwell/Powermatic
units which aren't at all comparable in adjustments/setup, unfortunately
for that purpose.

He did mention that he had a bad link in the chain, and now it runs
ok. That would sure explain the "skip".


At least it explains that it is not snipe. ;~)


chuckles Yeah, didn't think there needed to be that confusing the
issue even though I didn't have a klew regarding the real cause having
never even run a board thru somebody else's lunchbox.

I presume from the other posting they must use a cog belt for the drive
and he (OP) lost one or more teeth. On either of mine a bad link in
drive chain goes, everything comes to a (very sudden) halt.

This is the little guy; the PM-180 is all gear-driven with a matched set
3-pulley drive. (The green round "knob" in the picture is the pressure
clutch for the variable speed drive; it's a split pulley mounted on the
casting withe lever arm; pulling up increases speed).

Not actually mine, but same machine...

http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=13838

The PM is quite a lot heftier yet...but don't need more than 13" a lot
of the time.

The one I have came from a furniture manufacturing facility where they
had 27(!) of them arranged in 9 rows of three--each was set precisely to
process arriving stock to specific final thickness in the three passes.
These were replaced with a set of 6 of the PM Model 180s in an attempt
in the mid-70s to cut manpower overhead and remain viable.
Unfortunately, the moved only staved of the inevitable by maybe 10 years
or so.

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On 2/12/2016 10:32 AM, dpb wrote:
On 02/11/2016 6:39 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/11/2016 4:22 PM, OFWW wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 12:59:56 -0600, dpb wrote:

On 02/11/2016 7:30 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 04:17:18 -0800 (PST)
tri ton 5226 @ comcast.net wrote:



Planer "skips" when planing (irregularly) can leave mark on stock
when happens.

commonly known as snipe

...


No, the symptom described isn't snipe -- that's the end-effect from a
rocking table or dropping the exit end resulting in taking off more
material from the end few inches.

OP says it "skips" irregularly -- sounds like bad feed rollers,
misadjusted feed pressure combined, perhaps, with dull blades causing
extra cutting work.

Never had one of the "lunchbox" planers so don't have any real hands on
advice for OP on them...have only "big iron" old Rockwell/Powermatic
units which aren't at all comparable in adjustments/setup,
unfortunately
for that purpose.
He did mention that he had a bad link in the chain, and now it runs
ok. That would sure explain the "skip".


At least it explains that it is not snipe. ;~)


chuckles Yeah, didn't think there needed to be that confusing the
issue even though I didn't have a klew regarding the real cause having
never even run a board thru somebody else's lunchbox.

I presume from the other posting they must use a cog belt for the drive
and he (OP) lost one or more teeth. On either of mine a bad link in
drive chain goes, everything comes to a (very sudden) halt.

This is the little guy; the PM-180 is all gear-driven with a matched set
3-pulley drive. (The green round "knob" in the picture is the pressure
clutch for the variable speed drive; it's a split pulley mounted on the
casting withe lever arm; pulling up increases speed).


My very first thought of that picture was that of a double over head
valve cam engine with the timing cover removed. LOL

Cool machine.





Not actually mine, but same machine...

http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=13838

The PM is quite a lot heftier yet...but don't need more than 13" a lot
of the time.

The one I have came from a furniture manufacturing facility where they
had 27(!) of them arranged in 9 rows of three--each was set precisely to
process arriving stock to specific final thickness in the three passes.
These were replaced with a set of 6 of the PM Model 180s in an attempt
in the mid-70s to cut manpower overhead and remain viable.
Unfortunately, the moved only staved of the inevitable by maybe 10 years
or so.

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On 2/12/2016 10:32 AM, dpb wrote:

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This is the little guy; the PM-180 is all gear-driven with a matched set
3-pulley drive. (The green round "knob" in the picture is the pressure
clutch for the variable speed drive; it's a split pulley mounted on the
casting withe lever arm; pulling up increases speed).


My very first thought of that picture was that of a double over head
valve cam engine with the timing cover removed. LOL

Cool machine.

....

It's very handy, indeed. The fella' who cleaned up the one in the
picture (first one w/ the cover off showing drive I found) did a nice
job on painting and all; the silver/black looks good. _BUT_, the
originals were an off-white/Delta machinery gray.

The PM is old enough it's from the green era before the gold; not sure
just when that was and don't know the precise date for it. My PM66 TS
that bought new and picked up at the factory outside McMinnville around
'80+/- a year or two started out green but was repainted gold before I
picked it up so it was in the transition time period...

I'm pretty sure the planer predates that by at least 10 year and
probably 20 or more...

I've an old hybrid Walker-Turner/Rockwell 3/4" spindle shaper that came
from a shop on the VCU campus in Richmond that dates to the late
40s/early 50s. Many of the basic castings have identical casting
numbers to those still being produced by Delta before the buyout and
they went totally to pot...

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On 2/12/2016 10:32 AM, dpb wrote:

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This is the little guy; the PM-180 is all gear-driven with a matched set
3-pulley drive. (The green round "knob" in the picture is the pressure
clutch for the variable speed drive; it's a split pulley mounted on the
casting withe lever arm; pulling up increases speed).


My very first thought of that picture was that of a double over head
valve cam engine with the timing cover removed. LOL

Cool machine.

...

It's very handy, indeed. The fella' who cleaned up the one in the
picture (first one w/ the cover off showing drive I found) did a nice
job on painting and all; the silver/black looks good. _BUT_, the
originals were an off-white/Delta machinery gray.

The PM is old enough it's from the green era before the gold; not sure
just when that was and don't know the precise date for it. My PM66 TS
that bought new and picked up at the factory outside McMinnville around
'80+/- a year or two started out green but was repainted gold before I
picked it up so it was in the transition time period...

I'm pretty sure the planer predates that by at least 10 year and
probably 20 or more...


IIRC when I was looking for my first cabinet saw in 1998 the local store
had green Powermatics. If memory serves me well the PM 2000, a couple
of years later, was the beginning of the "Gold Standard" colors.

I could be FOS but I do recall the green but I was not that in tune with
PM up until the late 90's when I wanted to upgrade my TS.

And then for a short time since then you could order one of several
colors, some with flames. Geez... LOL




I've an old hybrid Walker-Turner/Rockwell 3/4" spindle shaper that came
from a shop on the VCU campus in Richmond that dates to the late
40s/early 50s. Many of the basic castings have identical casting
numbers to those still being produced by Delta before the buyout and
they went totally to pot...

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The PM is old enough it's from the green era before the gold; not sure
just when that was and don't know the precise date for it. My PM66 TS
that bought new and picked up at the factory outside McMinnville around
'80+/- a year or two started out green but was repainted gold before I
picked it up so it was in the transition time period...

I'm pretty sure the planer predates that by at least 10 year and
probably 20 or more...


IIRC when I was looking for my first cabinet saw in 1998 the local store
had green Powermatics. If memory serves me well the PM 2000, a couple of
years later, was the beginning of the "Gold Standard" colors.

I could be FOS but I do recall the green but I was not that in tune with
PM up until the late 90's when I wanted to upgrade my TS.

....

I think there was a period when they went back to the green after had
kinda' "lost their way" w/ the Jet purchase and all...but the original
switch from green was definitely well before that time. I don't
remember the _exact_ year of purchase but know it was within a year or
to of the move from VA to TN and that was in summer '78...so I'd give it
'81 or maybe '82 at the very latest.

Not that it really matters all that much, just was kinda' surprised when
the first chip showed the green underneath... And, this isn't
identically the same gold they use now, now are brighter/more yellow
than this was, even new...

I coveted the Model 66 from the old codger's shop in Lynchburg I've
talked about and got by with the old DeWalt RAS until could finally
swing it instead of doing something lesser and being dissatisfied. I
truly wanted a Model 26 shaper but got the little 1/2" spindle Delta as
a starter and eventually found the above Walker-Turner cheap. Those
were days long before the router was what they are today, of course.

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On 2/12/2016 3:41 PM, dpb wrote:
On 02/12/2016 2:24 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/12/2016 12:28 PM, dpb wrote:

...

The PM is old enough it's from the green era before the gold; not sure
just when that was and don't know the precise date for it. My PM66 TS
that bought new and picked up at the factory outside McMinnville around
'80+/- a year or two started out green but was repainted gold before I
picked it up so it was in the transition time period...

I'm pretty sure the planer predates that by at least 10 year and
probably 20 or more...


IIRC when I was looking for my first cabinet saw in 1998 the local store
had green Powermatics. If memory serves me well the PM 2000, a couple of
years later, was the beginning of the "Gold Standard" colors.

I could be FOS but I do recall the green but I was not that in tune with
PM up until the late 90's when I wanted to upgrade my TS.

...

I think there was a period when they went back to the green after had
kinda' "lost their way" w/ the Jet purchase and all...but the original
switch from green was definitely well before that time. I don't
remember the _exact_ year of purchase but know it was within a year or
to of the move from VA to TN and that was in summer '78...so I'd give it
'81 or maybe '82 at the very latest.


Got it, that makes sense and certainly not strange swapping colors.



Not that it really matters all that much, just was kinda' surprised when
the first chip showed the green underneath... And, this isn't
identically the same gold they use now, now are brighter/more yellow
than this was, even new...


Yeah I recall one of the golds looking kind'a like what I thought as
being not as attractive as the current gold. I'll not mention what I
really called it. ;~) So yours is absolutely from the the old school
bullet proof models I would imagine.

IIRC pictures of old PM trunions being almost intimidating. Is yours
massive? I really recall them being huge compared to the more modern PM
trunions.




I coveted the Model 66 from the old codger's shop in Lynchburg I've
talked about and got by with the old DeWalt RAS until could finally
swing it instead of doing something lesser and being dissatisfied. I
truly wanted a Model 26 shaper but got the little 1/2" spindle Delta as
a starter and eventually found the above Walker-Turner cheap. Those
were days long before the router was what they are today, of course.

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Not that it really matters all that much, just was kinda' surprised when
the first chip showed the green underneath... And, this isn't
identically the same gold they use now, now are brighter/more yellow
than this was, even new...


Yeah I recall one of the golds looking kind'a like what I thought as
being not as attractive as the current gold. I'll not mention what I
really called it. ;~) So yours is absolutely from the the old school
bullet proof models I would imagine.

IIRC pictures of old PM trunions being almost intimidating. Is yours
massive? I really recall them being huge compared to the more modern PM
trunions.

....

I've thought of repainting it to the modern gold but am sure never will
I don't know of any place to get the old color but I suspect part of
the reason this generation were as dark as they were was that they all
wear a green "primer" coat!

As for "massive" trunnions, they're hefty, certainly, but "they are what
they are" in judging as I've not really compared to anything newer.
I've never seen one of the new generation other than in pictures so
can't really comment. I know the total weight is at least comparable,
but that's all I can say.

Actually, on reflection, the 66 is by far and away the newest of the
large iron pieces I've got--both planers and jointer date from 60s/70s
and the shaper is early to maybe mid-50s. I regret it but I passed on
bringing an old (1930s) Crescent 24" jointer that was offered from one
of the TVA shops when we came back to the farm...

http://www.vintagemachinery.org/phot...es/16979-A.jpg

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On 02/12/2016 6:00 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/12/2016 3:41 PM, dpb wrote:
On 02/12/2016 2:24 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/12/2016 12:28 PM, dpb wrote:

...

The PM is old enough it's from the green era before the gold; not sure
just when that was and don't know the precise date for it. My PM66 TS
that bought new and picked up at the factory outside McMinnville around
'80+/- a year or two started out green but was repainted gold before I
picked it up so it was in the transition time period...

I'm pretty sure the planer predates that by at least 10 year and
probably 20 or more...

IIRC when I was looking for my first cabinet saw in 1998 the local store
had green Powermatics. If memory serves me well the PM 2000, a couple of
years later, was the beginning of the "Gold Standard" colors.

I could be FOS but I do recall the green but I was not that in tune with
PM up until the late 90's when I wanted to upgrade my TS.

...

I think there was a period when they went back to the green after had
kinda' "lost their way" w/ the Jet purchase and all...but the original
switch from green was definitely well before that time. I don't
remember the _exact_ year of purchase but know it was within a year or
to of the move from VA to TN and that was in summer '78...so I'd give it
'81 or maybe '82 at the very latest.


Got it, that makes sense and certainly not strange swapping colors.

....

Inquiring minds and all that...

From a thread at OWMM ca 2007...

http://wiki.vintagemachinery.org/paintcolorspowermatic.ashx

Gray / Grey thru 1958
Vista / Pea Green 1959 - 1969
Evergreen / Metallic Green 1970 - 1981
Metallic Gold 1 1982 - 1993
Metallic Gold 2 (1977 GM Cadillac Sovereign Gold Metallic 1994 - 1995
Mustard Yellow 1996 - Present


Some of them guys have _way_ too little otherwise to do!!! vbg

So, from this it must've been the '81-'82 transition when I bought the
66. I looked in the drawer where I dumped all the shop books and stuff
from the TN move and found the manual but the invoice wasn't with it so
can't confirm for absolute certain the exact date. I do recall it was
pretty early spring when drove over to pick it up as considered a side
trip to one of the many nurseries in the area over there but ended up not...

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On 2/13/2016 4:58 PM, dpb wrote:
On 02/12/2016 6:00 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/12/2016 3:41 PM, dpb wrote:
On 02/12/2016 2:24 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/12/2016 12:28 PM, dpb wrote:
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The PM is old enough it's from the green era before the gold; not sure
just when that was and don't know the precise date for it. My PM66 TS
that bought new and picked up at the factory outside McMinnville
around
'80+/- a year or two started out green but was repainted gold before I
picked it up so it was in the transition time period...

I'm pretty sure the planer predates that by at least 10 year and
probably 20 or more...

IIRC when I was looking for my first cabinet saw in 1998 the local
store
had green Powermatics. If memory serves me well the PM 2000, a
couple of
years later, was the beginning of the "Gold Standard" colors.

I could be FOS but I do recall the green but I was not that in tune
with
PM up until the late 90's when I wanted to upgrade my TS.
...

I think there was a period when they went back to the green after had
kinda' "lost their way" w/ the Jet purchase and all...but the original
switch from green was definitely well before that time. I don't
remember the _exact_ year of purchase but know it was within a year or
to of the move from VA to TN and that was in summer '78...so I'd give it
'81 or maybe '82 at the very latest.


Got it, that makes sense and certainly not strange swapping colors.

...

Inquiring minds and all that...

From a thread at OWMM ca 2007...

http://wiki.vintagemachinery.org/paintcolorspowermatic.ashx

Gray / Grey thru 1958
Vista / Pea Green 1959 - 1969
Evergreen / Metallic Green 1970 - 1981
Metallic Gold 1 1982 - 1993
Metallic Gold 2 (1977 GM Cadillac Sovereign Gold Metallic 1994 - 1995
Mustard Yellow 1996 - Present


Some of them guys have _way_ too little otherwise to do!!! vbg

So, from this it must've been the '81-'82 transition when I bought the
66. I looked in the drawer where I dumped all the shop books and stuff
from the TN move and found the manual but the invoice wasn't with it so
can't confirm for absolute certain the exact date. I do recall it was
pretty early spring when drove over to pick it up as considered a side
trip to one of the many nurseries in the area over there but ended up
not...

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That is very cool! So that Mustard Yellow must'a been the tint that
caught my eye originally. And 1977 Cadillac Gold! PEA Green!
I absolutely remember all of that. LOL I always thought that the new
gold kind'a had a greenish brownish cast to it.

Now let's talk about your hoarding problem. LOL...

I'm just pulling your leg!

About a year go I was going through my dad's old paperwork and records.
I believe I am going to keep a particular one. It was a change of
ownership license receipt from Oklahoma. This receipt is dated 1949 for
the purchase of a 1941 Buick. ;~)

Do you recall when receipts had a spot for the date and certain
certainties were preprinted? Like 194_, and you fill in the 9.




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On 2/13/2016 7:18 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/13/2016 4:58 PM, dpb wrote:
On 02/12/2016 6:00 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/12/2016 3:41 PM, dpb wrote:
On 02/12/2016 2:24 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/12/2016 12:28 PM, dpb wrote:
...

The PM is old enough it's from the green era before the gold; not
sure
just when that was and don't know the precise date for it. My PM66 TS
that bought new and picked up at the factory outside McMinnville
around
'80+/- a year or two started out green but was repainted gold
before I
picked it up so it was in the transition time period...

I'm pretty sure the planer predates that by at least 10 year and
probably 20 or more...

IIRC when I was looking for my first cabinet saw in 1998 the local
store
had green Powermatics. If memory serves me well the PM 2000, a
couple of
years later, was the beginning of the "Gold Standard" colors.

I could be FOS but I do recall the green but I was not that in tune
with
PM up until the late 90's when I wanted to upgrade my TS.
...

I think there was a period when they went back to the green after had
kinda' "lost their way" w/ the Jet purchase and all...but the original
switch from green was definitely well before that time. I don't
remember the _exact_ year of purchase but know it was within a year or
to of the move from VA to TN and that was in summer '78...so I'd
give it
'81 or maybe '82 at the very latest.

Got it, that makes sense and certainly not strange swapping colors.

...

Inquiring minds and all that...

From a thread at OWMM ca 2007...

http://wiki.vintagemachinery.org/paintcolorspowermatic.ashx

Gray / Grey thru 1958
Vista / Pea Green 1959 - 1969
Evergreen / Metallic Green 1970 - 1981
Metallic Gold 1 1982 - 1993
Metallic Gold 2 (1977 GM Cadillac Sovereign Gold Metallic 1994 - 1995
Mustard Yellow 1996 - Present


Some of them guys have _way_ too little otherwise to do!!! vbg

So, from this it must've been the '81-'82 transition when I bought the
66. I looked in the drawer where I dumped all the shop books and stuff
from the TN move and found the manual but the invoice wasn't with it so
can't confirm for absolute certain the exact date. I do recall it was
pretty early spring when drove over to pick it up as considered a side
trip to one of the many nurseries in the area over there but ended up
not...

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That is very cool! So that Mustard Yellow must'a been the tint that
caught my eye originally. And 1977 Cadillac Gold! PEA Green!
I absolutely remember all of that. LOL I always thought that the new
gold kind'a had a greenish brownish cast to it.

Now let's talk about your hoarding problem. LOL...

I'm just pulling your leg!

About a year go I was going through my dad's old paperwork and records.
I believe I am going to keep a particular one. It was a change of
ownership license receipt from Oklahoma. This receipt is dated 1949 for
the purchase of a 1941 Buick. ;~)

Do you recall when receipts had a spot for the date and certain
certainties were preprinted? Like 194_, and you fill in the 9.




Is this it, the color?

http://www.contractortalk.com/attach...planer-001.jpg

And more recently, the flames..

http://twwcdn.thewoodwhisperer.netdn...s/dsc02250.jpg


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On 02/13/2016 7:53 PM, Leon wrote:
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Is this it, the color?

....

I'm not sure 'cuz of the lighting but I think that's the lighter, later
"Cadillac" gold era...

This one looks pretty close on my monitor, at least ... and mine is also
of the era still with that big square heavy metal box over the motor
mount rather than the formed metal or (later) plastic...

http://www.streamlineworkspace.com/thumbs/item/1024x768/31283/18851/r_15-1.jpg

If'en I had a enabled picture-taker w/o having to use the cable link to
upload, I'd just go take a few...but I don't so it's sorta' a pain.

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On 2/14/2016 8:35 AM, dpb wrote:
On 02/13/2016 7:53 PM, Leon wrote:
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Is this it, the color?

...

I'm not sure 'cuz of the lighting but I think that's the lighter, later
"Cadillac" gold era...

This one looks pretty close on my monitor, at least ... and mine is also
of the era still with that big square heavy metal box over the motor
mount rather than the formed metal or (later) plastic...

http://www.streamlineworkspace.com/thumbs/item/1024x768/31283/18851/r_15-1.jpg


If'en I had a enabled picture-taker w/o having to use the cable link to
upload, I'd just go take a few...but I don't so it's sorta' a pain.

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Well thanks anyway, it's not important, just interesting. And thanks
for clearing up the green to gold to green to gold models.
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On 02/14/2016 8:52 AM, Leon wrote:
On 2/14/2016 8:35 AM, dpb wrote:

....

This one looks pretty close on my monitor, at least ... and mine is also
of the era still with that big square heavy metal box over the motor
mount rather than the formed metal or (later) plastic...

http://www.streamlineworkspace.com/thumbs/item/1024x768/31283/18851/r_15-1.jpg

....

Well thanks anyway, it's not important, just interesting. And thanks for
clearing up the green to gold to green to gold models.


I knew _something_ wasn't right on that picture; it dawned on me -- mine
has chromed wheels instead of the black. The decal in that picture
looks almost black; it's really the dark green w/ red and white stripes--

http://www.johngweber.com/jgw/saws/o1102b.jpg

It's kinda' fun; agreed it isn't important... I've got some tasks I
really want to finish up today (the stand for the Tormek being one, I
ran out of time yesterday afternoon to finish the drawer for the
accessories before cleaning up to go to town for the local community
college ball games and it's still too cold this morning) so just
piddlin' for a little while before church...

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Now let's talk about your hoarding problem. LOL...

I'm just pulling your leg!

About a year go I was going through my dad's old paperwork and records.
I believe I am going to keep a particular one. It was a change of
ownership license receipt from Oklahoma. This receipt is dated 1949 for
the purchase of a 1941 Buick. ;~)

Do you recall when receipts had a spot for the date and certain
certainties were preprinted? Like 194_, and you fill in the 9.

....

Oh, that's nothin', Leon! There's the original loan receipt from
1913 my grandfather and his brother took out for $300 to buy the pair of
mules and other homestake gear when they made the big move from Stafford
County (KS) to the place here the following year.

I've also got copies (nearly pristine condition) of the owners books for
the old McCormick-Deering 10-20

http://www.tractorshed.com/photoads/upload/341393_opt.jpg

and the old Twin City 20-35. Don't think (fact am certain ) grandpa
ever pulled three binders at a time, but we still used an identical one
through the early 60s...it finally was sold to a Mennonite farmer when
Dad had his retirement sale in the early '90s; had been out in the shed
ever since.

http://www.digitalhorizonsonline.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/uw/id/3891/rec/1

And that's just a bare sampling of the "stuff" that's still around...

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On 2/14/2016 9:32 AM, dpb wrote:
On 02/13/2016 7:53 PM, Leon wrote:
...

Now let's talk about your hoarding problem. LOL...

I'm just pulling your leg!

About a year go I was going through my dad's old paperwork and records.
I believe I am going to keep a particular one. It was a change of
ownership license receipt from Oklahoma. This receipt is dated 1949 for
the purchase of a 1941 Buick. ;~)

Do you recall when receipts had a spot for the date and certain
certainties were preprinted? Like 194_, and you fill in the 9.

...

Oh, that's nothin', Leon! There's the original loan receipt from
1913 my grandfather and his brother took out for $300 to buy the pair of
mules and other homestake gear when they made the big move from Stafford
County (KS) to the place here the following year.


LOL You got me there!




I've also got copies (nearly pristine condition) of the owners books for
the old McCormick-Deering 10-20

http://www.tractorshed.com/photoads/upload/341393_opt.jpg

and the old Twin City 20-35. Don't think (fact am certain ) grandpa
ever pulled three binders at a time, but we still used an identical one
through the early 60s...it finally was sold to a Mennonite farmer when
Dad had his retirement sale in the early '90s; had been out in the shed
ever since.

http://www.digitalhorizonsonline.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/uw/id/3891/rec/1


And that's just a bare sampling of the "stuff" that's still around...

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Some of those "old" instruction manuals are a delight to read.

My uncle gave me a book on proper maintenance of a vehicle and how to
properly drive a vehicle, back in the early 70's when I was learning to
drive. He kind'a grinned when he handed it to me, he got it from his dad.

I clearly remember that the operator of a vehicle should regularly check
and oil as needed the leather clutch plate on the transmission.

Further it advised that only a "show off" would attempt to drive up an
incline on a road with out downshifting.

Those were different times. ;~)


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