What kind of money will people pay you for your works?

In another thread about cutting boards it was said that the cool
cutting boards sold well. It made me wonder at what price?

What have you sold lately and how did you decide on the price?


I wonder how prices trend. Higher in big cities, etc., etc.
Lower in places where there is a higher concentration of woodworkers.

On 12/20/2014 12:52 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
What kind of money will people pay you for your works?

In another thread about cutting boards it was said that the cool
cutting boards sold well. It made me wonder at what price?

What have you sold lately and how did you decide on the price?


I wonder how prices trend. Higher in big cities, etc., etc.
Lower in places where there is a higher concentration of woodworkers.



My works? Most I ever got was the cost of wood. I don't do it for
money so I refuse to take any for a hobby.

No would pay what I'd want to earn.

Most of the stuff I see for sale at craft shows and the like are in the
$10 to $50 range. It seems that is the sweet spot for impulse buys.

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 13:33:59 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 12/20/2014 12:52 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
What kind of money will people pay you for your works?

In another thread about cutting boards it was said that the cool
cutting boards sold well. It made me wonder at what price?

What have you sold lately and how did you decide on the price?


I wonder how prices trend. Higher in big cities, etc., etc.
Lower in places where there is a higher concentration of woodworkers.



My works? Most I ever got was the cost of wood. I don't do it for
money so I refuse to take any for a hobby.

No would pay what I'd want to earn.

Most of the stuff I see for sale at craft shows and the like are in the
$10 to $50 range. It seems that is the sweet spot for impulse buys.
Trying to recoup more than your costs on anything that distantly
resembles something that can be purchaced made in Japan, Korea,
Mexico, India, or VietNam is basically a fool's errand.
When I build something I do it for the satisfaction of making it
myself and knowing there is quality there that "money cannot buy"
If I give it as a gift it is to someone who appreciates that.

On 12/20/2014 12:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
Most of the stuff I see for sale at craft shows and the like are in the
$10 to $50 range. It seems that is the sweet spot for impulse buys.

There's riches in niches...

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On 12/20/2014 12:57 PM, wrote:
....

Trying to recoup more than your costs on anything that distantly
resembles something that can be purchaced made in Japan, Korea,
Mexico, India, or VietNam is basically a fool's errand.
....

There are quite a number of folks who specialize in the crafts markets;
some of them do so quite successfully. It takes approaching it in a
manner appropriate to the genre, though...if you take a weekend on a
"one-off" item, that doesn't cut it.

I had a good friend in E TN who make "rustic" toys, yard ornaments and
the like and made a decent living at it for years. It was "junk"
wood-working by the standards of virtually everybody here, but it sold
at a net profit in surprising volume.

To do so was, however, a job, not recreation and definitely not fine
cabinetry.

I've not been to one of the types of shows/markets he frequented in 20
yr; at that time others did pretty well with the turned pen/pencil sets
and other decorative turnings.

Others who were successful concentrated on green-stick furniture,
basket-weaving (not so much actual woodwoorking but a cellulosic raw
material) and boxes so not sure how it's evolved but I'd think probably
the same items probably do about as always did. The advent of the laser
engraver has added new niches, of course...

But, fine woodworking as a hobby and selling higher quality products is,
as noted, highly unlikely to be profitable on an 'on-spec' kinda' basis
of making something you like and then hoping it'll sell.

Guys like Brian Boggs started out sorta' that way but they worked
exceedingly diligently at their craft and turned it into a specialized
high-end business over a long period of time. I remember Brian when he
wasn't yet a name in Berea, KY. All was, of course, exceptionally fine
work but not all was successful even for him in the early going.

He's since moved to Asheville and has reinvented a business model based
around the cooperative. There's a survey article in FWW on that from a
few years ago...let's see....ah, there it is--

http://www.finewoodworking.com/item/32471/can-brian-boggs-change-the-world-for-pro-furnituremakers

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On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 13:02:00 -0600
Swingman wrote:


There's riches in niches...

This seems to be true. I've seen segmented bowls fetch a lot of money.
They require lots of skill/time/effort too.

The niche might be as simple as the selling venue. Or as complex as a
segmented tall-thin vase. Or a combination. (^;

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 13:33:59 -0500
Ed Pawlowski wrote:


Most of the stuff I see for sale at craft shows and the like are in
the $10 to $50 range. It seems that is the sweet spot for impulse
buys.

That seems reasonable for craft-festival-fair-faire-flea-market-swap-meet
show audience (or demographics).

On 20/12/2014 11:33 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 12/20/2014 12:52 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
What kind of money will people pay you for your works?

In another thread about cutting boards it was said that the cool
cutting boards sold well. It made me wonder at what price?

What have you sold lately and how did you decide on the price?


I wonder how prices trend. Higher in big cities, etc., etc.
Lower in places where there is a higher concentration of woodworkers.



My works? Most I ever got was the cost of wood. I don't do it for
money so I refuse to take any for a hobby.

No would pay what I'd want to earn.

Most of the stuff I see for sale at craft shows and the like are in the
$10 to $50 range. It seems that is the sweet spot for impulse buys.

I was once asked how much I would charge for a salad bowl by someone who
wanted to buy one as a wedding present. I checked with a friend who made
his living as a woodturner and quoted a fair price that wouldn't
undercut him.
Of course she was stunned with the quote; I think she thought that she
could get it for peanuts.
Graham

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 13:57:58 -0500
wrote:

Trying to recoup more than your costs on anything that distantly
resembles something that can be purchaced made in Japan, Korea,
Mexico, India, or VietNam is basically a fool's errand.

Yes, competing with that is a fool's errand, is that what you're
saying? Also buyers expecting the price to be the same are fools or
they just don't care, which is not foolish just ignorance probably.

When I build something I do it for the satisfaction of making it
myself and knowing there is quality there that "money cannot buy"

You won't get that satisfaction if you sell it? Or you're not willing to
sell it at a loss? Or you don't want to sell? I don't understand.

I think it comes down to going to venues where the works are created
locally and that fact is advertised and maintained and adhered to.
I know some venues that require the seller to be the maker.

If I give it as a gift it is to someone who appreciates that.

Gifts are a nice way to share works.

On 12/20/2014 11:52 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
What kind of money will people pay you for your works?

In another thread about cutting boards it was said that the cool
cutting boards sold well. It made me wonder at what price?

What have you sold lately and how did you decide on the price?


I wonder how prices trend. Higher in big cities, etc., etc.
Lower in places where there is a higher concentration of woodworkers.




As Swingman has indicated, there is money to be had when you offer
something that is not main stream. I sell quite successfully at a fair
price, for me and my customer custom designed and built furniture.
In another post today I completed a cutting board. I built them to give
as gifts, I wold sell them for $200+ if selling them. I am long retired
and could maybe make a decent living at selling my work, if I wanted to
work that hard at it, but I don't want to. What I charge way more than
pays for the high dollar equipment I buy to produce it.

On Saturday, December 20, 2014 3:25:14 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:

As Swingman has indicated, there is money to be had when you offer
something that is not main stream.

I agree with Karl and Leon.

I'm retired, also. My (mostly) high-end customers don't care if I work at my leisure. They know my work or they have been referred by someone who knows my work. I rarely place a price on an item. I usually just accept what they offer, when they ask if I can make an item. Their offer is usually reasonable or fairly generous.

Recent requests:
*Prie dieu - $200 offered, basic/not fancy, upholstered knee & arm rests.
*Basic upright display cabinets - 6'H X 4'W, rustic/weathered, salvaged cypress, little to no finish, $1K/cabinet offered.
*Rustic garden gate (lawn decor) - salvaged cypress pickets, rusty nails, salvaged/rusty strap hinges.... They want to hear the hinges creak. "$1 for the gate, $199 for the creaking".
*Simple 4' plank bench - $250 offered, rustic, salvaged cypress.

Sonny

On 12/20/2014 3:30 PM, graham wrote:


I was once asked how much I would charge for a salad bowl by someone who
wanted to buy one as a wedding present. I checked with a friend who made
his living as a woodturner and quoted a fair price that wouldn't
undercut him.
Of course she was stunned with the quote; I think she thought that she
could get it for peanuts.
Graham

You probably were over charging. After all, that big hunk of walnut is
about the same price as a 2 x 4 stud at Home Depot and it only takes a
few minutes to turn. The machine does all the work.

They figured you'd be cheaper than Wal Mart.
Most people have no clue.

graham wrote:


I was once asked how much I would charge for a salad bowl by someone
who
wanted to buy one as a wedding present. I checked with a friend who
made
his living as a woodturner and quoted a fair price that wouldn't
undercut him.
Of course she was stunned with the quote; I think she thought that
she
could get it for peanuts.
-------------------------------------------------------
Reminds me of the people who ask, "How much is that boat?"

There is only one answer, especially if it is a Hinckley.

If you have to ask, you probably can't afford.

Lew

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 13:30:25 -0700
graham wrote:


I was once asked how much I would charge for a salad bowl by someone
who wanted to buy one as a wedding present. I checked with a friend

This reminds me of that old saying "If you have to ask you can't
afford it."

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 15:24:45 -0600
Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:


As Swingman has indicated, there is money to be had when you offer
something that is not main stream. I sell quite successfully at a
fair price, for me and my customer custom designed and built
furniture. In another post today I completed a cutting board. I
built them to give as gifts, I wold sell them for $200+ if selling
them. I am long retired and could maybe make a decent living at
selling my work, if I wanted to work that hard at it, but I don't
want to. What I charge way more than pays for the high dollar
equipment I buy to produce it.

This is encouraging. Even more so because I buy low dollar equipment
and sometimes I get stuff free! Heck I'm practically in the black
as I type.

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 15:02:20 -0800 (PST)
Sonny wrote:

Recent requests:
*Prie dieu - $200 offered, basic/not fancy, upholstered knee & arm
rests. *Basic upright display cabinets - 6'H X 4'W, rustic/weathered,
salvaged cypress, little to no finish, $1K/cabinet offered. *Rustic
garden gate (lawn decor) - salvaged cypress pickets, rusty nails,
salvaged/rusty strap hinges.... They want to hear the hinges creak.
"$1 for the gate, $199 for the creaking". *Simple 4' plank bench -
$250 offered, rustic, salvaged cypress.

Encouraging as well as funny. I have no idea what a prie dieu is.
Do I need to learn french to make more money?

$199 for creaking sounds cheap.

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 13:27:09 -0600
dpb wrote:


There are quite a number of folks who specialize in the crafts
markets; some of them do so quite successfully. It takes approaching
it in a manner appropriate to the genre, though...if you take a
weekend on a "one-off" item, that doesn't cut it.

I had a good friend in E TN who make "rustic" toys, yard ornaments
and the like and made a decent living at it for years. It was "junk"
wood-working by the standards of virtually everybody here, but it
sold at a net profit in surprising volume.

Sounds like he found the "sweet spot". Just enough effort but not too
much. A niche.

The Boggs comments are interesting and I think that same story has played
out all over the country. The coop idea sounds like the same thing as
what the menonites/amish/quakers do.

On 20/12/2014 6:47 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 12/20/2014 3:30 PM, graham wrote:


I was once asked how much I would charge for a salad bowl by someone who
wanted to buy one as a wedding present. I checked with a friend who made
his living as a woodturner and quoted a fair price that wouldn't
undercut him.
Of course she was stunned with the quote; I think she thought that she
could get it for peanuts.
Graham

You probably were over charging. After all, that big hunk of walnut is
about the same price as a 2 x 4 stud at Home Depot and it only takes a
few minutes to turn. The machine does all the work.

No effing way! Those big chunks cost a lot to replace if you depend on a
wood merchant. The machine doesn't do all the work! The skill of the
turner makes a difference. You should see some of the monstrosities that
I've seen turned out by guys with no feel for form.

They figured you'd be cheaper than Wal Mart.
Most people have no clue.
With that I agree! Not only in woodworking but also in my profession.
Companies with multi-million dollar budgets seem to think that I will
work for peanuts when they are depending on my considerable experience
to solve their problems. Fortunately, at my stage in life, I don't lose
any sleep if they decide to look elsewhere.
Graham

On 12/20/14, 10:52 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
What kind of money will people pay you for your works?

In another thread about cutting boards it was said that the cool
cutting boards sold well. It made me wonder at what price?

For me, it depends on the hours/supplies/wood quantity.

For the board I made similar to Leon's, I asked $45 at the local gallery
and it sold in a few days. This area is fairly low income so prices one
could ask probably vary 2x. My board was rock maple with walnut/white
oak/mahogany inlay, about 15"x10", curved edges with finger grooves on
the ends. Other boards with basket weave patterns sell for $50, but the
effort is _far_ greater. The biggest cost is wear and tear on the drum
sander belts when leveling end grain boards. Wood usage can be up to 3x
the amount that ends up in the final board.
Simple boards, just laminations of sticks with rounded curves and finger
grooves usually sell well for $30. Extra fancy stuff goes for more, but
the upper limit around here seems to be about $70.

Either way, after figuring in materials, I make maybe $0.50-$2.00 an
hour (obviously I don't do this for the money) 8^)


-BR


What have you sold lately and how did you decide on the price?


I wonder how prices trend. Higher in big cities, etc., etc.
Lower in places where there is a higher concentration of woodworkers.




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On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:43:14 -0800 (PST)
" wrote:


The easiest way to figure out "what to charge" IF YOU WANT TO MAKE
MONEY is to determine the value of your product on the market. Got
to some craft shows and woodworking shows if you have them in
your areas and talk to vendors.

That should be your start point to determine if there is a market for
your product and give you some guidelines as to pricing. Remember
all the things you should put in there like the cost of getting
material in your hands, not just the purchase price. Remember
consumables such as sandpaper, finishes, paint, odd hardware, and
costs such as electricity, cost to get your good to market (not just
the price of the table) and all the other things you need. Don't
forget some kind of rudimentary business card, cost of lunch at the
venue, and any additional costs of adding your additional bookkeeping
and tax prep to your annual income.

I had a smokin' business around 2000 making wooden pens. I had a
great line on the hardware and had a ton of ebony, teac, cocobolo,
zircote, bocote, etc. that I got from an exotic wood distributor here
in town. He brought a lot of that stuff in, and the wood he wold me
was basically sawed from much large pieces that were broken and split
in his load. I only made the classic Scheafer and Pellican models
from the turn of the last century.

I made some good money for about 4 years doing that, then they were
everywhere and the price collapsed. Even the Boy Scouts were turning
them as fund raisers The point being, pricing is market driven.

A good friend of mine had the same thing happen to him when he was
making desk humidors.

Most of the reason my market collapsed is as noted above, I no longer
had anything close to an exclusive product. Worse, almost all the
guys I met at the county fairs, wood working shows, exhibitions, etc.
told me (after being stunned at their low pricing) they didn't care
if they made money or not, they were just having fun. It was a hobby
their wives tolerated. That whole mentality swallowed up all my
turned Christmas ornaments, lamp pulls, oil lamps, desk pen sets, etc.

Still, I would encourage you to do it. If you find the right product,
you can make some money and have some fun.


Thanks for sharing, one thing seems clear and that's I should not
try too hard to sell at craft shows. So I will look for the right
venues and there's always etsy.

We're told that there are ~7 billion of us here so there's always
going to be someone else doing the same thing. So I won't be making
what's already out there or make them in some novel way.

On Monday, December 22, 2014 2:30:53 PM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:

Yes using french words seems to up the price.


Yeah, my bad. I should have used rustique, instead of rustic. And while you're buildng the items, have something like this playing in the background.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X025OK5mfwo

Good music is inspirational, often times.

Sonny

Sonny wrote:
On Monday, December 22, 2014 2:30:53 PM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:

Yes using french words seems to up the price.


Yeah, my bad. I should have used rustique, instead of rustic. And while you're buildng the items, have something like this playing in the background.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X025OK5mfwo

Good music is inspirational, often times.

Sonny

Sorry, Sonny. I'll stick with Hawaiian or bluegrass instrumental.

--
 GW Ross 

 You have two choices for dinner: Take 
 it or Leave it. 

On 12/22/14, 1:29 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 08:10:36 -0700
Brewster wrote:


... I leave a 'description card' with the
wood species, care instructions, etc. and most importantly a warning
that the board is 'decorative' and excessive moisture will cause

Waterproof glue won't work here?


It's the mechanical forces of different rates of wood expansion along
the glue line. I've seen recommendations to use glues with a bit of
'give' to help prevent this.
For complex stuff, I use epoxy exclusively due to the much longer
working time even though TB-III might make more sense.

-BR






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On Monday, December 22, 2014 8:14:32 PM UTC-6, G. Ross wrote:

Sorry, Sonny. I'll stick with Hawaiian or bluegrass instrumental.
 GW Ross 

I got a chuckle from that. I knew someone would "object", that way. Actually, I like a variety of music and I'm more in tune with C&W, Cajun French, 60's & 70s R&R, than with those soundtrack instrumentals.

During the school year I spent in Idaho, there were lots of bluegrass fans, listening to the BG radio station, there. I do appreciate BG. We don't have a BG radio station here in S. Louisiana, but I do have the Pandora connection. Thanks for the reminder, I'll have to reconnect with BG.... and those school-time memories.

Sonny

On 12/23/2014 11:14 AM, Sonny wrote:
On Monday, December 22, 2014 8:14:32 PM UTC-6, G. Ross wrote:

Sorry, Sonny. I'll stick with Hawaiian or bluegrass instrumental.
 GW Ross 

I got a chuckle from that. I knew someone would "object", that way. Actually, I like a variety of music and I'm more in tune with C&W, Cajun French, 60's & 70s R&R, than with those soundtrack instrumentals.

During the school year I spent in Idaho, there were lots of bluegrass fans, listening to the BG radio station, there. I do appreciate BG. We don't have a BG radio station here in S. Louisiana, but I do have the Pandora connection. Thanks for the reminder, I'll have to reconnect with BG.... and those school-time memories.

Sonny

East Texas has BG festivals every year - in several towns.

Just without most of the Texas Swing that I like.

Martin

On 12/23/2014 8:43 PM, Martin Eastburn wrote:

East Texas has BG festivals every year - in several towns.

Just without most of the Texas Swing that I like.

Besides a fiddle in the band, in Texas you gottta cover all bases.

Played in a Texas Swing band with half these guys when playing in South
Central and West Texas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oC5...KuwmgZWgy5Ufqg

And four of us, plus a chick singer, as a BG band when playing in East
Texas:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1113554...88464789672 2

And, what I love about Sirius XM radio in the truck: Bluegrass Junction...

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On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 4:58:16 PM UTC-6, Swingman wrote:

Besides a fiddle in the band, in Texas you gottta cover all bases.

Played in a Texas Swing band with half these guys when playing in South
Central and West Texas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oC5...KuwmgZWgy5Ufqg

And four of us, plus a chick singer, as a BG band when playing in East
Texas:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1113554...88464789672 2

And, what I love about Sirius XM radio in the truck: Bluegrass Junction...

Dang! I had you (and Leon) pegged wrong. I had imagined this working garage scenario for you two:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clk4G5EF4AY

Sonny

On 12/24/2014 5:33 PM, Sonny wrote:

Dang! I had you (and Leon) pegged wrong. I had imagined this working garage scenario for you two:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clk4G5EF4AY

LOL ... you ain't far wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjadWaB_L2g

Between me and Leon, that movie has been plumb wore out...

Merry Christmas, Sonny,

.... and all the rest of the wRec!

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Swingman wrote:


Merry Christmas, Sonny,

... and all the rest of the wRec!

Merry Christmas to you as well Karl,

....and all the rest of the wRec!

(Just got done making a bunch of dozen of perogis with my wife. Can't wait
for the kids to get here on Saturday now, to eat them! Too much work, but
boy are they worth it...)

--

-Mike-

"Mike Marlow" wrote in
:

Merry Christmas to you as well Karl,

...and all the rest of the wRec!

(Just got done making a bunch of dozen of perogis with my wife. Can't
wait for the kids to get here on Saturday now, to eat them! Too much
work, but boy are they worth it...)


Merry Christmas.

I'm gonna leave that last paragraph alone... It doesn't read how you wrote
it.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 19:19:22 -0600, Swingman wrote:
Merry Christmas, Sonny,
... and all the rest of the wRec!

And Merry Christmas to you and everybody else on the wRec. Haven't
been too active here lately, but when I do go online, this is the
first newsgroup I view.

Sonny wrote:
On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 4:58:16 PM UTC-6, Swingman wrote:

Besides a fiddle in the band, in Texas you gottta cover all bases.

Played in a Texas Swing band with half these guys when playing in South
Central and West Texas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oC5...KuwmgZWgy5Ufqg

And four of us, plus a chick singer, as a BG band when playing in East
Texas:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1113554...88464789672 2

And, what I love about Sirius XM radio in the truck: Bluegrass Junction...

Dang! I had you (and Leon) pegged wrong. I had imagined this working
garage scenario for you two:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clk4G5EF4AY

Sonny

We thought you was a Toad! LOL

Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote:
"Mike Marlow" wrote in
:

Merry Christmas to you as well Karl,

...and all the rest of the wRec!

(Just got done making a bunch of dozen of perogis with my wife. Can't
wait for the kids to get here on Saturday now, to eat them! Too much
work, but boy are they worth it...)


Merry Christmas.

I'm gonna leave that last paragraph alone... It doesn't read how you wrote
it.

Puckdropper

Whaaaat? You don't eat your young? :-). Merry Christmas yall,

Leon wrote:
Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote:
"Mike Marlow" wrote in
:
Merry Christmas to you as well Karl,

...and all the rest of the wRec!

(Just got done making a bunch of dozen of perogis with my wife. Can't
wait for the kids to get here on Saturday now, to eat them! Too much
work, but boy are they worth it...)

Merry Christmas.

I'm gonna leave that last paragraph alone... It doesn't read how you wrote
it.

Puckdropper
Whaaaat? You don't eat your young? :-). Merry Christmas yall,

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year (to ya'll)!
Bill

On Thursday, December 25, 2014 5:43:25 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:


We thought you was a Toad! LOL


I am. Merry Ribbit Christmas! ....To All.

Sonny

On 12/24/2014 4:57 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 12/23/2014 8:43 PM, Martin Eastburn wrote:

East Texas has BG festivals every year - in several towns.

Just without most of the Texas Swing that I like.

Besides a fiddle in the band, in Texas you gottta cover all bases.

Played in a Texas Swing band with half these guys when playing in South
Central and West Texas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oC5...KuwmgZWgy5Ufqg

And four of us, plus a chick singer, as a BG band when playing in East
Texas:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1113554...88464789672 2


And, what I love about Sirius XM radio in the truck: Bluegrass Junction...

I use Pandora myself on my cell phone. To many trees around here for
XM to be in the car, long road trip we might sign up for it. Had it for
a short time, Turn on the car and start to drive down the driveway and I
hit dozens of trees that are dense (Live Oak) and then even along
the highway into town the road has high trees shielding the southern sky.

I might have to get one for the library and have it sit still - or get
an outdoor antenna...

Martin - 'Deep' East Texas Retire

On 12/24/2014 5:33 PM, Sonny wrote:
On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 4:58:16 PM UTC-6, Swingman wrote:

Besides a fiddle in the band, in Texas you gottta cover all bases.

Played in a Texas Swing band with half these guys when playing in South
Central and West Texas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oC5...KuwmgZWgy5Ufqg

And four of us, plus a chick singer, as a BG band when playing in East
Texas:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1113554...88464789672 2

And, what I love about Sirius XM radio in the truck: Bluegrass Junction...

Dang! I had you (and Leon) pegged wrong. I had imagined this working garage scenario for you two:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clk4G5EF4AY

Sonny

Those are the deep south boys. Soggy Bottoms.... :-)

On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 21:52:15 -0600, Martin Eastburn
wrote:

On 12/24/2014 4:57 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 12/23/2014 8:43 PM, Martin Eastburn wrote:

East Texas has BG festivals every year - in several towns.

Just without most of the Texas Swing that I like.

Besides a fiddle in the band, in Texas you gottta cover all bases.

Played in a Texas Swing band with half these guys when playing in South
Central and West Texas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oC5...KuwmgZWgy5Ufqg

And four of us, plus a chick singer, as a BG band when playing in East
Texas:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1113554...88464789672 2


And, what I love about Sirius XM radio in the truck: Bluegrass Junction...

I use Pandora myself on my cell phone. To many trees around here for
XM to be in the car, long road trip we might sign up for it. Had it for
a short time, Turn on the car and start to drive down the driveway and I
hit dozens of trees that are dense (Live Oak) and then even along
the highway into town the road has high trees shielding the southern sky.

I might have to get one for the library and have it sit still - or get
an outdoor antenna...

We have XM in my wife's car but I decided I didn't need it in my truck
(thought they keep sending "special" offers). I'd rather listen to
talk radio for the commute. There are times I'd like it but it's not
worth the money. At home (where I have wifi - 4G is to expensive) I
listen to I-Heart-Radio. I've found a few stations that are really
good. I was recently in the hospital for 9 days and used it for
background at night. Didn't sleep more than a couple of hours a night
so listening to music was better than watching the clock go 'round.

On 12/27/2014 9:09 AM, wrote:

We have XM in my wife's car but I decided I didn't need it in my truck
(thought they keep sending "special" offers). I'd rather listen to
talk radio for the commute. There are times I'd like it but it's not
worth the money.

I resisted for years, but bit the bullet with this last truck purchase,
and found that when Traveling back and forth 500 miles to AR, and being
able to stay on the station du jour the entire way without having to
continually scan for something worth listening to every 100 miles, was
worth the coffee money/month.

Particularly like the coverage, both in content (still love to listen to
Car Talk) and in location.

AAMOF, Too bad cable TV isn't more like XM radio...

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Swingman wrote:
On 12/27/2014 9:09 AM, wrote:

We have XM in my wife's car but I decided I didn't need it in my truck
(thought they keep sending "special" offers). I'd rather listen to
talk radio for the commute. There are times I'd like it but it's not
worth the money.

I resisted for years, but bit the bullet with this last truck
purchase, and found that when Traveling back and forth 500 miles to
AR, and being able to stay on the station du jour the entire way
without having to continually scan for something worth listening to
every 100 miles, was worth the coffee money/month.

Particularly like the coverage, both in content (still love to listen
to Car Talk) and in location.

AAMOF, Too bad cable TV isn't more like XM radio...

My most used feature on my smart TV is the USA Today App--basically like
reading the newspaper.