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The Pussification of the American Male
Is it just me or have we become a nation of pussies? And where was I
when this cosmic shift took place? Let me explain "cosmic shift" through example. When I was a baby we did not have a car seat, no one did. When I got older I would sit in the front seat without a seat belt, everyone did. I did not own or wear a bicycle helmet as a kid - I still don't. In any event, somewhere along the line a cosmic shift took place where only lunatics would put a baby in a car without a car seat or drive without seat belts. The same sort of cosmic shift is nearly completed with bicycle helmets. It's a strange sort of phenomenon that sometimes makes sense but at other times it doesn't. Another cosmic shift has taken place in America but this one is repugnant in all ways. I'm talking about the pussification of American men. The seat belts and the bike helmets are all part of this and the cosmic shift really accelerated after 9-11. Fear began to trump sex on Madison Avenue. The metrosexual has become the symbol of American masculinity. Hugh Grant has replaced Cary Grant as a Hollywood icon of masculinity. I was at a party recently and some hag was blathering on about how hot David Schwimmer is. He's the guy that was on Friends always blubbering on about his feelings or something. Can you imagine this guy playing along side of John Wayne in the Sands of Iwo Jima? I was really struck by this pussification at my son's t-ball game last summer. It was warm and sunny but nothing unusual. A mother came out of the stands and asked me, the coach, if I had sun screen and water for the kids. I just sort of looked at her in a mystified state. I said we have hats and a bubbler behind the back stop. T-ball is not really known for making kids sweat much at all and I figured sun tan lotion is for the beach. I'm not opposed to a kid running over to the bubbler for a drink. She then proceeded to spray sun screen on all 15 kids and practically forced them to gulp some bottled water. Parents in the stands literally cheered her for her safety first approach. I just sort of shrugged it off but later I heard one boy comment to Mrs. Worrywart's kid, "Why was your mom spraying us with that stuff. You're mom's stupid." A few other kids chimed in as well and Mrs. Worrywart's son just sort of sat there in a state of slumped resignation. It pretty much ended at that but I was just a little inspired to know that masculinity is still inherent in boys. Its society and people like Mrs. Worrywart that beat it out of them. I have been blessed with three sons and counting. It's my mission in life to see that they don't become metrosexuals. My wife can harp on them about washing their hands and not farting at the dinner table but I'm in charge of what they do out of the house. They're boy's boys complete with dirty faces and skinned knees. They jump, wrestle and horse play at every opportunity. They are not and will not be pussies. Of course this will be a challenge in this day and age of hand wringing and anti-anxiety medications. I was called into school for one of my kids this year. A kid cut in front of him in line and he corrected the punk. I didn't see the big deal but the principle did so we took our licks. I still instructed him to stand up for himself, not be punked by a punk and to choose his battles wisely. At this juncture many of you are proving my point with your thoughts. Those of you that think I'm an awful father for not telling my son to ignore the bully, to tell the teacher or run away have bought into the pussification of American men lock, stock and barrel. The 4th of July weekend last year, some punks were blowing of fireworks in the park behind my house. I had no problem with this until they started launching **** into my backyard. I marched over there and gave them two choices. I guess that makes me pro-choice. They had the choice to launch their **** at my house or away from my house. The consequences of course would be different for each choice. They chose to launch away from my house- the correct choice. My neighbors chastised me for being so rash and challenging the punks. "What if they would have had a gun?" My response was that we would have had a gun fight. You see I'd rather do something and take the chance than to have my sons see me cower behind the curtains like half a fag. There was a time in this country when most men would have acted just like I did. When I was kid the adult men were all WWII vets and those guys put up with no ****. Consequently we had little crime in our neighborhood. A lot of fist fights but little crime. In that exact same neighborhood we now have the opposite. No fist fights but a **** load of bull**** crime and good men that do nothing. They have all the excuses down about having kids, fearing lawsuits and guns but all this is simply caving into cowardice. Maybe I'm an anomaly but I was taught that it's my job as the man of the house to put his balls on the line from time to time. This means protecting my home and neighborhood. I don't have problem with this and it comes quite natural but I learned this throughout a childhood and adolescent of rough play and risk taking. I'm not talking about foolishness here. I'm talking about bravery, toughness and balls. These used to be cherished traits among men and women admired these qualities in men as well. Nowadays we are all confused about these things. Being a hard dude doesn't mean you are misogynistic piece of **** that we see glorified in rap videos. A real man has a big heart that he reserves for his family and friends. For the assholes in the world he has his balls, big ones. We have a lot of social problems in our country these days and everyone has their pet theory that explains the reasons for the proliferation of these problems. Conservatives blame big government and welfare. Liberals think we don't have enough big government and welfare. It's the Koch brother's fault! Blame it on the Clintons! Bull****. I blame it on men who have ceased to be men. Behind ever battered woman, every knocked up teenage girl and every punk firing off guns indiscriminately are millions of men that won't do their jobs as fathers or simply as stand up guys that won't abide by bull****. Men have become pussified in America but I won't have any part of it. How about you? --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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Butch Hatfield fired this volley in
: There was a time in this country when most men would have acted just like I did. When I was kid the adult men were all WWII vets and those guys put up with no ****. Consequently we had little crime in our neighborhood. A lot of fist fights but little crime. In that exact same neighborhood we now have the opposite. No fist fights but a **** load of bull**** crime and good men that do nothing. They have all the excuses down about having kids, fearing lawsuits and guns but all this is simply caving into cowardice. Amen! Of the fifty or so kids my age in high school, only TWO ever got in trouble. One for running 'shine', and another for beating up his mom. We had LOTs of fistfights (which often the PhysEd coach refereed, and nobody went on detention, they just got a little beat up!), and almost NO violent crimes -- not just among the teens, but in the whole community. Everybody says now, "Don't get involved." Hell! I was involved since 13. I was a Boy Scout when it was looked on as 'not cool'. I volunteered for military service when everyone else was protesting the war in Viet Nam. And I did NOT do it because I was 'gung ho', or wanted to be in firefights. I did NOT want to be in firefights. I didn't want to go to war. But serving in the military was part of us. It was something you did as a rite of passage. We could use a little more of that type of life. Lloyd |
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The Pussification of the American Male
On Sat, 17 May 2014 19:21:50 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: Butch Hatfield fired this volley in : There was a time in this country when most men would have acted just like I did. When I was kid the adult men were all WWII vets and those guys put up with no ****. Consequently we had little crime in our neighborhood. A lot of fist fights but little crime. In that exact same neighborhood we now have the opposite. No fist fights but a **** load of bull**** crime and good men that do nothing. They have all the excuses down about having kids, fearing lawsuits and guns but all this is simply caving into cowardice. Amen! Of the fifty or so kids my age in high school, only TWO ever got in trouble. One for running 'shine', and another for beating up his mom. We had LOTs of fistfights (which often the PhysEd coach refereed, and nobody went on detention, they just got a little beat up!), and almost NO violent crimes -- not just among the teens, but in the whole community. Everybody says now, "Don't get involved." Hell! I was involved since 13. I was a Boy Scout when it was looked on as 'not cool'. I volunteered for military service when everyone else was protesting the war in Viet Nam. And I did NOT do it because I was 'gung ho', or wanted to be in firefights. I did NOT want to be in firefights. I didn't want to go to war. But serving in the military was part of us. It was something you did as a rite of passage. We could use a little more of that type of life. Lloyd Very well put!! -- " I was once told by a “gun safety” advocate back in the Nineties that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation. Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that? I began to give him a reasoned answer and he cut me off with an abrupt, “Give me the short answer.” I thought for a moment and said, “If you try to take our firearms we will kill you.”" |
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The Pussification of the American Male
"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com on Sat, 17 May
2014 19:21:50 -0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: Butch Hatfield fired this volley in : There was a time in this country when most men would have acted just like I did. When I was kid the adult men were all WWII vets and those guys put up with no ****. Consequently we had little crime in our neighborhood. A lot of fist fights but little crime. In that exact same neighborhood we now have the opposite. No fist fights but a **** load of bull**** crime and good men that do nothing. They have all the excuses down about having kids, fearing lawsuits and guns but all this is simply caving into cowardice. Amen! Of the fifty or so kids my age in high school, only TWO ever got in trouble. One for running 'shine', and another for beating up his mom. Well, the first one is covered under the general rubric of "apprentice ship" but the other one - nope, no how. We had LOTs of fistfights (which often the PhysEd coach refereed, and nobody went on detention, they just got a little beat up!), and almost NO violent crimes -- not just among the teens, but in the whole community. Do tell, I remember a couple where both were storming out of the building heading for the far side of the parking lot to get "off campus". And I figure the ex-high school wrestlers were on their own when they went at it, waiting for the Base Commissary to open. Now, Mr Alvarez didn't take kindly to it, and they didn't work that day. But that was all. Everybody says now, "Don't get involved." Hell! I was involved since 13. I was a Boy Scout when it was looked on as 'not cool'. I volunteered for military service when everyone else was protesting the war in Viet Nam. And I did NOT do it because I was 'gung ho', or wanted to be in firefights. I did NOT want to be in firefights. I didn't want to go to war. But serving in the military was part of us. I have often wished I could be a "vet". I'm not so sure about being a "combat vet" ... but I suppose that would be an interesting question for another time: knowing then what you know now, and given an honorable alternative - how many combat vets would rather just be "a vet"? Or a "[conflict name] era vet."? [My brother was kind of content to be a "Grenada Invasion Era" Veteran. OTOH, he was also happy to be part of the DoD Nuclear Yacht Club too.] It was something you did as a rite of passage. We could use a little more of that type of life. Lloyd -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." |
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The Pussification of the American Male
pyotr filipivich fired this volley in
: but I suppose that would be an interesting question for another time: knowing then what you know now, and given an honorable alternative - how many combat vets would rather just be "a vet"? Or a "[conflict name] era vet."? I've often had that very conversation with my wife. I came home with only one small hole in me, and no lasting problems from it. A lot of guys in my unit did not. She's asked me, "Do you wish you hadn't done it?" The answer is pretty simple. I wouldn't want to do it again (except) to save my life. But I wouldn't have foregone the experience for anything. Lloyd |
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On Mon, 19 May 2014 12:37:21 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: pyotr filipivich fired this volley in : but I suppose that would be an interesting question for another time: knowing then what you know now, and given an honorable alternative - how many combat vets would rather just be "a vet"? Or a "[conflict name] era vet."? I've often had that very conversation with my wife. I came home with only one small hole in me, and no lasting problems from it. A lot of guys in my unit did not. She's asked me, "Do you wish you hadn't done it?" The answer is pretty simple. I wouldn't want to do it again (except) to save my life. But I wouldn't have foregone the experience for anything. Lloyd Very well stated. Gunner -- " I was once told by a “gun safety” advocate back in the Nineties that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation. Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that? I began to give him a reasoned answer and he cut me off with an abrupt, “Give me the short answer.” I thought for a moment and said, “If you try to take our firearms we will kill you.”" |
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"... often mistaken for the wrath of God" .... was The Pussification of the American Male
Gunner Asch on Mon, 19 May 2014 16:43:25 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Mon, 19 May 2014 12:37:21 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: pyotr filipivich fired this volley in m: but I suppose that would be an interesting question for another time: knowing then what you know now, and given an honorable alternative - how many combat vets would rather just be "a vet"? Or a "[conflict name] era vet."? I've often had that very conversation with my wife. I came home with only one small hole in me, and no lasting problems from it. A lot of guys in my unit did not. She's asked me, "Do you wish you hadn't done it?" The answer is pretty simple. I wouldn't want to do it again (except) to save my life. But I wouldn't have foregone the experience for anything. Lloyd Very well stated. Kind of what I figured. Not something any sane [for some values of sane] person would want to do, but ... "if someone had to do it, better e than some sad sack." I'll just say, I'd like to be a vet. A lifer even. But if I was, I'd rather have spent my entire career in training exercises, than have to go to war. But then again, that is why they were sending 'me' to all those exercises: " ... Often mistaken for the wrath of God." Even my semi-pacifist* GF figured that if you had an army, you needed to use it. If you didn't intend to use it, might as well reduce it to just enough to have parades on holidays. okay, what I figured. tschus pyotr *semi-pacifist: didn't believe war was a good thing, but if you intended to have one, get it over quickly by killing them fastest. Iroquois meets Teuton. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." |
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The Pussification of the American Male
"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com on Mon, 19 May
2014 12:37:21 -0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: pyotr filipivich fired this volley in : but I suppose that would be an interesting question for another time: knowing then what you know now, and given an honorable alternative - how many combat vets would rather just be "a vet"? Or a "[conflict name] era vet."? I've often had that very conversation with my wife. I came home with only one small hole in me, and no lasting problems from it. A lot of guys in my unit did not. She's asked me, "Do you wish you hadn't done it?" The answer is pretty simple. I wouldn't want to do it again (except) to save my life. But I wouldn't have foregone the experience for anything. Yeah. Like I say, I grew up around 'heros'. [GI Brat till I was twenty-one] Most of them were "You couldn't pay me enough to do it again, but I wouldn't exchange it for a million dollars" (back when that was "Real Money") Lloyd -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." |
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"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
... Yeah. Like I say, I grew up around 'heros'. [GI Brat till I was twenty-one] Most of them were "You couldn't pay me enough to do it again, but I wouldn't exchange it for a million dollars" (back when that was "Real Money") pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." The military has millennia of experience turning arrogant, self-centered punks into mature adults fit to maintain civilized society. Of course some need the whack upside the head and the lessons of how to lead, follow and cooperate much more than others, and some will never rise above cannon fodder. I think that is its most useful societal function unless the Horde is coming. In college the recent veterans stood out as substantially more focused and self-disciplined than the rest of us. jsw |
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pyotr filipivich wrote:
.. I have often wished I could be a "vet". I'm not so sure about being a "combat vet" ... but I suppose that would be an interesting question for another time: knowing then what you know now, and given an honorable alternative - how many combat vets would rather just be "a vet"? Or a "[conflict name] era vet."? [My brother was kind of content to be a "Grenada Invasion Era" Veteran. OTOH, he was also happy to be part of the DoD Nuclear Yacht Club too.] Wishes - only those who have never been there have those. As for combat vets - well all vets are vets, but combat vets hold a special place for their peers. Peacetime vets are just not the same. DoD Yacht Club? Come on... thunbs down on that one. -- -Mike- |
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"Butch Hatfield" wrote in message
Is it just me or have we become a nation of pussies? And where was I when this cosmic shift took place? "Momism", "Generation of Vipers", Philip Wylie, 1942. -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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The Pussification of the American Male
Butch Hatfield wrote on Sat 17 May 2014
03:59:34p Why are you crossposting this to the metal- and woodworking newsgroups, you infantile *******??? -- The Enraged Apostate @EnragedApostate Double Facepalm Irony: (1) crazy right-wing gun fondlers advocating that guns ought to be taken away from the mentally ill (2) ...and that government ought to be the one who decides who is mentally ill! |
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