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woodchucker[_3_] March 20th 14 01:11 AM

wierd grading on Columbia Birch.. Made in USA says ON-GRADE
 
I can't find anything about ON-GRADE anywhere.
I went to Columbia's site could not find anything.

Don't know what it means.
see: http://i.imgur.com/eqrXfhj.jpg

Anyone have an idea, got it from HD a few months ago for 51 cents before
they stopped doing 51 cents..

The 51 cents were for the remnants of what someone already paid for. ie
they bought a full sheet but only needed a portion of it and had it
cut.. the rest would go to .51 or 1.02.. no more. Now HD wants 70% of
the retail value.

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Gramps' shop March 20th 14 05:01 AM

wierd grading on Columbia Birch.. Made in USA says ON-GRADE
 
Maybe a missing "C" as on con grade for construction? Just my wild ass guess.

Larry

dadiOH[_3_] March 20th 14 12:06 PM

wierd grading on Columbia Birch.. Made in USA says ON-GRADE
 
"woodchucker" wrote in message

I can't find anything about ON-GRADE anywhere.
I went to Columbia's site could not find anything.

Don't know what it means.
see: http://i.imgur.com/eqrXfhj.jpg



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jloomis[_2_] March 20th 14 01:01 PM

wierd grading on Columbia Birch.. Made in USA says ON-GRADE
 
Not sure what on grade....
I have a saying here to clients....
The grade is #2 or better.......
#3 or better.....
I tell clients............the grade........"It doesn't get any better"

john

"woodchucker" wrote in message
...

I can't find anything about ON-GRADE anywhere.
I went to Columbia's site could not find anything.

Don't know what it means.
see: http://i.imgur.com/eqrXfhj.jpg

Anyone have an idea, got it from HD a few months ago for 51 cents before
they stopped doing 51 cents..

The 51 cents were for the remnants of what someone already paid for. ie
they bought a full sheet but only needed a portion of it and had it
cut.. the rest would go to .51 or 1.02.. no more. Now HD wants 70% of
the retail value.

--
Jeff


woodchucker[_3_] March 20th 14 02:10 PM

wierd grading on Columbia Birch.. Made in USA says ON-GRADE
 
On 3/20/2014 1:01 AM, Gramps' shop wrote:
Maybe a missing "C" as on con grade for construction? Just my wild ass guess.

Larry


So one face looks like an A face, the other a C face..
But ON???

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dpb March 20th 14 02:13 PM

wierd grading on Columbia Birch.. Made in USA says ON-GRADE
 
On 3/20/2014 9:10 AM, woodchucker wrote:
On 3/20/2014 1:01 AM, Gramps' shop wrote:
Maybe a missing "C" as on con grade for construction? Just my wild ass
guess.

Larry


So one face looks like an A face, the other a C face..
But ON???


Seems like a reasonable guess from the letters but looking at the stamp
on the picture doesn't look like the chance of anything being missing is
high since it's so clear over the entire edge so I doubt that's the answer.

Did you try the "contact us" link to ask Columbia directly? Since they
have so many specialty products it's likely got a meaning specific to
them would be my guess.

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woodchucker[_3_] March 20th 14 02:32 PM

wierd grading on Columbia Birch.. Made in USA says ON-GRADE
 
On 3/20/2014 10:13 AM, dpb wrote:
On 3/20/2014 9:10 AM, woodchucker wrote:
On 3/20/2014 1:01 AM, Gramps' shop wrote:
Maybe a missing "C" as on con grade for construction? Just my wild ass
guess.

Larry


So one face looks like an A face, the other a C face..
But ON???


Seems like a reasonable guess from the letters but looking at the stamp
on the picture doesn't look like the chance of anything being missing is
high since it's so clear over the entire edge so I doubt that's the answer.

Did you try the "contact us" link to ask Columbia directly? Since they
have so many specialty products it's likely got a meaning specific to
them would be my guess.

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No I didn't.
Just figured a search on their site would explain it, and it didn't.
I guess I could go that route.


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dpb March 20th 14 05:25 PM

wierd grading on Columbia Birch.. Made in USA says ON-GRADE
 
On 3/20/2014 9:32 AM, woodchucker wrote:
On 3/20/2014 10:13 AM, dpb wrote:

....

Did you try the "contact us" link to ask Columbia directly? Since they
have so many specialty products it's likely got a meaning specific to
them would be my guess.

....

No I didn't.
Just figured a search on their site would explain it, and it didn't.
I guess I could go that route.


I didn't see it at a top level, either, but then again I didn't try to
read the detail product data sheet on every product category, either... :)

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Swingman March 25th 14 11:39 PM

wierd grading on Columbia Birch.. Made in USA says ON-GRADE
 
On 3/19/2014 8:11 PM, woodchucker wrote:

I can't find anything about ON-GRADE anywhere.
I went to Columbia's site could not find anything.

Don't know what it means.
see: http://i.imgur.com/eqrXfhj.jpg


I've always thought it was relevant to "appearance" ... IOW, the
"appearance" of the plywood is "on grade" if it coincides with the
standard plywood grading system of the country or area with regard to
the "appearance" of lumber grade it is produced from.

But, I could be wrong ...

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woodchucker[_3_] March 26th 14 02:59 AM

wierd grading on Columbia Birch.. Made in USA says ON-GRADE
 
On 3/25/2014 7:39 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 3/19/2014 8:11 PM, woodchucker wrote:

I can't find anything about ON-GRADE anywhere.
I went to Columbia's site could not find anything.

Don't know what it means.
see: http://i.imgur.com/eqrXfhj.jpg


I've always thought it was relevant to "appearance" ... IOW, the
"appearance" of the plywood is "on grade" if it coincides with the
standard plywood grading system of the country or area with regard to
the "appearance" of lumber grade it is produced from.

But, I could be wrong ...


Sorry, I'm not following.

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Swingman March 26th 14 11:47 AM

wierd grading on Columbia Birch.. Made in USA says ON-GRADE
 
woodchucker wrote:
On 3/25/2014 7:39 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 3/19/2014 8:11 PM, woodchucker wrote:

I can't find anything about ON-GRADE anywhere.
I went to Columbia's site could not find anything.

Don't know what it means.
see: http://i.imgur.com/eqrXfhj.jpg


I've always thought it was relevant to "appearance" ... IOW, the
"appearance" of the plywood is "on grade" if it coincides with the
standard plywood grading system of the country or area with regard to
the "appearance" of lumber grade it is produced from.

But, I could be wrong ...


Sorry, I'm not following.


Helps to understand how lumber is graded for specific use.

When it comes to a specific _use_ for interior, furniture, shop, etc.,
both hardwoods and softwoods are graded based on "appearance".

Hardwoods are basically "appearance" graded (board size and clear surface
area) as a rule; softwoods are generally either one of two categories
"construction" grade (strength), or "appearance" grade (finish and select),
depending upon use.

With regard to the original question, you will find the phrase "on-grade"
used mostly by global suppliers. I don't know it as a fact, but, from lack
of any other guidance, I have presumed the phrase, in regard to the product
designated as such, was to indicate it was in compliance with said
"appearance based" grading standards??

Again, I could be wrong in that regard ...

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dpb March 26th 14 01:24 PM

wierd grading on Columbia Birch.. Made in USA says ON-GRADE
 
On 3/26/2014 6:47 AM, Swingman wrote:
....

With regard to the original question, you will find the phrase "on-grade"
used mostly by global suppliers. I don't know it as a fact, but, from lack
of any other guidance, I have presumed the phrase, in regard to the product
designated as such, was to indicate it was in compliance with said
"appearance based" grading standards??

Again, I could be wrong in that regard ...


Seems a plausible supposition; I don't recall having ever seen it before
the posted picture. Then again, we don't have any of the big box stores
around here...

Interestingly, like OP I did some searching and found no reference
whatever to it in any of the ply association trade group sites or
grading references, nor did a search at the Forest Products Lab site
return any seemingly relevant hits. I didn't spend a lot of time, but
generally stuff will show up pretty quickly...

But, that's as a good a guess as we gots at the moment until/unless OP
does contact Columbia and gets an answer and then lets us know what they
say...

I'd also guess it's that or something very similar.

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woodchucker[_3_] March 26th 14 02:36 PM

wierd grading on Columbia Birch.. Made in USA says ON-GRADE
 
On 3/26/2014 9:24 AM, dpb wrote:
On 3/26/2014 6:47 AM, Swingman wrote:
...

With regard to the original question, you will find the phrase "on-grade"
used mostly by global suppliers. I don't know it as a fact, but, from
lack
of any other guidance, I have presumed the phrase, in regard to the
product
designated as such, was to indicate it was in compliance with said
"appearance based" grading standards??

Again, I could be wrong in that regard ...


Seems a plausible supposition; I don't recall having ever seen it before
the posted picture. Then again, we don't have any of the big box stores
around here...

Interestingly, like OP I did some searching and found no reference
whatever to it in any of the ply association trade group sites or
grading references, nor did a search at the Forest Products Lab site
return any seemingly relevant hits. I didn't spend a lot of time, but
generally stuff will show up pretty quickly...

But, that's as a good a guess as we gots at the moment until/unless OP
does contact Columbia and gets an answer and then lets us know what they
say...

I'd also guess it's that or something very similar.

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I did send Columbia an email asking what it meant the next day. I have
not heard back.


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