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And The Creek Keeps Ris'n
Lew Hodgett wrote:
Gas was $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon (02/26/11). --------------------------------------------- Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (03/04/11). Gas is $3.77/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon (03/04/11). --------------------------------------- Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (03/11/11). Gas is ONLY $3.81/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon. ------------------------------------ Same bat time, same bat place except two weeks later (03/24/11). Gas is ONLY $3.87/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon. ------------------------------------ Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (04/01/11). Gas is ONLY $3.91/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday morning (04/01/11) ----------------------------------- Gas is ONLY $3.93/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon.(04/01/11). ----------------------------------------- Gas is ONLY $3.99/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Monday afternoon.(04/03/11). ---------------------------------------- Gas is ONLY $4.07/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Monday afternoon.(04/11/11). Wonder what Friday will bring? ----------------------------------------- Gas is ONLY $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon.(04/15/11). ----------------------------------------- Gas is still ONLY $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon.(04/22/11). ----------------------------------------- We are still gaining on it. Gas is still ONLY $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon.(04/29/11). Looks like the rest of the country is catching up with California this week. ----------------------------------------- Spoke too soon, Later today (04/29/11), gas is now ONLY $4.13/gal at the local cash & carry Arco this Friday afternoon.(04/29/11). ------------------------------------------------------- Surprise!! Monday morning (05/09/11), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. Thursday morning (05/12/11), the price of gas is now $4.05/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. --------------------------------------------- Another surprise. Monday morning (05/16/11), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. Looks like the crest is still holding, at least for the moment. Alternate energy anybody? Looks like Lowes is starting to sell solar panel systems, at least here in California. ---------------------------------------------- Are they playing with us or what? Friday afternoon (05/20/11), the price of gas is now $3.95/gal at the local cash & carry Arco which is still above 04/01/11 price levels. ------------------------------------- Monday morning (05/23/11), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. Are they jerking our chains or what? ------------------------------------- Tuesday morning (05/24/11), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (06/03/11), the price of gas is now $3.81/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (06/07/11), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (06/13/11), the price of gas is now $3.77/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (06/14/11), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (06/17/11), the price of gas is now $3.74/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (06/21/11), the price of gas is now $3.71/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon (06/23/11), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (06/27/11), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon (06/29/11), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (07/04/11), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday morning (07/15/11), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. Guess the sleigh ride is over. ------------------------------------- Tuesday morning (08/09/11), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday evening (08/11/11), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. Haven't seen that price since 02/26/11. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (08/15/11), the price of gas is now $3.53/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (08/22/11), the price of gas is now back up to $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (08/26/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Sunday afternoon (08/28/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.71/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon (09/01/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.75/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday evening (09/01/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday evening (09/02/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- WEdnesday evening (09/14/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.83/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday evening (09/16/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon (09/22/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.75/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Sunday afternoon (09/25/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (09/26/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.71/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon (09/28/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (09/30/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (10/3/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.61/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (10/04/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (10/11/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon (10/12/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (10/14/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (10/18/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.77/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Saturday afternoon (10/22/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (10/25/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (11/15/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (11/21/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Saturday afternoon (11/26/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco, which is where this all started on 02/26/11. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (11/29/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (12/02/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.45/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. The chain jerking continues. ------------------------------------- Monday morning (12/05/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.43/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (12/09/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.39/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon (12/14/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.35/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (12/19/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.29/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Merry Christmas, (12/25/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.35/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon, (12/28/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.39/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (12/29/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.45/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Saturday morning afternoon, (12/31/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. Happy New Year. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (01/02/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (01/26/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.57/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Sunday afternoon, (01/29/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (02/02/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.61/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon, (02/08/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.63/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (02/10/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------ Sunday night, (02/12/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon, (02/15/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.75/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (02/16/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (02/17/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday night, (02/17/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. That's a $0.20/gal increase in a week. ------------------------------------ Monday night, (02/20/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.93/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday night, (02/21/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.97/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday night, (02/22/12), the price of gas is now up to $4.03/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday night, (02/23/12), the price of gas is now up to $4.11/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday night, (02/27/12), the price of gas is now up to $4.19/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday night, (02/28/12), the price of gas is now up to $4.23/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday night, (02/29/12), the price of gas is now up to $4.25/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday night, (03/01/12), the price of gas is now up to $4.27/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Tuesday night, (03/06/12), the price of gas is now down to $4.23/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Monday night, (03/19/12), the price of gas is now down to $4.17/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Thursday night, (03/22/12), the price of gas is now down to $4.15/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Monday night, (03/26/12), the price of gas is now down to $4.13/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Saturday night, (03/31/12), the price of gas is now down to $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (04/09/12), the price of gas is now down to $4.05/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Sunday afternoon, (05/13/12), the price of gas is now $4.19/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon, (05/15/12), the price of gas is now $4.25/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon, (05/23/12), the price of gas is now $4.15/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (05/25/12), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (05/30/12), the price of gas is now $4.05/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (06/07/12), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (06/11/12), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon, (06/12/12), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (06/15/12), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday evening, (06/18/12), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (06/25/12), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon, (06/27/12), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry. Price hasn't been this low since 02/26/11 when this post first started. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon, (07/04/12), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (07/09/12), the price of gas is now $3.44/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Sunday afternoon, (07/15/12), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (07/16/12), the price of gas is now $3.53/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (07/19/12), the price of gas is now $3.57/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Saturday afternoon, (07/21/12), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Wednesday evening, (08/08/12), the price of gas is now $3.77/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (08/10/12), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (08/1/12), the price of gas is now $3.91/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (08/31/12), the price of gas is now $3.95/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon, (10/02/12), the price of gas is now $4.03/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon, (10/03/12), the price of gas is now $4.17/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (10/04/12), the price of gas is now $4.37/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (10/05/12), the price of gas is now $4.51/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday morning, (10/08/12), the price of gas is now $4.55/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning, (10/12/12), the price of gas is now $4.49/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday evening, (10/15/12), the price of gas is now $4.45/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning, (10/17/12), the price of gas is now $4.43/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday evening, (10/17/12), the price of gas is now $4.39/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday evening, (10/19/12), the price of gas is now $4.35/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday morning, (10/20/12), the price of gas is now $4.29/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday afternoon, (10/22/12), the price of gas is now $4.15/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Tuesday afternoon, (10/23/12), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon, (10/24/12), the price of gas is now $4.05/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday morning, (10/25/12), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning, (10/26/12), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday afternoon, (10/29/12), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon, (10/31/12), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon, (11/02/12), the price of gas is now $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon, (11/07/12), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday afternoon, (11/08/12), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning, (11/16/12), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Tuesday morning, (11/20/12), the price of gas is now $3.57/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday morning, (11/29/12), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday morning, (12/06/12), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon, (12/14/12), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon, (01/05/13), the price of gas is now $3.43/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon, (01/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon, (01/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon, (02/02/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Sunday morning, (02/03/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning, (02/08/13), the price of gas is now $3.97/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon, (02/09/13), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday afternoon, (02/11/13), the price of gas is now $4.03/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon, (02/16/13), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Tuesday afternoon, (02/19/13), the price of gas is now $4.15/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon, (03/09/13), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday morning, (03/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.93/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday morning, (03/23/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Tuesday afternoon, (04/09/13), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon, (04/12/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday afternoon, (04/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Tuesday afternoon, (04/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon, (05/10/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon, (05/11/13), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Sunday afternoon, (05/12/13), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Tuesday morning, (05/14/13), the price of gas is now $3.87/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning, (05/15/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning (05/31/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday morning (06/24/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning (06/28/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning (07/03/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning (07/19/13), the price of gas is now $3.91/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday morning (08/08/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Sunday morning (08/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Sunday morning (08/25/13), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Sunday morning (09/01/13), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning (09/04/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday evening (09/07/13), the price of gas is now $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon (09/11/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon (09/13/13), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday night (09/13/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday night (09/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday night (09/23/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning (09/25/13), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning (10/02/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday evening (10/03/13), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday evening (10/05/13), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday evening (10/14/13), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday morning (10/19/13), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday afternoon (10/24/13), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon (10/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon (11/15/13), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon (11/22/13), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning (12/04/13), the price of gas is now $3.43/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon (12/284/13), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday afternoon (12/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon (01/15/14), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at the local cash & carry. The chain jerking continues. Alternate energy anybody? Lew |
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#42
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And The Creek Keeps Ris'n
Lew Hodgett wrote:
Gas was $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon (02/26/11). --------------------------------------------- Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (03/04/11). Gas is $3.77/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon (03/04/11). --------------------------------------- Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (03/11/11). Gas is ONLY $3.81/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon. ------------------------------------ Same bat time, same bat place except two weeks later (03/24/11). Gas is ONLY $3.87/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon. ------------------------------------ Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (04/01/11). Gas is ONLY $3.91/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday morning (04/01/11) ----------------------------------- Gas is ONLY $3.93/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon.(04/01/11). ----------------------------------------- Gas is ONLY $3.99/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Monday afternoon.(04/03/11). ---------------------------------------- Gas is ONLY $4.07/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Monday afternoon.(04/11/11). Wonder what Friday will bring? ----------------------------------------- Gas is ONLY $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon.(04/15/11). ----------------------------------------- Gas is still ONLY $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon.(04/22/11). ----------------------------------------- We are still gaining on it. Gas is still ONLY $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon.(04/29/11). Looks like the rest of the country is catching up with California this week. ----------------------------------------- Spoke too soon, Later today (04/29/11), gas is now ONLY $4.13/gal at the local cash & carry Arco this Friday afternoon.(04/29/11). ------------------------------------------------------- Surprise!! Monday morning (05/09/11), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. Thursday morning (05/12/11), the price of gas is now $4.05/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. --------------------------------------------- Another surprise. Monday morning (05/16/11), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. Looks like the crest is still holding, at least for the moment. Alternate energy anybody? Looks like Lowes is starting to sell solar panel systems, at least here in California. ---------------------------------------------- Are they playing with us or what? Friday afternoon (05/20/11), the price of gas is now $3.95/gal at the local cash & carry Arco which is still above 04/01/11 price levels. ------------------------------------- Monday morning (05/23/11), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. Are they jerking our chains or what? ------------------------------------- Tuesday morning (05/24/11), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (06/03/11), the price of gas is now $3.81/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (06/07/11), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (06/13/11), the price of gas is now $3.77/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (06/14/11), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (06/17/11), the price of gas is now $3.74/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (06/21/11), the price of gas is now $3.71/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon (06/23/11), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (06/27/11), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon (06/29/11), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (07/04/11), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday morning (07/15/11), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. Guess the sleigh ride is over. ------------------------------------- Tuesday morning (08/09/11), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday evening (08/11/11), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. Haven't seen that price since 02/26/11. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (08/15/11), the price of gas is now $3.53/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (08/22/11), the price of gas is now back up to $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (08/26/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Sunday afternoon (08/28/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.71/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon (09/01/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.75/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday evening (09/01/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday evening (09/02/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- WEdnesday evening (09/14/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.83/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday evening (09/16/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon (09/22/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.75/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Sunday afternoon (09/25/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (09/26/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.71/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon (09/28/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (09/30/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (10/3/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.61/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (10/04/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (10/11/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon (10/12/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (10/14/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (10/18/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.77/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Saturday afternoon (10/22/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (10/25/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (11/15/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (11/21/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Saturday afternoon (11/26/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco, which is where this all started on 02/26/11. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (11/29/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (12/02/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.45/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. The chain jerking continues. ------------------------------------- Monday morning (12/05/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.43/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (12/09/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.39/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon (12/14/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.35/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (12/19/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.29/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Merry Christmas, (12/25/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.35/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon, (12/28/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.39/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (12/29/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.45/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Saturday morning afternoon, (12/31/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. Happy New Year. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (01/02/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (01/26/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.57/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Sunday afternoon, (01/29/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (02/02/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.61/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon, (02/08/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.63/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (02/10/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------ Sunday night, (02/12/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon, (02/15/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.75/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (02/16/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (02/17/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday night, (02/17/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. That's a $0.20/gal increase in a week. ------------------------------------ Monday night, (02/20/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.93/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday night, (02/21/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.97/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday night, (02/22/12), the price of gas is now up to $4.03/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday night, (02/23/12), the price of gas is now up to $4.11/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday night, (02/27/12), the price of gas is now up to $4.19/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday night, (02/28/12), the price of gas is now up to $4.23/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday night, (02/29/12), the price of gas is now up to $4.25/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday night, (03/01/12), the price of gas is now up to $4.27/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Tuesday night, (03/06/12), the price of gas is now down to $4.23/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Monday night, (03/19/12), the price of gas is now down to $4.17/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Thursday night, (03/22/12), the price of gas is now down to $4.15/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Monday night, (03/26/12), the price of gas is now down to $4.13/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Saturday night, (03/31/12), the price of gas is now down to $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (04/09/12), the price of gas is now down to $4.05/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Sunday afternoon, (05/13/12), the price of gas is now $4.19/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon, (05/15/12), the price of gas is now $4.25/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon, (05/23/12), the price of gas is now $4.15/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (05/25/12), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (05/30/12), the price of gas is now $4.05/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (06/07/12), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (06/11/12), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon, (06/12/12), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (06/15/12), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday evening, (06/18/12), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (06/25/12), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon, (06/27/12), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry. Price hasn't been this low since 02/26/11 when this post first started. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon, (07/04/12), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (07/09/12), the price of gas is now $3.44/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Sunday afternoon, (07/15/12), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (07/16/12), the price of gas is now $3.53/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (07/19/12), the price of gas is now $3.57/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Saturday afternoon, (07/21/12), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Wednesday evening, (08/08/12), the price of gas is now $3.77/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (08/10/12), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (08/1/12), the price of gas is now $3.91/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (08/31/12), the price of gas is now $3.95/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon, (10/02/12), the price of gas is now $4.03/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon, (10/03/12), the price of gas is now $4.17/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (10/04/12), the price of gas is now $4.37/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (10/05/12), the price of gas is now $4.51/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday morning, (10/08/12), the price of gas is now $4.55/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning, (10/12/12), the price of gas is now $4.49/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday evening, (10/15/12), the price of gas is now $4.45/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning, (10/17/12), the price of gas is now $4.43/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday evening, (10/17/12), the price of gas is now $4.39/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday evening, (10/19/12), the price of gas is now $4.35/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday morning, (10/20/12), the price of gas is now $4.29/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday afternoon, (10/22/12), the price of gas is now $4.15/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Tuesday afternoon, (10/23/12), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon, (10/24/12), the price of gas is now $4.05/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday morning, (10/25/12), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning, (10/26/12), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday afternoon, (10/29/12), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon, (10/31/12), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon, (11/02/12), the price of gas is now $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon, (11/07/12), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday afternoon, (11/08/12), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning, (11/16/12), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Tuesday morning, (11/20/12), the price of gas is now $3.57/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday morning, (11/29/12), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday morning, (12/06/12), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon, (12/14/12), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon, (01/05/13), the price of gas is now $3.43/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon, (01/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon, (01/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon, (02/02/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Sunday morning, (02/03/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning, (02/08/13), the price of gas is now $3.97/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon, (02/09/13), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday afternoon, (02/11/13), the price of gas is now $4.03/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon, (02/16/13), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Tuesday afternoon, (02/19/13), the price of gas is now $4.15/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon, (03/09/13), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday morning, (03/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.93/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday morning, (03/23/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Tuesday afternoon, (04/09/13), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon, (04/12/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday afternoon, (04/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Tuesday afternoon, (04/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon, (05/10/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon, (05/11/13), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Sunday afternoon, (05/12/13), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Tuesday morning, (05/14/13), the price of gas is now $3.87/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning, (05/15/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning (05/31/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday morning (06/24/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning (06/28/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning (07/03/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning (07/19/13), the price of gas is now $3.91/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday morning (08/08/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Sunday morning (08/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Sunday morning (08/25/13), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Sunday morning (09/01/13), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning (09/04/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday evening (09/07/13), the price of gas is now $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon (09/11/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon (09/13/13), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday night (09/13/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday night (09/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday night (09/23/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning (09/25/13), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning (10/02/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday evening (10/03/13), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday evening (10/05/13), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday evening (10/14/13), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday morning (10/19/13), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday afternoon (10/24/13), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon (10/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon (11/15/13), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon (11/22/13), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning (12/04/13), the price of gas is now $3.43/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon (12/284/13), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday afternoon (12/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon (01/15/14), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday afternoon (02/10/14), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry. 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And The Creek Keeps Ris'n
Stop your complaining.
You just got some water, enough to give you 25% restock from what the news said. So don't complain about the fuel. |
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And The Creek Keeps Ris'n
Lew Hodgett wrote:
Gas was $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon (02/26/11). --------------------------------------------- Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (03/04/11). Gas is $3.77/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon (03/04/11). --------------------------------------- Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (03/11/11). Gas is ONLY $3.81/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon. ------------------------------------ Same bat time, same bat place except two weeks later (03/24/11). Gas is ONLY $3.87/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon. ------------------------------------ Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (04/01/11). Gas is ONLY $3.91/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday morning (04/01/11) ----------------------------------- Gas is ONLY $3.93/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon.(04/01/11). ----------------------------------------- Gas is ONLY $3.99/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Monday afternoon.(04/03/11). ---------------------------------------- Gas is ONLY $4.07/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Monday afternoon.(04/11/11). Wonder what Friday will bring? ----------------------------------------- Gas is ONLY $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon.(04/15/11). ----------------------------------------- Gas is still ONLY $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon.(04/22/11). ----------------------------------------- We are still gaining on it. Gas is still ONLY $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon.(04/29/11). Looks like the rest of the country is catching up with California this week. ----------------------------------------- Spoke too soon, Later today (04/29/11), gas is now ONLY $4.13/gal at the local cash & carry Arco this Friday afternoon.(04/29/11). ------------------------------------------------------- Surprise!! Monday morning (05/09/11), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. Thursday morning (05/12/11), the price of gas is now $4.05/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. --------------------------------------------- Another surprise. Monday morning (05/16/11), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. Looks like the crest is still holding, at least for the moment. Alternate energy anybody? Looks like Lowes is starting to sell solar panel systems, at least here in California. ---------------------------------------------- Are they playing with us or what? Friday afternoon (05/20/11), the price of gas is now $3.95/gal at the local cash & carry Arco which is still above 04/01/11 price levels. ------------------------------------- Monday morning (05/23/11), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. Are they jerking our chains or what? ------------------------------------- Tuesday morning (05/24/11), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (06/03/11), the price of gas is now $3.81/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (06/07/11), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (06/13/11), the price of gas is now $3.77/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (06/14/11), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (06/17/11), the price of gas is now $3.74/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (06/21/11), the price of gas is now $3.71/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon (06/23/11), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (06/27/11), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon (06/29/11), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (07/04/11), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday morning (07/15/11), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. Guess the sleigh ride is over. ------------------------------------- Tuesday morning (08/09/11), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday evening (08/11/11), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. Haven't seen that price since 02/26/11. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (08/15/11), the price of gas is now $3.53/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (08/22/11), the price of gas is now back up to $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (08/26/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Sunday afternoon (08/28/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.71/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon (09/01/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.75/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday evening (09/01/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday evening (09/02/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- WEdnesday evening (09/14/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.83/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday evening (09/16/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon (09/22/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.75/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Sunday afternoon (09/25/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (09/26/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.71/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon (09/28/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (09/30/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (10/3/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.61/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (10/04/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (10/11/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon (10/12/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (10/14/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (10/18/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.77/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Saturday afternoon (10/22/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (10/25/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon (11/15/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (11/21/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Saturday afternoon (11/26/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco, which is where this all started on 02/26/11. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (11/29/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (12/02/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.45/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. The chain jerking continues. ------------------------------------- Monday morning (12/05/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.43/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon (12/09/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.39/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon (12/14/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.35/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon (12/19/11), the price of gas is now down to $3.29/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Merry Christmas, (12/25/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.35/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon, (12/28/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.39/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (12/29/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.45/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Saturday morning afternoon, (12/31/11), the price of gas is now up to $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. Happy New Year. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (01/02/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (01/26/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.57/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Sunday afternoon, (01/29/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (02/02/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.61/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon, (02/08/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.63/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (02/10/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------ Sunday night, (02/12/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon, (02/15/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.75/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (02/16/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (02/17/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Friday night, (02/17/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. That's a $0.20/gal increase in a week. ------------------------------------ Monday night, (02/20/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.93/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday night, (02/21/12), the price of gas is now up to $3.97/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday night, (02/22/12), the price of gas is now up to $4.03/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday night, (02/23/12), the price of gas is now up to $4.11/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Monday night, (02/27/12), the price of gas is now up to $4.19/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Tuesday night, (02/28/12), the price of gas is now up to $4.23/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Wednesday night, (02/29/12), the price of gas is now up to $4.25/gal at the local cash & carry Arco. ------------------------------------- Thursday night, (03/01/12), the price of gas is now up to $4.27/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Tuesday night, (03/06/12), the price of gas is now down to $4.23/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Monday night, (03/19/12), the price of gas is now down to $4.17/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Thursday night, (03/22/12), the price of gas is now down to $4.15/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Monday night, (03/26/12), the price of gas is now down to $4.13/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Saturday night, (03/31/12), the price of gas is now down to $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (04/09/12), the price of gas is now down to $4.05/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------- Sunday afternoon, (05/13/12), the price of gas is now $4.19/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon, (05/15/12), the price of gas is now $4.25/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon, (05/23/12), the price of gas is now $4.15/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (05/25/12), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (05/30/12), the price of gas is now $4.05/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (06/07/12), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (06/11/12), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon, (06/12/12), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (06/15/12), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday evening, (06/18/12), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (06/25/12), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon, (06/27/12), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry. Price hasn't been this low since 02/26/11 when this post first started. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon, (07/04/12), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (07/09/12), the price of gas is now $3.44/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Sunday afternoon, (07/15/12), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (07/16/12), the price of gas is now $3.53/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (07/19/12), the price of gas is now $3.57/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Saturday afternoon, (07/21/12), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Wednesday evening, (08/08/12), the price of gas is now $3.77/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (08/10/12), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday afternoon, (08/1/12), the price of gas is now $3.91/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (08/31/12), the price of gas is now $3.95/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Tuesday afternoon, (10/02/12), the price of gas is now $4.03/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Wednesday afternoon, (10/03/12), the price of gas is now $4.17/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Thursday afternoon, (10/04/12), the price of gas is now $4.37/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Friday afternoon, (10/05/12), the price of gas is now $4.51/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------- Monday morning, (10/08/12), the price of gas is now $4.55/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning, (10/12/12), the price of gas is now $4.49/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday evening, (10/15/12), the price of gas is now $4.45/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning, (10/17/12), the price of gas is now $4.43/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday evening, (10/17/12), the price of gas is now $4.39/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday evening, (10/19/12), the price of gas is now $4.35/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday morning, (10/20/12), the price of gas is now $4.29/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday afternoon, (10/22/12), the price of gas is now $4.15/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Tuesday afternoon, (10/23/12), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon, (10/24/12), the price of gas is now $4.05/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday morning, (10/25/12), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning, (10/26/12), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday afternoon, (10/29/12), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon, (10/31/12), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon, (11/02/12), the price of gas is now $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon, (11/07/12), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday afternoon, (11/08/12), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning, (11/16/12), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Tuesday morning, (11/20/12), the price of gas is now $3.57/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday morning, (11/29/12), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday morning, (12/06/12), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon, (12/14/12), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon, (01/05/13), the price of gas is now $3.43/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon, (01/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon, (01/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon, (02/02/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Sunday morning, (02/03/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning, (02/08/13), the price of gas is now $3.97/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon, (02/09/13), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday afternoon, (02/11/13), the price of gas is now $4.03/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon, (02/16/13), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Tuesday afternoon, (02/19/13), the price of gas is now $4.15/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon, (03/09/13), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday morning, (03/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.93/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday morning, (03/23/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Tuesday afternoon, (04/09/13), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at the local cash & carry ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon, (04/12/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday afternoon, (04/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Tuesday afternoon, (04/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon, (05/10/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon, (05/11/13), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Sunday afternoon, (05/12/13), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Tuesday morning, (05/14/13), the price of gas is now $3.87/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning, (05/15/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning (05/31/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday morning (06/24/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning (06/28/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning (07/03/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday morning (07/19/13), the price of gas is now $3.91/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday morning (08/08/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Sunday morning (08/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Sunday morning (08/25/13), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Sunday morning (09/01/13), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning (09/04/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday evening (09/07/13), the price of gas is now $3.73/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon (09/11/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon (09/13/13), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday night (09/13/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday night (09/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday night (09/23/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning (09/25/13), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning (10/02/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday evening (10/03/13), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday evening (10/05/13), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday evening (10/14/13), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday morning (10/19/13), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Thursday afternoon (10/24/13), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon (10/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon (11/15/13), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Friday afternoon (11/22/13), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday morning (12/04/13), the price of gas is now $3.43/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Saturday afternoon (12/284/13), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday afternoon (12/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon (01/15/14), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Monday afternoon (02/10/14), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at the local cash & carry. ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon (02/12/14), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash & carry. 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On 2/12/2014 7:57 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote: ------------------------------------ Wednesday afternoon (02/12/14), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at the local cash& carry. The chain jerking continues. Alternate energy anybody? Lew Oh golly, Lew. You ain't seen nothin yet! None of us ever have... http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pri_spt_s1_d.htm |
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"woodchucker" wrote: Stop your complaining. You just got some water, enough to give you 25% restock from what the news said. So don't complain about the fuel. ------------------------------------------------------ You miss it completely. Personally, I'd like to see $10/gallon gasoline/diesel. That would probably wake people up to more quickly develop alternate energy sources and get us off our almost total dependance on fossil fuels, but then again............................ Lew |
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On 2/12/2014 8:27 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
"woodchucker" wrote: Stop your complaining. You just got some water, enough to give you 25% restock from what the news said. So don't complain about the fuel. ------------------------------------------------------ You miss it completely. Personally, I'd like to see $10/gallon gasoline/diesel. That would probably wake people up to more quickly develop alternate energy sources and get us off our almost total dependance on fossil fuels, but then again............................ Lew Basic economics, Lew. The reason there are no viable alternative energy systems is simply that they can't compete at $4 a gallon of gasoline. $4 gas is cheaper Maybe they can compete at $10 a gallon for gas. But that pins energy at he $10 a gallon level. It won't bring the price of alternative energy down. |
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On 2/12/2014 9:27 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
"woodchucker" wrote: Stop your complaining. You just got some water, enough to give you 25% restock from what the news said. So don't complain about the fuel. ------------------------------------------------------ You miss it completely. Personally, I'd like to see $10/gallon gasoline/diesel. That would probably wake people up to more quickly develop alternate energy sources and get us off our almost total dependance on fossil fuels, but then again............................ Lew So stop jerking our chain already. -- Jeff |
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"Richard" wrote: Basic economics, Lew. The reason there are no viable alternative energy systems is simply that they can't compete at $4 a gallon of gasoline. $4 gas is cheaper Maybe they can compete at $10 a gallon for gas. But that pins energy at he $10 a gallon level. It won't bring the price of alternative energy down. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check the prices for natural gas for the truck market. They already beat diesel and provides a "bridge" fuel to reduced carbon dumping into the air we all breathe. The price of electric vehicles continue to drop and will be more attractive as alternate sources of electrical generation continue to come on line. There are already hydrogen fueling stations here in California that allow you to drive the entire length of California in a fuel cell powered vehicle. There is no question that energy costs will continue to rise, but what is the cost of climate change we are beginning to experience as a result of excessive use of fossil fuels? Stop the federal subsidies for fossil fuels and see how long $4/gallon gasoline lasts. Off shore wind and hydro offer significant opportunities. Now that Ted Kennedy is gone, expect the windmill off Cape Cod to finally get installed and become operative. Yes this problem will be solved and as with most tough problems, California will take the lead in solving it. Lew |
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On 2/12/2014 9:34 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Yes this problem will be solved and as with most tough problems, California will take the lead in solving it. "California۬: The Governor of California is jogging with his dog along a nature trail. A coyote jumps out and attacks the Governor's dog, then bites the Governor.۬۬The Governor starts to intervene, but reflects upon the movie "Bambi" and then realizes he should stop because the coyote is only doing what is natural.۬۬ He calls animal control. Animal Control captures the coyote and bills the state $200 testing it for diseases and $500 for relocating it.۬۬ He calls a veterinarian. The vet collects the dead dog and bills the State $200 testing it for diseases.۬۬The Governor goes to hospital and spends $3,500 getting checked for diseases from the coyote and on getting his bite wound bandaged.۬۬The running trail gets shut down for 6 months while Fish & Game conducts a $100,000 survey to make sure the area is now free of dangerous animals.۬۬The Governor spends $50,000 in state funds implementing a "coyote awareness program" for residents of the area.۬۬The State Legislature spends $2 million to study how to better treat rabies and how to permanently eradicate the disease throughout the world.۬۬ The Governor's security agent is put on administrative leave with full pay for 6 months for not stopping the attack. The state spends $150,000 to hire and train a new agent with additional special training re the nature of coyotes. ۬۬PETA protests the coyote's relocation and files a $5 million suit against the state.۬۬۬ Texas: ۬The Governor of Texas is jogging with his dog along a nature trail. A coyote jumps out and attacks his dog. ۬۬The Governor shoots the coyote with his pistol and keeps jogging. The Governor has spent $.50 on a .45 ACP hollow point cartridge.۬۬ The buzzards eat the dead coyote.۬۬ And that, my friends, is why California is broke and Texas is not." Not mine, but as long as Lew is dreamin'.. -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net https://www.google.com/+eWoodShop https://plus.google.com/+KarlCaillouet/posts http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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On 2/12/2014 10:34 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Richard" wrote: Basic economics, Lew. The reason there are no viable alternative energy systems is simply that they can't compete at $4 a gallon of gasoline. $4 gas is cheaper Maybe they can compete at $10 a gallon for gas. But that pins energy at he $10 a gallon level. It won't bring the price of alternative energy down. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check the prices for natural gas for the truck market. They already beat diesel and provides a "bridge" fuel to reduced carbon dumping into the air we all breathe. The price of electric vehicles continue to drop and will be more attractive as alternate sources of electrical generation continue to come on line. There are already hydrogen fueling stations here in California that allow you to drive the entire length of California in a fuel cell powered vehicle. There is no question that energy costs will continue to rise, but what is the cost of climate change we are beginning to experience as a result of excessive use of fossil fuels? Stop the federal subsidies for fossil fuels and see how long $4/gallon gasoline lasts. Off shore wind and hydro offer significant opportunities. Now that Ted Kennedy is gone, expect the windmill off Cape Cod to finally get installed and become operative. Yes this problem will be solved and as with most tough problems, California will take the lead in solving it. Lew As far as electric cars, sounds good, but the batteries are still the issue. And charging them is still using fuel. Mostly coal from power companies, so your point is? This is a WW forum right, occasional OT fine, but you bring this up all the time... so goto the alternative fuel news group. -- Jeff |
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On 2/12/2014 10:57 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 2/12/2014 9:34 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote: Yes this problem will be solved and as with most tough problems, California will take the lead in solving it. "California۬: The Governor of California is jogging with his dog along a nature trail. A coyote jumps out and attacks the Governor's dog, then bites the Governor.۬۬The Governor starts to intervene, but reflects upon the movie "Bambi" and then realizes he should stop because the coyote is only doing what is natural.۬۬ He calls animal control. Animal Control captures the coyote and bills the state $200 testing it for diseases and $500 for relocating it.۬۬ He calls a veterinarian. The vet collects the dead dog and bills the State $200 testing it for diseases.۬۬The Governor goes to hospital and spends $3,500 getting checked for diseases from the coyote and on getting his bite wound bandaged.۬۬The running trail gets shut down for 6 months while Fish & Game conducts a $100,000 survey to make sure the area is now free of dangerous animals.۬۬The Governor spends $50,000 in state funds implementing a "coyote awareness program" for residents of the area.۬۬The State Legislature spends $2 million to study how to better treat rabies and how to permanently eradicate the disease throughout the world.۬۬ The Governor's security agent is put on administrative leave with full pay for 6 months for not stopping the attack. The state spends $150,000 to hire and train a new agent with additional special training re the nature of coyotes. ۬۬PETA protests the coyote's relocation and files a $5 million suit against the state.۬۬۬ Texas: ۬The Governor of Texas is jogging with his dog along a nature trail. A coyote jumps out and attacks his dog. ۬۬The Governor shoots the coyote with his pistol and keeps jogging. The Governor has spent $.50 on a .45 ACP hollow point cartridge.۬۬ The buzzards eat the dead coyote.۬۬ And that, my friends, is why California is broke and Texas is not." Not mine, but as long as Lew is dreamin'.. Californication... That poor coyote... Was it Wiley Coyote.. I'll bet he survived ;-) -- Jeff |
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"Swingman" wrote: ?The Governor of Texas is jogging with his dog along a nature trail. A coyote jumps out and attacks his dog. ??The Governor shoots the coyote with his pistol and keeps jogging. -------------------------------------------------------- Assume you have that gov on a leash or at least a muzzle. Lew |
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On 2/12/2014 8:27 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
"woodchucker" wrote: Stop your complaining. You just got some water, enough to give you 25% restock from what the news said. So don't complain about the fuel. ------------------------------------------------------ You miss it completely. Personally, I'd like to see $10/gallon gasoline/diesel. That would probably wake people up to more quickly develop alternate energy sources and get us off our almost total dependance on fossil fuels, but then again............................ Lew I think you miss it completely Lew, Energy whether it be from the wind or the sun will be heavily taxed to support the liberals. |
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On 2/12/2014 9:34 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Richard" wrote: Basic economics, Lew. The reason there are no viable alternative energy systems is simply that they can't compete at $4 a gallon of gasoline. $4 gas is cheaper Maybe they can compete at $10 a gallon for gas. But that pins energy at he $10 a gallon level. It won't bring the price of alternative energy down. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check the prices for natural gas for the truck market. They already beat diesel and provides a "bridge" fuel to reduced carbon dumping into the air we all breathe. The price of electric vehicles continue to drop and will be more attractive as alternate sources of electrical generation continue to come on line. There are already hydrogen fueling stations here in California that allow you to drive the entire length of California in a fuel cell powered vehicle. There is no question that energy costs will continue to rise, but what is the cost of climate change we are beginning to experience as a result of excessive use of fossil fuels? Stop the federal subsidies for fossil fuels and see how long $4/gallon gasoline lasts. Off shore wind and hydro offer significant opportunities. Now that Ted Kennedy is gone, expect the windmill off Cape Cod to finally get installed and become operative. Yes this problem will be solved and as with most tough problems, California will take the lead in solving it. Lew As soon as all of your alternative energies become main stream and the demand goes up so will the price. Economics 101. |
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On 2/12/2014 9:34 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Richard" wrote: Basic economics, Lew. The reason there are no viable alternative energy systems is simply that they can't compete at $4 a gallon of gasoline. $4 gas is cheaper Maybe they can compete at $10 a gallon for gas. But that pins energy at he $10 a gallon level. It won't bring the price of alternative energy down. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check the prices for natural gas for the truck market. They already beat diesel and provides a "bridge" fuel to reduced carbon dumping into the air we all breathe. Supply and demand, Lew. That's how it all works. Add demand for natural gas and the price goes up. The price of electric vehicles continue to drop and will be more attractive as alternate sources of electrical generation continue to come on line. There are already hydrogen fueling stations here in California that allow you to drive the entire length of California in a fuel cell powered vehicle. Again, add demand and see what happens... There is no question that energy costs will continue to rise, but what is the cost of climate change we are beginning to experience as a result of excessive use of fossil fuels? Ah, I see. Global warming due to man's foolishness, huh? Stop the federal subsidies for fossil fuels and see how long $4/gallon gasoline lasts. Take the ethanol out so that cars get better mileage! Off shore wind and hydro offer significant opportunities. Now that Ted Kennedy is gone, expect the windmill off Cape Cod to finally get installed and become operative. Yes this problem will be solved and as with most tough problems, California will take the lead in solving it. California is broke, buddy. But like the feds, they keep on spending anyway... Lew |
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On 2/12/2014 11:11 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Swingman" wrote: ?The Governor of Texas is jogging with his dog along a nature trail. A coyote jumps out and attacks his dog. ??The Governor shoots the coyote with his pistol and keeps jogging. -------------------------------------------------------- Assume you have that gov on a leash or at least a muzzle. Lew Rick Perry? Muzzled? Ho, you funny! |
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On 2/13/2014 10:11 AM, Richard wrote:
On 2/12/2014 9:34 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote: "Richard" wrote: Basic economics, Lew. The reason there are no viable alternative energy systems is simply that they can't compete at $4 a gallon of gasoline. $4 gas is cheaper Maybe they can compete at $10 a gallon for gas. But that pins energy at he $10 a gallon level. It won't bring the price of alternative energy down. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check the prices for natural gas for the truck market. They already beat diesel and provides a "bridge" fuel to reduced carbon dumping into the air we all breathe. Supply and demand, Lew. That's how it all works. Actually in the last many years that explanation no longer holds water. There is a good supply and relatively low demand. What drives gasoline prices now is "what the market will bare". I cab buy upper tier gasoline from Chevron at 2.87 and one block north pay 3.09 at Exxon a lower tier station. Gasoline prices are pretty much set at what a particular station thinks it can or wants to charge. I have a smart phone app that shows local gasoline prices and the prices differ greatly within a few miles even among the same brands. |
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A side note about buying new vehicles - and I think especially electric
cars! http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2014/02/11/here-how-much-need-to-make-to-afford-new-car/?intcmp=obnetwork short quote: If your entire net worth is $100,000, and you put $30,000 of it into a vehicle that will lose 60% of its value, you’re just being financially and mathematically stupid. Your income is your largest and most powerful wealth-building tool. If you’re buying things that go the wrong way in terms of value, you’re not gaining wealth; you’re losing wealth. There’s really nothing special about $1 million. I could have said $2 million or $900,000, but $1 million is easy to remember. Plus, it’s nothing to sneeze at in terms of an individual’s net worth. When you lose a lot, and it’s a small percentage of a lot, you don’t have to worry so much. But when you lose a lot and you didn’t have much to begin with, that’s a recipe for financial disaster! |
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On 2/13/2014 9:48 AM, Leon wrote:
On 2/13/2014 10:11 AM, Richard wrote: On 2/12/2014 9:34 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote: "Richard" wrote: Basic economics, Lew. The reason there are no viable alternative energy systems is simply that they can't compete at $4 a gallon of gasoline. $4 gas is cheaper Maybe they can compete at $10 a gallon for gas. But that pins energy at he $10 a gallon level. It won't bring the price of alternative energy down. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check the prices for natural gas for the truck market. They already beat diesel and provides a "bridge" fuel to reduced carbon dumping into the air we all breathe. Supply and demand, Lew. That's how it all works. Actually in the last many years that explanation no longer holds water. There is a good supply and relatively low demand. What drives gasoline prices now is "what the market will bare". I cab buy upper tier gasoline from Chevron at 2.87 and one block north pay 3.09 at Exxon a lower tier station. Gasoline prices are pretty much set at what a particular station thinks it can or wants to charge. I have a smart phone app that shows local gasoline prices and the prices differ greatly within a few miles even among the same brands. By "differ greatly" you probably mean plus or minus 10%. Price differences in other "staples" such as food and clothing can very MUCH more than that. When the difference in gas prices is plus or minus 30%, y'all let us know. |
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On 2/13/2014 12:46 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
On 2/13/2014 9:48 AM, Leon wrote: On 2/13/2014 10:11 AM, Richard wrote: On 2/12/2014 9:34 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote: "Richard" wrote: Basic economics, Lew. The reason there are no viable alternative energy systems is simply that they can't compete at $4 a gallon of gasoline. $4 gas is cheaper Maybe they can compete at $10 a gallon for gas. But that pins energy at he $10 a gallon level. It won't bring the price of alternative energy down. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check the prices for natural gas for the truck market. They already beat diesel and provides a "bridge" fuel to reduced carbon dumping into the air we all breathe. Supply and demand, Lew. That's how it all works. Actually in the last many years that explanation no longer holds water. There is a good supply and relatively low demand. What drives gasoline prices now is "what the market will bare". I cab buy upper tier gasoline from Chevron at 2.87 and one block north pay 3.09 at Exxon a lower tier station. Gasoline prices are pretty much set at what a particular station thinks it can or wants to charge. I have a smart phone app that shows local gasoline prices and the prices differ greatly within a few miles even among the same brands. By "differ greatly" you probably mean plus or minus 10%. Price differences in other "staples" such as food and clothing can very MUCH more than that. When the difference in gas prices is plus or minus 30%, y'all let us know. I'm not sure where you were going with that. I was pointing out that supply and demand is not what is causing the relatively wide fluctuation in prices in "gasoline" within a one mile radius. When I say differ greatly, I mean for example you can go one mile west to the Chevron station and pay 22 cents per gallon less than if you one mile east to the Exxon station. Which way are you going to go?? In that example it is all about how much are you willing to pay. |
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On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 10:48:59 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote: On 2/13/2014 10:11 AM, Richard wrote: On 2/12/2014 9:34 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote: "Richard" wrote: Basic economics, Lew. The reason there are no viable alternative energy systems is simply that they can't compete at $4 a gallon of gasoline. $4 gas is cheaper Maybe they can compete at $10 a gallon for gas. But that pins energy at he $10 a gallon level. It won't bring the price of alternative energy down. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check the prices for natural gas for the truck market. They already beat diesel and provides a "bridge" fuel to reduced carbon dumping into the air we all breathe. Supply and demand, Lew. That's how it all works. Actually in the last many years that explanation no longer holds water. There is a good supply and relatively low demand. What drives gasoline prices now is "what the market will bare". I cab buy upper tier gasoline from Chevron at 2.87 and one block north pay 3.09 at Exxon a lower tier station. Chevron here is at least $.30 higher than everyone else. BP (no Exxon) is a nickel more. Gasoline prices are pretty much set at what a particular station thinks it can or wants to charge. What's not Econ 101 about that? I have a smart phone app that shows local gasoline prices and the prices differ greatly within a few miles even among the same brands. Sure. Econ 101. |
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On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 16:27:04 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote: On 2/13/2014 12:46 PM, Just Wondering wrote: On 2/13/2014 9:48 AM, Leon wrote: On 2/13/2014 10:11 AM, Richard wrote: On 2/12/2014 9:34 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote: "Richard" wrote: Basic economics, Lew. The reason there are no viable alternative energy systems is simply that they can't compete at $4 a gallon of gasoline. $4 gas is cheaper Maybe they can compete at $10 a gallon for gas. But that pins energy at he $10 a gallon level. It won't bring the price of alternative energy down. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check the prices for natural gas for the truck market. They already beat diesel and provides a "bridge" fuel to reduced carbon dumping into the air we all breathe. Supply and demand, Lew. That's how it all works. Actually in the last many years that explanation no longer holds water. There is a good supply and relatively low demand. What drives gasoline prices now is "what the market will bare". I cab buy upper tier gasoline from Chevron at 2.87 and one block north pay 3.09 at Exxon a lower tier station. Gasoline prices are pretty much set at what a particular station thinks it can or wants to charge. I have a smart phone app that shows local gasoline prices and the prices differ greatly within a few miles even among the same brands. By "differ greatly" you probably mean plus or minus 10%. Price differences in other "staples" such as food and clothing can very MUCH more than that. When the difference in gas prices is plus or minus 30%, y'all let us know. I'm not sure where you were going with that. I was pointing out that supply and demand is not what is causing the relatively wide fluctuation in prices in "gasoline" within a one mile radius. It is supply and demand. People are using something other than price to determine where to buy. When I say differ greatly, I mean for example you can go one mile west to the Chevron station and pay 22 cents per gallon less than if you one mile east to the Exxon station. Which way are you going to go?? Obviously, some are willing to pay more to buy *there*. By the same logic, you're saying that home prices aren't decided by "supply and demand", either? In that example it is all about how much are you willing to pay. Do the prices at Exxon go up and down with the prices at Chevron? If not, maybe I could buy your argument but I'll bet they do. |
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Ivanpah thermal solar project comes on line.
Three year construction in Mojave desert comes on line. Will supply power for 140,000 homes in SoCal. Replaces San Onofre nuclear facility taken off line. Reduces CO2 emissions by 400,000 tons annually. We are gaining on it. Google Ivanpah thermal solar project for more info. BTW, "Ivanpah" is a town near where project is located. Lew |
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On 2/13/2014 7:44 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Ivanpah thermal solar project comes on line. Three year construction in Mojave desert comes on line. Will supply power for 140,000 homes in SoCal. Replaces San Onofre nuclear facility taken off line. Reduces CO2 emissions by 400,000 tons annually. We are gaining on it. Google Ivanpah thermal solar project for more info. BTW, "Ivanpah" is a town near where project is located. Lew There is a problem with solar panels though Lew, because they absorb so much sun, they heat up the area. So all the windmills affected the wind currents. The solar panels will affect the temperatures. There's no free lunch. I too am concious of the energy problems, and waste problems we have. I had read about the super collectors where mirrors focus the light and follow the sun, that also has problems. Then there is the current GE commercial showing harnessing the ocean, that too if built in big farms will have major issues. Imagine that effecting the ocean currents, or chopping whales in half that venture too close... Many options in moderation might be the answer, but no single method will wind up providing the answer, and thats the problem. Fuel cells... it's expensive to break up water into hyrdrogen and oxygen.It requires high amounts of electricty.. NO FREE LUNCH.. not today. -- Jeff |
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On 2/13/2014 6:59 PM, woodchucker wrote:
On 2/13/2014 7:44 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote: Ivanpah thermal solar project comes on line. Three year construction in Mojave desert comes on line. Will supply power for 140,000 homes in SoCal. Replaces San Onofre nuclear facility taken off line. Reduces CO2 emissions by 400,000 tons annually. We are gaining on it. Google Ivanpah thermal solar project for more info. BTW, "Ivanpah" is a town near where project is located. Lew There is a problem with solar panels though Lew, because they absorb so much sun, they heat up the area. So all the windmills affected the wind currents. The solar panels will affect the temperatures. And the manufacturing process uses some very nasty chemistry as well! Greeners tend to overlook the manufacturing load. Inconvenient... |
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On 2/13/2014 8:30 PM, Richard wrote:
On 2/13/2014 6:59 PM, woodchucker wrote: On 2/13/2014 7:44 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote: Ivanpah thermal solar project comes on line. Three year construction in Mojave desert comes on line. Will supply power for 140,000 homes in SoCal. Replaces San Onofre nuclear facility taken off line. Reduces CO2 emissions by 400,000 tons annually. We are gaining on it. Google Ivanpah thermal solar project for more info. BTW, "Ivanpah" is a town near where project is located. Lew There is a problem with solar panels though Lew, because they absorb so much sun, they heat up the area. So all the windmills affected the wind currents. The solar panels will affect the temperatures. And the manufacturing process uses some very nasty chemistry as well! Greeners tend to overlook the manufacturing load. Inconvenient... True.. remember the cash for clunkers.. that certainly could not have been a green move, jus the steel production would outweigh any benefits. Never mind the plastics, or junking the old car... But hey, some see green, others see $$$ (green).. I just see BS -- Jeff |
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Lew Hodgett wrote: Ivanpah thermal solar project comes on line. Three year construction in Mojave desert comes on line. Will supply power for 140,000 homes in SoCal. Replaces San Onofre nuclear facility taken off line. Reduces CO2 emissions by 400,000 tons annually. We are gaining on it. Google Ivanpah thermal solar project for more info. BTW, "Ivanpah" is a town near where project is located. -------------------------------------------------------- "woodchucker" wrote: There is a problem with solar panels though Lew, because they absorb so much sun, they heat up the area. So all the windmills affected the wind currents. The solar panels will affect the temperatures. There's no free lunch. I too am concious of the energy problems, and waste problems we have. I had read about the super collectors where mirrors focus the light and follow the sun, that also has problems. Then there is the current GE commercial showing harnessing the ocean, that too if built in big farms will have major issues. Imagine that effecting the ocean currents, or chopping whales in half that venture too close... Many options in moderation might be the answer, but no single method will wind up providing the answer, and thats the problem. Fuel cells... it's expensive to break up water into hyrdrogen and oxygen.It requires high amounts of electricty.. NO FREE LUNCH.. not today. ------------------------------------------------------------- Who said anything about a FREE LUNCH? Remember Newton? "For any action there is an equal but opposite reaction", comes to mind. Any new technology brings new problems with it. Solving those problems is what R & D is all about. Existing coal fired generation has/had lots of problems, (I spent a major part of my under graduate years studying them) but federal tax credits helped pay for the development of solutions many of whom were never implemented because the utilities didn't want to pay for them. For years the oil industry received a 27% annual depletion allowance on existing wells to help pay for continued exploration. These industries no longer need to receive these tax gifts, it's time to invest in new energy sources. Ivanpah is a solar/thermal project as you have read about. There are over 350,000 computer controlled reflective mirrors which re-direct the suns rays back to collector towers that heat water into steam which drives steam turbines that in turn drive the electrical generations. Sure there are going to be problems, but they will be solved. One of the biggest obstacles to overcome was financing. If it had not been for the federal gov't backing a $1.6 billion construction loan, the project would never have gotten off the ground. Fossil, fuels as we know them, are history. We can't not continue to pollute our environment. The sooner we devote ourselves, much like we did to the space program, the sooner we solve the problem. We are all in this together, whether we like it or not. Lew |
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Richard wrote: And the manufacturing process uses some very nasty chemistry as well! Greeners tend to overlook the manufacturing load. Inconvenient... -------------------------------------------------------- "woodchucker" wrote: True.. remember the cash for clunkers.. that certainly could not have been a green move, jus the steel production would outweigh any benefits. Never mind the plastics, or junking the old car... But hey, some see green, others see $$$ (green).. I just see BS -------------------------------------------------- Chalk the "cash for clunkers" program up to the oil company lawyers. It was the cheapest way to get pollution credits. Another choice was to buy a pollution generating business and close it down and use the credits purchased to offset refinery pollution. It was a way to get a lot of "dirty" businesses shut down and junk cars off the street. Lew |
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On 2/13/2014 6:44 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Ivanpah thermal solar project comes on line. Three year construction in Mojave desert comes on line. Will supply power for 140,000 homes in SoCal. Replaces San Onofre nuclear facility taken off line. Reduces CO2 emissions by 400,000 tons annually. We are gaining on it. Google Ivanpah thermal solar project for more info. BTW, "Ivanpah" is a town near where project is located. Lew all of that to contribute a drop to the swimming pool. |
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On 2/13/2014 6:59 PM, woodchucker wrote:
On 2/13/2014 7:44 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote: Ivanpah thermal solar project comes on line. Three year construction in Mojave desert comes on line. Will supply power for 140,000 homes in SoCal. Replaces San Onofre nuclear facility taken off line. Reduces CO2 emissions by 400,000 tons annually. We are gaining on it. Google Ivanpah thermal solar project for more info. BTW, "Ivanpah" is a town near where project is located. Lew There is a problem with solar panels though Lew, because they absorb so much sun, they heat up the area. What the lefties don't like to discuss is that cleaning up the atmosphere causes more heat to reach the oceans, melting ice and causing stronger and more numerous hurricanes. What the lefties don't like to discuss is the history of the climate vs. the recent past that they seem to focus on more than anything.. Liberalism, no longer just a childhood disease. |
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On 2/13/2014 7:30 PM, Richard wrote:
On 2/13/2014 6:59 PM, woodchucker wrote: On 2/13/2014 7:44 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote: Ivanpah thermal solar project comes on line. Three year construction in Mojave desert comes on line. Will supply power for 140,000 homes in SoCal. Replaces San Onofre nuclear facility taken off line. Reduces CO2 emissions by 400,000 tons annually. We are gaining on it. Google Ivanpah thermal solar project for more info. BTW, "Ivanpah" is a town near where project is located. Lew There is a problem with solar panels though Lew, because they absorb so much sun, they heat up the area. So all the windmills affected the wind currents. The solar panels will affect the temperatures. And the manufacturing process uses some very nasty chemistry as well! Greeners tend to overlook the manufacturing load. Inconvenient... Quoting our past DS VP , that is an inconvenient truth. |
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On 2/13/2014 10:47 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Richard wrote: And the manufacturing process uses some very nasty chemistry as well! Greeners tend to overlook the manufacturing load. Inconvenient... -------------------------------------------------------- "woodchucker" wrote: True.. remember the cash for clunkers.. that certainly could not have been a green move, jus the steel production would outweigh any benefits. Never mind the plastics, or junking the old car... But hey, some see green, others see $$$ (green).. I just see BS -------------------------------------------------- Chalk the "cash for clunkers" program up to the oil company lawyers. And the black helicopters. It was the cheapest way to get pollution credits. That still makes me laugh.... FWIW I awarded Swingman 1 Brazilian credits. Another choice was to buy a pollution generating business and close it down and use the credits purchased to offset refinery pollution. It was a way to get a lot of "dirty" businesses shut down and junk cars off the street. You actually think that is a good thing.... |
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On 2/13/2014 10:29 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote: Ivanpah thermal solar project comes on line. Three year construction in Mojave desert comes on line. Will supply power for 140,000 homes in SoCal. Replaces San Onofre nuclear facility taken off line. Reduces CO2 emissions by 400,000 tons annually. We are gaining on it. Google Ivanpah thermal solar project for more info. BTW, "Ivanpah" is a town near where project is located. -------------------------------------------------------- "woodchucker" wrote: There is a problem with solar panels though Lew, because they absorb so much sun, they heat up the area. So all the windmills affected the wind currents. The solar panels will affect the temperatures. There's no free lunch. I too am concious of the energy problems, and waste problems we have. I had read about the super collectors where mirrors focus the light and follow the sun, that also has problems. Then there is the current GE commercial showing harnessing the ocean, that too if built in big farms will have major issues. Imagine that effecting the ocean currents, or chopping whales in half that venture too close... Many options in moderation might be the answer, but no single method will wind up providing the answer, and thats the problem. Fuel cells... it's expensive to break up water into hyrdrogen and oxygen.It requires high amounts of electricty.. NO FREE LUNCH.. not today. ------------------------------------------------------------- Who said anything about a FREE LUNCH? Remember Newton? "For any action there is an equal but opposite reaction", comes to mind. Any new technology brings new problems with it. And problems that we have to waste time and energy 0on to solve and learn that burning oil is still the most sensible way to produce energy. And FWIW this green house, CO2 emissions, global warming/climate change "FAD" was not a problem before we started limiting vehicle emissions. If the lefties would be responsible for themselves instead of letting the government run their lives they might learn that they are the sheep being lead to slaughter. Quit relying on some one else to be responsible for taking care of you. |
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On 02/13/2014 05:44 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Ivanpah thermal solar project comes on line. Three year construction in Mojave desert comes on line. Will supply power for 140,000 homes in SoCal. Replaces San Onofre nuclear facility taken off line. Reduces CO2 emissions by 400,000 tons annually. We are gaining on it. Google Ivanpah thermal solar project for more info. BTW, "Ivanpah" is a town near where project is located. Lew http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&cad=rja& ved=0CIoBEBYwCQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2F article%2FSB10001424052702304703804579379230641329 484.html&ei=HjT-Ur6mEdjdoATl24LQCA&usg=AFQjCNFudPHm0OdCghTsVXx2WUX Nq-LqHw&sig2=lVZTle2ntqKYs0jnoRo9rA&bvm=bv.61190604,d .cGU Sounds like takes way too much land, costs four times a much as a conventional NG plant and will produce far less energy, and frys birds with its 1000 degree temperatures. -- "Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" -Winston Churchill |
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On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 21:37:06 -0500, woodchucker
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And The Creek Keeps Ris'n
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:12:18 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote: On 2/13/2014 10:29 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote: Lew Hodgett wrote: Ivanpah thermal solar project comes on line. Three year construction in Mojave desert comes on line. Will supply power for 140,000 homes in SoCal. Replaces San Onofre nuclear facility taken off line. Reduces CO2 emissions by 400,000 tons annually. We are gaining on it. Google Ivanpah thermal solar project for more info. BTW, "Ivanpah" is a town near where project is located. -------------------------------------------------------- "woodchucker" wrote: There is a problem with solar panels though Lew, because they absorb so much sun, they heat up the area. So all the windmills affected the wind currents. The solar panels will affect the temperatures. There's no free lunch. I too am concious of the energy problems, and waste problems we have. I had read about the super collectors where mirrors focus the light and follow the sun, that also has problems. Then there is the current GE commercial showing harnessing the ocean, that too if built in big farms will have major issues. Imagine that effecting the ocean currents, or chopping whales in half that venture too close... Many options in moderation might be the answer, but no single method will wind up providing the answer, and thats the problem. Fuel cells... it's expensive to break up water into hyrdrogen and oxygen.It requires high amounts of electricty.. NO FREE LUNCH.. not today. ------------------------------------------------------------- Who said anything about a FREE LUNCH? Remember Newton? "For any action there is an equal but opposite reaction", comes to mind. Any new technology brings new problems with it. And problems that we have to waste time and energy 0on to solve and learn that burning oil is still the most sensible way to produce energy. And FWIW this green house, CO2 emissions, global warming/climate change "FAD" was not a problem before we started limiting vehicle emissions. If the lefties would be responsible for themselves instead of letting the government run their lives they might learn that they are the sheep being lead to slaughter. Quit relying on some one else to be responsible for taking care of you. Even though history is filled with examples of exactly what's going on now, lefties won't learn the lesson until they get past the final turn in the stockyard. |
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