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Zz Yzx February 24th 13 06:25 PM

First aid wake-up call
 
I keep a first aid kit handy in the shop. It's a plastic case with 10
or so boxes inside. The boxes hold the usual stuff: gauze, triangular
bandage, bandage compress, tape. &tc. Each box ix securely wrapped in
sturdy plastic.

This morning my daughter put a nasty cut on her finger. It wasn't
deep but it was bleeding profusely.

I pulled out the box with the bandage compress and went to open it.
The damn plastic cover on the box was so sturdy that I couldn't tear
it open or split it at the seams wit my hands. I used a razor knife.

If I had a shop accident in which I cut my hand or fingers, I don't
think I wouldv'e been able to open the damn box. The thought of
bleeding out with an unopened compress in my hand kinna' spooks me.

-Zz

Dave[_52_] February 24th 13 06:38 PM

First aid wake-up call
 
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:25:53 -0800, Zz Yzx
If I had a shop accident in which I cut my hand or fingers, I don't
think I wouldv'e been able to open the damn box. The thought of
bleeding out with an unopened compress in my hand kinna' spooks me.


Yup, it could have been worse. Guess you're going to have to take your
preparedness a little further. I keep a first aid kit too, but I know
mine's been opened because the first thing I did when I got it was to
add a few things like tweezers for splinters, better scissors for
cutting bandages and stuff like that.

Keith nuttle February 24th 13 07:22 PM

First aid wake-up call
 
On 2/24/2013 1:25 PM, Zz Yzx wrote:
I keep a first aid kit handy in the shop. It's a plastic case with 10
or so boxes inside. The boxes hold the usual stuff: gauze, triangular
bandage, bandage compress, tape. &tc. Each box ix securely wrapped in
sturdy plastic.

This morning my daughter put a nasty cut on her finger. It wasn't
deep but it was bleeding profusely.

I pulled out the box with the bandage compress and went to open it.
The damn plastic cover on the box was so sturdy that I couldn't tear
it open or split it at the seams wit my hands. I used a razor knife.

If I had a shop accident in which I cut my hand or fingers, I don't
think I wouldv'e been able to open the damn box. The thought of
bleeding out with an unopened compress in my hand kinna' spooks me.

-Zz

That is what the roll of paper towels in the shop is for. Since it is
on a roll it is relatively clean, though not sterile. When your finger
is bleeding like a new oil well, a wad of paper towels is great compress
until you can get the proper treatment or help.

Worked for me when I cut my fingers on the saw. Good think was I got
minimal blood on the shop floor, and none on the piece I was cutting or
the saw.

Doug Winterburn February 24th 13 07:46 PM

First aid wake-up call
 
On 02/24/2013 11:25 AM, Zz Yzx wrote:
I keep a first aid kit handy in the shop. It's a plastic case with 10
or so boxes inside. The boxes hold the usual stuff: gauze, triangular
bandage, bandage compress, tape. &tc. Each box ix securely wrapped in
sturdy plastic.

This morning my daughter put a nasty cut on her finger. It wasn't
deep but it was bleeding profusely.

I pulled out the box with the bandage compress and went to open it.
The damn plastic cover on the box was so sturdy that I couldn't tear
it open or split it at the seams wit my hands. I used a razor knife.

If I had a shop accident in which I cut my hand or fingers, I don't
think I wouldv'e been able to open the damn box. The thought of
bleeding out with an unopened compress in my hand kinna' spooks me.

-Zz

Put the cut finger in fresh coffee grounds. It stops the bleeding.


--
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gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill

Mike M February 24th 13 08:49 PM

First aid wake-up call
 
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:25:53 -0800, Zz Yzx
wrote:

I keep a first aid kit handy in the shop. It's a plastic case with 10
or so boxes inside. The boxes hold the usual stuff: gauze, triangular
bandage, bandage compress, tape. &tc. Each box ix securely wrapped in
sturdy plastic.

This morning my daughter put a nasty cut on her finger. It wasn't
deep but it was bleeding profusely.

I pulled out the box with the bandage compress and went to open it.
The damn plastic cover on the box was so sturdy that I couldn't tear
it open or split it at the seams wit my hands. I used a razor knife.

If I had a shop accident in which I cut my hand or fingers, I don't
think I wouldv'e been able to open the damn box. The thought of
bleeding out with an unopened compress in my hand kinna' spooks me.

-Zz

Being an electrician I've always done well with Paper Towels and
electrical tape. To renew our license we have to have 24 CEU. One 4
hr. class is First Aid so you have a valid First Aid card on the job.
The paramedic who teaches it always recommends adding Kotex to your
emergency kit as it makes a great compress.

Mike M

woodchucker[_3_] February 24th 13 10:54 PM

First aid wake-up call
 
On 2/24/2013 2:46 PM, Doug Winterburn wrote:
On 02/24/2013 11:25 AM, Zz Yzx wrote:
I keep a first aid kit handy in the shop. It's a plastic case with 10
or so boxes inside. The boxes hold the usual stuff: gauze, triangular
bandage, bandage compress, tape. &tc. Each box ix securely wrapped in
sturdy plastic.

This morning my daughter put a nasty cut on her finger. It wasn't
deep but it was bleeding profusely.

I pulled out the box with the bandage compress and went to open it.
The damn plastic cover on the box was so sturdy that I couldn't tear
it open or split it at the seams wit my hands. I used a razor knife.

If I had a shop accident in which I cut my hand or fingers, I don't
think I wouldv'e been able to open the damn box. The thought of
bleeding out with an unopened compress in my hand kinna' spooks me.

-Zz

Put the cut finger in fresh coffee grounds. It stops the bleeding.


Really? No ****?
Stiptic pencil too.

--
Jeff

John February 24th 13 10:59 PM

First aid wake-up call
 
On 2/24/2013 3:49 PM, Mike M wrote:
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:25:53 -0800, Zz Yzx
wrote:

I keep a first aid kit handy in the shop. It's a plastic case with 10
or so boxes inside. The boxes hold the usual stuff: gauze, triangular
bandage, bandage compress, tape. &tc. Each box ix securely wrapped in
sturdy plastic.

This morning my daughter put a nasty cut on her finger. It wasn't
deep but it was bleeding profusely.

I pulled out the box with the bandage compress and went to open it.
The damn plastic cover on the box was so sturdy that I couldn't tear
it open or split it at the seams wit my hands. I used a razor knife.

If I had a shop accident in which I cut my hand or fingers, I don't
think I wouldv'e been able to open the damn box. The thought of
bleeding out with an unopened compress in my hand kinna' spooks me.

-Zz

Being an electrician I've always done well with Paper Towels and
electrical tape. To renew our license we have to have 24 CEU. One 4
hr. class is First Aid so you have a valid First Aid card on the job.
The paramedic who teaches it always recommends adding Kotex to your
emergency kit as it makes a great compress.

Mike M



But really difficult to explain to the wife :)

Swingman February 25th 13 01:37 PM

First aid wake-up call
 
On 2/24/2013 12:25 PM, Zz Yzx wrote:

If I had a shop accident in which I cut my hand or fingers, I don't
think I wouldv'e been able to open the damn box. The thought of
bleeding out with an unopened compress in my hand kinna' spooks me.


One of the reasons those blue, disposable shop towels are always on
hand/in the dispenser, and handy.

Add in a wife who absentmindedly locks the back door while you're in the
shop (the other point of egress is the driveway gate, always locked) ...
it takes three hands to apply enough pressure to stop/control the
bleeding (especially if you're on a blood thinner), and operate a key in
a deadbolt.

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Mike Stanford February 25th 13 07:24 PM

First aid wake-up call
 

"Keith Nuttle" wrote in message
...
On 2/24/2013 1:25 PM, Zz Yzx wrote:
I keep a first aid kit handy in the shop. It's a plastic case with 10
or so boxes inside. The boxes hold the usual stuff: gauze, triangular
bandage, bandage compress, tape. &tc. Each box ix securely wrapped in
sturdy plastic.

This morning my daughter put a nasty cut on her finger. It wasn't
deep but it was bleeding profusely.

I pulled out the box with the bandage compress and went to open it.
The damn plastic cover on the box was so sturdy that I couldn't tear
it open or split it at the seams wit my hands. I used a razor knife.

If I had a shop accident in which I cut my hand or fingers, I don't
think I wouldv'e been able to open the damn box. The thought of
bleeding out with an unopened compress in my hand kinna' spooks me.

-Zz

That is what the roll of paper towels in the shop is for. Since it is on
a roll it is relatively clean, though not sterile. When your finger is
bleeding like a new oil well, a wad of paper towels is great compress
until you can get the proper treatment or help.

Worked for me when I cut my fingers on the saw. Good think was I got
minimal blood on the shop floor, and none on the piece I was cutting or
the saw.

Spoken like a true Woodie



Lew Hodgett[_6_] February 25th 13 08:13 PM

First aid wake-up call
 

Dave wrote:

Yup, it could have been worse. Guess you're going to have to take
your
preparedness a little further. I keep a first aid kit too, but I know
mine's been opened because the first thing I did when I got it was to
add a few things like tweezers for splinters, better scissors for
cutting bandages and stuff like that.

----------------------------------------------------
A fellow boat builder up in Portland is also an ER Doc.

His take on most first aid kits is they are very much an
over priced collection of band aids.

He is very much in favor of assembling your own kit which
should include a bottle of betadine to sterilize open wounds,
tools, gauze pads and tape.



Lew




Keith nuttle February 25th 13 10:21 PM

First aid wake-up call
 
On 2/25/2013 3:13 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Dave wrote:

Yup, it could have been worse. Guess you're going to have to take
your
preparedness a little further. I keep a first aid kit too, but I know
mine's been opened because the first thing I did when I got it was to
add a few things like tweezers for splinters, better scissors for
cutting bandages and stuff like that.

----------------------------------------------------
A fellow boat builder up in Portland is also an ER Doc.

His take on most first aid kits is they are very much an
over priced collection of band aids.

He is very much in favor of assembling your own kit which
should include a bottle of betadine to sterilize open wounds,
tools, gauze pads and tape.



Lew


When I cut my finger on the table saw the doctor told me to do something
that makes sense but I had never heard it before. He said that before
you place the dressing on the wound cover it with one of the petroleum
jelly based three in one antibiotic creams.

This does two things, the most obvious it helps fight infections. The
petroleum jelly keeps the scabs soft and less likely to get stuck in the
bandage and pulled off. It works like a charm.


Larry Jaques[_4_] February 26th 13 02:25 AM

First aid wake-up call
 
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:49:16 -0800, Mike M
wrote:

On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:25:53 -0800, Zz Yzx
wrote:

I keep a first aid kit handy in the shop. It's a plastic case with 10
or so boxes inside. The boxes hold the usual stuff: gauze, triangular
bandage, bandage compress, tape. &tc. Each box ix securely wrapped in
sturdy plastic.

This morning my daughter put a nasty cut on her finger. It wasn't
deep but it was bleeding profusely.

I pulled out the box with the bandage compress and went to open it.
The damn plastic cover on the box was so sturdy that I couldn't tear
it open or split it at the seams wit my hands. I used a razor knife.

If I had a shop accident in which I cut my hand or fingers, I don't
think I wouldv'e been able to open the damn box. The thought of
bleeding out with an unopened compress in my hand kinna' spooks me.

-Zz

Being an electrician I've always done well with Paper Towels and
electrical tape.


I thought you, of all people, would use 240v cauterization. ;)


To renew our license we have to have 24 CEU. One 4
hr. class is First Aid so you have a valid First Aid card on the job.
The paramedic who teaches it always recommends adding Kotex to your
emergency kit as it makes a great compress.


Yeah, Gunner over in Wreck.Metalheads taught me about keeping both
kotex pads and tampons for wounds. Shove a tampon in a bullet hole so
you can keep shooting until you can take care of it properly.

--
Progress is the product of human agency. Things get better because
we make them better. Things go wrong when we get too comfortable,
when we fail to take risks or seize opportunities.
-- Susan Rice

Mike M February 26th 13 05:10 PM

First aid wake-up call
 
On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:25:28 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:49:16 -0800, Mike M
wrote:

On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:25:53 -0800, Zz Yzx
wrote:

I keep a first aid kit handy in the shop. It's a plastic case with 10
or so boxes inside. The boxes hold the usual stuff: gauze, triangular
bandage, bandage compress, tape. &tc. Each box ix securely wrapped in
sturdy plastic.

This morning my daughter put a nasty cut on her finger. It wasn't
deep but it was bleeding profusely.

I pulled out the box with the bandage compress and went to open it.
The damn plastic cover on the box was so sturdy that I couldn't tear
it open or split it at the seams wit my hands. I used a razor knife.

If I had a shop accident in which I cut my hand or fingers, I don't
think I wouldv'e been able to open the damn box. The thought of
bleeding out with an unopened compress in my hand kinna' spooks me.

-Zz

Being an electrician I've always done well with Paper Towels and
electrical tape.


I thought you, of all people, would use 240v cauterization. ;)


I worked primarily with 480, and it's been a long time since I've been
nailed but that stuff hurts. I've always had a healthy respect for
safety around electricity.

To renew our license we have to have 24 CEU. One 4
hr. class is First Aid so you have a valid First Aid card on the job.
The paramedic who teaches it always recommends adding Kotex to your
emergency kit as it makes a great compress.


Yeah, Gunner over in Wreck.Metalheads taught me about keeping both
kotex pads and tampons for wounds. Shove a tampon in a bullet hole so
you can keep shooting until you can take care of it properly.



willshak February 27th 13 02:01 PM

First aid wake-up call
 
woodchucker wrote the following on 2/24/2013 5:54 PM (ET):
On 2/24/2013 2:46 PM, Doug Winterburn wrote:
On 02/24/2013 11:25 AM, Zz Yzx wrote:
I keep a first aid kit handy in the shop. It's a plastic case with 10
or so boxes inside. The boxes hold the usual stuff: gauze, triangular
bandage, bandage compress, tape. &tc. Each box ix securely wrapped in
sturdy plastic.

This morning my daughter put a nasty cut on her finger. It wasn't
deep but it was bleeding profusely.

I pulled out the box with the bandage compress and went to open it.
The damn plastic cover on the box was so sturdy that I couldn't tear
it open or split it at the seams wit my hands. I used a razor knife.

If I had a shop accident in which I cut my hand or fingers, I don't
think I wouldv'e been able to open the damn box. The thought of
bleeding out with an unopened compress in my hand kinna' spooks me.

-Zz

Put the cut finger in fresh coffee grounds. It stops the bleeding.


Really? No ****?
Stiptic pencil too.


Also Cayenne pepper.

--
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In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
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Larry Jaques[_4_] February 27th 13 03:17 PM

First aid wake-up call
 
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:01:17 -0500, willshak
wrote:

woodchucker wrote the following on 2/24/2013 5:54 PM (ET):
On 2/24/2013 2:46 PM, Doug Winterburn wrote:
On 02/24/2013 11:25 AM, Zz Yzx wrote:
I keep a first aid kit handy in the shop. It's a plastic case with 10
or so boxes inside. The boxes hold the usual stuff: gauze, triangular
bandage, bandage compress, tape. &tc. Each box ix securely wrapped in
sturdy plastic.

This morning my daughter put a nasty cut on her finger. It wasn't
deep but it was bleeding profusely.

I pulled out the box with the bandage compress and went to open it.
The damn plastic cover on the box was so sturdy that I couldn't tear
it open or split it at the seams wit my hands. I used a razor knife.

If I had a shop accident in which I cut my hand or fingers, I don't
think I wouldv'e been able to open the damn box. The thought of
bleeding out with an unopened compress in my hand kinna' spooks me.

-Zz

Put the cut finger in fresh coffee grounds. It stops the bleeding.


Really? No ****?


Yabbut, it _ruins_ the next pot of coffee.


Stiptic pencil too.


Yes, a styptic pencil works well. I keep one around, and keep an old
container of powered potassium alum, too. I've barely dented the
contents in over 40 years of use.


Also Cayenne pepper.


Oh, it's good to hear ideas from the masochist's side.

--
When a quiet man is moved to passion, it seems the very earth will shake.
-- Stephanie Barron
(Something for the Powers That Be to remember, eh?)

Dave[_52_] February 27th 13 04:42 PM

First aid wake-up call
 
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:17:37 -0800, Larry Jaques
Also Cayenne pepper.


Oh, it's good to hear ideas from the masochist's side.


Think of it as extra punishment to remind you to be more careful next
time.

Father Haskell February 28th 13 12:43 AM

First aid wake-up call
 
On Feb 24, 5:54*pm, woodchucker wrote:
On 2/24/2013 2:46 PM, Doug Winterburn wrote:







On 02/24/2013 11:25 AM, Zz Yzx wrote:
I keep a first aid kit handy in the shop. *It's a plastic case with 10
or so boxes inside. *The boxes hold the usual stuff: gauze, triangular
bandage, bandage compress, tape. &tc. *Each box ix securely wrapped in
sturdy plastic.


This morning my daughter put a nasty cut on her finger. *It wasn't
deep but it was bleeding profusely.


I pulled out the box with the bandage compress and went to open it.
The damn plastic cover on the box was so sturdy that I couldn't tear
it open or split it at the seams wit my hands. *I used a razor knife..


If I had a shop accident in which I cut my hand or fingers, I don't
think I wouldv'e been able to open the damn box. *The thought of
bleeding out with an unopened compress in my hand kinna' spooks me.


-Zz


Put the cut finger in fresh coffee grounds. *It stops the bleeding.


Really? No ****?
Stiptic pencil too.


Superglue.

RonB[_2_] February 28th 13 02:24 PM

First aid wake-up call
 
On Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:46:10 PM UTC-6, Doug Winterburn wrote:
On 02/24/2013 11:25 AM, Zz Yzx wrote:

I keep a first aid kit handy in the shop. It's a plastic case with 10


or so boxes inside. The boxes hold the usual stuff: gauze, triangular


bandage, bandage compress, tape. &tc. Each box ix securely wrapped in


sturdy plastic.




This morning my daughter put a nasty cut on her finger. It wasn't


deep but it was bleeding profusely.




I pulled out the box with the bandage compress and went to open it.


The damn plastic cover on the box was so sturdy that I couldn't tear


it open or split it at the seams wit my hands. I used a razor knife.




If I had a shop accident in which I cut my hand or fingers, I don't


think I wouldv'e been able to open the damn box. The thought of


bleeding out with an unopened compress in my hand kinna' spooks me.




-Zz




Put the cut finger in fresh coffee grounds. It stops the bleeding.


Timely advice for me. I just had a couple of teeth extracted. The dentist sent me home with a supply of gauze pads to soak up blood and stop the bleeding. He told me that if the bleeding seemed to persist, replace the pad with a dampened tea bag inside of gauze, but he didn't think I would bleed very long.

Long story, short I did continue to bleed into the evening so I tried the tea bag trick and the bleeding stopped within 20-30 minutes (I skipped the gauze because even as big as my mouth is, everything didn't fit). Doesn't taste bad if you like hot tea.

RonB


Swingman February 28th 13 02:35 PM

First aid wake-up call
 
On 2/28/2013 8:24 AM, RonB wrote:
Timely advice for me. I just had a couple of teeth extracted. The dentist sent me home with a supply of gauze pads to soak up blood and stop the bleeding. He told me that if the bleeding seemed to persist, replace the pad with a dampened tea bag inside of gauze, but he didn't think I would bleed very long.

Long story, short I did continue to bleed into the evening so I tried the tea bag trick and the bleeding stopped within 20-30 minutes (I skipped the gauze because even as big as my mouth is, everything didn't fit). Doesn't taste bad if you like hot tea.


Heard about that, but never tried it. We are not tea drinkers, but have
tea bags for visitors on hand all the time. Based on your above, a few
bags of same are heading out to the shop first aid kit when I finish
typing this. Taking an anti-coagulant and aspirin and have been warned
about the side effects. As well as getting older not being for sissies,
and it also takes more due diligence. ;)

... thanks for jogging my memory!

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Lee Michaels[_3_] February 28th 13 03:34 PM

First aid wake-up call
 


"Swingman" wrote in message
...
On 2/28/2013 8:24 AM, RonB wrote:
Timely advice for me. I just had a couple of teeth extracted. The
dentist sent me home with a supply of gauze pads to soak up blood and
stop the bleeding. He told me that if the bleeding seemed to persist,
replace the pad with a dampened tea bag inside of gauze, but he didn't
think I would bleed very long.

Long story, short I did continue to bleed into the evening so I tried the
tea bag trick and the bleeding stopped within 20-30 minutes (I skipped
the gauze because even as big as my mouth is, everything didn't fit).
Doesn't taste bad if you like hot tea.


Heard about that, but never tried it. We are not tea drinkers, but have
tea bags for visitors on hand all the time. Based on your above, a few
bags of same are heading out to the shop first aid kit when I finish
typing this. Taking an anti-coagulant and aspirin and have been warned
about the side effects. As well as getting older not being for sissies,
and it also takes more due diligence. ;)

This is something I know about. I used to work with an herbalist and some
alternative docs.

One of the standard treatments for bleeding in folk medicine is stinging
nettle leaf; This stuff is great at stopping bleeding any way you apply it.
You can buy it in capsule form, even concentrated, which is even better.
You just take some whenever bleeding is happening or has the potential to
happen. You can open a capsule and apply the nettle leaf directly to a
wound. I have stopped a number of "bleeders" by doing that. I am sure you
can get it in tea bags as well.

Also, nettle leaf tea is often consumed by folks who are bleeding. Some
bleeding in the mouth? Just take the tea into the mouth and let it sit
there for awhile.

I should point out that there is also nettle root supplements. Although
this has healing qualities, IT IS A BLOOD THINNER!! Not to be taken if
bleeding is a problem.

Many people just take nettle leaf supps every day and load up on them if
there is any bleeding.

Another herb is tien chi or tienchi or tien chi ginseng or noto ginseng.
This is a Chinese herb that is used by their military. The Viet Cong used
it. If they got shot, they put this on the wound and took it internally.
It stopped the bleeding. It is more expensive, but it very effective.

Neither the nettle leaf or the tienchi add to "clotting". Their mechanism
of stopping the bleeding is not understood very well. But it works. And it
does not add to clotting or any kind of arterial blockage. I keep both of
them on the shelf. I have always had chronic nose bleeds and these herbs
keeps it in check.

Any way, if you are interested in this, just drop me an email and we can
talk.




Han February 28th 13 04:58 PM

First aid wake-up call
 
Swingman wrote in
:

On 2/28/2013 8:24 AM, RonB wrote:
Timely advice for me. I just had a couple of teeth extracted. The
dentist sent me home with a supply of gauze pads to soak up blood and
stop the bleeding. He told me that if the bleeding seemed to
persist, replace the pad with a dampened tea bag inside of gauze, but
he didn't think I would bleed very long.

Long story, short I did continue to bleed into the evening so I tried
the tea bag trick and the bleeding stopped within 20-30 minutes (I
skipped the gauze because even as big as my mouth is, everything
didn't fit). Doesn't taste bad if you like hot tea.


Heard about that, but never tried it. We are not tea drinkers, but
have tea bags for visitors on hand all the time. Based on your above,
a few bags of same are heading out to the shop first aid kit when I
finish typing this. Taking an anti-coagulant and aspirin and have been
warned about the side effects. As well as getting older not being for
sissies, and it also takes more due diligence. ;)

... thanks for jogging my memory!


Another use for tea is to use (roomtemperature or colder) strong tea to
tan your hide and partially reverse a sunburn. (there is a lot of tannin
in tea).

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