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RonB[_2_] June 20th 12 01:13 PM

Finish for Outdoor Redwood Furniture
 
I am building a couple of Adirondack chairs from Redwood. I found
some nice clear Redwood for most of the visible slats, arms etc.
Under-structure is construction grade Redwood. This stuff is hard to
find in Kansas.

I want to preserve the color and not let it gray out. I have googled
and found lots of recommendations for oils including teak oil and
others. So many variations I am about as confused as when I started.
A suitable penetrating oil seems to be the way to go. Do any of you
guys have experience with a similar project? They will be outdoors.

Thanks
RonB

SonomaProducts.com June 20th 12 02:40 PM

Finish for Outdoor Redwood Furniture
 
Penofin oil. It comes in clear but will darken the wood but it is beautiful. Also comes in toned colors so you can shift towards a red. I prefer the clear.

I know a local guy who builds very high-end redwood furniture and you can't get it from him without Penofin. Contractors also swear by it.

Others should confirm on here I believe.

On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 2:13:53 PM UTC+2, RonB wrote:
I am building a couple of Adirondack chairs from Redwood. I found
some nice clear Redwood for most of the visible slats, arms etc.
Under-structure is construction grade Redwood. This stuff is hard to
find in Kansas.

I want to preserve the color and not let it gray out. I have googled
and found lots of recommendations for oils including teak oil and
others. So many variations I am about as confused as when I started.
A suitable penetrating oil seems to be the way to go. Do any of you
guys have experience with a similar project? They will be outdoors.

Thanks
RonB



Baron[_3_] June 20th 12 04:31 PM

Finish for Outdoor Redwood Furniture
 
"RonB" wrote in message
...
I am building a couple of Adirondack chairs from Redwood. I found
some nice clear Redwood for most of the visible slats, arms etc.
Under-structure is construction grade Redwood. This stuff is hard to
find in Kansas.

I want to preserve the color and not let it gray out. I have googled
and found lots of recommendations for oils including teak oil and
others. So many variations I am about as confused as when I started.
A suitable penetrating oil seems to be the way to go. Do any of you
guys have experience with a similar project? They will be outdoors.

Thanks
RonB


I suggest you use the least expensive oil or oil / film finish mixture
you can find that is suitable for outdoor use. None of these finishes will
last more than a year or three. The wood turns gray due to light and water.
You will have to retreat every year. One goal is to use something that you
will not have to apply more than once a year. I do not think you would want
to apply the oil twice or three times during the spring or summer months.

Good Luck.




dadiOH[_3_] June 20th 12 05:14 PM

Finish for Outdoor Redwood Furniture
 
RonB wrote:
I am building a couple of Adirondack chairs from Redwood. I found
some nice clear Redwood for most of the visible slats, arms etc.
Under-structure is construction grade Redwood. This stuff is hard to
find in Kansas.

I want to preserve the color and not let it gray out. I have googled
and found lots of recommendations for oils including teak oil and
others. So many variations I am about as confused as when I started.


That's because the manufacturers are selling snake oil. The preponderance
of the oil finishes are using boiled linseed oil. It protects well, does
darken as it ages. How much it darkens depends upon how much was absorbed.
You wouldn't notice the darkening on redwood assuming it is heart redwood.

Another often used oil is tung oil, comes from the nut of the tung tree. It
doesn't darken, is good stuff. There are other oils derived from trees
too...penofin uses rosewood oil.

Many manufacturers also include some varnish in their product. The names
that manufacturers give their products are frequently misleading (by
design); e.g., you can bet that anything that calls itself "tung oil finish"
is mostly linseed oil with a dollop of tung.

Personally, I am happy with linseed oil, tung if I want to be fancy. It is
more expensive to buy but can be diluted with paint thinner 3-4:1.
Regardless of what you use, expect to renew it as soon as water stops
beading.

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Douglas Johnson[_2_] June 20th 12 08:03 PM

Finish for Outdoor Redwood Furniture
 
"SonomaProducts.com" wrote:

Penofin oil.
Others should confirm on here I believe.


Yep.
-- Doug

Lew Hodgett[_6_] June 20th 12 08:29 PM

Finish for Outdoor Redwood Furniture
 
''RonB" wrote:

I am building a couple of Adirondack chairs from Redwood. I found
some nice clear Redwood for most of the visible slats, arms etc.
Under-structure is construction grade Redwood. This stuff is hard
to
find in Kansas.

I want to preserve the color and not let it gray out. I have
googled
and found lots of recommendations for oils including teak oil and
others. So many variations I am about as confused as when I
started.
A suitable penetrating oil seems to be the way to go. Do any of you
guys have experience with a similar project? They will be
outdoors.


----------------------------------------
Snake oil.

What ever brand you choose, expect to apply it at least semi annualy.

Lew




Ed Pawlowski June 20th 12 10:39 PM

Finish for Outdoor Redwood Furniture
 
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 05:13:53 -0700 (PDT), RonB
wrote:

I am building a couple of Adirondack chairs from Redwood. I found
some nice clear Redwood for most of the visible slats, arms etc.
Under-structure is construction grade Redwood. This stuff is hard to
find in Kansas.

I want to preserve the color and not let it gray out. I have googled
and found lots of recommendations for oils including teak oil and
others. So many variations I am about as confused as when I started.
A suitable penetrating oil seems to be the way to go. Do any of you
guys have experience with a similar project? They will be outdoors.

Thanks
RonB


Penofin. I've used it on furniture and I'm in the process of
rebuilding my deck with Tigerwood decking. The Penofin oil makes it
look beautiful. Other wood that I've coated once a year still looks
good and has not grayed out.

John Shear June 25th 12 03:23 PM

Finish for Outdoor Redwood Furniture
 
I went to the local paint store that contractors prefer, and asked what
they use on house exteriors. Got Sikkens Cetol and have been impressed
by that.

John S.

On 06/20/2012 07:13 AM, RonB wrote:
I am building a couple of Adirondack chairs from Redwood. I found
some nice clear Redwood for most of the visible slats, arms etc.
Under-structure is construction grade Redwood. This stuff is hard to
find in Kansas.

I want to preserve the color and not let it gray out. I have googled
and found lots of recommendations for oils including teak oil and
others. So many variations I am about as confused as when I started.
A suitable penetrating oil seems to be the way to go. Do any of you
guys have experience with a similar project? They will be outdoors.

Thanks
RonB


RonB[_2_] June 25th 12 06:05 PM

Finish for Outdoor Redwood Furniture
 
On Jun 25, 9:23*am, John Shear wrote:
I went to the local paint store that contractors prefer, and asked what
they use on house exteriors. *Got Sikkens Cetol and have been impressed
by that.



Thanks
RonB


Sikkens is one that has popped up in separate research with the
Penofin that several have mentioned here. Also, I have found several
recipes for exterior finish that are similar to home-brew wiping
finish. The most common recipe is:

- 1/3 Spar Varnish
- 1/3 BLO
- 1/3 Mineral Spirits.

The ratios vary a little but the spar varnish is supposed to provide
the UV protection and flexibility. This reminded me of the Maloof
finish which was very similar and simple. I have chair #2 about 1/2
finished ant then I'm gonna have to do something.

RonB


Ed Pawlowski June 26th 12 03:18 AM

Finish for Outdoor Redwood Furniture
 
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:23:52 -0500, John Shear
wrote:

I went to the local paint store that contractors prefer, and asked what
they use on house exteriors. Got Sikkens Cetol and have been impressed
by that.

John S.


Good luck, I hope it works better for you than for me. It is supposed
to be very good, but the only outdoor wood (cypress) that ever rotted
on me had Cetol on it. Maybe I got a bad batch of wood or Cetol.

RonB[_2_] July 2nd 12 12:51 AM

Finish for Outdoor Redwood Furniture
 
On Jun 20, 7:13*am, RonB wrote:

Thanks for a lot of good input. I finished the chairs last week and
opted to go with a home-blended mixture of equal parts mineral
spirits, BLO and spar varnish. I have four coats applied and will
sand lightly for the second time tomorrow and put on a fifth and
probably final coat. The home-brew provides a beautiful finish on the
redwood, each coat slightly darker and more red.

Of course time will tell on durability.'

RonB

[email protected] February 26th 20 07:07 PM

Finish for Outdoor Redwood Furniture
 
El miércoles, 20 de junio de 2012, 5:13:53 (UTC-7), RonB escribió:
I am building a couple of Adirondack chairs from Redwood. I found
some nice clear Redwood for most of the visible slats, arms etc.
Under-structure is construction grade Redwood. This stuff is hard to
find in Kansas.

I want to preserve the color and not let it gray out. I have googled
and found lots of recommendations for oils including teak oil and
others. So many variations I am about as confused as when I started.
A suitable penetrating oil seems to be the way to go. Do any of you
guys have experience with a similar project? They will be outdoors.

Thanks
RonB


Hi Ron,

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