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I want to fix some superficial dents in the rails on a pool table.
Most of these are shallow and did not break the surface (they look like they came from impact with billiard balls). Any thoughts on using burn in sticks vs drop filling with lacquer? I assume the finish is some kind of lacquer. Thanks. Charles |
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On 4/19/12 12:14 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
wrote: I want to fix some superficial dents in the rails on a pool table. Most of these are shallow and did not break the surface (they look like they came from impact with billiard balls). Any thoughts on using burn in sticks vs drop filling with lacquer? I assume the finish is some kind of lacquer. If they are shallow - as you describe, I would try steaming them up. Do a google search and you will find a great deal of information on steaming up dents, with YouTube videos that will do much more than descriptions here can do. Yeah, but our trolls can't go to youtube because their moms still have dial-up. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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I want to fix some superficial dents in the rails on a pool table. Most of these are shallow and did not break the surface (they look like they came from impact with billiard balls). Any thoughts on using burn in sticks vs drop filling with lacquer? I assume the finish is some kind of lacquer. So - why do you assume some kind of lacquer? It may be, but I'm wondering why you arrive at that assumption. If it is, my earlier post could work well for you, as steaming can indeed bring things back. But... As for "burn in sticks" and/or "drop filling with lacquer" - I would recommend against any such ideas. You will always see that repair, or they will always be weak areas. It's really hard to say without seeing the damaged areas, but my first attempt (based on your description) would be the steam raising that I suggested in my previous post. -- -Mike- |
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On Apr 19, 1:49*pm, "Mike Marlow"
wrote: wrote: I want to fix some superficial dents in the rails on a pool table. Most of these are shallow and did not break the surface (they look like they came from impact with billiard balls). *Any thoughts on using burn in sticks vs drop filling with lacquer? *I assume the finish is some kind of lacquer. So - why do you assume some kind of lacquer? *It may be, but I'm wondering why you arrive at that assumption. *If it is, my earlier post could work well for you, as steaming can indeed bring things back. *But... As for "burn in sticks" and/or "drop filling with lacquer" - I would recommend against any such ideas. *You will always see that repair, or they will always be weak areas. It's really hard to say without seeing the damaged areas, but my first attempt (based on your description) would be the steam raising that I suggested in my previous post. -- -Mike- I have steamed out dents before very successfully on unfinished wood, but have read that the steam would likely damage a finished surface and also didn't know if it would effectively penetrate through the finish anyway. As far as why I assume lacquer, it's because I think (but am not sure) that the finish seemed to get a little softer with lacquer thinner in an inconspicous area. Charles |
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I have steamed out dents before very successfully on unfinished wood, but have read that the steam would likely damage a finished surface and also didn't know if it would effectively penetrate through the finish anyway. As far as why I assume lacquer, it's because I think (but am not sure) that the finish seemed to get a little softer with lacquer thinner in an inconspicous area. Ok - makes sense. I have steamed small dents out of guitars that were finished in nitrocelulose lacquer, so I still believe that might be worth your time to investigate. -- -Mike- |
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:28:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
I want to fix some superficial dents in the rails on a pool table. Most of these are shallow and did not break the surface (they look like they came from impact with billiard balls). Any thoughts on using burn in sticks vs drop filling with lacquer? I assume the finish is some kind of lacquer. Thanks. Charles Steam them out??? |
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On Apr 19, 8:10*pm, wrote:
Steam them out??? Yep - It takes some care and that is why Mike suggested Googling. The process usually involves putting a damp cloth over the dent and VERY CAREFULLY applying heat with a hot iron (or similar source). This forces small amounts of steam into the wood fibers, expanding the wood. On finished wood, that hasn't been marred, you might have to introduce a few small needle pricks to allow the seam past the finish. I have pulled dents mostly out of table tops without filling. Now - I have said too much. The OP needs to follow the original suggestion and Google for some YouTube or other direction. If you screw up you can stain the wood. RonB |
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:35:03 -0700 (PDT), RonB
wrote: On Apr 19, 8:10Â*pm, wrote: Steam them out??? Yep - It takes some care and that is why Mike suggested Googling. The process usually involves putting a damp cloth over the dent and VERY CAREFULLY applying heat with a hot iron (or similar source). This forces small amounts of steam into the wood fibers, expanding the wood. On finished wood, that hasn't been marred, you might have to introduce a few small needle pricks to allow the seam past the finish. I have pulled dents mostly out of table tops without filling. Now - I have said too much. The OP needs to follow the original suggestion and Google for some YouTube or other direction. If you screw up you can stain the wood. RonB I wasn't questioning steaming it out. It was a suggestion - as in "have you thought to steam it out?" |
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On Apr 19, 9:43*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:35:03 -0700 (PDT), RonB wrote: On Apr 19, 8:10*pm, wrote: Steam them out??? Yep - It takes some care and that is why Mike suggested Googling. *The process usually involves putting a damp cloth over the dent and VERY CAREFULLY applying heat with a hot iron (or similar source). *This forces small amounts of steam into the wood fibers, expanding the wood. *On finished wood, that hasn't been marred, you might have to introduce a few small needle pricks to allow the seam past the finish. *I have pulled dents mostly out of table tops without filling. Now - I have said too much. *The OP needs to follow the original suggestion and Google for some YouTube or other direction. *If you screw up you can stain the wood. RonB *I wasn't questioning steaming it out. It was a suggestion - as in "have you thought to steam it out?" Oh. Sorry about that. Mike suggested steaming about two responses down. I misunderstood. RonB |
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I have steamed out dents before very successfully on unfinished wood, but have read that the steam would likely damage a finished surface and also didn't know if it would effectively penetrate through the finish anyway. As far as why I assume lacquer, it's because I think (but am not sure) that the finish seemed to get a little softer with lacquer thinner in an inconspicous area. If you aren't sure then either you are exceedingly indecisive/cautious or it isn't lacquer. If it is lacquer, it wouldn't just get a bit softer, it would melt...it would be liquid and sticky. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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