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the SWMBO was at an antique show today and saw a piece of furniture
that was labeled "flashed oak." She said it was striped, with
extremely strong contrast between the light and the dark stripes as if
it were zebrawood. Is anyone familiar with this? Why is it called
"flashed"? And is it the result of the type of oak used or is it a
type of finish (and if the latter, how do you do it?) I haven't seen
any references to this by googling the web or this newsgroup.
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"davidmc" wrote in message
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the SWMBO was at an antique show today and saw a piece of furniture
that was labeled "flashed oak." She said it was striped, with
extremely strong contrast between the light and the dark stripes as if
it were zebrawood. Is anyone familiar with this? Why is it called
"flashed"? And is it the result of the type of oak used or is it a
type of finish (and if the latter, how do you do it?) I haven't seen
any references to this by googling the web or this newsgroup.


maybe this is some sort of 'flame' in the wood?

randy


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Off the top of my head, perhaps it's charred, then sanded, leaving the
darker softer areas obvious.

Some of us char wood then wire brush the char away to make it look like
barnwood.

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"davidmc" wrote in message
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the SWMBO was at an antique show today and saw a piece of furniture
that was labeled "flashed oak." She said it was striped, with
extremely strong contrast between the light and the dark stripes as if
it were zebrawood. Is anyone familiar with this? Why is it called
"flashed"? And is it the result of the type of oak used or is it a
type of finish (and if the latter, how do you do it?) I haven't seen
any references to this by googling the web or this newsgroup.


maybe this is some sort of 'flame' in the wood?

randy




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sounds like a marketing gimmick to me.


No doubt by the same folks who insist that kwanza and cinco de mayo are
"traditional American holidays".

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"Swingman" wrote:

No doubt by the same folks who insist that kwanza and cinco de mayo are
"traditional American holidays".


That's an interesting comment. No, really it is, I'm not baiting or
being sarcastic.

Would you consider St. Patrick's Day as a traditional American holiday?
When does a religious or ethnic observance become widespread tradition?
I'm not that familiar with Kwanza and how long those of African descent
in the US have observed it, but as for Cinco de Mayo, it's been long
celebrated by the Hispanic community. As that segment of the population
nears the point of the majority I'm certain we'll be adding Cinco de
Mayo to the calendars of nationally observed holidays on par with St.
Paddy's.

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If you think "Hispanic" means Mexican, I guess you have a point. It
celebrates the defeat of Maximilian's forces in 1862, by those loyal to
Diaz. St Patrick's feast day is more or less the same as any other Saint's
day- a religious occasion - which, by the way, Kwanzaa isn't. It was made
up as an "in your less than black" face substitute for Christmas or
Chanukah, which were considered as "white."

http://www.officialkwanzaawebsite.org/ can end your speculation.


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Would you consider St. Patrick's Day as a traditional American holiday?
When does a religious or ethnic observance become widespread tradition?
I'm not that familiar with Kwanza and how long those of African descent
in the US have observed it, but as for Cinco de Mayo, it's been long
celebrated by the Hispanic community. As that segment of the population
nears the point of the majority I'm certain we'll be adding Cinco de
Mayo to the calendars of nationally observed holidays on par with St.
Paddy's.



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"Fly-by-Night CC" wrote in message
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Would you consider St. Patrick's Day as a traditional American holiday?


I would.


I'm not that familiar with Kwanza and how long those of African descent
in the US have observed it, but as for Cinco de Mayo, it's been long
celebrated by the Hispanic community.


1966 for Kwanzaa.

As that segment of the population nears the point of the majority


Not long now... Last I heard was 2025...




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"Fly-by-Night CC" wrote in message
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"Swingman" wrote:

No doubt by the same folks who insist that kwanza and cinco de mayo are
"traditional American holidays".


That's an interesting comment. No, really it is, I'm not baiting or
being sarcastic.


The point is/was ... there is no shortage of those who have no idea of they
are talking about and cover up that ignorance by pretending its display is
common knowledge and something you should know.

IOW, bridger likely hit the nail on the head with his surmise that there is
no such thing as "flashed oak".

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"Fly-by-Night CC" wrote in message
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Would you consider St. Patrick's Day as a traditional American holiday?


I would.


I'm not that familiar with Kwanza and how long those of African descent
in the US have observed it, but as for Cinco de Mayo, it's been long
celebrated by the Hispanic community.


1966 for Kwanzaa.

As that segment of the population nears the point of the majority


Not long now... Last I heard was 2025...



You might want to watch your quotes ... I did not write that.

Thanks ...

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On Thu, 13 May 2004 07:30:48 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:


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sounds like a marketing gimmick to me.


No doubt by the same folks who insist that kwanza and cinco de mayo are
"traditional American holidays".




around here (tucson) cinco de mayo is a big deal. really....
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On Thu, 13 May 2004 07:30:48 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:


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sounds like a marketing gimmick to me.


No doubt by the same folks who insist that kwanza and cinco de mayo are
"traditional American holidays".




around here (tucson) cinco de mayo is a big deal. really....


Probably bigger here in Texas ... BUT, it is a Mexican holiday, not an
American one, and still only a "marketing gimmick" in the latter ... at
least until we start celebrating Bastille day too, out of political
correctness.

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Swingman writes:

around here (tucson) cinco de mayo is a big deal. really....


Probably bigger here in Texas ... BUT, it is a Mexican holiday, not an
American one, and still only a "marketing gimmick" in the latter ... at
least until we start celebrating Bastille day too, out of political
correctness.


Well, we've got a start...I'm trying to recall what came in the mail the other
day, some kind of small tool or something similar. The box is triple
linguistic. English, Spanish, French. WV is not exactly suffering from a major
influx of people who speak the latter 2 languages, and I checked and discovered
that most entry points to the nearest French speaking area are on the order of
700 miles away, give or take. There are plenty of Hispanics here. One
restaurant owner just got locked up for illegal transportation of his
co-linguists, plus money laundering. Doesn't seem to have hurt his restaurant
business a bit.

Charlie Self
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is so highly honored that it is rewarded by exemption from the cares of
office." Ambrose Bierce



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"Swingman" wrote:

Probably bigger here in Texas ... BUT, it is a Mexican holiday, not an
American one, and still only a "marketing gimmick" in the latter ... at
least until we start celebrating Bastille day too, out of political
correctness.


Hahahaha. Name a US holiday that *isn't* a marketing gimmick? About the
only ones I can think of are MLK and Veteran's Days - and the later may
be slipping into the muck.

As to a Mexican holiday vs. a US holiday, I'd question St. Patrick's
again. Didn't happen here; was brought here and observed by Irish
Catholic immigrants. Same thing will likely happen with Cinco & Mexican
immigrants as well.

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If you think "Hispanic" means Mexican, I guess you have a point. It
celebrates the defeat of Maximilian's forces in 1862, by those loyal to
Diaz.


Someone of Spanish descent recently explained that in general terms,
Hispanic refers to Mexican decent or origin while Latino generally
refers to all of the primarily Spanish speaking countries of North,
Central and South America. I don't know if that's a universal generality
but it sorta made sense to me.

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Offering a shim for the Porter-Cable 557 type 2 fence design.
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"Fly-by-Night CC" wrote in message

Hahahaha. Name a US holiday that *isn't* a marketing gimmick? About the
only ones I can think of are MLK and Veteran's Days - and the later may
be slipping into the muck.


Yep ... it seems that somehow my daughters have the idea that they must give
me flowers on Veteran's Day now. Where on earth that came from ... never
mind, I can guess.

Wasn't/isn't Valentines Day a religious celebration, besides being the
epitome of a "marketing gimmick"?

... Madison Ave loves it when they can kill multiple birds with one guilt
trip.

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"Swingman" wrote in message
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You might want to watch your quotes ... I did not write that.


Oops! Apologies!
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Wasn't/isn't Valentines Day a religious celebration, besides being the
epitome of a "marketing gimmick"?


And whaddabout Thanksgiving? Right - not a "holiday" until mid 1800's, IIRC?
Seem to recall Geo Washington was hot about it, but it languised until a
magazine editor made it her crusade.


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Swingman writes:

only ones I can think of are MLK and Veteran's Days - and the later may
be slipping into the muck.


Yep ... it seems that somehow my daughters have the idea that they must give
me flowers on Veteran's Day now. Where on earth that came from ... never
mind, I can guess.


Oh, lord. Please, no.

Wasn't/isn't Valentines Day a religious celebration, besides being the
epitome of a "marketing gimmick"?


Yeah, but I think the major observation that we have today is all marketing.
Same with Halloween. When I was a wee bit younger, Halloween was an evening
when you wore burnt cork on your face and old sheets on your body, with ribs
drawn with cork. Made a helluva fine ghost. Now, costumes cost the earth, and
every parent fears razor blades in apples and worse in candies.

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is so highly honored that it is rewarded by exemption from the cares of
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On Thu, 13 May 2004 14:24:15 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:


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On Thu, 13 May 2004 07:30:48 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:


wrote in message

sounds like a marketing gimmick to me.

No doubt by the same folks who insist that kwanza and cinco de mayo are
"traditional American holidays".




around here (tucson) cinco de mayo is a big deal. really....


Probably bigger here in Texas ... BUT, it is a Mexican holiday, not an
American one, and still only a "marketing gimmick" in the latter ... at
least until we start celebrating Bastille day too, out of political
correctness.




tucson was part of mexico not all that long ago. there are still
plenty of families here who were here, then.
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In article , "George" george@least
wrote:

If you think "Hispanic" means Mexican, I guess you have a point. It
celebrates the defeat of Maximilian's forces in 1862, by those loyal to
Diaz.


Someone of Spanish descent recently explained that in general terms,
Hispanic refers to Mexican decent or origin while Latino generally
refers to all of the primarily Spanish speaking countries of North,
Central and South America. I don't know if that's a universal generality
but it sorta made sense to me.




IIRC, the word "hispanic" was made up by the nixon administration to
refer to anyone in the western hemisphere who natively speaks spanish.
thus it refers to mexicans, chileans and most of the rest of south
america, but not to brazillians, who speak portugese.
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Or, once again, we could take advantage of this reference library that
begins with www.

http://www.dailyillini.com/feb03/feb..._story11.shtml
http://www.som.tulane.edu/thhi/tminol.htm

Seem to echo the consensus, with the additional joy of letting "nons" know
that they can never get it right.

So get a clue, all you WOPs, Micks and Polacks....

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On Thu, 13 May 2004 14:34:21 -0700, Fly-by-Night CC
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In article , "George" george@least
wrote:

If you think "Hispanic" means Mexican, I guess you have a point. It
celebrates the defeat of Maximilian's forces in 1862, by those loyal to
Diaz.


Someone of Spanish descent recently explained that in general terms,
Hispanic refers to Mexican decent or origin while Latino generally
refers to all of the primarily Spanish speaking countries of North,
Central and South America. I don't know if that's a universal generality
but it sorta made sense to me.




IIRC, the word "hispanic" was made up by the nixon administration to
refer to anyone in the western hemisphere who natively speaks spanish.
thus it refers to mexicans, chileans and most of the rest of south
america, but not to brazillians, who speak portugese.





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davidmc wrote:

the SWMBO was at an antique show today and saw a piece of furniture
that was labeled "flashed oak." She said it was striped, with
extremely strong contrast between the light and the dark stripes as if
it were zebrawood. Is anyone familiar with this? Why is it called
"flashed"? And is it the result of the type of oak used or is it a
type of finish (and if the latter, how do you do it?) I haven't seen
any references to this by googling the web or this newsgroup.


Sicne the discussion seems to have degenerated, I'm going to stick my neck
out and suggest the possibility that it might be "fumed" oak which was
commonplace in arts-and-crafts furniture.

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J. Clarke wrote:

davidmc wrote:


the SWMBO was at an antique show today and saw a piece of furniture
that was labeled "flashed oak." She said it was striped, with
extremely strong contrast between the light and the dark stripes as if
it were zebrawood. Is anyone familiar with this? Why is it called
"flashed"? And is it the result of the type of oak used or is it a
type of finish (and if the latter, how do you do it?) I haven't seen
any references to this by googling the web or this newsgroup.



Sicne the discussion seems to have degenerated, I'm going to stick my neck
out and suggest the possibility that it might be "fumed" oak which was
commonplace in arts-and-crafts furniture.


Gee, and I was thinking it might have been from a little guy with a
trench coat at the lumber yard.

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"mttt" wrote in message
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"Swingman" wrote in message
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You might want to watch your quotes ... I did not write that.


Oops! Apologies!
[ OK if I blame Outlook??? ]


No problem ... I'll file suit immediately. MSFT may have some crumbs
leftover from that recent $250,000,000 legal bill. ;)


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Probably what I saw on saturday in an antique place. They called it
"flame oak". It was just quartersawn and looked good.

davidmc wrote:

the SWMBO was at an antique show today and saw a piece of furniture
that was labeled "flashed oak." She said it was striped, with
extremely strong contrast between the light and the dark stripes as if
it were zebrawood. Is anyone familiar with this? Why is it called
"flashed"? And is it the result of the type of oak used or is it a
type of finish (and if the latter, how do you do it?) I haven't seen
any references to this by googling the web or this newsgroup.


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