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Best of Sketch-up woodworking plug-ins & tutorials - DISCUSS & CONTRIBUTE
Sketch-up for woodworking has gotten quite a bit of press lately both
here and elsewhere. However, much of this info is scattered across multiple sources and threads. As a newbie to Sketch-up, I thought it might be helpful to start a thread where we could all collect and discuss our favorite Sketch-up plug-ins and tutorials. PLUG-INS: To start off, Cutlist 4.1.1 seems like a must-have though I have yet to play with it. It is discussed here for example: http://lumberjocks.com/daltxguy/blog/5143 I would be interested in other useful plug-ins including ones that: 1. Introduce added functionality, tools, shortcust helpful for woodworkers and designers 2. Provide templates for commonly uses parts and shapes TUTORIALS: Regarding tutorials, I found the whole series of Sketchup For Woodworkers by Rob Cameron to be very helpful for beginners. Fine HomeBuilding recommends intro tutorials by Adrian Chopra - and there seems to be some free content on YouTube I would be interested also in more advanced tutorials highlighting different tips, techniques, and shortcuts along with more advanced usage that might be non-obvious. |
Best of Sketch-up woodworking plug-ins & tutorials - DISCUSS & CONTRIBUTE
"blueman" wrote in message ... Sketch-up for woodworking has gotten quite a bit of press lately both here and elsewhere. However, much of this info is scattered across multiple sources and threads. As a newbie to Sketch-up, I thought it might be helpful to start a thread where we could all collect and discuss our favorite Sketch-up plug-ins and tutorials. PLUG-INS: To start off, Cutlist 4.1.1 seems like a must-have though I have yet to play with it. It is discussed here for example: http://lumberjocks.com/daltxguy/blog/5143 I would be interested in other useful plug-ins including ones that: 1. Introduce added functionality, tools, shortcust helpful for woodworkers and designers 2. Provide templates for commonly uses parts and shapes A handy plug in that works for taking irregular shapes from the drawing to the shop is "Slicer" It will take any object and slice it ant multiple intervals for transfering sizes to wood. "Dimension angle" does what you would expect. "Drop" will move an object to a desired height, helps to get every thing on the same plane. "Get Dimensions" is handy if you manually transfer drawing components into Cutlist Plus. It will tell you the h/w/l of a selected object or compinent. "Purge All" is handy to get rid of unused materials etc in a drawing so that it file will not be so big. Cutlist 4.1* is a great tool that will also import directly into Cutlist Plus. You have to pay for CutList plus but is extremly versitile and after the parts are optimized you can further move parts around your board or sheets or to other sheets or boards. |
Best of Sketch-up woodworking plug-ins & tutorials - DISCUSS & CONTRIBUTE
On Dec 7, 3:32*pm, "Leon" wrote:
"blueman" wrote in message ... Sketch-up for woodworking has gotten quite a bit of press lately both here and elsewhere. However, much of this info is scattered across multiple sources and threads. As a newbie to Sketch-up, I thought it might be helpful to start a thread where we could all collect and discuss our favorite Sketch-up plug-ins and tutorials. PLUG-INS: To start off, Cutlist 4.1.1 seems like a must-have though I have yet to play with it. It is discussed here for example: http://lumberjocks.com/daltxguy/blog/5143 I would be interested in other useful plug-ins including ones that: 1. Introduce added functionality, tools, shortcust helpful for woodworkers and designers 2. Provide templates for commonly uses parts and shapes A handy plug in that works for taking irregular shapes from the drawing to the shop is "Slicer" *It will take any object and slice it ant multiple intervals for transfering sizes to wood. "Dimension angle" does what you would expect. *"Drop" will move an object to a desired height, helps to get every thing on the same plane. "Get Dimensions" is handy if you manually transfer drawing components into Cutlist Plus. *It will tell you the h/w/l of a selected object or compinent. "Purge All" is handy to get rid of unused materials etc in a drawing so that it file will not be so big. Cutlist 4.1* is a great tool that will also import directly into Cutlist Plus. *You have to pay for CutList plus but is *extremly versitile and after the parts are optimized you can further move parts around your board or sheets or to other sheets or boards. But it's not CAD! .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. g,d&r |
Best of Sketch-up woodworking plug-ins & tutorials - DISCUSS& CONTRIBUTE
blueman wrote:
Sketch-up for woodworking has gotten quite a bit of press lately both here and elsewhere. However, much of this info is scattered across multiple sources and threads. As a newbie to Sketch-up, I thought it might be helpful to start a thread where we could all collect and discuss our favorite Sketch-up plug-ins and tutorials. I'm someone who's mostly learned what SketchUp is about, starting with the video tutorials, and then moving on to books. Leon and Swingman helped me get up and running here. IMO, the sooner you get to the books the better. There are some rules which I think are too subtle to pick up from the video tutorials, but which make a big difference. The videos go by so fast, I think I could watch them over and over and miss the little tidbits I'm talking about. YMMV. Bill PLUG-INS: To start off, Cutlist 4.1.1 seems like a must-have though I have yet to play with it. It is discussed here for example: http://lumberjocks.com/daltxguy/blog/5143 I would be interested in other useful plug-ins including ones that: 1. Introduce added functionality, tools, shortcust helpful for woodworkers and designers 2. Provide templates for commonly uses parts and shapes TUTORIALS: Regarding tutorials, I found the whole series of Sketchup For Woodworkers by Rob Cameron to be very helpful for beginners. Fine HomeBuilding recommends intro tutorials by Adrian Chopra - and there seems to be some free content on YouTube I would be interested also in more advanced tutorials highlighting different tips, techniques, and shortcuts along with more advanced usage that might be non-obvious. |
Best of Sketch-up woodworking plug-ins & tutorials - DISCUSS& CONTRIBUTE
I would be interested also in more advanced tutorials highlighting different tips, techniques, and shortcuts along with more advanced usage that might be non-obvious. How about in learning to program in Ruby and in using Google's SketchUp API? It's accessible if you are familiar with object-oriented programming. How's that for "advanced usage that may be non-obvious?" :) You might see the book, "Automatic SketchUp", by Scarpino for a glimpse into this perspective. The first 3 or 4 Chapters are available online at no cost. Bill |
Best of Sketch-up woodworking plug-ins & tutorials - DISCUSS& CONTRIBUTE
On 12/7/2010 1:55 PM, blueman wrote:
As a newbie to Sketch-up, I thought it might be helpful to start a thread where we could all collect and discuss our favorite Sketch-up plug-ins and tutorials. Tim Killen's pdf book is an excellent intro for woodworkers new to Sketchup: http://www.tauntonstore.com/sketchup...ok-077846.html As you become more proficient and something arises that you just can't figure out how to do, it is probably covered in "Google Sketchup Cookbook" ... an excellent _reference_ book, although NOT a tutorial: http://www.amazon.com/Google-Sketchu.../dp/0596155115 As far as mindset being all important in shortening a learning curve, the two most important concepts/keys to becoming proficient with Sketchup as a woodworker: 1. Understanding that conceptually, just as in woodworking, Sketchup deals with "surfaces and edges". 2. Extending that concept further by grasping the vital importance of using Sketchup's "components" and "groups" features as the basis for your woodworking models. (IOW, just as legs, aprons, and top are the basic "components" of a table, these same _individual_ "components" (or copies of same) should also be the basis for any 3D Sketchup model of your table). In addition, those woodworkers wishing to use SU to present their designs and ideas to others (particularly when desiring to make a formal set of woodworking plans) will do well to spend the time it takes to learn to use Sketchup's "layers" and "scenes" features. FWIW - Printout of the contents of my "plugins" directory: 2D#.rb 3DxSketchUp.rb A4_smartpushpull.rb applyTo.rb arcs.rb bezier.rb bomb.rb cabinet.rb clinetool clinetool.rb cutlist.rb deBabelizer.rb dim_angle.rb engineeringtoolbox.rb examples.rb ExtrudeAlongPath.rb HouseBuilder_extension.rb joisttool.rb layers.rb ldd.rbs LibFredo6.rb line2wall.rb makefaces.rb massmaterialimporter.rb midpoint.rb Mirror.rb multiwalltool_2.rb ocean_extension.rb parametric.rb progressbar.rb PurgeAll.rb setcomponents.rb sketchup.rb skin22.rb smustard-app-observer.rb stair_maker.rb startup.rb swivelButtonPlugin.rb utilities.rb weld.rb windows.rb woodwrk.rb ZLoader__RoundCorner.rb -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
Best of Sketch-up woodworking plug-ins & tutorials - DISCUSS& CONTRIBUTE
Swingman wrote:
On 12/7/2010 1:55 PM, blueman wrote: As a newbie to Sketch-up, I thought it might be helpful to start a thread where we could all collect and discuss our favorite Sketch-up plug-ins and tutorials. Tim Killen's pdf book is an excellent intro for woodworkers new to Sketchup: http://www.tauntonstore.com/sketchup...ok-077846.html As you become more proficient and something arises that you just can't figure out how to do, it is probably covered in "Google Sketchup Cookbook" ... an excellent _reference_ book, although NOT a tutorial: http://www.amazon.com/Google-Sketchu.../dp/0596155115 I read it from cover to cover (I guess I didn't know any better?). I thought the reading was WAY BETTER than "The Missing Manual". I think it should be one's 2nd SketchUp book, definitely not the first (and it indicates that it's not for absolute beginners on the back cover). It would be even better if it contained a few exercises...a big opportunity there overlooked, IMO. However, in our domain (ww) we don't have to think long to come up with a project. Maybe the book would seem more like a tutorial if one started reading at the beginning instead of consulting it as a reference? : ) Bill As far as mindset being all important in shortening a learning curve, the two most important concepts/keys to becoming proficient with Sketchup as a woodworker: 1. Understanding that conceptually, just as in woodworking, Sketchup deals with "surfaces and edges". 2. Extending that concept further by grasping the vital importance of using Sketchup's "components" and "groups" features as the basis for your woodworking models. (IOW, just as legs, aprons, and top are the basic "components" of a table, these same _individual_ "components" (or copies of same) should also be the basis for any 3D Sketchup model of your table). In addition, those woodworkers wishing to use SU to present their designs and ideas to others (particularly when desiring to make a formal set of woodworking plans) will do well to spend the time it takes to learn to use Sketchup's "layers" and "scenes" features. FWIW - Printout of the contents of my "plugins" directory: 2D#.rb 3DxSketchUp.rb A4_smartpushpull.rb applyTo.rb arcs.rb bezier.rb bomb.rb cabinet.rb clinetool clinetool.rb cutlist.rb deBabelizer.rb dim_angle.rb engineeringtoolbox.rb examples.rb ExtrudeAlongPath.rb HouseBuilder_extension.rb joisttool.rb layers.rb ldd.rbs LibFredo6.rb line2wall.rb makefaces.rb massmaterialimporter.rb midpoint.rb Mirror.rb multiwalltool_2.rb ocean_extension.rb parametric.rb progressbar.rb PurgeAll.rb setcomponents.rb sketchup.rb skin22.rb smustard-app-observer.rb stair_maker.rb startup.rb swivelButtonPlugin.rb utilities.rb weld.rb windows.rb woodwrk.rb ZLoader__RoundCorner.rb |
Best of Sketch-up woodworking plug-ins & tutorials - DISCUSS & CONTRIBUTE
"Robatoy" wrote in message ... But it's not CAD! .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. g,d&r But some of us are smart enough to use it anyway. ;~) |
Best of Sketch-up woodworking plug-ins & tutorials - DISCUSS & CONTRIBUTE
"Swingman" wrote in message ... On 12/7/2010 1:55 PM, blueman wrote: As a newbie to Sketch-up, I thought it might be helpful to start a thread where we could all collect and discuss our favorite Sketch-up plug-ins and tutorials. Tim Killen's pdf book is an excellent intro for woodworkers new to Sketchup: http://www.tauntonstore.com/sketchup...ok-077846.html You and I have been using Sketchup for a while now but reading this book I finally learned how to lock a line direction with the arrow keys. Stupid simple but I couldn't figger it out. ;~) |
Best of Sketch-up woodworking plug-ins & tutorials - DISCUSS& CONTRIBUTE
Leon wrote:
wrote in message ... On 12/7/2010 1:55 PM, blueman wrote: As a newbie to Sketch-up, I thought it might be helpful to start a thread where we could all collect and discuss our favorite Sketch-up plug-ins and tutorials. Tim Killen's pdf book is an excellent intro for woodworkers new to Sketchup: http://www.tauntonstore.com/sketchup...ok-077846.html You and I have been using Sketchup for a while now but reading this book I finally learned how to lock a line direction with the arrow keys. Stupid simple but I couldn't figger it out. ;~) That's exactly the kind of "tidbit" I was referring to in my previous post. You could watch a video 5x and not get it. Bill |
Best of Sketch-up woodworking plug-ins & tutorials - DISCUSS& CONTRIBUTE
On 12/7/2010 9:51 PM, Bill wrote:
Leon wrote: wrote in message ... On 12/7/2010 1:55 PM, blueman wrote: As a newbie to Sketch-up, I thought it might be helpful to start a thread where we could all collect and discuss our favorite Sketch-up plug-ins and tutorials. Tim Killen's pdf book is an excellent intro for woodworkers new to Sketchup: http://www.tauntonstore.com/sketchup...ok-077846.html You and I have been using Sketchup for a while now but reading this book I finally learned how to lock a line direction with the arrow keys. Stupid simple but I couldn't figger it out. ;~) That's exactly the kind of "tidbit" I was referring to in my previous post. You could watch a video 5x and not get it. Actually, I learned that one, and many others, a few years back from: http://www.go-2-school.com/media/browse/sketchup_show They have the best tutorial videos of all and their free series on iTunes is where I picked most of what I learned early on about using Sketchup in residential construction projects, and for presentation and construction documents/drawings ... out of dire necessity. ;) I've never bought their videos but I imagine that someone who wanted to quickly become proficient would find them hard to beat. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
Best of Sketch-up woodworking plug-ins & tutorials - DISCUSS& CONTRIBUTE
Swingman wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:51 PM, Bill wrote: Leon wrote: wrote in message ... On 12/7/2010 1:55 PM, blueman wrote: As a newbie to Sketch-up, I thought it might be helpful to start a thread where we could all collect and discuss our favorite Sketch-up plug-ins and tutorials. Tim Killen's pdf book is an excellent intro for woodworkers new to Sketchup: http://www.tauntonstore.com/sketchup...ok-077846.html You and I have been using Sketchup for a while now but reading this book I finally learned how to lock a line direction with the arrow keys. Stupid simple but I couldn't figger it out. ;~) That's exactly the kind of "tidbit" I was referring to in my previous post. You could watch a video 5x and not get it. Actually, I learned that one, and many others, a few years back from: http://www.go-2-school.com/media/browse/sketchup_show They have the best tutorial videos of all and their free series on iTunes is where I picked most of what I learned early on about using Sketchup in residential construction projects, and for presentation and construction documents/drawings ... out of dire necessity. ;) I've never bought their videos but I imagine that someone who wanted to quickly become proficient would find them hard to beat. Wow, Looks like a nice collection. I'm saving the link. Thanks! -Bill |
Best of Sketch-up woodworking plug-ins & tutorials - DISCUSS & CONTRIBUTE
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:45:06 -0500, Bill wrote:
Swingman wrote: Actually, I learned that one, and many others, a few years back from: http://www.go-2-school.com/media/browse/sketchup_show They have the best tutorial videos of all and their free series on iTunes is where I picked most of what I learned early on about using Sketchup in residential construction projects, and for presentation and construction documents/drawings ... out of dire necessity. ;) I've never bought their videos but I imagine that someone who wanted to quickly become proficient would find them hard to beat. Wow, Looks like a nice collection. I'm saving the link. Thanks! -Bill Has anyone here yet purchased the e-book from Bob Lang? 118 pages, 49 videos, $40 (ouch, but is it worth it, given all the videos?) http://fwd4.me/s9M _Woodworker's Guide to Google Sketchup_ How does it compare to Killen's e-book? -- You can't wait for inspiration. You have to go after it with a club. --Jack London |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:45:06 -0500, Bill wrote: Swingman wrote: Actually, I learned that one, and many others, a few years back from: http://www.go-2-school.com/media/browse/sketchup_show They have the best tutorial videos of all and their free series on iTunes is where I picked most of what I learned early on about using Sketchup in residential construction projects, and for presentation and construction documents/drawings ... out of dire necessity. ;) I've never bought their videos but I imagine that someone who wanted to quickly become proficient would find them hard to beat. Wow, Looks like a nice collection. I'm saving the link. Thanks! -Bill Has anyone here yet purchased the e-book from Bob Lang? 118 pages, 49 videos, $40 (ouch, but is it worth it, given all the videos?) http://fwd4.me/s9M _Woodworker's Guide to Google Sketchup_ How does it compare to Killen's e-book? I looked at video samples of both part 1 and 2 by Bob Lang. The video is ok, but IMHO if you miss a point you have to go through the video to hunt for it again. I much prefer Killen's book. I find the videos very useful for a single serving but not much of a time saver if you need to refresh your memory. |
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 15:31:11 -0600, "Leon"
wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:45:06 -0500, Bill wrote: Swingman wrote: Actually, I learned that one, and many others, a few years back from: http://www.go-2-school.com/media/browse/sketchup_show They have the best tutorial videos of all and their free series on iTunes is where I picked most of what I learned early on about using Sketchup in residential construction projects, and for presentation and construction documents/drawings ... out of dire necessity. ;) I've never bought their videos but I imagine that someone who wanted to quickly become proficient would find them hard to beat. Wow, Looks like a nice collection. I'm saving the link. Thanks! -Bill Has anyone here yet purchased the e-book from Bob Lang? 118 pages, 49 videos, $40 (ouch, but is it worth it, given all the videos?) http://fwd4.me/s9M _Woodworker's Guide to Google Sketchup_ How does it compare to Killen's e-book? I looked at video samples of both part 1 and 2 by Bob Lang. The video is ok, but IMHO if you miss a point you have to go through the video to hunt for it again. I much prefer Killen's book. I find the videos very useful for a single serving but not much of a time saver if you need to refresh your memory. Are the videos you refer to the same as supplied with the text on CD? I think he may have two products out now. I like reading text to prep for the video which ties all the knowledge together. -- Invest in America: Buy a CONgresscritter today! |
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On Dec 7, 10:41*pm, "Leon" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message ... But it's not CAD! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . g,d&r But some of us are smart enough to use it anyway. *;~) HEY!!!! |
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Leon wrote:
"Larry wrote in message ... On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:45:06 -0500, wrote: Swingman wrote: Actually, I learned that one, and many others, a few years back from: http://www.go-2-school.com/media/browse/sketchup_show They have the best tutorial videos of all and their free series on iTunes is where I picked most of what I learned early on about using Sketchup in residential construction projects, and for presentation and construction documents/drawings ... out of dire necessity. ;) I've never bought their videos but I imagine that someone who wanted to quickly become proficient would find them hard to beat. Wow, Looks like a nice collection. I'm saving the link. Thanks! -Bill Has anyone here yet purchased the e-book from Bob Lang? 118 pages, 49 videos, $40 (ouch, but is it worth it, given all the videos?) http://fwd4.me/s9M _Woodworker's Guide to Google Sketchup_ How does it compare to Killen's e-book? I looked at video samples of both part 1 and 2 by Bob Lang. The video is ok, but IMHO if you miss a point you have to go through the video to hunt for it again. I much prefer Killen's book. I find the videos very useful for a single serving but not much of a time saver if you need to refresh your memory. I'm been using the online help effectively to answer the "refresh" my memory" type of questions. I would find it very frustrating to search through videos to refresh my memory from. (Good) books have indexes. Bill |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... How does it compare to Killen's e-book? I looked at video samples of both part 1 and 2 by Bob Lang. The video is ok, but IMHO if you miss a point you have to go through the video to hunt for it again. I much prefer Killen's book. I find the videos very useful for a single serving but not much of a time saver if you need to refresh your memory. Are the videos you refer to the same as supplied with the text on CD? I think he may have two products out now. The videos are samples from the first book and the second book. I like reading text to prep for the video which ties all the knowledge together. I was under the impression that Lang's books were strictly video. I thought they were PDF books but the samples and associated information lead me to think other wise. I am probably wrong but I would not want just the video, text and video would be the best of both worlds. |
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"Bill" wrote in message ... I'm been using the online help effectively to answer the "refresh" my memory" type of questions. I would find it very frustrating to search through videos to refresh my memory from. (Good) books have indexes. Bill Screw the index.. LOL. I use the Search function in the PDF reader. |
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On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:07:33 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:45:06 -0500, Bill wrote: Swingman wrote: Actually, I learned that one, and many others, a few years back from: http://www.go-2-school.com/media/browse/sketchup_show They have the best tutorial videos of all and their free series on iTunes is where I picked most of what I learned early on about using Sketchup in residential construction projects, and for presentation and construction documents/drawings ... out of dire necessity. ;) I've never bought their videos but I imagine that someone who wanted to quickly become proficient would find them hard to beat. Wow, Looks like a nice collection. I'm saving the link. Thanks! -Bill Has anyone here yet purchased the e-book from Bob Lang? 118 pages, 49 videos, $40 (ouch, but is it worth it, given all the videos?) http://fwd4.me/s9M _Woodworker's Guide to Google Sketchup_ How does it compare to Killen's e-book? I have it. I can say that for myself, I found it quite introductory and did not learn much that I hadn't already found out by working with the software. I haven't tried Killen's e-book. |
Best of Sketch-up woodworking plug-ins & tutorials - DISCUSS & CONTRIBUTE
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 09:29:52 -0600, "Leon"
wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . How does it compare to Killen's e-book? I looked at video samples of both part 1 and 2 by Bob Lang. The video is ok, but IMHO if you miss a point you have to go through the video to hunt for it again. I much prefer Killen's book. I find the videos very useful for a single serving but not much of a time saver if you need to refresh your memory. Are the videos you refer to the same as supplied with the text on CD? I think he may have two products out now. The videos are samples from the first book and the second book. I like reading text to prep for the video which ties all the knowledge together. I was under the impression that Lang's books were strictly video. I thought they were PDF books but the samples and associated information lead me to think other wise. I am probably wrong but I would not want just the video, text and video would be the best of both worlds. Agreed. Here's the link again, shortened and full: http://fwd4.me/sTf http://www.woodworkersbookshop.com/p...chup/index.php * 49 Click and Play Videos in the Text * Table of Contents Links * Bookmarks for Easy Navigation * 184 Pages of Step by Step Instruction * 391 Detailed Screen Shots This is a comprehensive reference, designed to teach woodworkers how to use the popular, free 3D design tool, Google SketchUp. From the basics of setting up the program to the fine points of making detailed models of your next project, Woodworkers Guide to SketchUp provides the answers in an easy to use, easy to search digital publication. Robert W. Lang has years of experience as a professional woodworker and designer and shares the secrets of designing furniture and cabinets efficiently on your computer. This Woodworking eBook is a new approach to learning. Place the disc in your computer's drive and launch Adobe Reader. It looks like a book, with clear step-by step instructions and hundreds of illustrations, and you can print a hard copy for off screen reading and reference. Read on your monitor and follow along in SketchUp. Video tutorials are embedded within the pages. Just click on the image and a short video plays to show you exactly what to do. Built in bookmarks and search functions find the information you want instantly. This digital publication comes to you on a single disc in Adobe PDF format. Requires Adobe Reader, and can be read on both Macs and PCs. -- Invest in America: Buy a CONgresscritter today! |
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On 12/7/2010 2:55 PM, blueman wrote:
I would be interested also in more advanced tutorials highlighting different tips, techniques, and shortcuts along with more advanced usage that might be non-obvious. I recall going through lots of tutorials before I figured out the most basic of stuff, like how to set up the program for a wood worker. I found this stuff not particularly intuitive and have no clue what tutorials taught me this, some I figured out on my own, some I found in tutorials, and most likely in my haste to learn, I may have skipped some of this in the tutorials. For beginners, I'll give some tips that help before going to a tutorial that I learned over time: First, you need a decent screen layout. Click on VIEWS, TOOLBARS and Deselect: Getting Started, its cluttered and redundant. Select Large Tool Set Layers Standard Views The last one, "Views" is important. It puts all the basic views, ISO, front, back, top, sides on the tool bar. I found it really helpful drawing stuff from a flat on view rather than an iso view when first starting out, but even now, rather than fool with drawing to axes, a flat front, top or side view is simple. Along with the View Extents on the Large Tool set, you can always quickly get things back into perspective when things get out of hand. Next, go to Window, and select Model Info. Select Units and pick fractional and something less precise. I use 1/16th, but probably should use 1/8th. This makes it easier to use the mouse to size things. I spend a lot of time trying to get lengths to a half inch or 1/4" before giving up and typing the numbers in. I still do, but this helps. My next tip is hot keys. You must learn some always used hot keys for woodworkers. These are imperative: Spacebar: Select R: Rectangle M: Move P: Push R is how most all woodworking projects get started, because most wood is a rectangle. I was using Line a lot at first... nope, wrong way to draw a 2x6. Pick a view, like front, and r and draw any size rectangle reasonably close to size, enter it then type in the actual size, say 30,5.5 and you will get a perfect 30" x 6" board. Next, hit P and make the thickness to anything, then type in the real thickness, .75 or 1 1/2 or whatever. Actually, I changed the P for push to V and made P paint. You do this in Window, preferences, shortcuts. I use V a lot and I find P less convenient, so I changed that shortcut. Now, for my suggestion for a tutorial, I like this one by Gary Katz: http://garykatz.blip.tv/file/2375765/ If you look at his desktop, you should see pretty much what I described above. This tutorial is for a simple book case but it is a great tutorial for woodworkers and should be done following along step by step with SU. Once you can do everything he does w/o the tutorial, you are well on your way and can develop your own style to do the same things your way, as there are many. Two more tutorial pages I have bookmarked: http://sketchup.google.com/training/videos.html http://www.aidanchopra.com/tableofcontents -- Jack I cut it twice and it's still too short... http://jbstein.com |
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"Jack Stein" wrote in message ... On 12/7/2010 2:55 PM, blueman wrote: Snip Next, go to Window, and select Model Info. Select Units and pick fractional and something less precise. I use 1/16th, but probably should use 1/8th. Actually I would not suggest as coarse an 1/8" as you often have to split that distance This makes it easier to use the mouse to size things. I spend a lot of time trying to get lengths to a half inch or 1/4" before giving up and typing the numbers in. I still do, but this helps. For years I waited for AutoCAD LT and Auto Sketch to add Dirrect Distance Entry, DDS. Much much faster if you simply click to start a line and drag the mouse in the dirrection you want to go. Type in the distance you want and enter, done deal. Watching for a snap distance can be tedious. My next tip is hot keys. You must learn some always used hot keys for woodworkers. These are imperative: Spacebar: Select R: Rectangle M: Move P: Push I also suggest adding L to start a line. G to form a component. D for dimension, Alt D to dimension an angle. T for Tape measure. Some of these are "MY" shortcuts. Any time I can type in a letter instead of going to an icon for a command I save time. These short cuts can be changed and or added very easily. AND I set my center scroll wheel click to invoke the Orbit command. |
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"Leon" wrote in message ... "Jack Stein" wrote in message ... On 12/7/2010 2:55 PM, blueman wrote: Snip Next, go to Window, and select Model Info. Select Units and pick fractional and something less precise. I use 1/16th, but probably should use 1/8th. Actually I would not suggest as coarse an 1/8" as you often have to split that distance A little further on that comment,, when zoomed in and trying to snap to a point to start or end a line, a coarse snap setting can make it difficult to get the line to actually snap/attach to another point to begin or end a line. I don't like having to deal with a jumpy cursor when zoomed in on a detail especially when trying to attach to a buried line only visible in X-Ray mode. |
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On 12/11/2010 6:56 PM, Leon wrote:
"Jack wrote in message This makes it easier to use the mouse to size things. I spend a lot of time trying to get lengths to a half inch or 1/4" before giving up and typing the numbers in. I still do, but this helps. For years I waited for AutoCAD LT and Auto Sketch to add Dirrect Distance Entry, DDS. Much much faster if you simply click to start a line and drag the mouse in the dirrection you want to go. Type in the distance you want and enter, done deal. Watching for a snap distance can be tedious. I agree, but my mind somehow looks at it as a challenge when I try to do the snap distance thing. I use the mouse, and overshoot by 1/64, under shoot by 1/4, over shoot by 1/8th and have to force my self to type in the number, as my brain wants to beat the snapper into submission. I always start out using rectangles and and typing in the distances but sooner or later along the way, when I'm not paying attention my mind slips into the game mode... My next tip is hot keys. You must learn some always used hot keys for woodworkers. These are imperative: Spacebar: Select R: Rectangle M: Move P: Push I also suggest adding L to start a line. G to form a component. D for dimension, Alt D to dimension an angle. T for Tape measure. Some of these are "MY" shortcuts. Any time I can type in a letter instead of going to an icon for a command I save time. These short cuts can be changed and or added very easily. For sure. I left out the L line thing because when I first was learning I used the line tool to start everything. That was a waste of time and now I use it infrequently compared to the 3 I listed. I should have added G for for component. Others I use a lot is Alt and double click the scroll wheel which centers the drawing wherever your cursor is and shift and hold down the scroll wheel to get the pan tool. Anyway, once you start using the shortcuts, you quickly learn all the most used, and edit some to suit your personal Preferences. AND I set my center scroll wheel click to invoke the Orbit command. I think the default if you hold it down, is the orbit tool, and with shift is the pan tool. -- Jack To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism. To steal from many is research. http://jbstein.com |
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"Leon" writes:
"Swingman" wrote in message ... On 12/7/2010 1:55 PM, blueman wrote: As a newbie to Sketch-up, I thought it might be helpful to start a thread where we could all collect and discuss our favorite Sketch-up plug-ins and tutorials. Tim Killen's pdf book is an excellent intro for woodworkers new to Sketchup: http://www.tauntonstore.com/sketchup...ok-077846.html You and I have been using Sketchup for a while now but reading this book I finally learned how to lock a line direction with the arrow keys. Stupid simple but I couldn't figger it out. ;~) Cool trick! Now it would be even more helpful if that trick also worked for setting the plane in the rectangle tool -- it is a PITA sometimes to have rotate the canvas to get an orientation that favors your intended direction... |
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"blueman" wrote in message ... "Leon" writes: "Swingman" wrote in message ... On 12/7/2010 1:55 PM, blueman wrote: As a newbie to Sketch-up, I thought it might be helpful to start a thread where we could all collect and discuss our favorite Sketch-up plug-ins and tutorials. Tim Killen's pdf book is an excellent intro for woodworkers new to Sketchup: http://www.tauntonstore.com/sketchup...ok-077846.html You and I have been using Sketchup for a while now but reading this book I finally learned how to lock a line direction with the arrow keys. Stupid simple but I couldn't figger it out. ;~) Cool trick! Now it would be even more helpful if that trick also worked for setting the plane in the rectangle tool -- it is a PITA sometimes to have rotate the canvas to get an orientation that favors your intended direction... If you figure that one out let me know LOL.. I always draw the lines to form a rectangle and push/pull to form a 3D object. I do use the rectangle tool when I am able to snap to given points, say to close the top of a box for instance. |
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On 12/15/2010 9:12 AM, Leon wrote:
wrote in message Cool trick! Now it would be even more helpful if that trick also worked for setting the plane in the rectangle tool -- it is a PITA sometimes to have rotate the canvas to get an orientation that favors your intended direction... If you figure that one out let me know LOL.. As I said in a previous message if you set the view to front, back, top or side it is simple to draw a rectangle to the correct orientation. Thats why the first thing beginners should do is set up the tool bar with the Views on it as I described. I always draw the lines to form a rectangle and push/pull to form a 3D object. I do use the rectangle tool when I am able to snap to given points, say to close the top of a box for instance. I never draw lines to draw a rectangle, that's what the rectangle tool is for. You can quickly type in the size of the rectangle to perfection so the line tool is just the wrong tool to draw rectangles, even if it seems to work, it is inefficient. Still, the orientation is plain simple if you start out in the correct view, regardless if using the Line or Rectangle tool. If you are drawing a cabinet, and starting with a side, use side view, if starting with the base or top, use top view, face frame, use front view. The plane of the rectangle tool will be set, no problem. -- Jack You Can't Fix Stupid, but You Can Vote it Out! http://jbstein.com |
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Jack Stein writes:
On 12/15/2010 9:12 AM, Leon wrote: wrote in message Cool trick! Now it would be even more helpful if that trick also worked for setting the plane in the rectangle tool -- it is a PITA sometimes to have rotate the canvas to get an orientation that favors your intended direction... If you figure that one out let me know LOL.. As I said in a previous message if you set the view to front, back, top or side it is simple to draw a rectangle to the correct orientation. Thats why the first thing beginners should do is set up the tool bar with the Views on it as I described. Yes I am well aware of that - still would be nice if the arrow trick worked for rectangles to set the plane the same way that it sets the direction for lines... |
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On 12/15/2010 6:29 PM, blueman wrote:
Jack writes: On 12/15/2010 9:12 AM, Leon wrote: wrote in message Cool trick! Now it would be even more helpful if that trick also worked for setting the plane in the rectangle tool -- it is a PITA sometimes to have rotate the canvas to get an orientation that favors your intended direction... If you figure that one out let me know LOL.. As I said in a previous message if you set the view to front, back, top or side it is simple to draw a rectangle to the correct orientation. Thats why the first thing beginners should do is set up the tool bar with the Views on it as I described. Yes I am well aware of that - still would be nice if the arrow trick worked for rectangles to set the plane the same way that it sets the direction for lines... Sorry, I guess I got confused when you said you sometimes have to rotate the canvas to get an orientation that favors your intended direction. I've not had a problem with orientation once I learned to set the view to the orientation I wanted. The rectangle tool always draws straight lines along an axis w/o the arrow trick, which might be why the arrow trick doesn't work with it? -- Jack To write with a broken pencil is pointless. http://jbstein.com |
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"Jack Stein" wrote in message ... On 12/15/2010 9:12 AM, Leon wrote: wrote in message Cool trick! Now it would be even more helpful if that trick also worked for setting the plane in the rectangle tool -- it is a PITA sometimes to have rotate the canvas to get an orientation that favors your intended direction... If you figure that one out let me know LOL.. As I said in a previous message if you set the view to front, back, top or side it is simple to draw a rectangle to the correct orientation. Thats why the first thing beginners should do is set up the tool bar with the Views on it as I described. Yes it is simple to do it that way however when I was formally taught drafting we did front, top, side, and iosmetric views. Basically we learned to draw 3D. With Sketchup I very very seldom use a flat view to draw, it all starts and progresses as a 3D drawing. So going to a flat view just complicates the process to draw a retangle with the rectangle tool, much fewer steps to simply draw 2 lines and inference for the complimentary lines to draw the rectangle. I do use the views tool bar but for other purposes. I always draw the lines to form a rectangle and push/pull to form a 3D object. I do use the rectangle tool when I am able to snap to given points, say to close the top of a box for instance. I never draw lines to draw a rectangle, that's what the rectangle tool is for. You can quickly type in the size of the rectangle to perfection so the line tool is just the wrong tool to draw rectangles, even if it seems to work, it is inefficient. And oddly switching from ISO/3D to flat and back again to draw a rectangle seems way too complicated to me. ;~) To each his own. Keep in mind that once you have a few lines or rectangles laid out in 3D the rectangle tool works as expected when you use inferance points with out having to input any data at all. Still, the orientation is plain simple if you start out in the correct view, regardless if using the Line or Rectangle tool. If you are drawing a cabinet, and starting with a side, use side view, if starting with the base or top, use top view, face frame, use front view. The plane of the rectangle tool will be set, no problem. Agreed, if you start with the traditional flat front, top of side view. For me those days are long past. -- Jack You Can't Fix Stupid, but You Can Vote it Out! http://jbstein.com |
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On Dec 16, 9:29*pm, "Leon" wrote:
"Jack Stein" wrote in message ... On 12/15/2010 9:12 AM, Leon wrote: *wrote in message Cool trick! Now it would be even more helpful if that trick also worked for setting the plane in the rectangle tool -- it is a PITA sometimes to have rotate the canvas to get an orientation that favors your intended direction.... If you figure that one out let me know *LOL.. As I said in a previous message if you set the view to front, back, top or side it is simple to draw a rectangle to the correct orientation. Thats why the first thing beginners should do is set up the tool bar with the Views on it as I described. Yes it is simple to do it that way however when I was formally taught drafting we did *front, top, side, and iosmetric views. *Basically we learned to draw 3D. *With Sketchup I very very seldom use a flat view to draw, it all starts and progresses as a 3D drawing. *So going to a flat view just complicates the process to draw a retangle with the rectangle tool, much fewer steps to simply draw 2 lines and inference for the complimentary lines to draw the rectangle. *I do use the views tool bar but for other purposes. I always draw the lines to form a rectangle and push/pull to form a 3D object. *I do use the rectangle tool when I am able to snap to given points, say to close the top of a box for instance. I never draw lines to draw a rectangle, that's what the rectangle tool is for. You can quickly type in the size of the rectangle to perfection so the line tool is just the wrong tool to draw rectangles, even if it seems to work, it is inefficient. And oddly switching from ISO/3D to flat and back again to draw a rectangle seems way too complicated to me. *;~) *To each his own. *Keep in mind that once you have a few lines or rectangles laid out in 3D the rectangle tool works as expected when you use inferance points with out having to input any data at all. Still, the orientation is plain simple if you start out in the correct view, regardless if using the Line or Rectangle tool. If you are drawing a cabinet, and starting with a side, use side view, if starting with the base or top, use top view, face frame, use front view.. The plane of the rectangle tool will be set, no problem. Agreed, if you start with the traditional flat front, top of side view. *For me those days are long past. -- Jack You Can't Fix Stupid, but You Can Vote it Out! http://jbstein.com Joe Zeh, AKA Chiefwoodworker, has built a wonderful series of tutorials on his web site. You'll have to Google for it (old age has stopped creeping in and started leaping), but it's well worth the minimal effort. He not only gives examples, he builds the examples as he goes...and Joe is one helluva good woodworker. |
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On 12/18/2010 12:26 PM, Charlie Self wrote:
Joe Zeh, AKA Chiefwoodworker, has built a wonderful series of tutorials on his web site. You'll have to Google for it (old age has stopped creeping in and started leaping), but it's well worth the minimal effort. He not only gives examples, he builds the examples as he goes...and Joe is one helluva good woodworker. His reworked (for adding invisible/visible) layers plugin is one of my most used ruby scripts: http://www.srww.com/blog/?p=122 We worth using when learning to master the use of scenes and layers for developing full sets of plans. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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HeY Charley!
Where have you been hiding? And thanks for the info on Joe Zek. .. |
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 10:26:22 -0800 (PST), Charlie Self
wrote: Joe Zeh, AKA Chiefwoodworker, has built a wonderful series of tutorials on his web site. You'll have to Google for it (old age has stopped creeping in and started leaping), but it's well worth the minimal effort. He not only gives examples, he builds the examples as he goes...and Joe is one helluva good woodworker. Found it! http://www.srww.com/google-sketchup.htm Hey, Charlie! What's new? Long time no hear. -- The art of life lies in a constant readjustment to our surroundings. -- Okakura Kakuzo |
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