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Robert L. Wilson October 5th 10 10:48 PM

stupid safety rulers...
 
I wanted to buy a replacement 12" stainless steel ruler. Shopped all around
town. Apparently almost all now have rounded corners, presumably to keep us
from hurting ourselves, so the graduations don't go all the way to the end.
So you can't use them easily to make inside measurements...
So I can be trusted with a chain saw, a nail gun, a milling machine, etc.,
but I need to be protected from sharp corners on my RULER ???????????
Bob Wilson
(It does look like Grizzly has one that it as at least squared off at one
end with graduations clear to that end.)



Neil Brooks October 5th 10 10:51 PM

stupid safety rulers...
 
On Oct 5, 3:48*pm, "Robert L. Wilson" wrote:
I wanted to buy a replacement 12" stainless steel ruler. Shopped all around
town. Apparently almost all now have rounded corners, presumably to keep us
from hurting ourselves, so the graduations don't go all the way to the end.
So you can't use them easily to make inside measurements...
So I can be trusted with a chain saw, a nail gun, a milling machine, etc.,
but I need to be protected from sharp corners on my RULER ???????????
Bob Wilson
(It does look like Grizzly has one that it as at least squared off at one
end with graduations clear to that end.)


Thirty-eight bucks buys you the Starrett.

Buy it once. Buy it right. Own it for life.

http://www.mcfeelys.com/product/MS-0...Machinist-Rule

$25 got me the "Pinnacle," from Woodcraft. In truth, I think it's an
excellent piece.

http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/202...evel-Rule.aspx

They're still out there. Don't despair ... yet ;-)

Robatoy[_2_] October 5th 10 11:26 PM

stupid safety rulers...
 
On Oct 5, 5:48*pm, "Robert L. Wilson" wrote:
I wanted to buy a replacement 12" stainless steel ruler. Shopped all around
town. Apparently almost all now have rounded corners, presumably to keep us
from hurting ourselves, so the graduations don't go all the way to the end.
So you can't use them easily to make inside measurements...
So I can be trusted with a chain saw, a nail gun, a milling machine, etc.,
but I need to be protected from sharp corners on my RULER ???????????
Bob Wilson
(It does look like Grizzly has one that it as at least squared off at one
end with graduations clear to that end.)


I have 2 of these:

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/pag...67&cat=1,43513

When I can't find either one within 10 seconds, I break out in a cold
sweat......

tommyboy October 5th 10 11:52 PM

stupid safety rulers...
 
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 16:48:28 -0500, "Robert L. Wilson"
wrote:

I wanted to buy a replacement 12" stainless steel ruler. Shopped all around
town. Apparently almost all now have rounded corners, presumably to keep us
from hurting ourselves, so the graduations don't go all the way to the end.
So you can't use them easily to make inside measurements...
So I can be trusted with a chain saw, a nail gun, a milling machine, etc.,
but I need to be protected from sharp corners on my RULER ???????????
Bob Wilson
(It does look like Grizzly has one that it as at least squared off at one
end with graduations clear to that end.)


Woodpeck has a crapload.

DJ Delorie October 6th 10 12:56 AM

stupid safety rulers...
 
On 10/05/2010 05:48 PM, Robert L. Wilson wrote:
so the graduations don't go all the way to the end.


That's what grinders are for :-)

Max October 6th 10 01:25 AM

stupid safety rulers...
 
"Robert L. Wilson" wrote in message
...
I wanted to buy a replacement 12" stainless steel ruler. Shopped all around
town. Apparently almost all now have rounded corners, presumably to keep
us
from hurting ourselves, so the graduations don't go all the way to the
end.
So you can't use them easily to make inside measurements...
So I can be trusted with a chain saw, a nail gun, a milling machine, etc.,
but I need to be protected from sharp corners on my RULER ???????????
Bob Wilson
(It does look like Grizzly has one that it as at least squared off at one
end with graduations clear to that end.)





Have you seen these?
http://tinyurl.com/2dacfp4

Max


J. Clarke[_2_] October 6th 10 02:07 AM

stupid safety rulers...
 
In article ,
says...

I wanted to buy a replacement 12" stainless steel ruler. Shopped all around
town. Apparently almost all now have rounded corners, presumably to keep us
from hurting ourselves, so the graduations don't go all the way to the end.
So you can't use them easily to make inside measurements...
So I can be trusted with a chain saw, a nail gun, a milling machine, etc.,
but I need to be protected from sharp corners on my RULER ???????????
Bob Wilson
(It does look like Grizzly has one that it as at least squared off at one
end with graduations clear to that end.)


Check McMaster--they've got more than a dozen 12" stainless rules
starting at under 6 bucks, most of them squared and with graduations to
the end.

Or treat yourself to a Starrett combination square, which includes a
12" chrome ruler of Starrett quality.

Steve Turner[_3_] October 6th 10 02:20 AM

stupid safety rulers...
 
On 10/5/2010 5:26 PM, Robatoy wrote:
On Oct 5, 5:48 pm, "Robert L. wrote:
I wanted to buy a replacement 12" stainless steel ruler. Shopped all around
town. Apparently almost all now have rounded corners, presumably to keep us
from hurting ourselves, so the graduations don't go all the way to the end.
So you can't use them easily to make inside measurements...
So I can be trusted with a chain saw, a nail gun, a milling machine, etc.,
but I need to be protected from sharp corners on my RULER ???????????
Bob Wilson
(It does look like Grizzly has one that it as at least squared off at one
end with graduations clear to that end.)


I have 2 of these:

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/pag...67&cat=1,43513

When I can't find either one within 10 seconds, I break out in a cold
sweat......


I think I need that one to augment these:

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/pag...68&cat=1,43513

I have all but the 36" version, and they've worked out great for me.

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Steve Turner[_3_] October 6th 10 02:21 AM

stupid safety rulers...
 
On 10/5/2010 6:56 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
On 10/05/2010 05:48 PM, Robert L. Wilson wrote:
so the graduations don't go all the way to the end.


That's what grinders are for :-)


Been there, done that, still use the ruler I did it to. :-)

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HeyBub[_3_] October 6th 10 03:55 AM

stupid safety rulers...
 
Robert L. Wilson wrote:
I wanted to buy a replacement 12" stainless steel ruler. Shopped all
around town. Apparently almost all now have rounded corners,
presumably to keep us from hurting ourselves, so the graduations
don't go all the way to the end. So you can't use them easily to make
inside measurements...
So I can be trusted with a chain saw, a nail gun, a milling machine,
etc., but I need to be protected from sharp corners on my RULER
???????????
Bob Wilson
(It does look like Grizzly has one that it as at least squared off at
one end with graduations clear to that end.)


You should avoid using the end of any measuring device; that's where the
error is.

For example, the original meter standard is the distance between two lines
drawn on a Platinum-Iridium bar, not a plank of metal exactly one meter
long.



-MIKE- October 6th 10 04:02 AM

stupid safety rulers...
 
On 10/5/10 9:55 PM, HeyBub wrote:

You should avoid using the end of any measuring device; that's where the
error is.


I think that mindset comes from using cheap rules.
I buy expensive rules, now, after learning my lesson. I check them
before leaving the store, or send them back if they don't check out.


--

-MIKE-

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--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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Robatoy[_2_] October 6th 10 04:12 AM

stupid safety rulers...
 
On Oct 5, 10:55*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
Robert L. Wilson wrote:
I wanted to buy a replacement 12" stainless steel ruler. Shopped all
around town. Apparently almost all now have rounded corners,
presumably to keep us from hurting ourselves, so the graduations
don't go all the way to the end. So you can't use them easily to make
inside measurements...
So I can be trusted with a chain saw, a nail gun, a milling machine,
etc., but I need to be protected from sharp corners on my RULER
???????????
Bob Wilson
(It does look like Grizzly has one that it as at least squared off at
one end with graduations clear to that end.)


You should avoid using the end of any measuring device; that's where the
error is.

For example, the original meter standard is the distance between two lines
drawn on a Platinum-Iridium bar, not a plank of metal exactly one meter
long.


To check your rule, get one a meter long and check it against the
distance travelled by light in vacuum in 1299,792,458 of a second

Martin H. Eastburn October 6th 10 04:35 AM

stupid safety rulers...
 
Now now...

The ends of rules are not to be used anyway due to the 'end' effect of it
shortening.

One is to use from the "1" marker where the end might be dented or warn.

If you have to use the tip corner - order one from a major scale line.
e.g. from Starrett themselves.

Martin

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On 10/5/2010 4:48 PM, Robert L. Wilson wrote:
I wanted to buy a replacement 12" stainless steel ruler. Shopped all around
town. Apparently almost all now have rounded corners, presumably to keep us
from hurting ourselves, so the graduations don't go all the way to the end.
So you can't use them easily to make inside measurements...
So I can be trusted with a chain saw, a nail gun, a milling machine, etc.,
but I need to be protected from sharp corners on my RULER ???????????
Bob Wilson
(It does look like Grizzly has one that it as at least squared off at one
end with graduations clear to that end.)



Steve Turner[_3_] October 6th 10 04:50 AM

stupid safety rulers...
 
On 10/5/2010 9:55 PM, HeyBub wrote:
Robert L. Wilson wrote:
I wanted to buy a replacement 12" stainless steel ruler. Shopped all
around town. Apparently almost all now have rounded corners,
presumably to keep us from hurting ourselves, so the graduations
don't go all the way to the end. So you can't use them easily to make
inside measurements...
So I can be trusted with a chain saw, a nail gun, a milling machine,
etc., but I need to be protected from sharp corners on my RULER
???????????
Bob Wilson
(It does look like Grizzly has one that it as at least squared off at
one end with graduations clear to that end.)


You should avoid using the end of any measuring device; that's where the
error is.

For example, the original meter standard is the distance between two lines
drawn on a Platinum-Iridium bar, not a plank of metal exactly one meter
long.


Guess I'd better throw away my depth gauge then.

--
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Larry Jaques[_3_] October 6th 10 04:41 PM

stupid safety rulers...
 
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 20:12:39 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
wrote:

On Oct 5, 10:55*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
Robert L. Wilson wrote:
I wanted to buy a replacement 12" stainless steel ruler. Shopped all
around town. Apparently almost all now have rounded corners,
presumably to keep us from hurting ourselves, so the graduations
don't go all the way to the end. So you can't use them easily to make
inside measurements...
So I can be trusted with a chain saw, a nail gun, a milling machine,
etc., but I need to be protected from sharp corners on my RULER
???????????
Bob Wilson
(It does look like Grizzly has one that it as at least squared off at
one end with graduations clear to that end.)


You should avoid using the end of any measuring device; that's where the
error is.

For example, the original meter standard is the distance between two lines
drawn on a Platinum-Iridium bar, not a plank of metal exactly one meter
long.


To check your rule, get one a meter long and check it against the
distance travelled by light in vacuum in 1?299,792,458 of a second


With your handy, new, pocket Furlongs per Fortnight lightmeter?
Excellent idea, Toy. Gotta go now. My MrFusion is coming out of the
shop this morning.

--
Know how to listen, and you will
profit even from those who talk badly.
-- Plutarch

CW[_6_] October 6th 10 05:15 PM

stupid safety rulers...
 

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...

You should avoid using the end of any measuring device; that's where the
error is.

That would be true for tape measures and yardsticks but not precision rules.
If they are manufactured to federal specs, the baseline for all measurements
to prove calibration is the end.




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