The pool cue just broke again. It's done it twice already, and I've
repaired it with Titebond II. It broke once near the tip collar, once
splitting down about 2 inches, and now it's broken near the tip collar
again. There's no glue on the wood fibers, so it looks like the glue joint
held.

I'm about to fix it a third time, but since it's breaking in the same place
should I be looking at a different fix next time? I'd probably drill the
center out and replace it with a dowel, but I'm open to suggestions.

Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.

Puckdropper wrote:
The pool cue just broke again. It's done it twice already, and I've
repaired it with Titebond II. It broke once near the tip collar, once
splitting down about 2 inches, and now it's broken near the tip collar
again. There's no glue on the wood fibers, so it looks like the glue
joint held.

I'm about to fix it a third time, but since it's breaking in the same
place should I be looking at a different fix next time? I'd probably
drill the center out and replace it with a dowel, but I'm open to
suggestions.


I'd be looking for a new pool cue...

--

-Mike-

"Mike Marlow" wrote

I'd be looking for a new pool cue...

Yep, it must have too much grain runout.
--
Jim in NC

Subject

Good laminating epoxy and patience.

Forget the 5 minute stuff.

Lew

Lew Hodgett wrote:
Subject

Good laminating epoxy and patience.

Forget the 5 minute stuff.

Lew



Not everything that is shaped like a good pool cue
is a good pool cue. You want consistency around the
full radius of the tip or it's a piece of junk (to a serious player).
I'm not saying that goal is impossible with epoxy, because
I'm not sure, I'm just skeptical. I'd rather eliminate that factor
from the get-go.

OTOH, I've seen broom handles that would make better cues
than they have in many places. Just depends what you need.

Bill

Bill wrote:



Not everything that is shaped like a good pool cue
is a good pool cue. You want consistency around the
full radius of the tip or it's a piece of junk (to a serious player).
I'm not saying that goal is impossible with epoxy, because
I'm not sure, I'm just skeptical. I'd rather eliminate that factor
from the get-go.

OTOH, I've seen broom handles that would make better cues
than they have in many places. Just depends what you need.


Bill... it looks like you're coming into your own in this thread.

--

-Mike-

"Bill" wrote in message
...

OTOH, I've seen broom handles that would make better cues
than they have in many places. Just depends what you need.

Ages ago the "Our Place Bar" used to have a mop and broom tournament on
Wednesday nights. You could bring any mop or broom you wanted or select one
of those in the bar. The only rule was it had to be a complete unmodified
factory made and commercially sold mop or broom with everything in tact. If
a rag mop it had to have a head on it etc etc. The bar put up the prizes
which were 3 ribeye steaks for for 1st, and 2 for 2nd. I found the key was
to find one you could shoot with that didn't spin around too much on you,
and you didn't whack yourself in the ribs on a long stroke. I took home
some of those steaks a few times.

"Morgans" wrote in news:O1lbo.65160$Bh2.56782
@newsfe04.iad:


"Mike Marlow" wrote

I'd be looking for a new pool cue...

Yep, it must have too much grain runout.

I took a closer look at the end, and I'm inclined to agree with you. The
grain seems to run at an angle from side-to-side rather than being close to
parallel.

Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.

Is this a temper tantrum thing after missing that important shot?

How, the hell, do you break a pool cue?

LOL

"Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message
...
The pool cue just broke again. It's done it twice already, and I've
repaired it with Titebond II. It broke once near the tip collar, once
splitting down about 2 inches, and now it's broken near the tip collar
again. There's no glue on the wood fibers, so it looks like the glue joint
held.

I'm about to fix it a third time, but since it's breaking in the same place
should I be looking at a different fix next time? I'd probably drill the
center out and replace it with a dowel, but I'm open to suggestions.

Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.

"Josepi" wrote in message
...
Is this a temper tantrum thing after missing that important shot?

How, the hell, do you break a pool cue?

LOL

Breaking with it can break the cue. Also, slapping someone up side the head
will do it. Sometimes it will fall over, and crack, then the next hard
shot, boink! If you want to break one, it can be done.

And then there's temper tantrums, too.

Steve ;-)

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"Josepi" wrote in
:

Is this a temper tantrum thing after missing that important shot?

How, the hell, do you break a pool cue?

LOL

No temper tantrums.

Wood has many interesting properties due to being alive at one time, and
some of those appear to be coming in to play here. Each time this cue
broke, it was after hitting the cue ball, so it's an impact along the
grain type thing.

Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.

Puckdropper wrote:
wrote in
:

Is this a temper tantrum thing after missing that important shot?

How, the hell, do you break a pool cue?

I once accidentally broke a real cheapy over my knee in a college bar
when the 8-ball went in the wrong pocket. I really didn't mean to break
it. This real big bouncer dude, who didn't understand that it was an
accident, asked me to pay him $15 or $20. I suspect that was probably
health-insurance money well-spent.



LOL

No temper tantrums.

Wood has many interesting properties due to being alive at one time, and
some of those appear to be coming in to play here. Each time this cue
broke, it was after hitting the cue ball, so it's an impact along the
grain type thing.

Puckdropper

May have been a lot like some of the golf I have seen played....LOL


"Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message
...
No temper tantrums.

Wood has many interesting properties due to being alive at one time, and
some of those appear to be coming in to play here. Each time this cue
broke, it was after hitting the cue ball, so it's an impact along the
grain type thing.

Puckdropper


"Josepi" wrote in
:

Is this a temper tantrum thing after missing that important shot?

How, the hell, do you break a pool cue?

LOL

"Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message
...
The pool cue just broke again. It's done it twice already, and I've
repaired it with Titebond II. It broke once near the tip collar, once
splitting down about 2 inches, and now it's broken near the tip collar
again. There's no glue on the wood fibers, so it looks like the glue
joint
held.

I'm about to fix it a third time, but since it's breaking in the same
place
should I be looking at a different fix next time? I'd probably drill the
center out and replace it with a dowel, but I'm open to suggestions.

Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.

Fix it as best you can, and retire it to the rack. I have some CueTec
fiberglass cues I like that are bulletproof, although I did have to replace
the tips that popped off with elk hide. Made a drill/lathe to turn them to
finish off the oversized tips.

Then I found a couple of outstanding cues at yard sales, one from the
forties or fifties that looks as good as a Palmer, for $1. The other is a
bit gaudy, with its dark inlays, but is light and shoots good. Then I found
my wife's old Brunswick in the attic that she bought new in the sixties for
$32. Fat handle, I like it. Got good punch.

Once that wood splits, the repeated blows just keep working on the fracture
until it pops again. I had one that I tried to fix, and finally gave up.

Isn't it time to get a Tad, Palmer, Mizuni, McDermott, or Szamboti?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Barry-Szamboti-C...efaultDomain_0

You deserve it. ;-)

Steve

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special free book offer!

"Steve B" wrote in
:


Fix it as best you can, and retire it to the rack. I have some CueTec
fiberglass cues I like that are bulletproof, although I did have to
replace the tips that popped off with elk hide. Made a drill/lathe to
turn them to finish off the oversized tips.

Then I found a couple of outstanding cues at yard sales, one from the
forties or fifties that looks as good as a Palmer, for $1. The other
is a bit gaudy, with its dark inlays, but is light and shoots good.
Then I found my wife's old Brunswick in the attic that she bought new
in the sixties for $32. Fat handle, I like it. Got good punch.

Once that wood splits, the repeated blows just keep working on the
fracture until it pops again. I had one that I tried to fix, and
finally gave up.

Isn't it time to get a Tad, Palmer, Mizuni, McDermott, or Szamboti?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Barry-Szamboti-C...-Extras-see-be
low-/260651764642?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0

You deserve it. ;-)

Steve

visit my blog at http://cabgbypasssurgery.com
special free book offer!


You guys are good at spending my money. ;-)

I borrowed my sister's cue last night, and it's got a nice tip on it. It
seemed to cushion the shot a little bit, so the cue ball didn't feel like
it was shooting off.

If I keep going, I might wind up with a particle board tip... Half glue,
half wood stuffs. :-)

Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.

"Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message
...
"Steve B" wrote in
:


Fix it as best you can, and retire it to the rack. I have some CueTec
fiberglass cues I like that are bulletproof, although I did have to
replace the tips that popped off with elk hide. Made a drill/lathe to
turn them to finish off the oversized tips.

Then I found a couple of outstanding cues at yard sales, one from the
forties or fifties that looks as good as a Palmer, for $1. The other
is a bit gaudy, with its dark inlays, but is light and shoots good.
Then I found my wife's old Brunswick in the attic that she bought new
in the sixties for $32. Fat handle, I like it. Got good punch.

Once that wood splits, the repeated blows just keep working on the
fracture until it pops again. I had one that I tried to fix, and
finally gave up.

Isn't it time to get a Tad, Palmer, Mizuni, McDermott, or Szamboti?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Barry-Szamboti-C...-Extras-see-be
low-/260651764642?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0

You deserve it. ;-)

Steve

visit my blog at http://cabgbypasssurgery.com
special free book offer!


You guys are good at spending my money. ;-)

I borrowed my sister's cue last night, and it's got a nice tip on it. It
seemed to cushion the shot a little bit, so the cue ball didn't feel like
it was shooting off.

If I keep going, I might wind up with a particle board tip... Half glue,
half wood stuffs. :-)

Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.

I like elk hide. Tricky to get on, to trim, and to get to stick, but that's
part of the game.

Steve

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visit my site, leave an e mail, and get a free book!

If the is cue is something special, you might try turning down the
tip and using a metal ferrule (copper pipe? or other) where this
one is splitting. Install with epoxy to take up any gaps.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DanG
Keep the whole world singing . . .


"Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message
...
"Steve B" wrote in
:


Fix it as best you can, and retire it to the rack. I have some
CueTec
fiberglass cues I like that are bulletproof, although I did
have to
replace the tips that popped off with elk hide. Made a
drill/lathe to
turn them to finish off the oversized tips.

Then I found a couple of outstanding cues at yard sales, one
from the
forties or fifties that looks as good as a Palmer, for $1. The
other
is a bit gaudy, with its dark inlays, but is light and shoots
good.
Then I found my wife's old Brunswick in the attic that she
bought new
in the sixties for $32. Fat handle, I like it. Got good
punch.

Once that wood splits, the repeated blows just keep working on
the
fracture until it pops again. I had one that I tried to fix,
and
finally gave up.

Isn't it time to get a Tad, Palmer, Mizuni, McDermott, or
Szamboti?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Barry-Szamboti-C...-Extras-see-be
low-/260651764642?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0

You deserve it. ;-)

Steve

visit my blog at http://cabgbypasssurgery.com
special free book offer!


You guys are good at spending my money. ;-)

I borrowed my sister's cue last night, and it's got a nice tip
on it. It
seemed to cushion the shot a little bit, so the cue ball didn't
feel like
it was shooting off.

If I keep going, I might wind up with a particle board tip...
Half glue,
half wood stuffs. :-)

Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.

DanG wrote:
If the is cue is something special, you might try turning down the
tip and using a metal ferrule (copper pipe? or other) where this
one is splitting. Install with epoxy to take up any gaps.


Gasp!!!

IMO, If it's really good 2-piece cue, I suggest you buy a new shaft for
it. If you paid less than $50 for it, then I think it's time for an
upgrade. No good cue's were designed to be made shorter anyway (the same
goes for fishing rods that get crushed in the car door).

Like Lew said about computers being a tool--replace it with one that
works and enjoy your game.

Bill

My suggestion was not meant to shorten the cue, only to see about
finding an appropriate diameter tube or pipe that equals the
existing OD and turn down the diameter of the tip enough to
install it.

I agree that time spent is only worth it if this is something
special.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DanG
Keep the whole world singing . . .


"Bill" wrote in message
...
DanG wrote:
If the is cue is something special, you might try turning down
the
tip and using a metal ferrule (copper pipe? or other) where
this
one is splitting. Install with epoxy to take up any gaps.


Gasp!!!

IMO, If it's really good 2-piece cue, I suggest you buy a new
shaft for it. If you paid less than $50 for it, then I think
it's time for an upgrade. No good cue's were designed to be made
shorter anyway (the same goes for fishing rods that get crushed
in the car door).

Like Lew said about computers being a tool--replace it with one
that works and enjoy your game.

Bill

DanG wrote:
If the is cue is something special, you might try turning down the
tip and using a metal ferrule (copper pipe? or other) where this
one is splitting. Install with epoxy to take up any gaps.

If you know anything about squirt and deflection, you would not use a
metal ferrule. You want the tip (last 6 inches) as light as possible.

--
Jack
Fight Socialism.... Buy a Ford!
http://jbstein.com

"Jack Stein" wrote in message
...
DanG wrote:
If the is cue is something special, you might try turning down the tip
and using a metal ferrule (copper pipe? or other) where this one is
splitting. Install with epoxy to take up any gaps.

I don't see why a plastic or bone ferrule wouldn't do the same job.

The pool cue just broke again. It's done it twice already, and I've
repaired it with Titebond II. It broke once near the tip collar, once
splitting down about 2 inches, and now it's broken near the tip collar
again. There's no glue on the wood fibers, so it looks like the glue
joint held.

I'm about to fix it a third time, but since it's breaking in the same
place should I be looking at a different fix next time? I'd probably drill the
center out and replace it with a dowel, but I'm open to suggestions.
Puckdropper

In all my years I've never seen a que break that much. I would look
for something stronger than Titebond. Epoxy sounds like it would last.

Fix it as best you can, and retire it to the rack. I have some CueTec
fiberglass cues I like that are bulletproof, although I did have to replace
the tips that popped off with elk hide. Made a drill/lathe to turn them to
finish off the oversized tips.

I'd retire it too. Never could stand fiberglass cues. Never had the
response that wood does, at least not for me.

Then I found a couple of outstanding cues at yard sales, one from the
forties or fifties that looks as good as a Palmer, for $1. The other is a
bit gaudy, with its dark inlays, but is light and shoots good. Then I found
my wife's old Brunswick in the attic that she bought new in the sixties for
$32. Fat handle, I like it. Got good punch.

Yard sales and pawn shops are good places to find old treasures, but
it takes patience to find a real good one.

Once that wood splits, the repeated blows just keep working on the fracture
until it pops again. I had one that I tried to fix, and finally gave up.

Agreed. The damage is done. Better to replace it.

Isn't it time to get a Tad, Palmer, Mizuni, McDermott, or Szamboti?
Steve

I prefer a Gus Szamboti but they aren't cheap. Having known Gus and
having him work on my cue was a priviledge. My second choice is a
Mali, but they don't make them as good as they did decades ago.

I once saw/touched a Balabuska. It's like the Stradivarius of cues.

If you've played enough, you never loose your touch. It just takes a
little practice to get back into the swing of things.

Isn't it time to get a Tad, Palmer, Mizuni, McDermott, or Szamboti?
Steve

I prefer a Gus Szamboti but they aren't cheap. Having known Gus and
having him work on my cue was a priviledge.`Casper

The one on the left is almost dead on for my que, including the case.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tchlink:top:en

I should have bought several of Gus's cues back then. I'll never stop
kicking myself for letting go too many good deals on those cues.

"Casper" wrote in message
...
Isn't it time to get a Tad, Palmer, Mizuni, McDermott, or Szamboti?
Steve

I prefer a Gus Szamboti but they aren't cheap. Having known Gus and
having him work on my cue was a priviledge.`Casper

The one on the left is almost dead on for my que, including the case.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tchlink:top:en

I should have bought several of Gus's cues back then. I'll never stop
kicking myself for letting go too many good deals on those cues.

If I hit that eighty million on super ball this week, I'll buy it for you.

Steve

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visit my site, leave an e mail, and get a free book!

Somehow, I feel confident making that offer ................

Isn't it time to get a Tad, Palmer, Mizuni, McDermott, or Szamboti?
Steve

I prefer a Gus Szamboti but they aren't cheap. Having known Gus and
having him work on my cue was a priviledge.`Casper

The one on the left is almost dead on for my que, including the case.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tchlink:top:en

I should have bought several of Gus's cues back then. I'll never stop
kicking myself for letting go too many good deals on those cues.


If I hit that eighty million on super ball this week, I'll buy it for you.
Steve
visit my blog at http://cabgbypasssurgery.com
visit my site, leave an e mail, and get a free book!
Somehow, I feel confident making that offer ................

LOL! Thanks. That would definitely get me playing full time again.

I kept meaning to catch up with Gus and ask him to teach me his craft.
Was a time in there when I lost my day job and put a lot of time in at
a local pool hall Gus frequented. Someone was always showing off their
new Szamboti. I was all set to ask Guz is I could apprentice but that
was about the time of his heart problem and surgery and I just
couldn't bring myself to impose on him with his bad health. Boy do I
regret that now. Been woodworking all kinds of other things for years
and always keep wondering what I'd be doing today if I had learned
that craft.

Wow. Now you've got me really remembering those days, all my practice,
tourneys and such. Didn't realize how long it's been and how much I
missed them. Now I'll have to make a trip back east just to see if the
halls are still there, especially the Four Seasons where Steve Mizerak
used to occasion. Even he is gone now, sadly. What memories.
`Casper

On 8/20/2010 8:02 AM, Casper wrote:

Isn't it time to get a Tad, Palmer, Mizuni, McDermott, or Szamboti?
Steve

I prefer a Gus Szamboti but they aren't cheap. Having known Gus and
having him work on my cue was a priviledge. My second choice is a
Mali, but they don't make them as good as they did decades ago.

I once saw/touched a Balabuska. It's like the Stradivarius of cues.

While in college and young testerone charged youth, I played in
college tournaments, and whipped up on the traveling salesman at the
local beer joints playing nine ball. AAMOF, Used to practice my straight
pool game on the snooker tables at the Texas A&M bowling and billiards
in the MSC (was the student manager of same for a couple of years), won
a few tournaments, a good deal of cash, and actually got pretty good at
tournament three cushion billiards, mainly for the fun of it.

But Sheeeeesh! Back then the coveted pool cue was a "Willi Mosconi", and
I have NEVER even heard of any of the above, so times have indeed
changed.

If you've played enough, you never loose your touch. It just takes a
little practice to get back into the swing of things.

I thought/was hoping so too, until Leon and our wives played a few games
last year at a local billiard hall. My fingers wouldn't bend enough to
make a decent bridge, and when looking over my trifocals I couldn't even
see the damn object ball!

So, yes Mable ... you do lose your touch, eventually.

--
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Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

"Swingman" wrote


While in college and young testerone charged youth, I played in college
tournaments, and whipped up on the traveling salesman at the local beer
joints playing nine ball. AAMOF, Used to practice my straight pool game on
the snooker tables at the Texas A&M bowling and billiards in the MSC (was
the student manager of same for a couple of years), won a few tournaments,
a good deal of cash, and actually got pretty good at tournament three
cushion billiards, mainly for the fun of it.

I could have made money at it if I didn't drink. But I almost always came
home with the same amount of money I left with, or more, had a good time,
and bought lots of drinks for myself and the entourage.

Steve

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visit my site, leave an e mail, and get a free book!

While in college and young testerone charged youth, I played in
college tournaments, and whipped up on the traveling salesman at the
local beer joints playing nine ball. AAMOF, Used to practice my straight
pool game on the snooker tables at the Texas A&M bowling and billiards
in the MSC (was the student manager of same for a couple of years), won
a few tournaments, a good deal of cash, and actually got pretty good at
tournament three cushion billiards, mainly for the fun of it.

Yeah, I did college tourneys too. Feels like a century ago. I even
remember when a local community college once got a hustler in during
the evening classes trying to sap moeny from the students. The
director of activities knew me well and called me to come in, check
him out and, if possible, get him to leave. Sure enough there was a
guy in his early forties pretending to be a night student hustling
from the night classes. I watched him a couple of days, then one night
got there before him and was playing. He offered to play and teach me.
After several games he asked if I ever played for money. A couple of
games later he was winning a $10 or $20 here and there. An hour later
we were at $50. A bit later $100 and then I started winning. Last game
I cleared the table straight away, put my cue down, looked at him and
told him wrong turf. He realized I wasn't just a student either.
Heh.. but the other students were happy and got a real kick out of it.
I was just glad he took that well and just moved on to something
outside of colleges and poor students.

But Sheeeeesh! Back then the coveted pool cue was a "Willi Mosconi", and
I have NEVER even heard of any of the above, so times have indeed
changed.

That is a while ago.I haven't seen a Mosconi in a very long time. I
loved Mosconi. He was always the best player in my mind.

If you've played enough, you never loose your touch. It just takes a
little practice to get back into the swing of things.

I thought/was hoping so too, until Leon and our wives played a few games
last year at a local billiard hall. My fingers wouldn't bend enough to
make a decent bridge, and when looking over my trifocals I couldn't even
see the damn object ball!

So, yes Mable ... you do lose your touch, eventually.

Guess I'm luckier than most yet. Still got most of my eyesight and I
keep my fingers going all the time. Yeah I've got my share of
arthritis, but it's more in my spine than anywhere else. A few years
ago I stopped at a new local pool hall just to relax and see how I'd
do. I figured I'd be awful, but to my surprise, I was doing pretty
damn good after about an hour. Guess my turn will come tho, someday,
hopefully not too soon.
`Casper

On 8/21/2010 9:01 AM, Casper wrote:

After several games he asked if I ever played for money. A couple of
games later he was winning a $10 or $20 here and there. An hour later
we were at $50. A bit later $100 and then I started winning. Last game
I cleared the table straight away, put my cue down, looked at him and
told him wrong turf. He realized I wasn't just a student either.
Heh.. but the other students were happy and got a real kick out of it.
I was just glad he took that well and just moved on to something
outside of colleges and poor students.

Good story that brings back memories ... the thrill of the head game was
exciting, and, after learning early the truism that no matter how good
you are there is always somebody better, to hustle the hustler made it
even more so.

If nothing else, taught you how to pick your battles.

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Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On Aug 19, 5:58*am, Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote:
The pool cue just broke again. *It's done it twice already, and I've
repaired it with Titebond II. *It broke once near the tip collar, once
splitting down about 2 inches, and now it's broken near the tip collar
again. *There's no glue on the wood fibers, so it looks like the glue joint
held.

I'm about to fix it a third time, but since it's breaking in the same place
should I be looking at a different fix next time? *I'd probably drill the
center out and replace it with a dowel, but I'm open to suggestions.

Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.

Better take up golf. It's much harder (not impossible) to break a club
and you have a lot of spares in the bag. And you get more exercise,
too. Plus all that space in the rec room taken up by a big pool table
that SWMBO uses for folding laundry...the list goes on G

Joe