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Sealing edge of particle board - Update
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 13:07:38 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 3:48:03 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 9/7/2016 2:24 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 4:20:39 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:38:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote: On 9/6/16 2:33 AM, wrote: My husband and I have carpeted stairs made of paticle board. I'd like to ditch the carpet, scrape out the staples, fill those particle boards and paint the stairs. I have read everyone's ideas for filling and smoothing a surface. This surface will need to be durable enough to withstand continual foot scraping and weight changes as we run up and down stairs. And the treated surfaces must be sandable. Which filler would you gentlemen recommend? Any recommended type of paint for such stairs? I would fill them with these. :-) http://www.lowes.com/pd/RetroTread-11-5-in-x-42-in-Raw-Unfinished-Red-Oak-Stair-Tread/3191553 Aren't those going to throw off the rise of the top step? Assuming the steps are all evenly spaced now, isn't the rise from the top step onto the landing/hallway going to be .625" less than rise of the rest of the steps? A minor problem going up, but it could be a safety issue coming down. As my grandfather used to say when explaining the proper way to build steps: "The feet remember." The steps are already non-standard because the carpet has been removed. Carpet and underpadding is very close to the thickness of the "treads" Maybe I missed it, but where does it say that the carpet has been removed? My husband and I have carpeted stairs made of paticle board. I'd like to ditch the carpet, Sounds to me like a future plan, not a completed task. They *have* something that they'd *like to* change. Unless Clare has had other communications with the OP, I'm curious how he can claim: "The steps are already non-standard because the carpet has been removed." OK - to be 100% accurate for all you use-net nazis - The bare partical board steps will already be non-standard because the originall design included the thickness of the carpet in the calculations IF it was initially code compliant. the applicable code: R311.7.4.1 Riser height. The maximum riser height shall be 73/4 inches (196 mm). The riser shall be measured vertically between leading edges of the adjacent treads. The greatest riser height within any flight of stairs shall not exceed the smallest by more than 3/8 inch (9.5 mm). The top step could have been 3/8" taller than the bottom step and still have been within code - and adding 3/4 inch stair tread caps (much thicker than we have been talking about) woud STILL be within code, with the bottom step now being 3/8" higher than the top one. IF, by the very odd chance, the steps were perfectly spaceda 3/8" tread cap would still be within code. I still think someone is being extremely pedantic. |
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On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 8:19:39 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:24:14 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 4:20:39 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:38:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote: On 9/6/16 2:33 AM, wrote: My husband and I have carpeted stairs made of paticle board. I'd like to ditch the carpet, scrape out the staples, fill those particle boards and paint the stairs. I have read everyone's ideas for filling and smoothing a surface. This surface will need to be durable enough to withstand continual foot scraping and weight changes as we run up and down stairs. And the treated surfaces must be sandable. Which filler would you gentlemen recommend? Any recommended type of paint for such stairs? I would fill them with these. :-) http://www.lowes.com/pd/RetroTread-11-5-in-x-42-in-Raw-Unfinished-Red-Oak-Stair-Tread/3191553 Aren't those going to throw off the rise of the top step? Assuming the steps are all evenly spaced now, isn't the rise from the top step onto the landing/hallway going to be .625" less than rise of the rest of the steps? A minor problem going up, but it could be a safety issue coming down. As my grandfather used to say when explaining the proper way to build steps: "The feet remember." The steps are already non-standard because the carpet has been removed. Carpet and underpadding is very close to the thickness of the "treads" Maybe I missed it, but where does it say that the carpet has been removed? You didn't read the initial post? It's quoted right at the top of your reply - but I will repeat it for you. Quoted from the OP: "My husband and I have carpeted stairs made of paticle board. I'd like to ditch the carpet, scrape out the staples, fill those particle boards and paint the stairs." Maybe I missed it again. Please point out where it says the carpet has already been removed. Remove the carpet and the step hight is no longer "to code" if it was before. Replacing the carpet with a stair tread cap brings it back to spec. You guys have WAY too much spare time if you have to argue such arcane points - without reading what you are complaining about even - - - - I read exactly what it says and didn't assume anything that wasn't written. They *have* (present tense) carpeted stairs, they would *like to* (a desire to do something sometime in the future) remove it. |
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Sealing edge of particle board - Update
On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 8:29:42 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 13:07:38 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 3:48:03 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 9/7/2016 2:24 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 4:20:39 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:38:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote: On 9/6/16 2:33 AM, wrote: My husband and I have carpeted stairs made of paticle board. I'd like to ditch the carpet, scrape out the staples, fill those particle boards and paint the stairs. I have read everyone's ideas for filling and smoothing a surface. This surface will need to be durable enough to withstand continual foot scraping and weight changes as we run up and down stairs. And the treated surfaces must be sandable. Which filler would you gentlemen recommend? Any recommended type of paint for such stairs? I would fill them with these. :-) http://www.lowes.com/pd/RetroTread-11-5-in-x-42-in-Raw-Unfinished-Red-Oak-Stair-Tread/3191553 Aren't those going to throw off the rise of the top step? Assuming the steps are all evenly spaced now, isn't the rise from the top step onto the landing/hallway going to be .625" less than rise of the rest of the steps? A minor problem going up, but it could be a safety issue coming down. As my grandfather used to say when explaining the proper way to build steps: "The feet remember." The steps are already non-standard because the carpet has been removed. Carpet and underpadding is very close to the thickness of the "treads" Maybe I missed it, but where does it say that the carpet has been removed? My husband and I have carpeted stairs made of paticle board. I'd like to ditch the carpet, Sounds to me like a future plan, not a completed task. They *have* something that they'd *like to* change. Unless Clare has had other communications with the OP, I'm curious how he can claim: "The steps are already non-standard because the carpet has been removed." OK - to be 100% accurate for all you use-net nazis - The bare partical board steps will already be non-standard because the originall design included the thickness of the carpet in the calculations IF it was initially code compliant. the applicable code: R311.7.4.1 Riser height. The maximum riser height shall be 73/4 inches (196 mm). The riser shall be measured vertically between leading edges of the adjacent treads. The greatest riser height within any flight of stairs shall not exceed the smallest by more than 3/8 inch (9.5 mm). The top step could have been 3/8" taller than the bottom step and still have been within code - and adding 3/4 inch stair tread caps (much thicker than we have been talking about) woud STILL be within code, with the bottom step now being 3/8" higher than the top one. IF, by the very odd chance, the steps were perfectly spaceda 3/8" tread cap would still be within code. I still think someone is being extremely pedantic. And I still think you were incorrect when you said the carpet was removed. |
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On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 17:55:58 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 8:29:42 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 13:07:38 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 3:48:03 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 9/7/2016 2:24 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 4:20:39 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:38:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote: On 9/6/16 2:33 AM, wrote: My husband and I have carpeted stairs made of paticle board. I'd like to ditch the carpet, scrape out the staples, fill those particle boards and paint the stairs. I have read everyone's ideas for filling and smoothing a surface. This surface will need to be durable enough to withstand continual foot scraping and weight changes as we run up and down stairs. And the treated surfaces must be sandable. Which filler would you gentlemen recommend? Any recommended type of paint for such stairs? I would fill them with these. :-) http://www.lowes.com/pd/RetroTread-11-5-in-x-42-in-Raw-Unfinished-Red-Oak-Stair-Tread/3191553 Aren't those going to throw off the rise of the top step? Assuming the steps are all evenly spaced now, isn't the rise from the top step onto the landing/hallway going to be .625" less than rise of the rest of the steps? A minor problem going up, but it could be a safety issue coming down. As my grandfather used to say when explaining the proper way to build steps: "The feet remember." The steps are already non-standard because the carpet has been removed. Carpet and underpadding is very close to the thickness of the "treads" Maybe I missed it, but where does it say that the carpet has been removed? My husband and I have carpeted stairs made of paticle board. I'd like to ditch the carpet, Sounds to me like a future plan, not a completed task. They *have* something that they'd *like to* change. Unless Clare has had other communications with the OP, I'm curious how he can claim: "The steps are already non-standard because the carpet has been removed." OK - to be 100% accurate for all you use-net nazis - The bare partical board steps will already be non-standard because the originall design included the thickness of the carpet in the calculations IF it was initially code compliant. the applicable code: R311.7.4.1 Riser height. The maximum riser height shall be 73/4 inches (196 mm). The riser shall be measured vertically between leading edges of the adjacent treads. The greatest riser height within any flight of stairs shall not exceed the smallest by more than 3/8 inch (9.5 mm). The top step could have been 3/8" taller than the bottom step and still have been within code - and adding 3/4 inch stair tread caps (much thicker than we have been talking about) woud STILL be within code, with the bottom step now being 3/8" higher than the top one. IF, by the very odd chance, the steps were perfectly spaceda 3/8" tread cap would still be within code. I still think someone is being extremely pedantic. And I still think you were incorrect when you said the carpet was removed. And you were incorrect in ASS U ME ing there was a problem with the step heights. In order to install the tread caps in question, the carpet has to come off. In order to fill and paint the partical board, the carpet has to come off. You are being pedantic. |
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On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 9:43:34 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 9/7/2016 7:55 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 8:19:39 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:24:14 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 4:20:39 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:38:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote: On 9/6/16 2:33 AM, wrote: My husband and I have carpeted stairs made of paticle board. I'd like to ditch the carpet, scrape out the staples, fill those particle boards and paint the stairs. I have read everyone's ideas for filling and smoothing a surface. This surface will need to be durable enough to withstand continual foot scraping and weight changes as we run up and down stairs. And the treated surfaces must be sandable. Which filler would you gentlemen recommend? Any recommended type of paint for such stairs? I would fill them with these. :-) http://www.lowes.com/pd/RetroTread-11-5-in-x-42-in-Raw-Unfinished-Red-Oak-Stair-Tread/3191553 Aren't those going to throw off the rise of the top step? Assuming the steps are all evenly spaced now, isn't the rise from the top step onto the landing/hallway going to be .625" less than rise of the rest of the steps? A minor problem going up, but it could be a safety issue coming down. As my grandfather used to say when explaining the proper way to build steps: "The feet remember." The steps are already non-standard because the carpet has been removed. Carpet and underpadding is very close to the thickness of the "treads" Maybe I missed it, but where does it say that the carpet has been removed? You didn't read the initial post? It's quoted right at the top of your reply - but I will repeat it for you. Quoted from the OP: "My husband and I have carpeted stairs made of paticle board. I'd like to ditch the carpet, scrape out the staples, fill those particle boards and paint the stairs." Maybe I missed it again. Please point out where it says the carpet has already been removed. I think you might be being a bit AR here. We all know that the carpet is or was there. But after removal she wants to know how to deal with the PB steps. And for that matter, if they don't remove the carpet to some degree it would be hard to determine that particle board is under the carpet. A N D that seems to no longer be a mystery. Yeah, but Clare likes it when I'm AR. You can tell by how excited he gets. ;-) |
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On 9/7/2016 10:34 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 9:43:34 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: Snip "My husband and I have carpeted stairs made of paticle board. I'd like to ditch the carpet, scrape out the staples, fill those particle boards and paint the stairs." Maybe I missed it again. Please point out where it says the carpet has already been removed. I think you might be being a bit AR here. We all know that the carpet is or was there. But after removal she wants to know how to deal with the PB steps. And for that matter, if they don't remove the carpet to some degree it would be hard to determine that particle board is under the carpet. A N D that seems to no longer be a mystery. Yeah, but Clare likes it when I'm AR. You can tell by how excited he gets. ;-) ;~) |
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On 9/7/2016 10:34 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
Yeah, but Clare likes it when I'm AR. You can tell by how excited he gets. ;-) LMAO ... -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net https://www.google.com/+eWoodShop https://plus.google.com/+KarlCaillouet/posts http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ https://www.facebook.com/eWoodShop-206166666122228 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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In article ,
says... On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 8:19:39 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:24:14 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 4:20:39 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:38:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote: On 9/6/16 2:33 AM, wrote: My husband and I have carpeted stairs made of paticle board. I'd like to ditch the carpet, scrape out the staples, fill those particle boards and paint the stairs. I have read everyone's ideas for filling and smoothing a surface. This surface will need to be durable enough to withstand continual foot scraping and weight changes as we run up and down stairs. And the treated surfaces must be sandable. Which filler would you gentlemen recommend? Any recommended type of paint for such stairs? I would fill them with these. :-) http://www.lowes.com/pd/RetroTread-11-5-in-x-42-in-Raw-Unfinished-Red-Oak-Stair-Tread/3191553 Aren't those going to throw off the rise of the top step? Assuming the steps are all evenly spaced now, isn't the rise from the top step onto the landing/hallway going to be .625" less than rise of the rest of the steps? A minor problem going up, but it could be a safety issue coming down. As my grandfather used to say when explaining the proper way to build steps: "The feet remember." The steps are already non-standard because the carpet has been removed. Carpet and underpadding is very close to the thickness of the "treads" Maybe I missed it, but where does it say that the carpet has been removed? You didn't read the initial post? It's quoted right at the top of your reply - but I will repeat it for you. Quoted from the OP: "My husband and I have carpeted stairs made of paticle board. I'd like to ditch the carpet, scrape out the staples, fill those particle boards and paint the stairs." Maybe I missed it again. Please point out where it says the carpet has already been removed. Remove the carpet and the step hight is no longer "to code" if it was before. Replacing the carpet with a stair tread cap brings it back to spec. You guys have WAY too much spare time if you have to argue such arcane points - without reading what you are complaining about even - - - - I read exactly what it says and didn't assume anything that wasn't written. They *have* (present tense) carpeted stairs, they would *like to* (a desire to do something sometime in the future) remove it. Did you make your wife sign a "Roommate agreement"? |
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On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 7:53:18 PM UTC-4, J. Clarke wrote:
In article , says... On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 8:19:39 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:24:14 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 4:20:39 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:38:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote: On 9/6/16 2:33 AM, wrote: My husband and I have carpeted stairs made of paticle board. I'd like to ditch the carpet, scrape out the staples, fill those particle boards and paint the stairs. I have read everyone's ideas for filling and smoothing a surface. This surface will need to be durable enough to withstand continual foot scraping and weight changes as we run up and down stairs. And the treated surfaces must be sandable. Which filler would you gentlemen recommend? Any recommended type of paint for such stairs? I would fill them with these. :-) http://www.lowes.com/pd/RetroTread-11-5-in-x-42-in-Raw-Unfinished-Red-Oak-Stair-Tread/3191553 Aren't those going to throw off the rise of the top step? Assuming the steps are all evenly spaced now, isn't the rise from the top step onto the landing/hallway going to be .625" less than rise of the rest of the steps? A minor problem going up, but it could be a safety issue coming down. As my grandfather used to say when explaining the proper way to build steps: "The feet remember." The steps are already non-standard because the carpet has been removed. Carpet and underpadding is very close to the thickness of the "treads" Maybe I missed it, but where does it say that the carpet has been removed? You didn't read the initial post? It's quoted right at the top of your reply - but I will repeat it for you. Quoted from the OP: "My husband and I have carpeted stairs made of paticle board. I'd like to ditch the carpet, scrape out the staples, fill those particle boards and paint the stairs." Maybe I missed it again. Please point out where it says the carpet has already been removed. Remove the carpet and the step hight is no longer "to code" if it was before. Replacing the carpet with a stair tread cap brings it back to spec. You guys have WAY too much spare time if you have to argue such arcane points - without reading what you are complaining about even - - - - I read exactly what it says and didn't assume anything that wasn't written. They *have* (present tense) carpeted stairs, they would *like to* (a desire to do something sometime in the future) remove it. Did you make your wife sign a "Roommate agreement"? 32 years ago we agreed to a number of things. We're still happily agreeing to them. Knock knock knock, Penny. Knock, knock, knock, Penny. Knock, knock, knock, Penny. |
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On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 18:06:09 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 7:53:18 PM UTC-4, J. Clarke wrote: In article , says... On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 8:19:39 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:24:14 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 4:20:39 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:38:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote: On 9/6/16 2:33 AM, wrote: My husband and I have carpeted stairs made of paticle board. I'd like to ditch the carpet, scrape out the staples, fill those particle boards and paint the stairs. I have read everyone's ideas for filling and smoothing a surface. This surface will need to be durable enough to withstand continual foot scraping and weight changes as we run up and down stairs. And the treated surfaces must be sandable. Which filler would you gentlemen recommend? Any recommended type of paint for such stairs? I would fill them with these. :-) http://www.lowes.com/pd/RetroTread-11-5-in-x-42-in-Raw-Unfinished-Red-Oak-Stair-Tread/3191553 Aren't those going to throw off the rise of the top step? Assuming the steps are all evenly spaced now, isn't the rise from the top step onto the landing/hallway going to be .625" less than rise of the rest of the steps? A minor problem going up, but it could be a safety issue coming down. As my grandfather used to say when explaining the proper way to build steps: "The feet remember." The steps are already non-standard because the carpet has been removed. Carpet and underpadding is very close to the thickness of the "treads" Maybe I missed it, but where does it say that the carpet has been removed? You didn't read the initial post? It's quoted right at the top of your reply - but I will repeat it for you. Quoted from the OP: "My husband and I have carpeted stairs made of paticle board. I'd like to ditch the carpet, scrape out the staples, fill those particle boards and paint the stairs." Maybe I missed it again. Please point out where it says the carpet has already been removed. Remove the carpet and the step hight is no longer "to code" if it was before. Replacing the carpet with a stair tread cap brings it back to spec. You guys have WAY too much spare time if you have to argue such arcane points - without reading what you are complaining about even - - - - I read exactly what it says and didn't assume anything that wasn't written. They *have* (present tense) carpeted stairs, they would *like to* (a desire to do something sometime in the future) remove it. Did you make your wife sign a "Roommate agreement"? 32 years ago we agreed to a number of things. We're still happily agreeing to them. Knock knock knock, Penny. Knock, knock, knock, Penny. Knock, knock, knock, Penny. Who's Penny? |
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On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 9:56:09 PM UTC-4, krw wrote:
On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 18:06:09 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 7:53:18 PM UTC-4, J. Clarke wrote: In article , says... On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 8:19:39 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:24:14 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 4:20:39 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:38:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote: On 9/6/16 2:33 AM, wrote: My husband and I have carpeted stairs made of paticle board. I'd like to ditch the carpet, scrape out the staples, fill those particle boards and paint the stairs. I have read everyone's ideas for filling and smoothing a surface. This surface will need to be durable enough to withstand continual foot scraping and weight changes as we run up and down stairs. And the treated surfaces must be sandable. Which filler would you gentlemen recommend? Any recommended type of paint for such stairs? I would fill them with these. :-) http://www.lowes.com/pd/RetroTread-11-5-in-x-42-in-Raw-Unfinished-Red-Oak-Stair-Tread/3191553 Aren't those going to throw off the rise of the top step? Assuming the steps are all evenly spaced now, isn't the rise from the top step onto the landing/hallway going to be .625" less than rise of the rest of the steps? A minor problem going up, but it could be a safety issue coming down. As my grandfather used to say when explaining the proper way to build steps: "The feet remember." The steps are already non-standard because the carpet has been removed. Carpet and underpadding is very close to the thickness of the "treads" Maybe I missed it, but where does it say that the carpet has been removed? You didn't read the initial post? It's quoted right at the top of your reply - but I will repeat it for you. Quoted from the OP: "My husband and I have carpeted stairs made of paticle board. I'd like to ditch the carpet, scrape out the staples, fill those particle boards and paint the stairs." Maybe I missed it again. Please point out where it says the carpet has already been removed. Remove the carpet and the step hight is no longer "to code" if it was before. Replacing the carpet with a stair tread cap brings it back to spec. You guys have WAY too much spare time if you have to argue such arcane points - without reading what you are complaining about even - - - - I read exactly what it says and didn't assume anything that wasn't written. They *have* (present tense) carpeted stairs, they would *like to* (a desire to do something sometime in the future) remove it. Did you make your wife sign a "Roommate agreement"? 32 years ago we agreed to a number of things. We're still happily agreeing to them. Knock knock knock, Penny. Knock, knock, knock, Penny. Knock, knock, knock, Penny. Who's Penny? If you have to ask that question then you probably didn't get the reference to the Roommate Agreement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJDeZIMoEUw |
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