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J T April 11th 04 12:10 AM

Semi OT - Pine Firewood
 
A few days ago someone stated in a thread that pine should not be
burned as firewood, because of the creosote buildup. Not necessarily.
The below quote was taken from he
http://www.courier-tribune.com/nws/f...ide011501.html Lots of info
on this, a couple minutes on google will turn up a bunch.

The quote:
Some people say that pine should not be burned for firewood. This is not
true. Pine can be burned for home heating. In fact, the heating value of
many of the Southern pines is higher than the less dense hardwood
species and equal to the medium density hardwoods like ash. Burning pine
may cause more creosote deposits in the chimney because of the resin
content in the smoke. However, creosote formation depends more on how
you burn the wood than on the species you use. A slow-burning fire in an
airtight stove will produce creosote regardless of species

JOAT
Don't e-mail me while I'm breathing.


Jon Endres, PE April 11th 04 12:43 AM

Semi OT - Pine Firewood
 

"J T" wrote in message
...
A few days ago someone stated in a thread that pine should not be
burned as firewood, because of the creosote buildup. Not necessarily.


Good thing, because I've got slabwood from 17,000 board feet of white pine
logs sitting in the yard, and it's gonna heat my house for at least a couple
of years.

Jon E



A Dubya April 11th 04 01:41 AM

Semi OT - Pine Firewood
 
I've got an outdoor woodboiler, that feeds a coil in a forced air furnace,
and heat exchanger for the ho****er tank. I burn tons (literally) of pine.
It causes more build up in the firebox and chimney, but cleans out fairly
quick with a couple of days worth of hardwood being burned.

Cheers,

aw



A Dubya April 11th 04 01:51 AM

Semi OT - Pine Firewood
 
but cleans out fairly quick

....cleans out fairly well.

....digesting the easter dinner, and just kicked out the guests.....I'm
spent.

Cheers,

aw



Dave in Fairfax April 11th 04 02:10 AM

Semi OT - Pine Firewood
 
"J T" wrote in message
A few days ago someone stated in a thread that pine should not be
burned as firewood, because of the creosote buildup. Not necessarily.

snip of references

I'm glad to be corrected. When I was growing up we were cautioned
against it because of the danger of chimney fires. We used to
toss some compound, can't remember the name of the stuff, into the
fire at regular intervals to make the creosote cake up and flake
off the chimney. I've seen chimney fires take out houses, they
were very impressive. If that much creosote can build up from
burning seasoned hardwood, it seems that pine would build it up
much more quickly. I don't have references, just anecdotal
rememberances.
Dave in Fairfax
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Gerald Ross April 11th 04 02:17 AM

Semi OT - Pine Firewood
 
J T wrote:
A few days ago someone stated in a thread that pine should not be
burned as firewood, because of the creosote buildup. Not necessarily.
The below quote was taken from he
http://www.courier-tribune.com/nws/f...ide011501.html Lots of info
on this, a couple minutes on google will turn up a bunch.

The quote:
Some people say that pine should not be burned for firewood. This is not
true. Pine can be burned for home heating. In fact, the heating value of
many of the Southern pines is higher than the less dense hardwood
species and equal to the medium density hardwoods like ash. Burning pine
may cause more creosote deposits in the chimney because of the resin
content in the smoke. However, creosote formation depends more on how
you burn the wood than on the species you use. A slow-burning fire in an
airtight stove will produce creosote regardless of species

JOAT
Don't e-mail me while I'm breathing.

Pine is the main wood we burned when I was growing up. In a fireplace.
Every 2 or 3 years while a big hot fire was burning, the chimney would
"burn out". Which means the creosote/soot in the chimney caught fire and
it would sound like a locomotive coming down the chimney, but it only
lasted a few seconds. The problem is when this happens and your chimney
is old and has cracks--it can start a house fire.

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jo4hn April 11th 04 02:22 AM

Semi OT - Pine Firewood
 
A Dubya wrote:

I've got an outdoor woodboiler, that feeds a coil in a forced air furnace,
and heat exchanger for the ho****er tank. I burn tons (literally) of pine.
It causes more build up in the firebox and chimney, but cleans out fairly
quick with a couple of days worth of hardwood being burned.

Cheers,

aw

Uh huh. Really. What kind of mash do you use?
j4


A Dubya April 11th 04 02:28 AM

Semi OT - Pine Firewood
 
....why bother with mash...sugar, water, yeast :)

Cheers,

aw



Luigi Zanasi April 12th 04 03:37 AM

Semi OT - Pine Firewood
 
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 19:10:10 -0400, (J T)
scribbled:

A few days ago someone stated in a thread that pine should not be
burned as firewood, because of the creosote buildup. Not necessarily.
The below quote was taken from he
http://www.courier-tribune.com/nws/f...ide011501.html Lots of info
on this, a couple minutes on google will turn up a bunch.


Here in the Yukon we do not have much choice: It's either pine and
spruce or poplar/aspen/cottonwood which are not worth anything. We
cringe at the thought of you guys burning maple and oak.

Most people have some kind of wood burning appliance and many heat
exclusively with wood, which is the cheapest fuel. The preferred fuel
is "firekill", wood from areas burned in forest fires. The wood is
already dry, but the soot makes it messy to deal with. Regular (once a
year) chimney cleaning is critical, and I don't think we have more
house fires than other places.

Luigi
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RB April 13th 04 02:25 AM

Semi OT - Pine Firewood
 
Was this it?
http://www.rutland.com/creosoot/link3.htm#100S

Try here for a novel way to keep your chimney free of creosote
http://www.swiftchimneycleaner.com/

I saw this demoed at the Home Show a couple of weeks ago in Augusta, ME.
Great product, but smallest home show I've ever seen.

RB

Dave in Fairfax wrote:
"J T" wrote in message
A few days ago someone stated in a thread that pine should not be
burned as firewood, because of the creosote buildup. Not necessarily.


snip of references

I'm glad to be corrected. When I was growing up we were cautioned
against it because of the danger of chimney fires. We used to
toss some compound, can't remember the name of the stuff, into the
fire at regular intervals to make the creosote cake up and flake
off the chimney. I've seen chimney fires take out houses, they
were very impressive. If that much creosote can build up from
burning seasoned hardwood, it seems that pine would build it up
much more quickly. I don't have references, just anecdotal
rememberances.
Dave in Fairfax



dave in fairfax April 13th 04 01:19 PM

Semi OT - Pine Firewood
 
RB wrote:
Was this it?
http://www.rutland.com/creosoot/link3.htm#100S
Try here for a novel way to keep your chimney free of creosote
http://www.swiftchimneycleaner.com/
I saw this demoed at the Home Show a couple of weeks ago in Augusta, ME.
Great product, but smallest home show I've ever seen.


Hard to say, it was about 30-35 years ago. As I remember, it came
in a yellow can witha a pry off top, alot like Johnson's Paste
Wax, and it had a scoop inside. A scoop or two into the fire was
all it took. This could be the same stuff, repackaged, but I
can't remember the name.

Dave in Fairfax
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