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Ivan Vegvary[_2_] May 4th 10 03:05 PM

Bi-fold door hardware question
 
Some while back, browsing at the library, I saw an ad in Fine Woodworking
for bi-fold door hardware that allows the door to swing OUT of the opening
when in the open position. In other words, the door folds back against one
of the adjacent walls instead of hogging room within the opening.

Can't find the article, don't know which issue. Tried Google. Does anybody
have a lead on this item?

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary


Ivan Vegvary[_2_] May 4th 10 09:20 PM

Bi-fold door hardware question
 

"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
...
Some while back, browsing at the library, I saw an ad in Fine Woodworking
for bi-fold door hardware that allows the door to swing OUT of the opening
when in the open position. In other words, the door folds back against
one of the adjacent walls instead of hogging room within the opening.

Can't find the article, don't know which issue. Tried Google. Does
anybody have a lead on this item?

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary

Okay, I guess I'm not describing this well enough. The typical bi-folds
that I have seen (closets mainly) are on a track and stack up against one
side of the opening thereby reducing the entry space.

The ad I saw in the magazine looked like the bi-folds would collapse (fold)
in half, as expected, and then swing out of the opening and onto the
adjacent wall of the main room.

In my case I have a small office with a 26 inch door. I have removed the
ordinary door years ago due to lack of swing space. However, I would like
to have privacy while, for example, my wife has company and I would like to
work on the computer. The solution I am trying to describe above would
allow me (when open) to fold the entire assembly flat against the living
room wall instead of it folded within the 26 inch entry space.

This is advertised as a newly developed item. If I remember correctly, the
assembly was a hinge thingy with a swing arm that allowed the unit to be
swung into the adjacent room and sit flat (but folded) against the wall.

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary


dpb May 4th 10 09:54 PM

Bi-fold door hardware question
 
Ivan Vegvary wrote:

"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
...
Some while back, browsing at the library, I saw an ad in Fine
Woodworking for bi-fold door hardware that allows the door to swing
OUT of the opening when in the open position. In other words, the
door folds back against one of the adjacent walls instead of hogging
room within the opening.

Can't find the article, don't know which issue. Tried Google. Does
anybody have a lead on this item?

....
This is advertised as a newly developed item. If I remember correctly,
the assembly was a hinge thingy with a swing arm that allowed the unit
to be swung into the adjacent room and sit flat (but folded) against the
wall.

....

I don't recall seeing such an ad but it sounds more like something that
would have been in Fine Homebuilding rather than FWW (I take both and
don't recall it there, either; just seems like more appropriate venue).

If you have no clue about general time frame of the issue and you're
convinced it's actually in one, best I could do would be to use the
search engine for articles on closet storage and similar; it seems to me
they tend to have such specialized ads in conjunction w/ articles on
related or similar topics. Does the online index include the "new
products" reviews sections if it was in there by any chance?

Woodworkers Hardware might be a place to start for the search itself...

No other good ideas/leads, sorry...

--

J Scott May 4th 10 10:51 PM

Bi-fold door hardware question
 
Check this website about halfway down.

http://www.closetdoorproducts.com/jo...e-kit-p-4.html
"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
...

"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
...
Some while back, browsing at the library, I saw an ad in Fine Woodworking
for bi-fold door hardware that allows the door to swing OUT of the
opening when in the open position. In other words, the door folds back
against one of the adjacent walls instead of hogging room within the
opening.

Can't find the article, don't know which issue. Tried Google. Does
anybody have a lead on this item?

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary

Okay, I guess I'm not describing this well enough. The typical bi-folds
that I have seen (closets mainly) are on a track and stack up against one
side of the opening thereby reducing the entry space.

The ad I saw in the magazine looked like the bi-folds would collapse
(fold) in half, as expected, and then swing out of the opening and onto
the adjacent wall of the main room.

In my case I have a small office with a 26 inch door. I have removed the
ordinary door years ago due to lack of swing space. However, I would like
to have privacy while, for example, my wife has company and I would like
to work on the computer. The solution I am trying to describe above would
allow me (when open) to fold the entire assembly flat against the living
room wall instead of it folded within the 26 inch entry space.

This is advertised as a newly developed item. If I remember correctly,
the assembly was a hinge thingy with a swing arm that allowed the unit to
be swung into the adjacent room and sit flat (but folded) against the
wall.

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary




Ivan Vegvary[_2_] May 4th 10 10:53 PM

Bi-fold door hardware question
 
YES, that is the one. "Johnson 1601 Hardware System"
http://www.closetdoorproducts.com/jo...e-kit-p-4.html

Thank you J. Scott !!!!

Ivan Vegvary

"J Scott" wrote in message
m...
Check this website about halfway down.

http://www.closetdoorproducts.com/jo...e-kit-p-4.html
"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
...

"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
...
Some while back, browsing at the library, I saw an ad in Fine
Woodworking for bi-fold door hardware that allows the door to swing OUT
of the opening when in the open position. In other words, the door
folds back against one of the adjacent walls instead of hogging room
within the opening.

Can't find the article, don't know which issue. Tried Google. Does
anybody have a lead on this item?

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary

Okay, I guess I'm not describing this well enough. The typical bi-folds
that I have seen (closets mainly) are on a track and stack up against one
side of the opening thereby reducing the entry space.

The ad I saw in the magazine looked like the bi-folds would collapse
(fold) in half, as expected, and then swing out of the opening and onto
the adjacent wall of the main room.

In my case I have a small office with a 26 inch door. I have removed the
ordinary door years ago due to lack of swing space. However, I would
like to have privacy while, for example, my wife has company and I would
like to work on the computer. The solution I am trying to describe above
would allow me (when open) to fold the entire assembly flat against the
living room wall instead of it folded within the 26 inch entry space.

This is advertised as a newly developed item. If I remember correctly,
the assembly was a hinge thingy with a swing arm that allowed the unit to
be swung into the adjacent room and sit flat (but folded) against the
wall.

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary





SonomaProducts.com May 4th 10 11:37 PM

Bi-fold door hardware question
 
On May 4, 2:53*pm, "Ivan Vegvary" wrote:
YES, that is the one. *"Johnson 1601 Hardware System"http://www.closetdoorproducts.com/johnson-hardware-18-in-full-access-...


Too funny!!! I was having trouble folding it out of the way but with
my new Johnson Hardware all is good now and I can bend it back out of
the way.

It's like the viagra commercial "if you experience any difficulty with
vision consult your doctor immediately" now that is one big boner if
it is obstructing your vision.

Ok, I'll slink back down into my burrow now.


[email protected] January 13th 17 03:26 PM

Bi-fold door hardware question
 
On Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 10:05:38 AM UTC-4, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
Some while back, browsing at the library, I saw an ad in Fine Woodworking
for bi-fold door hardware that allows the door to swing OUT of the opening
when in the open position. In other words, the door folds back against one
of the adjacent walls instead of hogging room within the opening.

Can't find the article, don't know which issue. Tried Google. Does anybody
have a lead on this item?

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary



[email protected] January 13th 17 03:27 PM

Bi-fold door hardware question
 
On Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 10:05:38 AM UTC-4, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
Some while back, browsing at the library, I saw an ad in Fine Woodworking
for bi-fold door hardware that allows the door to swing OUT of the opening
when in the open position. In other words, the door folds back against one
of the adjacent walls instead of hogging room within the opening.

Can't find the article, don't know which issue. Tried Google. Does anybody
have a lead on this item?

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary



[email protected] January 13th 17 03:27 PM

Bi-fold door hardware question
 
On Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 10:05:38 AM UTC-4, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
Some while back, browsing at the library, I saw an ad in Fine Woodworking
for bi-fold door hardware that allows the door to swing OUT of the opening
when in the open position. In other words, the door folds back against one
of the adjacent walls instead of hogging room within the opening.

Can't find the article, don't know which issue. Tried Google. Does anybody
have a lead on this item?

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary



dadiOH[_7_] January 13th 17 04:57 PM

Bi-fold door hardware question
 

wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 10:05:38 AM UTC-4, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
Some while back, browsing at the library, I saw an ad in Fine Woodworking
for bi-fold door hardware that allows the door to swing OUT of the
opening
when in the open position. In other words, the door folds back against
one
of the adjacent walls instead of hogging room within the opening.

Can't find the article, don't know which issue. Tried Google. Does
anybody
have a lead on this item?

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary


I didn't see a question from you, , but I'm guessing
you also want to have bifold doors fold into the room rather than the closet
just like Ivan did almost 7 years ago, right? If do, that is the normal
way, no special hardware needed.

Now answer a question for me: how could anyone screw up a bifold door
installation so they swing into the closer?



Leon[_7_] January 13th 17 05:11 PM

Bi-fold door hardware question
 
On 1/13/2017 10:57 AM, dadiOH wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 10:05:38 AM UTC-4, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
Some while back, browsing at the library, I saw an ad in Fine Woodworking
for bi-fold door hardware that allows the door to swing OUT of the
opening
when in the open position. In other words, the door folds back against
one
of the adjacent walls instead of hogging room within the opening.

Can't find the article, don't know which issue. Tried Google. Does
anybody
have a lead on this item?

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary


I didn't see a question from you, , but I'm guessing
you also want to have bifold doors fold into the room rather than the closet
just like Ivan did almost 7 years ago, right? If do, that is the normal
way, no special hardware needed.

Now answer a question for me: how could anyone screw up a bifold door
installation so they swing into the closer?



I think he is talking about a door that will open farther than normal to
take up less room in the opening, not make more room in the
closet/opposite side of the opening.

I think the solution would be to have bi fold doors that are wider than
the opening and fit on the outside of the opening. Unlock the inner
panels from the top and bottom tracks and you can swing both sides 180
degrees against the parallel walls that they are mounted to.

J. Clarke[_4_] January 15th 17 02:19 PM

Bi-fold door hardware question
 
In article TrednT4Ah-r-l-TFnZ2dnUU7-
, lcb11211@swbelldotnet
says...

On 1/13/2017 10:57 AM, dadiOH wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 10:05:38 AM UTC-4, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
Some while back, browsing at the library, I saw an ad in Fine Woodworking
for bi-fold door hardware that allows the door to swing OUT of the
opening
when in the open position. In other words, the door folds back against
one
of the adjacent walls instead of hogging room within the opening.

Can't find the article, don't know which issue. Tried Google. Does
anybody
have a lead on this item?

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary


I didn't see a question from you,
, but I'm guessing
you also want to have bifold doors fold into the room rather than the closet
just like Ivan did almost 7 years ago, right? If do, that is the normal
way, no special hardware needed.

Now answer a question for me: how could anyone screw up a bifold door
installation so they swing into the closer?



I think he is talking about a door that will open farther than normal to
take up less room in the opening, not make more room in the
closet/opposite side of the opening.

I think the solution would be to have bi fold doors that are wider than
the opening and fit on the outside of the opening. Unlock the inner
panels from the top and bottom tracks and you can swing both sides 180
degrees against the parallel walls that they are mounted to.


My dad just didn't put the track on. Was clumsy
but worked.


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