Every time I see this I think how cool it is. No big deal but I just
keep forgetting about it and when I see it done...

Using pocket screws for panel glue-ups.

My buddies cabinet shop rarely has to glue up panels. They mostly buy
their doors and use ply otherwise. When they have need for the odd job
it is always a hubub. They tried a few different things like this
vertical rack made of aluminum slats, etc.

Now, if one side of the panel will be hidden, like a table top, they
just run some pocket screws on each side of the glue joint, they clamp
the boards lightly down to a work table, run the pocket screws in from
each side and they can start using the panel right away.

No biggie, just kinda cool.

"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message
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Every time I see this I think how cool it is. No big deal but I just
keep forgetting about it and when I see it done...

Using pocket screws for panel glue-ups.

My buddies cabinet shop rarely has to glue up panels. They mostly buy
their doors and use ply otherwise. When they have need for the odd job
it is always a hubub. They tried a few different things like this
vertical rack made of aluminum slats, etc.

Now, if one side of the panel will be hidden, like a table top, they
just run some pocket screws on each side of the glue joint, they clamp
the boards lightly down to a work table, run the pocket screws in from
each side and they can start using the panel right away.

No biggie, just kinda cool.

Purists might scoff, but I won't. :-) Cool tip, thanks for passing it on.

jc

"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message
...
Every time I see this I think how cool it is. No big deal but I just
keep forgetting about it and when I see it done...

Using pocket screws for panel glue-ups.

My buddies cabinet shop rarely has to glue up panels. They mostly buy
their doors and use ply otherwise. When they have need for the odd job
it is always a hubub. They tried a few different things like this
vertical rack made of aluminum slats, etc.

Now, if one side of the panel will be hidden, like a table top, they
just run some pocket screws on each side of the glue joint, they clamp
the boards lightly down to a work table, run the pocket screws in from
each side and they can start using the panel right away.

No biggie, just kinda cool.

I am missing something here... ;~) Isn't that what pocket hose screws are
intended for in the first place? Was that a secret that I have known about
for the last 15 or so years?

I had always seen them used for joining face frames and boxes. and
stuff like that. Using them across the joint of a panel was new to
me.

My proof points that it is somewhat uncommon a

- All of the accessories Kreg sells are vice grips for holding down
face frame type joints, etc.
- The Kreg little hand held drill guides have two or three paired
holes, great for face frame sticks. But no big wide jig with a few far
spaced holes that would be good for a panel.
- I just fast forwarded through the "Joinery 101" video on the Kreg
site and the closest thing they show to a panel joint is a stave type
glue up with beveled edges (near end of video). They never show a true
flat panel.

As I said, this is a throw away tip. If it's not useful or
insightful...

On Mar 23, 6:51*am, "Leon" wrote:
"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message

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Every time I see this I think how cool it is. No big deal but I just
keep forgetting about it and when I see it done...

Using pocket screws for panel glue-ups.

My buddies cabinet shop rarely has to glue up panels. They mostly buy
their doors and use ply otherwise. When they have need for the odd job
it is always a hubub. They tried a few different things like this
vertical rack made of aluminum slats, etc.

Now, if one side of the panel will be hidden, like a table top, they
just run some pocket screws on each side of the glue joint, they clamp
the boards lightly down to a work table, run the pocket screws in from
each side and they can start using the panel right away.

No biggie, just kinda cool.

I am missing something here... ;~) *Isn't that what pocket hose screws are
intended for in the first place? *Was that a secret that I have known about
for the last 15 or so years?- Hide quoted text -

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"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message
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I had always seen them used for joining face frames and boxes. and
stuff like that. Using them across the joint of a panel was new to
me.

My proof points that it is somewhat uncommon a

- All of the accessories Kreg sells are vice grips for holding down
face frame type joints, etc.
- The Kreg little hand held drill guides have two or three paired
holes, great for face frame sticks. But no big wide jig with a few far
spaced holes that would be good for a panel.
- I just fast forwarded through the "Joinery 101" video on the Kreg
site and the closest thing they show to a panel joint is a stave type
glue up with beveled edges (near end of video). They never show a true
flat panel.

Yes they do. Twice.

On 3/23/2010 11:08 AM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
I had always seen them used for joining face frames and boxes. and
stuff like that. Using them across the joint of a panel was new to
me.

My proof points that it is somewhat uncommon a

- All of the accessories Kreg sells are vice grips for holding down
face frame type joints, etc.
- The Kreg little hand held drill guides have two or three paired
holes, great for face frame sticks. But no big wide jig with a few far
spaced holes that would be good for a panel.
- I just fast forwarded through the "Joinery 101" video on the Kreg
site and the closest thing they show to a panel joint is a stave type
glue up with beveled edges (near end of video). They never show a true
flat panel.

As I said, this is a throw away tip. If it's not useful or
insightful...

It's a good tip - and to add a bit of illustration, may I present a
photo of my (45-minute design/construction time) main shop bench - built
from 2-1/2 2x12x144 and a 2x4x120?

http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Misc/Vise640x480.jpg

All done with my (then) brand-new Kreg Jig...

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message
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I had always seen them used for joining face frames and boxes. and
stuff like that. Using them across the joint of a panel was new to
me.

My proof points that it is somewhat uncommon a

- All of the accessories Kreg sells are vice grips for holding down
face frame type joints, etc.
- The Kreg little hand held drill guides have two or three paired
holes, great for face frame sticks. But no big wide jig with a few far
spaced holes that would be good for a panel.
- I just fast forwarded through the "Joinery 101" video on the Kreg
site and the closest thing they show to a panel joint is a stave type
glue up with beveled edges (near end of video). They never show a true
flat panel.

As I said, this is a throw away tip. If it's not useful or
insightful...

Please don't take my comment as disrespectful or a pie in the eye. ;~)
Seriousely I think my very first joint, between a piece of walnut and
mahogany was actually to form a small panel. IMHO it is the panel joint is
the best of all possible joints. The first demo I saw years ago was the
union of 2 pieces of wood on their edges. ;~)
Thanks for sharing, again.

I guess I just fast forwarded to fast.

On Mar 23, 10:24*am, "CW" wrote:
"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message

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I had always seen them used for joining face frames and boxes. and
stuff like that. Using them across the joint of a panel was new to
me.

My proof points that it is somewhat uncommon a

* *- All of the accessories Kreg sells are vice grips for holding down
face frame type joints, etc.
* *- The Kreg little hand held drill guides have two or three paired
holes, great for face frame sticks. But no big wide jig with a few far
spaced holes that would be good for a panel.
* *- I just fast forwarded through the "Joinery 101" video on the Kreg
site and the closest thing they show to a panel joint is a stave type
glue up with beveled edges (near end of video). They never show a true
flat panel.

Yes they do. Twice.

No problemo.

I just made another discovery. Not only is a claw hammer good for
driving nails, but if you turn it around, you can pull them out too!

I guess I am too easily impressed. ;^)


On Mar 23, 12:00*pm, "Leon" wrote:
"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message

...
I had always seen them used for joining face frames and boxes. and
stuff like that. Using them across the joint of a panel was new to
me.

My proof points that it is somewhat uncommon a

* *- All of the accessories Kreg sells are vice grips for holding down
face frame type joints, etc.
* *- The Kreg little hand held drill guides have two or three paired
holes, great for face frame sticks. But no big wide jig with a few far
spaced holes that would be good for a panel.
* *- I just fast forwarded through the "Joinery 101" video on the Kreg
site and the closest thing they show to a panel joint is a stave type
glue up with beveled edges (near end of video). They never show a true
flat panel.

As I said, this is a throw away tip. If it's not useful or
insightful...

Please don't take my comment as disrespectful or a pie in the eye. *;~)
Seriousely I think my very first joint, between a piece of walnut and
mahogany was actually to form a small panel. *IMHO it is the panel joint is
the best of all possible joints. *The first demo I saw years ago was the
union of 2 pieces of wood on their edges. *;~)
Thanks for sharing, again.

"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message
...
No problemo.

I just made another discovery. Not only is a claw hammer good for
driving nails, but if you turn it around, you can pull them out too!

I guess I am too easily impressed. ;^)

Having 6 nailers with tails, what's a claw hammer? ;~)

"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message
...
Every time I see this I think how cool it is. No big deal but I just
keep forgetting about it and when I see it done...

Using pocket screws for panel glue-ups.

My buddies cabinet shop rarely has to glue up panels. They mostly buy
their doors and use ply otherwise. When they have need for the odd job
it is always a hubub. They tried a few different things like this
vertical rack made of aluminum slats, etc.

Now, if one side of the panel will be hidden, like a table top, they
just run some pocket screws on each side of the glue joint, they clamp
the boards lightly down to a work table, run the pocket screws in from
each side and they can start using the panel right away.

No biggie, just kinda cool.

And the best part, unlike with brads, you can remove them after the glue has
set up. ;~)

John

"Leon" wrote in message
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"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message
...
No problemo.

I just made another discovery. Not only is a claw hammer good for
driving nails, but if you turn it around, you can pull them out too!

I guess I am too easily impressed. ;^)

Having 6 nailers with tails, what's a claw hammer? ;~)

That's the thing you use to correct the nailer errors.


John

"Leon" wrote:

Having 6 nailers with tails, what's a claw hammer? ;~)

A gadget that doesn't work quite as well as "The International House
Key" at removing nails.

Lew

On 3/23/2010 4:05 PM, Leon wrote:
wrote in message
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No problemo.

I just made another discovery. Not only is a claw hammer good for
driving nails, but if you turn it around, you can pull them out too!

I guess I am too easily impressed. ;^)

Having 6 nailers with tails, what's a claw hammer? ;~)

It's that thing I use to whack my thumb with on occasion in order to
keep the thumb watchful and the eye in tune.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:39:25 -0700 (PDT), the infamous
"SonomaProducts.com" scrawled the following:

Every time I see this I think how cool it is. No big deal but I just
keep forgetting about it and when I see it done...

Using pocket screws for panel glue-ups.

My buddies cabinet shop rarely has to glue up panels. They mostly buy
their doors and use ply otherwise. When they have need for the odd job
it is always a hubub. They tried a few different things like this
vertical rack made of aluminum slats, etc.

Now, if one side of the panel will be hidden, like a table top, they
just run some pocket screws on each side of the glue joint, they clamp

Clarification: "on each side of the glue joint" on the _underside_ of
the table, right?


the boards lightly down to a work table, run the pocket screws in from
each side and they can start using the panel right away.

No biggie, just kinda cool.

Yeah, cool.

--
If we attend continually and promptly to the little that we can do, we
shall ere long be surprised to find how little remains that we cannot do.
-- Samuel Butler

Yeah on the underside but it might be an interesting detail on the top
side.


On Mar 23, 7:48*pm, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:39:25 -0700 (PDT), the infamous
"SonomaProducts.com" scrawled the following:

Every time I see this I think how cool it is. No big deal but I just
keep forgetting about it and when I see it done...

Using pocket screws for panel glue-ups.

My buddies cabinet shop rarely has to glue up panels. They mostly buy
their doors and use ply otherwise. When they have need for the odd job
it is always a hubub. They tried a few different things like this
vertical rack made of aluminum slats, etc.

Now, if one side of the panel will be hidden, like a table top, they
just run some pocket screws on each side of the glue joint, they clamp

Clarification: "on each side of the glue joint" on the _underside_ of
the table, right?

the boards lightly down to a work table, run the pocket screws in from
each side and they can start using the panel right away.

No biggie, just kinda cool.

Yeah, cool.

--
* If we attend continually and promptly to the little that we can do, we
shall ere long be surprised to find how little remains that we cannot do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Samuel Butler

On Mar 23, 10:51*pm, "SonomaProducts.com" wrote:
Yeah on the underside but it might be an interesting detail on the top
side.

WAIT....

Isn't that what those cool plugs are for? Making a contrasting
statement with the plugs?

Damnit....

I guess I never saw the video...

:^)

Robert

On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:39:25 -0700 (PDT), "SonomaProducts.com"
wrote:

Every time I see this I think how cool it is. No big deal but I just
keep forgetting about it and when I see it done...

Using pocket screws for panel glue-ups.

My buddies cabinet shop rarely has to glue up panels. They mostly buy
their doors and use ply otherwise. When they have need for the odd job
it is always a hubub. They tried a few different things like this
vertical rack made of aluminum slats, etc.

Now, if one side of the panel will be hidden, like a table top, they
just run some pocket screws on each side of the glue joint, they clamp
the boards lightly down to a work table, run the pocket screws in from
each side and they can start using the panel right away.

No biggie, just kinda cool.


I don't use them, but there was ONE time I would have liked to use
them. With table tops and cabinet doors you will see the oval
hole/plug, but with a fireplace mantle the ovals will never be seen
when the mantle is fastened to the wall.

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:51:48 -0700 (PDT), the infamous
"SonomaProducts.com" scrawled the following:

Yeah on the underside but it might be an interesting detail on the top
side.

Yeah, fill it with clear resin and call it a "feature".

--
If we attend continually and promptly to the little that we can do, we
shall ere long be surprised to find how little remains that we cannot do.
-- Samuel Butler