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-MIKE- October 8th 09 12:03 AM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
I picked up a Delta 37-285 Jointer on craigslist for $75....
hmmmm.... I think I forgot to *gloat* about that. :-)

It works great, as far as the motor, cutters, table, and all that go.

The problem is in the adjustable fence. The parts that make it
adjustable are made of that pot-metal that they used for the longest
time. You can see in the following lousy picture that they have cracked.
http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecrack.jpg

I've been using it without the fence. But I'd like to replace these parts.
They ARE NOT available from Delta or online retailers.

My options, as I see them, are to...
a) find old ones
2) build new ones out of hardwood, or
III) find new parts/assembly that fit this

I'm not thrilled about option "a" because I'll just get parts that will
crack, sooner or later.

So shoot... what do you think I should do?
Ideas and advice, let me have 'em!


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

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Robatoy[_2_] October 8th 09 12:14 AM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
On Oct 7, 7:03*pm, -MIKE- wrote:
I picked up a Delta 37-285 Jointer on craigslist for $75....
hmmmm.... I think I forgot to *gloat* about that. * *:-)

It works great, as far as the motor, cutters, table, and all that go.

The problem is in the adjustable fence. The parts that make it
adjustable are made of that pot-metal that they used for the longest
time. You can see in the following lousy picture that they have cracked.http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecrack.jpg

I've been using it without the fence. *But I'd like to replace these parts.
They ARE NOT available from Delta or online retailers.

My options, as I see them, are to...
a) find old ones
2) build new ones out of hardwood, or
III) find new parts/assembly that fit this

I'm not thrilled about option "a" because I'll just get parts that will
crack, sooner or later.

So shoot... what do you think I should do?
Ideas and advice, let me have 'em!

--

* -MIKE-

* "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
* * *--Elvin Jones *(1927-2004)
* --
*http://mikedrums.com
*
* ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply


Does the anti-kickback porkchop still work?

-MIKE- October 8th 09 12:22 AM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
Robatoy wrote:

Does the anti-kickback porkchop still work?


I was waiting for that. :-)


And some better pics (I replaced the original, too)...

http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecrackside.jpg
http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecracktop.jpg


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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[email protected] October 8th 09 12:44 AM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 

I picked up a Delta 37-285 Jointer ....


.... I've been using it without the fence. *....


Yikes!

But I'd like to replace these parts. ...


They ARE NOT available from Delta or online retailers.


Check out:

http://www.mikestools.com/Delta-Join...ists_2284.aspx

This might help -- I've gotten replacements parts from them in the
past.

Joel



Lew Hodgett[_4_] October 8th 09 12:45 AM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 

"-MIKE-" wrote:

My options, as I see them, are to...
a) find old ones
2) build new ones out of hardwood, or
III) find new parts/assembly that fit this


Option IV:

Use broken parts as mold and lay up epoxy & knitted glass to make
replacement parts.

Lew





SonomaProducts.com October 8th 09 12:55 AM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
I would ask over at owwm forum (Old Wood Working Machines).

Or, consider having something made. Doesn't need to be exactly the
same parts, jsut dream up some simple clamp and angle and have it
fab'd.


On Oct 7, 4:03*pm, -MIKE- wrote:
I picked up a Delta 37-285 Jointer on craigslist for $75....
hmmmm.... I think I forgot to *gloat* about that. * *:-)

It works great, as far as the motor, cutters, table, and all that go.

The problem is in the adjustable fence. The parts that make it
adjustable are made of that pot-metal that they used for the longest
time. You can see in the following lousy picture that they have cracked.http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecrack.jpg

I've been using it without the fence. *But I'd like to replace these parts.
They ARE NOT available from Delta or online retailers.

My options, as I see them, are to...
a) find old ones
2) build new ones out of hardwood, or
III) find new parts/assembly that fit this

I'm not thrilled about option "a" because I'll just get parts that will
crack, sooner or later.

So shoot... what do you think I should do?
Ideas and advice, let me have 'em!

--

* -MIKE-

* "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
* * *--Elvin Jones *(1927-2004)
* --
*http://mikedrums.com
*
* ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply



HeyBub[_3_] October 8th 09 01:30 AM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
Lew Hodgett wrote:
"-MIKE-" wrote:

My options, as I see them, are to...
a) find old ones
2) build new ones out of hardwood, or
III) find new parts/assembly that fit this


Option IV:

Use broken parts as mold and lay up epoxy & knitted glass to make
replacement parts.


Yeah, it looks as if they were cast. I bet an aluminum casting company could
knock the sucker out in a few minutes.

As an alternative, see if your local high school or vocational school has a
metal shop. They cast aluminum stuff (i.e., wall plaques, flagpole eagles,
etc.) all the time. I'll bet they would enjoy something different.

An even better alternative is to do your own foundry work! Here's a step by
step instruction set (there's probably dozens of similar techniques on the
web). You'll need:

2 large coffee cans
A drill with a 3/8" bit
A steel "tin can"
Some instant-light charcoal
A hair dryer with an air-only setting
Some tongs and leather gloves
A ****-load of aluminum cans
Tin snips
Molding sand (sand + kitty-litter clay)
Container for the sand
Bucket of water

Looks like this set-up can handle a bit less than a pint of molten aluminum,
but it's obvious the technique can be scaled up to handle any reasonable
amount.

Frankly, this looks like fun. There's fire and smoke and noxious fumes and
molten metal and screaming neighbors and all kinds of dangerous stuff.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Buil...cast-aluminum/



-MIKE- October 8th 09 01:42 AM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
wrote:
I picked up a Delta 37-285 Jointer ....


.... I've been using it without the fence. ....


Yikes!

But I'd like to replace these parts. ...


They ARE NOT available from Delta or online retailers.


Check out:

http://www.mikestools.com/Delta-Join...ists_2284.aspx

This might help -- I've gotten replacements parts from them in the
past.

Joel


When I said, they aren't available, I meant it. :-p


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

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-MIKE- October 8th 09 01:44 AM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
Lew Hodgett wrote:
"-MIKE-" wrote:

My options, as I see them, are to...
a) find old ones
2) build new ones out of hardwood, or
III) find new parts/assembly that fit this


Option IV:

Use broken parts as mold and lay up epoxy & knitted glass to make
replacement parts.

Lew


You never know, that might be something I'd get into.

If I had machining tools, I'd go for aluminum.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

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tom October 8th 09 01:49 AM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
On Oct 7, 4:14 pm, Robatoy wrote:


Does the anti-kickback porkchop still work?


Now I've got to clean my monitor! Of course it won't work without the
fence. Tom

-MIKE- October 8th 09 01:49 AM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
HeyBub wrote:
An even better alternative is to do your own foundry work!

http://www.instructables.com/id/Buil...cast-aluminum/


Ever since I saw "World's Fasted Indian," I've been wanting to do just
that.

Maybe this is my excuse. :-)


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

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Keith nuttle October 8th 09 02:23 AM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
-MIKE- wrote:
I picked up a Delta 37-285 Jointer on craigslist for $75....
hmmmm.... I think I forgot to *gloat* about that. :-)

It works great, as far as the motor, cutters, table, and all that go.

The problem is in the adjustable fence. The parts that make it
adjustable are made of that pot-metal that they used for the longest
time. You can see in the following lousy picture that they have cracked.
http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecrack.jpg

I've been using it without the fence. But I'd like to replace these parts.
They ARE NOT available from Delta or online retailers.

My options, as I see them, are to...
a) find old ones
2) build new ones out of hardwood, or
III) find new parts/assembly that fit this

I'm not thrilled about option "a" because I'll just get parts that will
crack, sooner or later.

So shoot... what do you think I should do?
Ideas and advice, let me have 'em!




This may be usefully in finding used parts. If nothing else it is an
interesting site.

http://www.owwm.com/

I do like the mold-your-own idea.

Swingman October 8th 09 02:31 AM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
-MIKE- wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
An even better alternative is to do your own foundry work!
http://www.instructables.com/id/Buil...cast-aluminum/


Ever since I saw "World's Fasted Indian," I've been wanting to do just
that.

Maybe this is my excuse. :-)


Once you pee on a lemon tree you don't need an excuse ...


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Michael Kenefick October 8th 09 02:49 AM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
Try Cattail Foundry. Some info can be found on old wood working
machines .org and .com. A Google search may work as well.

Mike in Ohio

-MIKE- wrote:
I picked up a Delta 37-285 Jointer on craigslist for $75....
hmmmm.... I think I forgot to *gloat* about that. :-)

It works great, as far as the motor, cutters, table, and all that go.

The problem is in the adjustable fence. The parts that make it
adjustable are made of that pot-metal that they used for the longest
time. You can see in the following lousy picture that they have cracked.
http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecrack.jpg

I've been using it without the fence. But I'd like to replace these parts.
They ARE NOT available from Delta or online retailers.

My options, as I see them, are to...
a) find old ones
2) build new ones out of hardwood, or
III) find new parts/assembly that fit this

I'm not thrilled about option "a" because I'll just get parts that will
crack, sooner or later.

So shoot... what do you think I should do?
Ideas and advice, let me have 'em!



Lew Hodgett[_4_] October 8th 09 02:54 AM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
"-MIKE-" wrote:


You never know, that might be something I'd get into.


Be careful, glass and resin is a slippery slope.

Like sex, once you try it.................................

Lew




Sonny October 8th 09 02:59 AM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
Your local Vo-Tech school should have a machine shop. Rather than
cast one, I'm sure one could be machined.

Sonny


-MIKE- October 8th 09 04:12 AM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
Swingman wrote:
-MIKE- wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
An even better alternative is to do your own foundry work!
http://www.instructables.com/id/Buil...cast-aluminum/


Ever since I saw "World's Fasted Indian," I've been wanting to do just
that.

Maybe this is my excuse. :-)


Once you pee on a lemon tree you don't need an excuse ...


I pee everywhere else, might as well pee on a lemon tree.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

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CW[_5_] October 8th 09 04:47 AM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
Unless it is a private school, chances are they will not do the work. I know
they won't around here.


"Sonny" wrote in message
...
Your local Vo-Tech school should have a machine shop. Rather than
cast one, I'm sure one could be machined.

Sonny




Puckdropper[_2_] October 8th 09 06:14 AM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
"HeyBub" wrote in
m:

*snip*

An even better alternative is to do your own foundry work! Here's a
step by step instruction set (there's probably dozens of similar
techniques on the web). You'll need:


*snip*

http://www.instructables.com/id/Buil...cast-aluminum/



That's a cool idea! I'd be afraid to try it because of the addiction of
yet another hobby. You might be able to use a crusher dust rather than
the sand if it'll lock together better. I know a lot of sand out there
is quite round in shape and doesn't lock together well.

Puckdropper
--
"The potential difference between the top and bottom of a tree is the
reason why all trees have to be grounded..." -- Bored Borg on
rec.woodworking

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

HeyBub[_3_] October 8th 09 12:44 PM

Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
Puckdropper wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in
m:

*snip*

An even better alternative is to do your own foundry work! Here's a
step by step instruction set (there's probably dozens of similar
techniques on the web). You'll need:


*snip*

http://www.instructables.com/id/Buil...cast-aluminum/



That's a cool idea! I'd be afraid to try it because of the addiction
of yet another hobby. You might be able to use a crusher dust rather
than the sand if it'll lock together better. I know a lot of sand
out there is quite round in shape and doesn't lock together well.


Yeah, the right kind of sand is important for detailed work, as is the
moisture content (imagine pouring molten metal into mud!). It also needs to
be sifted through a suitable mesh. If the object is 3-dimensional, you might
need two interlocking sand-holders and pour/vent channels.

I bet you could hone your technique using lead, which melts at a much lower
temperature. I used to cast lead bullets and fishing sinkers - pretty
trivial but kinda fun.



-MIKE- October 20th 09 01:30 AM

Solution for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
I picked up a Delta 37-285 Jointer on craigslist for $75....
hmmmm.... I think I forgot to *gloat* about that. :-)

It works great, as far as the motor, cutters, table, and all that go.

The problem is in the adjustable fence. The parts that make it
adjustable are made of that pot-metal that they used for the longest
time. You can see in the following lousy picture that they have cracked.
http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecrack.jpg


Found a new fence assembly on ebay for 20 bucks that is used on Delta's
newer jointers and disc sanders.

With a couple mods, it works very nicely.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

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SonomaProducts.com October 20th 09 06:07 PM

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You are one lucky bast$%. Congrats.

On Oct 19, 5:30*pm, -MIKE- wrote:
I picked up a Delta 37-285 Jointer on craigslist for $75....
hmmmm.... I think I forgot to *gloat* about that. * *:-)


It works great, as far as the motor, cutters, table, and all that go.


The problem is in the adjustable fence. The parts that make it
adjustable are made of that pot-metal that they used for the longest
time. You can see in the following lousy picture that they have cracked..
http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecrack.jpg


Found a new fence assembly on ebay for 20 bucks that is used on Delta's
newer jointers and disc sanders.

With a couple mods, it works very nicely.

--

* -MIKE-

* "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
* * *--Elvin Jones *(1927-2004)
* --
*http://mikedrums.com
*
* ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply



-MIKE- October 20th 09 06:16 PM

Solution for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
Tiger Woods said, "The more I practice, the luckier I get."
With me, it's the more I google... :-)
Things have been slow, so I had time to look.
Plus, never underestimate the power of ebay's "Make an Offer." :-)


SonomaProducts.com wrote:
You are one lucky bast$%. Congrats.

I picked up a Delta 37-285 Jointer on craigslist for $75....
hmmmm.... I think I forgot to *gloat* about that. :-)
It works great, as far as the motor, cutters, table, and all that go.
The problem is in the adjustable fence. The parts that make it
adjustable are made of that pot-metal that they used for the longest
time. You can see in the following lousy picture that they have cracked.
http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecrack.jpg

Found a new fence assembly on ebay for 20 bucks that is used on Delta's
newer jointers and disc sanders.

With a couple mods, it works very nicely.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

SonomaProducts.com October 20th 09 08:01 PM

Solution for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
Yeah, in return to a comment about how "talented" his son (John) was,
coach Elway angrly responded that it wasn't talent, it was the
insistance of always running one more lap when the rest of the team
hit the showers and more hard work that anyone else.

On Oct 20, 10:16*am, -MIKE- wrote:
Tiger Woods said, "The more I practice, the luckier I get."
With me, it's the more I google... :-)
Things have been slow, so I had time to look.
Plus, never underestimate the power of ebay's "Make an Offer." *:-)

SonomaProducts.com wrote:
You are one lucky bast$%. Congrats.


I picked up a Delta 37-285 Jointer on craigslist for $75....
hmmmm.... I think I forgot to *gloat* about that. * *:-)
It works great, as far as the motor, cutters, table, and all that go.
The problem is in the adjustable fence. The parts that make it
adjustable are made of that pot-metal that they used for the longest
time. You can see in the following lousy picture that they have cracked.
http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecrack.jpg
Found a new fence assembly on ebay for 20 bucks that is used on Delta's
newer jointers and disc sanders.


With a couple mods, it works very nicely.


--

* -MIKE-

* "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
* * *--Elvin Jones *(1927-2004)
* --
*http://mikedrums.com
*
* ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply



dpb October 20th 09 09:31 PM

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SonomaProducts.com wrote:
Yeah, in return to a comment about how "talented" his son (John) was,
coach Elway angrly responded that it wasn't talent, it was the
insistance of always running one more lap when the rest of the team
hit the showers and more hard work that anyone else.

....
That works _up_to_a_point. I'd never made a NBA player no matter how
much I worked on my jump shot... :)

There has to be a certain amount of innate ability in any field before
anybody is going to become top-level performer. Better than just
bumbler?--sure, that's something most people can attain w/ enough effort
but w/o the physical tools to start with there is no amount of effort
that will create a world-class athlete or a Pavarotti or Einstein or...

--

SonomaProducts.com October 20th 09 11:14 PM

Solution for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
 
You might be wrong. Read "outliers" and learn about the 10,000 hour
magic number.

On Oct 20, 1:31*pm, dpb wrote:
SonomaProducts.com wrote:
Yeah, in return to a comment about how "talented" his son (John) was,
coach Elway angrly responded that it wasn't talent, it was the
insistance of always running one more lap when the rest of the team
hit the showers and more hard work that anyone else.


...
That works _up_to_a_point. *I'd never made a NBA player no matter how
much I worked on my jump shot... :)

There has to be a certain amount of innate ability in any field before
anybody is going to become top-level performer. *Better than just
bumbler?--sure, that's something most people can attain w/ enough effort
but w/o the physical tools to start with there is no amount of effort
that will create a world-class athlete or a Pavarotti or Einstein or...

--



dpb October 21st 09 12:48 AM

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SonomaProducts.com wrote:
You might be wrong. Read "outliers" and learn about the 10,000 hour
magic number.

....

I might be indeed....indeed, there's a finite chance by quantum
mechanics a bowling ball can tunnel through a concrete wall, too, but it
ain't very likely we're any of us going to observe it happening...

:)

--

[email protected] November 4th 17 06:35 PM

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On Wednesday, October 7, 2009 at 7:03:35 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote:
I picked up a Delta 37-285 Jointer on craigslist for $75....
hmmmm.... I think I forgot to *gloat* about that. :-)

It works great, as far as the motor, cutters, table, and all that go.

The problem is in the adjustable fence. The parts that make it
adjustable are made of that pot-metal that they used for the longest
time. You can see in the following lousy picture that they have cracked.
http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecrack.jpg

I've been using it without the fence. But I'd like to replace these parts.
They ARE NOT available from Delta or online retailers.

My options, as I see them, are to...
a) find old ones
2) build new ones out of hardwood, or
III) find new parts/assembly that fit this

I'm not thrilled about option "a" because I'll just get parts that will
crack, sooner or later.

So shoot... what do you think I should do?
Ideas and advice, let me have 'em!


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

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Old thread, but for anyone else that finds this, I just replaced the rotted pot metal with a large washer. Set it once for 90 degrees and it works.

Ricksastar March 29th 18 01:44 PM

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replying to gtygartsr, Ricksastar wrote:
You have pictures?

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