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"Best" saw for accurate x-cuts and miters
Will a SCMS hold it's position if you tune it dead nuts to 90 degrees
and leave it there, or will it creep? I'm getting the sense that the ideal situation would be to have a separate SCMS (CMS, MS) for 45s and 90s, as well as one you use for odd angles that you change the adjustments on. I guess if there were a MS that had excellently ground detents that were dead nuts at 90 and 45 every time you moved it, that would be good too though. And much less expensive. Does Starrett make a SCMS? JP |
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Jay Pique wrote in
: Will a SCMS hold it's position if you tune it dead nuts to 90 degrees and leave it there, or will it creep? I'm getting the sense that the ideal situation would be to have a separate SCMS (CMS, MS) for 45s and 90s, as well as one you use for odd angles that you change the adjustments on. I guess if there were a MS that had excellently ground detents that were dead nuts at 90 and 45 every time you moved it, that would be good too though. And much less expensive. Does Starrett make a SCMS? JP Are you doing finish trim, like baseboards, window casings and crown, where you need to handle long lengths? If not, a shop-built sled on a well tuned table saw, with a dedicated angle, works very well. Actually safer for small pieces, and better backing, resulting in less tear-out. If, on the other hand, you are routinely handling pieces to 16', that's a different matter altogether. For trim work, I've been happy with the accuracy of my DeWalt 12"CMS (not slider). Disclaimer: it stays put in my shop, and doesn't routinely bounce around in the back of a pickup truck. I would honestly say that most, if not all of the error accumulated using that saw is due to my lack of patience and/or experience. Large detents at standard angles, at least on the table dimension. I don't routinely lay the blade over. Patriarch, who really IS going to finish the bathroom trim by the weekend. I promise. |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 13:18:29 -0500, Jay Pique
wrote: Will a SCMS hold it's position if you tune it dead nuts to 90 degrees and leave it there, or will it creep? I'm getting the sense that the ideal situation would be to have a separate SCMS (CMS, MS) for 45s and 90s, as well as one you use for odd angles that you change the adjustments on. IME, you are worried about a non-existant problem. Good sliders are dead accurate at 45 and 90, and they hold it forever, as near as I can tell. I keep hearing about how an SCMS should be less than perfectly accurate; in my experience, it just doesn't happen. Neither my Hitachi nor my PC has ever been less than perfect at 90 or 45 degrees, even after repeatedly switching back and forth between 45 and 90 many, many times over the years. And it's really easy to tell; cut 2 pieces on the same side of the saw and put the ends together. If you are cutting flat, square stock, and you don't have a dead solid seam with no gaps, and if you can't adjust the problem away or the problem comes back after you tune it, you need a better saw. |
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Jay Pique wrote:
Does Starrett make a SCMS? If they did, it would cost $347,000 for sure. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ |
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"Best" saw for accurate x-cuts and miters
On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 00:57:29 -0500, Silvan
wrote: Jay Pique wrote: Does Starrett make a SCMS? If they did, it would cost $347,000 for sure. But maaaaan would that thing be accurate. It would cut a much more 45 degree angle than any of the others for sure. In related news, has anyone ever used anything like this - http://tinyurl.com/2opb4 - for their glue-ups? And if you could get that sucker vibrating, you'd have one hell of a face frame finish sander. Whattaya think it'd cost to get it shipped to Syracuse, NY? JP ***************************** Honey.....I bought a new coffee table for you!! |
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"Best" saw for accurate x-cuts and miters
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 20:35:11 -0800, Tim Carver
wrote: On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 13:18:29 -0500, Jay Pique wrote: Will a SCMS hold it's position if you tune it dead nuts to 90 degrees and leave it there, or will it creep? I'm getting the sense that the ideal situation would be to have a separate SCMS (CMS, MS) for 45s and 90s, as well as one you use for odd angles that you change the adjustments on. IME, you are worried about a non-existant problem. Good sliders are dead accurate at 45 and 90, and they hold it forever, as near as I can tell. That's good to hear. I like the idea of putting a really good "glue line" rip blade on the TS and leaving it. Then just using the chopper with a good zero-clearance fence for 90s and miters. It'll save time for sure. JP |
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