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Why I hate Norm Abrams
On Aug 26, 1:55*pm, Smitty Two wrote:
In article , *Red Green wrote: Yea but at least once in a while, ya know..like first Saturday of the month or something, show a DIY roofer plug a nail into his kneecap. Make a nice lead-in to removing it on the Operation show.. Right. I'd like to see House and his team work through a complex set of symptoms and finally come to the conclusion that the patient has a nail in his kneecap. I think it was an episode of Blog Cabin on the DIY network last year where one of the twins nailed 3 fingers together with a nail gun. He missed everything crucial, including crucial days of work, which was all the drama on the show. "How are we going to get this done now that we're a man down?" Gimme a break - just hire 8 more of the workers that we never see on camera. |
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David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 8/23/2009 1:25 PM David Nebenzahl spake thus: [yes, it's Abram, not Abrams. Apparently they didn't name the tank after him.] Well, I don't personally hate him. Don't even know the guy. But that's the title of the latest piece by one of my favorite columnists in the /Berkeley Daily Planet/, Matt Cantor, local owner of a home-inspection business who writes a weekly column on home repair and maintenance. Here's a sample: I do genuinely hate these specific shows: "Hometime," "This Old House" and "The New Yankee Workshop." I hate them for one simple reason: they make most people feel like idiots. Heh; got some junk mail from /Popular Woodworking/ today (don't think I'll subscribe, as I got spoiled from reading /Fine Woodworking/). The pitch features the cover from their August 2005 issue, with a photo of Norm in his shop. The article title is "In the Shop with Norm Abram: We Debunk 7 Myths About TV's Frugal Yankee". Wonder what the myths are. Anyone have this issue lying around? I remember that issue, way back when and they were all softball questions. You know, "Does Norm own the shop" and "Does Norm really have a power tool fetish" and "Does Norm actually build all those projects himself", that kind of thing. I will say, Popular Woodworking surprised me, I got it on a whim one year and have kept renewing ever since. FWW, PWW and a multi-year subscription to Wood that someone got me is all I read these days. |
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On 8/26/2009 1:29 PM Brian Henderson spake thus:
I will say, Popular Woodworking surprised me, I got it on a whim one year and have kept renewing ever since. FWW, PWW and a multi-year subscription to Wood that someone got me is all I read these days. Who needs Playboy or Penthouse when one has a good woodworking magazine to drool over? -- Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism |
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David Nebenzahl wrote:
Who needs Playboy or Penthouse when one has a good woodworking magazine to drool over? A sad sign of age. Now, where are my glasses? -- Doug |
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Douglas Johnson wrote:
David Nebenzahl wrote: Who needs Playboy or Penthouse when one has a good woodworking magazine to drool over? A sad sign of age. Now, where are my glasses? Prior to reading this, I'd taken a slurp of red wine. I'm now viewing the monitor through rose tinted glasses, I think! :) |
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Mike Marlow wrote:
"Douglas Johnson" wrote in message ... David Nebenzahl wrote: Who needs Playboy or Penthouse when one has a good woodworking magazine to drool over? A sad sign of age. Now, where are my glasses? Over here - I have them. And I'm not looking at any damned woodworking magazine either! steward, the screen's got rosier! :) |
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David Nebenzahl writes:
On 8/26/2009 1:29 PM Brian Henderson spake thus: Who needs Playboy or Penthouse when one has a good woodworking magazine to drool over? I'm sorry, but no matter how old I get, a cool new tool will never replace a great pair of nipples. When they do, that's the day I take a nail gun to my brain pan. :| nb |
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Red Green wrote in
: So many of my thought he printed. They do need a reality show along those lines! The one where the victim, aka DIY'r, turns the wrench to losen the whatever and every pipe connected to it twists like a transmission tower that Godzilla blew his big bad Habanero breath on. There's a new one on DIY called "Renovation Realities". There's also "Dream House" that's kinda like that. Puckdropper -- "The potential difference between the top and bottom of a tree is the reason why all trees have to be grounded..." -- Bored Borg on rec.woodworking To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm |
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"Lisa BB." wrote in news:0025f6e8$0$25938
: Norm is sexy. ****! That means even I have a shot at being sexy to someone!! ..... Heeeeeey, you're not a guy or one of those "sh'im"s are ya? |
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On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:01:21 -0500, Red Green
wrote: "Lisa BB." wrote in news:0025f6e8$0$25938 : Norm is sexy. ****! That means even I have a shot at being sexy to someone!! Maybe to Harold. "If it ain't broke, don't lend it." Red Green |
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On 2009-08-29, krw wrote:
"If it ain't broke, don't lend it." Red Green Red Green was funny for about two and a half episodes. nb |
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krw wrote:
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:01:21 -0500, Red Green wrote: "Lisa BB." wrote in news:0025f6e8$0$25938 : Norm is sexy. ****! That means even I have a shot at being sexy to someone!! Maybe to Harold. "If it ain't broke, don't lend it." Red Green What was his other quote? 'If you can't be handsome, at least be handy', or words to that effect? -- aem sends... |
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On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 23:53:17 GMT, notbob wrote:
On 2009-08-29, krw wrote: "If it ain't broke, don't lend it." Red Green Red Green was funny for about two and a half episodes. SWMBO didn't think it funny that long. Just shows that some have no sense of humor. |
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notbob wrote:
On 2009-08-29, krw wrote: "If it ain't broke, don't lend it." Red Green Red Green was funny for about two and a half episodes. nb Over your head, eh? -- "Even if your wife is happy but you're unhappy, you're still happier than you'd be if you were happy and your wife was unhappy." - Red Green To reply, eat the taco. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/ |
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On 2009-08-30, Steve Turner wrote:
Over your head, eh? Yep. Deep stuff. Hee Haw was equally profound. nb |
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notbob wrote:
On 2009-08-30, Steve Turner wrote: Over your head, eh? Yep. Deep stuff. Hee Haw was equally profound. nb Yeah well, the percentage of time I sit down at the TV looking for something "deep" or "profound" is pretty close to never. I'm almost always trying to accomplish *something*, and time spent in front of the TV is time that's a-wasting. When I finally decide I have absolutely nothing better to do and all I desire is sit down, relax, and waste some serious time, mindless entertainment is what I seek and Red Green fits the bill quite nicely. There's nothing deep about it, and that's the way I like it. I quite enjoy Hee-Haw too, thank you very much. -- See Nad. See Nad go. Go Nad! To reply, eat the taco. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/ |
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On 2009-08-30, Steve Turner wrote:
the bill quite nicely. There's nothing deep about it, and that's the way I like it. I quite enjoy Hee-Haw too, thank you very much. Gee. I'm sorry . Don't cry. nb |
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Steve Turner wrote:
notbob wrote: On 2009-08-30, Steve Turner wrote: Over your head, eh? Yep. Deep stuff. Hee Haw was equally profound. nb Yeah well, the percentage of time I sit down at the TV looking for something "deep" or "profound" is pretty close to never. I'm almost always trying to accomplish *something*, and time spent in front of the TV is time that's a-wasting. When I finally decide I have absolutely nothing better to do and all I desire is sit down, relax, and waste some serious time, mindless entertainment is what I seek and Red Green fits the bill quite nicely. There's nothing deep about it, and that's the way I like it. I quite enjoy Hee-Haw too, thank you very much. How many rolls of duct tape do you have within arms reach? Mysterious Traveler |
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On 2009-08-30, Mysterious Traveler wrote:
How many rolls of duct tape do you have within arms reach? I hafta admit, I was impressed with the duct tape/inner tube arm chair. ;) nb |
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"notbob" wrote: I hafta admit, I was impressed with the duct tape/inner tube arm chair. ;) Are the construction methods approved by the American Duct Tape Counsel as practiced in Lake Wobegon? BTW, are you aware you can use duct tape to mow your grass? Lew |
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"aemeijers" wrote in message ... krw wrote: On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:01:21 -0500, Red Green wrote: "Lisa BB." wrote in news:0025f6e8$0$25938 : Norm is sexy. ****! That means even I have a shot at being sexy to someone!! Maybe to Harold. "If it ain't broke, don't lend it." Red Green What was his other quote? 'If you can't be handsome, at least be handy', or words to that effect? I women don't find you handsome they should at least find you handy. |
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"Leon" wrote in message If women don't find you handsome they should at least find you handy. And just maybe, if they find him handy, they'll realize he's good for other services too. :) |
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Leon wrote:
"aemeijers" wrote in message ... krw wrote: On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:01:21 -0500, Red Green wrote: "Lisa BB." wrote in news:0025f6e8$0$25938 : Norm is sexy. ****! That means even I have a shot at being sexy to someone!! Maybe to Harold. "If it ain't broke, don't lend it." Red Green What was his other quote? 'If you can't be handsome, at least be handy', or words to that effect? If women don't find you handsome they should at least find you handy. Thanks. that's it. Cute saying, but I never did find it to apply much in real life.... -- aem sends, alone as always... |
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On Aug 24, 8:09*am, "Leon" wrote:
"DGDevin" wrote in message m... notbob wrote: * I agree that the "This Old Mansion" thing is sometimes carried too far, but the companies supplying that gee-whiz technology help to pay for the show too. *And five minutes later Tommy is showing us how to install a garage door or sharpen a chisel--it ain't all big-bucks high-tech stuff. PLUS! * Tommy keeps us up to date on all the new Festool stuff! *golf clap* |
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On Aug 24, 1:41*pm, FrozenNorth
wrote: -MIKE- wrote: Pete C. wrote: DGDevin wrote: Many of us could handle framing or drywall or painting but would think twice about trying serious plumbing or wiring. I would much rather do framing, plumbing and wiring than drywall or painting. I'm certainly qualified and capable of all of those tasks, however drywall is bloody heavy and tedious to tape well, and painting is equally tedious. A good, detail oriented framer can make a 'waller's job much easier. Like anyone else, you have to deal with what you were left. But I never attempt drywall. It's easy to do a half-a$$ jog of it, even for a so-called pro. Doing a great job at finishing that stuff is a skill and an art that is maintained by doing it repetitively and taking pride in your work. I think *anyone* can get great at it, given a few weeks on the job, but I'll gladly pay the experts to do it. Amen, the only drywall I have ever done was approximately an 8' by 8' wall, i.e. two sheets. *I futzed over it for days even when i knew it was going to be mostly covered by kitchen cabinets and a tile backsplash. But it will look good, if someone ever takes the cabinets down. ;-) -- Froz... I suck at drywall. Sure it looks great when I am finally done, but I really don't have to hold the tolerances of a solid surface countertop. I'm in houses, where drywall crews are going at it, at least a couple of times a week and I clearly see the difference between the hacks and the pros. It's an art. |
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Robatoy wrote:
On Aug 24, 1:41 pm, FrozenNorth wrote: -MIKE- wrote: Pete C. wrote: DGDevin wrote: Many of us could handle framing or drywall or painting but would think twice about trying serious plumbing or wiring. I would much rather do framing, plumbing and wiring than drywall or painting. I'm certainly qualified and capable of all of those tasks, however drywall is bloody heavy and tedious to tape well, and painting is equally tedious. A good, detail oriented framer can make a 'waller's job much easier. Like anyone else, you have to deal with what you were left. But I never attempt drywall. It's easy to do a half-a$$ jog of it, even for a so-called pro. Doing a great job at finishing that stuff is a skill and an art that is maintained by doing it repetitively and taking pride in your work. I think *anyone* can get great at it, given a few weeks on the job, but I'll gladly pay the experts to do it. Amen, the only drywall I have ever done was approximately an 8' by 8' wall, i.e. two sheets. I futzed over it for days even when i knew it was going to be mostly covered by kitchen cabinets and a tile backsplash. But it will look good, if someone ever takes the cabinets down. ;-) -- Froz... I suck at drywall. Sure it looks great when I am finally done, but I really don't have to hold the tolerances of a solid surface countertop. I'm in houses, where drywall crews are going at it, at least a couple of times a week and I clearly see the difference between the hacks and the pros. It's an art. Agreed, but it would have been impossible to get a pro in for such a small job. I just had to suck it up, and go with it there, I have hired out for bigger jobs. -- Froz... |
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On Aug 30, 4:28*pm, FrozenNorth
wrote: Robatoy wrote: On Aug 24, 1:41 pm, FrozenNorth wrote: -MIKE- wrote: Pete C. wrote: DGDevin wrote: Many of us could handle framing or drywall or painting but would think twice about trying serious plumbing or wiring. I would much rather do framing, plumbing and wiring than drywall or painting. I'm certainly qualified and capable of all of those tasks, however drywall is bloody heavy and tedious to tape well, and painting is equally tedious. A good, detail oriented framer can make a 'waller's job much easier. Like anyone else, you have to deal with what you were left. But I never attempt drywall. It's easy to do a half-a$$ jog of it, even for a so-called pro. Doing a great job at finishing that stuff is a skill and an art that is maintained by doing it repetitively and taking pride in your work. I think *anyone* can get great at it, given a few weeks on the job, but I'll gladly pay the experts to do it. Amen, the only drywall I have ever done was approximately an 8' by 8' wall, i.e. two sheets. *I futzed over it for days even when i knew it was going to be mostly covered by kitchen cabinets and a tile backsplash. But it will look good, if someone ever takes the cabinets down. ;-) -- Froz... I suck at drywall. Sure it looks great when I am finally done, but I really don't have to hold the tolerances of a solid surface countertop. I'm in houses, where drywall crews are going at it, at least a couple of times a week and I clearly see the difference between the hacks and the pros. It's an art. Agreed, but it would have been impossible to get a pro in for such a small job. *I just had to suck it up, and go with it there, I have hired out for bigger jobs. -- Froz... Yup, the small jobs take just as much sometimes as jobs 3 x the size. You have to haul your gear, load up and clean up. Just like the big jobs. In my case, it doesn't matter if I glue up 7 feet or 11 feet of edging on a countertop. It's a 12-foot sheet regardless. And, in terms of time, I can fabricate a 12-foot job in the same time as a 4-foot (give or take a few extra feet of sanding).. the 4-foot job comes with a customer who can't get her/his head around the price... the 12-foot customer 'gets it' much sooner. Small jobs mostly suck unless I can use a remnant which makes up for the PITA. |
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Robatoy wrote:
On Aug 30, 4:28 pm, FrozenNorth wrote: Robatoy wrote: On Aug 24, 1:41 pm, FrozenNorth wrote: -MIKE- wrote: Pete C. wrote: DGDevin wrote: Many of us could handle framing or drywall or painting but would think twice about trying serious plumbing or wiring. I would much rather do framing, plumbing and wiring than drywall or painting. I'm certainly qualified and capable of all of those tasks, however drywall is bloody heavy and tedious to tape well, and painting is equally tedious. A good, detail oriented framer can make a 'waller's job much easier. Like anyone else, you have to deal with what you were left. But I never attempt drywall. It's easy to do a half-a$$ jog of it, even for a so-called pro. Doing a great job at finishing that stuff is a skill and an art that is maintained by doing it repetitively and taking pride in your work. I think *anyone* can get great at it, given a few weeks on the job, but I'll gladly pay the experts to do it. Amen, the only drywall I have ever done was approximately an 8' by 8' wall, i.e. two sheets. I futzed over it for days even when i knew it was going to be mostly covered by kitchen cabinets and a tile backsplash. But it will look good, if someone ever takes the cabinets down. ;-) -- Froz... I suck at drywall. Sure it looks great when I am finally done, but I really don't have to hold the tolerances of a solid surface countertop. I'm in houses, where drywall crews are going at it, at least a couple of times a week and I clearly see the difference between the hacks and the pros. It's an art. Agreed, but it would have been impossible to get a pro in for such a small job. I just had to suck it up, and go with it there, I have hired out for bigger jobs. -- Froz... Yup, the small jobs take just as much sometimes as jobs 3 x the size. You have to haul your gear, load up and clean up. Just like the big jobs. In my case, it doesn't matter if I glue up 7 feet or 11 feet of edging on a countertop. It's a 12-foot sheet regardless. And, in terms of time, I can fabricate a 12-foot job in the same time as a 4-foot (give or take a few extra feet of sanding).. the 4-foot job comes with a customer who can't get her/his head around the price... the 12-foot customer 'gets it' much sooner. Small jobs mostly suck unless I can use a remnant which makes up for the PITA. Chuckle. That is one lesson my father the house designer always tries to impart to his customers- they get the most bang for the buck when they design the house around standard material sizes. He likes to design houses where the floor decking and roof decking use full and half sheets, the joists never need trimming, the foundation only uses full blocks, etc. Wasted materials annoy him. -- aem sends... |
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On Aug 30, 6:30*pm, aemeijers wrote:
Chuckle. That is one lesson my father the house designer always tries to impart to his customers- they get the most bang for the buck when they design the house around standard material sizes. He likes to design houses where the floor decking and roof decking use full and half sheets, the joists never need trimming, the foundation only uses full blocks, etc. Wasted materials annoy him. My husband has a friend who's having some space bumped out of her 2nd floor--the standard giant shed dormer kind of thing. The original plan was to have the side wall come out to the existing wall, which would have carried the load nicely. She has some other friend who's an architect, who said that the dormer would look better smaller, so now the builder has to transfer the load a couple feet out to the existing wall. The net addition is about 15% smaller than the original plan, and she was surprised that the quote didn't come in at 15% less. She's lucky it isn't more. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:41:24 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote: On Aug 30, 6:30*pm, aemeijers wrote: Chuckle. That is one lesson my father the house designer always tries to impart to his customers- they get the most bang for the buck when they design the house around standard material sizes. He likes to design houses where the floor decking and roof decking use full and half sheets, the joists never need trimming, the foundation only uses full blocks, etc. Wasted materials annoy him. My husband has a friend who's having some space bumped out of her 2nd floor--the standard giant shed dormer kind of thing. The original plan was to have the side wall come out to the existing wall, which would have carried the load nicely. She has some other friend who's an architect, who said that the dormer would look better smaller, so now the builder has to transfer the load a couple feet out to the existing wall. The net addition is about 15% smaller than the original plan, and she was surprised that the quote didn't come in at 15% less. She's lucky it isn't more. IMO, the architect is right. Shed dormers that go all the way to the outside wall look dumb. My last house was designed like that, but at least it was in the back. Whether the "wasted" space is worth the looks is a matter of opinion. If appearances didn't matter houses would be windowless cubes. |
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Douglas Johnson wrote in
: David Nebenzahl wrote: Who needs Playboy or Penthouse when one has a good woodworking magazine to drool over? A sad sign of age. Now, where are my glasses? -- Doug A sad sign of age. FatMax tapes and fat asses both are OK. |
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On Aug 31, 10:42*pm, samson wrote:
In article m, says... Well, I don't personally hate him. Don't even know the guy. But that's the title of the latest piece by one of my favorite columnists in the /Berkeley Daily Planet/, Matt Cantor, local owner of a home-inspection business who writes a weekly column on home repair and maintenance. Here's a sample: * *I do genuinely hate these specific shows: "Hometime," "This Old House" * *and "The New Yankee Workshop." I hate them for one simple reason: they * *make most people feel like idiots. Even if a show only demonstrates how * *to build a basic chest of drawers, it does a lousy job of preparing the * *average Joe or Joan for the task. In the end, the show provides nothing * *more than boutique shopping and showing off. I suppose that would be a * *lot of fun if you only want to learn that you?as a homeowner or stock * *broker or bank clerk?know nothing about houses or furniture or nails and * *that you?ll never stand a chance of doing more than hanging a picture on * *the wall. * *On shows like these, the jobs are made to look so darned easy. All the * *materials are waiting for assembly and nothing is spoiled, the wrong * *type or missing. The air gun never misfires and the compressor never * *needs to be drained (yes, you have to drain compressors daily because * *they fill up with water and will rust out if you don?t do so). That?s * *another thing I hate: in actuality, there are many small details that * *fill a contractor?s day (or your day when you play contractor) but * *they?re neatly edited out, just as they are in a cooking show. Just pop * *the raw one in the oven and Voila, the new freshly baked one comes right * *out of the other oven. (See article at http://berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue.../article/33531) It sounds like your favorite columnist is hurting for things to write about. Does he seriously want Norm to stop the show to drain the compressor? Sincerely, Bradley Nailer Norm could quickly read off a laundry list, some of the items being: Wear nitrile gloves when using yukkie stuff. Drain your compressor. Safety glasses often aren't enough. Wear Goggles. Do NOT use a hair-dryer in the bath tub. |
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"Robatoy" wrote in message Norm could quickly read off a laundry list, some of the items being: Or he could suggest a section to view on his website that contains safety suggestions and run of the mill stuff that users should view on occasion. Stuff that would eat up valuable TV time if he went through it every time on his show. |
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On Aug 31, 8:03*pm, krw wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:41:24 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote: On Aug 30, 6:30*pm, aemeijers wrote: Chuckle. That is one lesson my father the house designer always tries to impart to his customers- they get the most bang for the buck when they design the house around standard material sizes. He likes to design houses where the floor decking and roof decking use full and half sheets, the joists never need trimming, the foundation only uses full blocks, etc. Wasted materials annoy him. My husband has a friend who's having some space bumped out of her 2nd floor--the standard giant shed dormer kind of thing. *The original plan was to have the side wall come out to the existing wall, which would have carried the load nicely. *She has some other friend who's an architect, who said that the dormer would look better smaller, so now the builder has to transfer the load a couple feet out to the existing wall. *The net addition is about 15% smaller than the original plan, and she was surprised that the quote didn't come in at 15% less. *She's lucky it isn't more. IMO, the architect is right. *Shed dormers that go all the way to the outside wall look dumb. *My last house was designed like that, but at least it was in the back. *Whether the "wasted" space is worth the looks is a matter of opinion. *If appearances didn't matter houses would be windowless cubes.- It was the back of the house in a yard where you couldn't get far enough from the house to really see it. I'd have done what the builder first proposed. The architect has also made it more difficult/expensive to insulate. Luckily, the builder seems like a stand-up guy, so he'll probably do it right. Relating back to the original topic, while I can see why one could dislike NYW and TOH, one of my favorite TV renovation shows is Holmes on Homes. The guy is capable of a mighty, righteous anger. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 07:41:16 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote: On Aug 31, 8:03*pm, krw wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:41:24 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote: On Aug 30, 6:30*pm, aemeijers wrote: Chuckle. That is one lesson my father the house designer always tries to impart to his customers- they get the most bang for the buck when they design the house around standard material sizes. He likes to design houses where the floor decking and roof decking use full and half sheets, the joists never need trimming, the foundation only uses full blocks, etc. Wasted materials annoy him. My husband has a friend who's having some space bumped out of her 2nd floor--the standard giant shed dormer kind of thing. *The original plan was to have the side wall come out to the existing wall, which would have carried the load nicely. *She has some other friend who's an architect, who said that the dormer would look better smaller, so now the builder has to transfer the load a couple feet out to the existing wall. *The net addition is about 15% smaller than the original plan, and she was surprised that the quote didn't come in at 15% less. *She's lucky it isn't more. IMO, the architect is right. *Shed dormers that go all the way to the outside wall look dumb. *My last house was designed like that, but at least it was in the back. *Whether the "wasted" space is worth the looks is a matter of opinion. *If appearances didn't matter houses would be windowless cubes.- It was the back of the house in a yard where you couldn't get far enough from the house to really see it. As was mine. It still looked dumb. I'd have done what the builder first proposed. That's you. As I said, to each his own. But, there is *good* reason to do what the architect suggested. Full shed dormers over the main wall look *dumb*. The architect has also made it more difficult/expensive to insulate. Luckily, the builder seems like a stand-up guy, so he'll probably do it right. The architect did his job so now it's up to the builder to do his. If he didn't think he could do it (and right) he had no business taking the job. Relating back to the original topic, while I can see why one could dislike NYW and TOH, one of my favorite TV renovation shows is Holmes on Homes. The guy is capable of a mighty, righteous anger. |
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