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Too_Many_Tools writes:

I am looking for ideas and examples (with links hopefully) to how
others include a workshop in both their RV and sailboats.


I admire anyone who can sail or work metal. If anyone is able to do both
at the same time, then I am in awe.


My 1945 South Bend 10L is a special shipboard model built for the Navy. The
only thing special about it is that it has (or had) two motors -- one 110
Vac, single phase, and the other DC. You could flip the primary belt from
one to the other to change motors. The DC motor was removed before I got it,
possibly before it was sold surplus, so I never got to see it. The machine
also has a base that's heavier than anything in the contemporaneous South
Bend catalogs, but that may have been just a general military issue item
rather than anything special for shipboard use.

Anyway, I could see running this thing on board a big carrier or battleship,
but I wonder what it was like trying to get a uniform finish while aboard a
destroyer in a rough sea. d8-)

Maybe TMT could make room for one of these...

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Leon wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
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What kind of RV? I have had a large and well equipped truck camper for
a
few years and I still love it. Of course it has a lot less issues than
a
camper / RV with running gear will have.


Full blown dedicated RV's, Full standing up room through out the living
room, kitchen, bedroom, bathroom, and laundry and cab area.


FYI, a truck camper is a full blown dedicated RV, but due to the lack of
running gear it has a lot less maintenance issues. My truck camper has a
bathroom with shower, kitchen with stove / oven, microwave, double basin
sink, A/C, furnace, refrigerator, etc. All it lacks is standup headroom
in the bed area.



When I think truck camper, I think the shell that sets on top of the bed
rails that is no taller than the cab top and simply lets you lay down
protected from the elements in the bed of the truck.
I am familiar with what you have, I guess when I commented full blown RV I
really should have said "dedicated" RV and or Motor Home.


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Leon wrote:
"Pete C." wrote in message
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Leon wrote:
"Pete C." wrote in message
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What kind of RV? I have had a large and well equipped truck camper for
a
few years and I still love it. Of course it has a lot less issues than
a
camper / RV with running gear will have.
Full blown dedicated RV's, Full standing up room through out the living
room, kitchen, bedroom, bathroom, and laundry and cab area.

FYI, a truck camper is a full blown dedicated RV, but due to the lack of
running gear it has a lot less maintenance issues. My truck camper has a
bathroom with shower, kitchen with stove / oven, microwave, double basin
sink, A/C, furnace, refrigerator, etc. All it lacks is standup headroom
in the bed area.



When I think truck camper, I think the shell that sets on top of the bed
rails that is no taller than the cab top and simply lets you lay down
protected from the elements in the bed of the truck.


That'd be a "Canopy" or "Cap".

I am familiar with what you have, I guess when I commented full blown RV I
really should have said "dedicated" RV and or Motor Home.


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Leon wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
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Leon wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
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What kind of RV? I have had a large and well equipped truck camper for
a
few years and I still love it. Of course it has a lot less issues than
a
camper / RV with running gear will have.

Full blown dedicated RV's, Full standing up room through out the living
room, kitchen, bedroom, bathroom, and laundry and cab area.


FYI, a truck camper is a full blown dedicated RV, but due to the lack of
running gear it has a lot less maintenance issues. My truck camper has a
bathroom with shower, kitchen with stove / oven, microwave, double basin
sink, A/C, furnace, refrigerator, etc. All it lacks is standup headroom
in the bed area.


When I think truck camper, I think the shell that sets on top of the bed
rails that is no taller than the cab top and simply lets you lay down
protected from the elements in the bed of the truck.


I usually hear those referred to as "truck cap" or "camper shell".

I am familiar with what you have, I guess when I commented full blown RV I
really should have said "dedicated" RV and or Motor Home.


I particularly like the truck camper as it is as capable as the truck
you put it on i.e. 4x4, lets you tow whatever else you need and you can
still offload it at a campsite to use the truck separately. Of course,
not having any running gear makes maint. simpler, and when you wear out
a truck, you just get a new one. With a crew cab pickup and a camper
with extended cab-over you get plenty of bed space too. On my 3500
dually, I can carry the camper and tow my 10,000# cargo trailer with
ease.
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 08:39:53 -0700, Doug Winterburn
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Leon wrote:
"Pete C." wrote in message
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Leon wrote:
"Pete C." wrote in message
ster.com...

What kind of RV? I have had a large and well equipped truck camper for
a
few years and I still love it. Of course it has a lot less issues than
a
camper / RV with running gear will have.
Full blown dedicated RV's, Full standing up room through out the living
room, kitchen, bedroom, bathroom, and laundry and cab area.
FYI, a truck camper is a full blown dedicated RV, but due to the lack of
running gear it has a lot less maintenance issues. My truck camper has a
bathroom with shower, kitchen with stove / oven, microwave, double basin
sink, A/C, furnace, refrigerator, etc. All it lacks is standup headroom
in the bed area.



When I think truck camper, I think the shell that sets on top of the bed
rails that is no taller than the cab top and simply lets you lay down
protected from the elements in the bed of the truck.


That'd be a "Canopy" or "Cap".


Or "shell" as commonly used in the western states.

I am familiar with what you have, I guess when I commented full blown RV I
really should have said "dedicated" RV and or Motor Home.



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nor old enough to have the patience to teach one."


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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 02:47:04 -0500, "J. Clarke"
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RAM³ wrote:
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"RAM³" wrote in message
m...

Sailboats are a whole 'nother world: far more limited space, far
more limited weight-carrying capability, a virtual absence of
electricity, and the simple fact that sailboats travel on their
sides...


If it's on it's side, it's either broken or at the hand of a
non-sailor.

Ed



Nope!

Only motorsailers under power and sailboats with furled sails will
be
upright.

Otherwise the wind pressure against the sails cause the mast(s) to
lever the boat towards the downwind side.

About the only time a sailboat can remain upright while under
weigh
is on a downwind reach - usually with the sails at right angles to
the wind and the skipper praying that the wind doesn't suddenly
increase sharply. grin

FWIW [metal content] that wind-pressure-lever force is what
prompted
the invention of the Lead Keel to counterbalance that force...

Heeled a bit is not "on its side" except to a lubber.


Define 'heeled"

Water coming in the scuppers...is ...on its side.


Depends on how much freeboard it has.


And the strength + direction of the wind in relationship to sail area and
the course of the boat. grin
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When I think truck camper, I think the shell that sets on top of the bed
rails that is no taller than the cab top and simply lets you lay down
protected from the elements in the bed of the truck.


That'd be a "Canopy" or "Cap".

I am familiar with what you have, I guess when I commented full blown RV
I
really should have said "dedicated" RV and or Motor Home.




In Texas as well as other places they are known as campers.

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RAM³ wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 02:47:04 -0500, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

RAM³ wrote:
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"RAM³" wrote in message
m...

Sailboats are a whole 'nother world: far more limited space,
far
more limited weight-carrying capability, a virtual absence of
electricity, and the simple fact that sailboats travel on
their
sides...


If it's on it's side, it's either broken or at the hand of a
non-sailor.

Ed



Nope!

Only motorsailers under power and sailboats with furled sails
will
be
upright.

Otherwise the wind pressure against the sails cause the mast(s)
to
lever the boat towards the downwind side.

About the only time a sailboat can remain upright while under
weigh
is on a downwind reach - usually with the sails at right angles
to
the wind and the skipper praying that the wind doesn't suddenly
increase sharply. grin

FWIW [metal content] that wind-pressure-lever force is what
prompted
the invention of the Lead Keel to counterbalance that force...

Heeled a bit is not "on its side" except to a lubber.


Define 'heeled"

Water coming in the scuppers...is ...on its side.


Depends on how much freeboard it has.


And the strength + direction of the wind in relationship to sail
area
and the course of the boat. grin


High freeboard and narrow beam means heeled way over to get water into
the scuppers. Low freeboard and broad beam means it comes in at a
much lower angle of heel.

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J. Clarke wrote:
RAM³ wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 02:47:04 -0500, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

RAM³ wrote:
"Ed Edelenbos" wrote in
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"RAM³" wrote in message
m...
Sailboats are a whole 'nother world: far more limited space,
far
more limited weight-carrying capability, a virtual absence of
electricity, and the simple fact that sailboats travel on
their
sides...

If it's on it's side, it's either broken or at the hand of a
non-sailor.

Ed


Nope!

Only motorsailers under power and sailboats with furled sails
will
be
upright.

Otherwise the wind pressure against the sails cause the mast(s)
to
lever the boat towards the downwind side.

About the only time a sailboat can remain upright while under
weigh
is on a downwind reach - usually with the sails at right angles
to
the wind and the skipper praying that the wind doesn't suddenly
increase sharply. grin

FWIW [metal content] that wind-pressure-lever force is what
prompted
the invention of the Lead Keel to counterbalance that force...
Heeled a bit is not "on its side" except to a lubber.

Define 'heeled"

Water coming in the scuppers...is ...on its side.
Depends on how much freeboard it has.

And the strength + direction of the wind in relationship to sail
area
and the course of the boat. grin


High freeboard and narrow beam means heeled way over to get water into
the scuppers. Low freeboard and broad beam means it comes in at a
much lower angle of heel.



Then you had better tack the keel too!

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"Pete C." wrote in message
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Leon wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
ster.com...


What kind of RV? I have had a large and well equipped truck camper for
a
few years and I still love it. Of course it has a lot less issues than
a
camper / RV with running gear will have.

Full blown dedicated RV's, Full standing up room through out the living
room, kitchen, bedroom, bathroom, and laundry and cab area.


FYI, a truck camper is a full blown dedicated RV, but due to the lack of
running gear it has a lot less maintenance issues. My truck camper has a
bathroom with shower, kitchen with stove / oven, microwave, double basin
sink, A/C, furnace, refrigerator, etc. All it lacks is standup headroom
in the bed area.



When I think truck camper, I think the shell that sets on top of the bed
rails that is no taller than the cab top and simply lets you lay down
protected from the elements in the bed of the truck.
I am familiar with what you have, I guess when I commented full blown RV I
really should have said "dedicated" RV and or Motor Home.



Don't know about sailboat workshops, but might not be much call for such.
As to RV's there are a couple of full time RVers that have a shop in a
trailer. Set up a toy hauler trailer as a shop and if small enough shop and
small Toad car could fit inside also.




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On Feb 6, 6:56*pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
I am looking for ideas and examples (with links hopefully) to how
others include a workshop in both their RV and sailboats.

General metalworking and woodworking as the goals.

The examples can be of either type or a combination of both.

Also discussions of having a shop (tools and stock storage) within a
small space and alternative power sources come to mind.

Thanks

TMT


The Workshop Book by Scott Landis has a chapter on small/portable
shops. A few of RVs. Not sure about boats. And a story or two about
people who have tiny shops at home and basically use hand tools. Or
when traveling to jobs use hand tools.
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