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The original package for my dado blades is finally dead.
Are there boxes, something that can be made in the shop to store all of the blades and chippers. Are there plans, or am I over complicating the problem. |
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"Keith nuttle" wrote in message The original package for my dado blades is finally dead. Are there boxes, something that can be made in the shop to store all of the blades and chippers. Depends. Do your dado blades reside in the workshop or do they get to go travelling places? |
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Keith nuttle wrote:
The original package for my dado blades is finally dead. Are there boxes, something that can be made in the shop to store all of the blades and chippers. Are there plans, or am I over complicating the problem. My Dado King came with a case. To store my other set, I just ran a 5/8" carriage bolt through a 10x10 piece of scrap plywood, and topped it off with a washer and wing nut. |
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"Keith nuttle" wrote in message ... The original package for my dado blades is finally dead. Are there boxes, something that can be made in the shop to store all of the blades and chippers. Absolutely! Are there plans, or am I over complicating the problem. Probably yes to both questions. Take a look at what Forrest uses for their Dado King dado blades. You can probably make something similar. There is no reason to keep the blades separated as they are not separate while spinning at 100 mph, something to consider when making a case. |
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These folks carry a case for blades:
http://www.woodcraft.com/product.asp...&FamilyID=4233 Keith nuttle wrote: The original package for my dado blades is finally dead. Are there boxes, something that can be made in the shop to store all of the blades and chippers. Are there plans, or am I over complicating the problem. |
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Pat Barber wrote:
These folks carry a case for blades: http://www.woodcraft.com/product.asp...&FamilyID=4233 If not the same item, that's very close to the one that Forrest ships their dadoes in. But if one had scrap plywood about and a carriage bolt then one can make one that is as good for pretty much nothing. Just stack ply to the thickness you need, cut out a circle larger than the blade diameter, glue the stack to a backer, saw the whole thing to whatever shape you want, put a carriage bolt through the backer, bolt the blades onto it, and optionally put a cover piece on. Keith nuttle wrote: The original package for my dado blades is finally dead. Are there boxes, something that can be made in the shop to store all of the blades and chippers. Are there plans, or am I over complicating the problem. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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"Leon" wrote:
There is no reason to keep the blades separated as they are not separate while spinning at 100 mph, something to consider when making a case. Can't comment on Forrest; however, the Freud set DEFINITELY needs to keep the chippers and outside blades separated. I'd make some spacer washers from "door skin" plywood, the balance of the case from 3 layers of 3/8 ply. That design will give you some router practice cutting inside circles.grin Lew |
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J. Clarke wrote:
Pat Barber wrote: These folks carry a case for blades: http://www.woodcraft.com/product.asp...&FamilyID=4233 If not the same item, that's very close to the one that Forrest ships their dadoes in. But if one had scrap plywood about and a carriage bolt then one can make one that is as good for pretty much nothing. Just stack ply to the thickness you need, cut out a circle larger than the blade diameter, glue the stack to a backer, saw the whole thing to whatever shape you want, put a carriage bolt through the backer, bolt the blades onto it, and optionally put a cover piece on. Keith nuttle wrote: The original package for my dado blades is finally dead. Are there boxes, something that can be made in the shop to store all of the blades and chippers. Are there plans, or am I over complicating the problem. I like all of the ideas, but was looking for something unique. |
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"Keith nuttle" wrote:
I like all of the ideas, but was looking for something unique. Define "Unique" as it applies to this project. Lew |
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Keith nuttle wrote:
Are there plans, or am I over complicating the problem. I like all of the ideas, but was looking for something unique. For a couple of ideas see: http://www.woodmagazine.com/woodwork...lade-selector/ http://lumberjocks.com/projects/2930 -- Jack Novak Buffalo, NY - USA |
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On Dec 30, 3:44 pm, B A R R Y wrote:
Keith nuttle wrote: The original package for my dado blades is finally dead. Are there boxes, something that can be made in the shop to store all of the blades and chippers. Are there plans, or am I over complicating the problem. My Dado King came with a case. To store my other set, I just ran a 5/8" carriage bolt through a 10x10 piece of scrap plywood, and topped it off with a washer and wing nut. Use coffee can lids between blades to keep the teeth from chipping. |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote: There is no reason to keep the blades separated as they are not separate while spinning at 100 mph, something to consider when making a case. Can't comment on Forrest; however, the Freud set DEFINITELY needs to keep the chippers and outside blades separated. Reeeeely? How do those things stack up on your arbor if they have to be seperated? |
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"Leon" wrote in message Can't comment on Forrest; however, the Freud set DEFINITELY needs to keep the chippers and outside blades separated. Reeeeely? How do those things stack up on your arbor if they have to be seperated? I've got a Freud set. They're nested in certain positions on the arbour and in the carrier. The carbide on the outer blades is wider than the outer blades themselves which contributes to a cleaner cut. |
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Nova wrote:
Keith nuttle wrote: Are there plans, or am I over complicating the problem. I like all of the ideas, but was looking for something unique. For a couple of ideas see: http://www.woodmagazine.com/woodwork...lade-selector/ http://lumberjocks.com/projects/2930 That is what I was looking for, I am retired with a lot of time on my hands. That is what I meant by unique. |
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"Leon" wrote:
Reeeeely? How do those things stack up on your arbor if they have to be seperated? The base diameter of each piece is the width that defines the chipper, blade, etc. The carbide tooth is perhaps 1/16-3/32 wider than the base diameter thickness which requires the teeth to be staggered into spaces on adjacent cutters which is the means used to get a flat bottom dado. Lew |
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"Keith nuttle" wrote:
That is what I was looking for, I am retired with a lot of time on my hands. That is what I meant by unique. How about an octagonal box with a lift of cover held in position on the base with over center suit case latches? Could always add a clown face clock image on the cover if you want to disguise things a little bit and create a whole new scroll saw inlay project.grin How much time you got, I'm just getting started?grin Lew |
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I had to buy a new set - and I chose carefully. The ply is in metric
and has odd dimensions. Be sure you measure and check your set. Glad a job I got paid for a new set at the time. Martin Upscale wrote: "Leon" wrote in message Can't comment on Forrest; however, the Freud set DEFINITELY needs to keep the chippers and outside blades separated. Reeeeely? How do those things stack up on your arbor if they have to be seperated? I've got a Freud set. They're nested in certain positions on the arbour and in the carrier. The carbide on the outer blades is wider than the outer blades themselves which contributes to a cleaner cut. |
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"Upscale" wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote in message Can't comment on Forrest; however, the Freud set DEFINITELY needs to keep the chippers and outside blades separated. Reeeeely? How do those things stack up on your arbor if they have to be seperated? I've got a Freud set. They're nested in certain positions on the arbour and in the carrier. The carbide on the outer blades is wider than the outer blades themselves which contributes to a cleaner cut. The Forrest and most any outer set has carbide wider than the body of the blade. If you take the same care to store them away as you do as when you mount them on the arbor there should be no problem with storage. |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote: Reeeeely? How do those things stack up on your arbor if they have to be seperated? The base diameter of each piece is the width that defines the chipper, blade, etc. The carbide tooth is perhaps 1/16-3/32 wider than the base diameter thickness which requires the teeth to be staggered into spaces on adjacent cutters which is the means used to get a flat bottom dado. Lew Correct, the Forrest dado set is that way also. Still the Forrest set is all stored on a bolt. If you store them the same way you stack them on the arbor there will be no problem. |
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Leon is making a good point. they are made to lay against each other.
You can go to great lengths to protect them or just store them carefully so the cutting edges don't hit each other. Mike M On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:25:41 -0600, "Leon" wrote: "Lew Hodgett" wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote: There is no reason to keep the blades separated as they are not separate while spinning at 100 mph, something to consider when making a case. Can't comment on Forrest; however, the Freud set DEFINITELY needs to keep the chippers and outside blades separated. Reeeeely? How do those things stack up on your arbor if they have to be seperated? |
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"Leon" wrote:
Correct, the Forrest dado set is that way also. Still the Forrest set is all stored on a bolt. If you store them the same way you stack them on the arbor there will be no problem. Freud provides spacers. Since it costs money to provide them, they evidently think they are necessary. Lew |
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Nova wrote:
Keith nuttle wrote: Are there plans, or am I over complicating the problem. I like all of the ideas, but was looking for something unique. For a couple of ideas see: http://www.woodmagazine.com/woodwork...lade-selector/ http://lumberjocks.com/projects/2930 Depends upon whether you have time or money. The Woodcraft storage system referenced earlier, at $30 is cheap when you take time into account. OTOH, if you have lots of time and some scrap pieces, then it makes more sense to make something like those referenced above. (At various times in my life, I've been in both situations [not simultaneously]) -- If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough |
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"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote in message I had to buy a new set - and I chose carefully. The ply is in metric and has odd dimensions. Be sure you measure and check your set. Glad a job I got paid for a new set at the time. Also advisable is a set of plastic shims. Lee Valley sells a set that has slots cut in them so the arbour nut doesn't have to be completely removed to add or resize a shim. http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...080,51225&ap=1 |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message Freud provides spacers. Spacers that come with the blades? Hmmm, the set I bought this past summer didn't include shims. |
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"Upscale" wrote:
Spacers that come with the blades? Hmmm, the set I bought this past summer didn't include shims. Oranges and apples. "Shims" are made from cardboard and are used to get an exact width dado. "Spacers" are a clear plastic circles that interlock with the blade and/or chipper to insure that the carbide teeth do not come in contact with metal. Lew |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message "Shims" are made from cardboard and are used to get an exact width dado. "Spacers" are a clear plastic circles that interlock with the blade and/or chipper to insure that the carbide teeth do not come in contact with metal. Ok then, I've learned something new. In any event, I didn't receive either. As far as what I was recommending from Lee Valley, I had shims on my mind. |
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Keith nuttle wrote:
But if one had scrap plywood about and a carriage bolt then one can make one that is as good for pretty much nothing. Just stack ply to the thickness you need, cut out a circle larger than the blade diameter, glue the stack to a backer, saw the whole thing to whatever shape you want, put a carriage bolt through the backer, bolt the blades onto it, and optionally put a cover piece on. Keith nuttle wrote: I like all of the ideas, but was looking for something unique. Adding to Johns comment, take a 1/2" Plywood and cut it 1-2" bigger than your dado set, say 10"x10" Trace a circle in the middle the size of your blades, tracing around the gullets of the blade so the saws will snuggle in nicely. Next lay 3 chippers spread evenly over the 10x10 and trace the chippers, some (most) of the tracing will overlap the circle. Use a jig saw to cut out all the tracings so when finished the blades and chippers will fit snuggly in there respective cut outs. Next, cut out a 10x10 hunk of 1/4 Plywood for a backer and glue the two pieces together. Now lay in 3 chippers in the chipper slots, the middle chipper should be the thin chipper, then put in one blade, then two chippers in the outside chipper slots on top of the blade then the other blade on top of those 2 chippers. This will keep the chippers from touching each other, Cut another 10x10 1/4" ply for the lid, put a dowel pin in one corner of the cover so it can rotate off the face and figure a way to lock it in place, another pin perhaps. -- Jack Using FREE News Server: http://Motzarella.org http://jbstein.com |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote: Correct, the Forrest dado set is that way also. Still the Forrest set is all stored on a bolt. If you store them the same way you stack them on the arbor there will be no problem. Freud provides spacers. Since it costs money to provide them, they evidently think they are necessary. Lew You have a point however the OP is looking for ideas of how to build a storage container. While Freud does indeed provide a nice storage container IMHO it would not protect the blades during shipping "with out" the spacers. Freud's method of storage requires the spacers. The Forrest method uses a bolt and nut to securely hold every thing in place during shipping and during normal storage. If the Op chooses to loosely stack the blades in a custom fitted depression in the storage container similar to the Freud storage container I would also suggest using the protective spacers. Because I did mention looking at the Forrest Dado King Storage container for an idea, the use of spacers would not be necessary with most any brand dado set. |
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Upscale wrote:
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message "Shims" are made from cardboard and are used to get an exact width dado. "Spacers" are a clear plastic circles that interlock with the blade and/or chipper to insure that the carbide teeth do not come in contact with metal. Ok then, I've learned something new. In any event, I didn't receive either. As far as what I was recommending from Lee Valley, I had shims on my mind. My CMT set came with a set of plastic shims in various thicknesses. They've held up well for the past 12 years. -- If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough |
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Leon wrote:
The Forrest method uses a bolt and nut to securely hold every thing in place during shipping and during normal storage. Forrest puts the chippers on one side of the case and the blades on the other. |
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On Dec 30, 1:08*pm, Keith nuttle wrote:
The original package for my dado blades is finally dead. Are there boxes, something that can be made in the shop to store all of the blades and chippers. Are there plans, or am I over complicating the problem. This one's unique. Mind the word-wrap. http://cid-dbdf80d72cc4b008.skydrive...rkshop?lc=1033 Tom |
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"Upscale" wrote:
Ok then, I've learned something new. In any event, I didn't receive either. As far as what I was recommending from Lee Valley, I had shims on my mind. Go to a party supply place and get a package of foam plates, about 6" dia, and you have all the "spacers" you will ever need. Lew |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message Go to a party supply place and get a package of foam plates, about 6" dia, and you have all the "spacers" you will ever need. I'm not sure I need them Lew. The red plastic open faced case my stacked dado set came in didn't have spacers of any kind. Yes, the blades and chippers were spaced appropriately so the carbide tips didn't touch, but they remained where they were placed if the plastic nut hold everything in place was tightened even a little. And, when the set was on the tablesaw arbour, again I placed everything so no tips touched and they remained there when the arbour nut was tightened. |
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"tom" wrote This one's unique. Mind the word-wrap. http://cid-dbdf80d72cc4b008.skydrive...rkshop?lc=1033 Tom ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Classy!! |
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"B A R R Y" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: The Forrest method uses a bolt and nut to securely hold every thing in place during shipping and during normal storage. Forrest puts the chippers on one side of the case and the blades on the other. Yeah, that is more for balance than for protection. The case tips more easily with all blades on the same side. DAMHIKT ;~) |
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Keith nuttle wrote:
Are there plans, or am I over complicating the problem. You might be making a hard problem out of an easy one. I've posted a try at a plan (of sorts) on alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/ |
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On Dec 30, 9:25 pm, "Leon" wrote:
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote: There is no reason to keep the blades separated as they are not separate while spinning at 100 mph, something to consider when making a case. Can't comment on Forrest; however, the Freud set DEFINITELY needs to keep the chippers and outside blades separated. Reeeeely? How do those things stack up on your arbor if they have to be seperated? Set. |
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