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What is it? Set 264
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1497. Framing hammer
1498. tubing or metal rod bender. the threads are for adding extensions to the handles for leverage. Rob H. wrote: I plan to go back to the usual schedule next week: http://55tools.blogspot.com/ Rob |
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What is it? Set 264
Rob H. wrote:
I plan to go back to the usual schedule next week: http://55tools.blogspot.com/ Rob 1500: The casting looks as if it could have been a fragmentation sleeve for an early stick grenade. The purpose may have been to use the head of a grenade as a booby trap. The paddle would have been to secure the grenade so a trip line would work. A booby trap could reveal somebody sneaking up on your trench or kill an attacker who jumped into a crater. |
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What is it? Set 264
1497. Tool for 'tweaking' 2x4's to align them. Combined with various hammers,
nail pullers, etc. -- MacD |
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What is it? Set 264
On 2008-12-26, Rob H. wrote:
I plan to go back to the usual schedule next week: http://55tools.blogspot.com/ Posting in rec.crafts.metalworking as always. 1495) Steel rule holders, designed to hold the rule perfectly vertical relative to the surface plate on which it is resting. The surface plate is either cast iron or granite, formed to a particularly flat surface. Depending on grade, the surface may be flat within one micro-inch. This particular tool is used for setting a surface gauge (scriber which slides on the surface plate for layout work.) You can adjust the starting point of the scale to a gauge block or a stack thereof to define the starting point. The workpiece is coated with a layout dye, usually blue or red depending on the metal involved (selection for best contrast), or for cast iron, a white coating is used. The surface gauge is set to height using the scale in the stand as shown, or one of several other tools which include the scale and a vernier as part of the device. The person who would use this is a machinist doing layout work prior to machining a workpiece. All of the examples appear to be resting on some white paper covering the workbench surface, and in front of a stack of planks, which would suggest an alternative woodworking use for these tools. 1496) This looks like a very rusty and old pneumatic door closer. It is attached to the door frame and to the door, and controls how quickly the door is allowed to close under spring force. 1497) Interesting combination tool. It is at least a hammer, a claw for removing nails, a one-way wrench to use on two diameters of pipe, pullers for smaller nails which are not fully seated, perhaps a wire stripper to remove insulation from electrical wire, a wrench for two sizes of hex head bolt or nut, and a point for either stabbing into dirt, or for deburring the ID of cut off pipe. 1498) This looks to me like part of a folding brace for an awning. It would appear that yet another threaded part screws into the socket near the hinge, and the hinge has a ratchet to hold it opened to various degrees. 1499) Too small -- otherwise I would suggest that it is part of an early design of handcuffs. Maybe it is for securing a rifle barrel in a firearms rack -- probably in a military barracks. 1500) Looks like something for holding either flowers or a candle attached to the wall. If the latter, I think that it is too close for safety. Now to see what others have said. Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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What is it? Set 264
"E Z Peaces" wrote in message .. . Rob H. wrote: I plan to go back to the usual schedule next week: http://55tools.blogspot.com/ Rob 1500: The casting looks as if it could have been a fragmentation sleeve for an early stick grenade. The purpose may have been to use the head of a grenade as a booby trap. The paddle would have been to secure the grenade so a trip line would work. A booby trap could reveal somebody sneaking up on your trench or kill an attacker who jumped into a crater. Correct, it's a grenade that could also have been used with a wire as a trap. Rob |
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What is it? Set 264
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:45:43 -0500, "Rob H." wrote:
I plan to go back to the usual schedule next week: http://55tools.blogspot.com/ 1495. Height gages. I'm going to guess that they were used by pattern makers for holding "shrink rules" -- rules used for laying out patterns that are graduated with scales proportional to the shrinkage of the metal to be cast. Using the proper shrink rule allows the pattern maker to work to the dimensions of the cooled casting without calculating the shrink for each feature. -- Ned Simmons |
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What is it? Set 264
Rob H. wrote:
"E Z Peaces" wrote in message .. . Rob H. wrote: I plan to go back to the usual schedule next week: http://55tools.blogspot.com/ Rob 1500: The casting looks as if it could have been a fragmentation sleeve for an early stick grenade. The purpose may have been to use the head of a grenade as a booby trap. The paddle would have been to secure the grenade so a trip line would work. A booby trap could reveal somebody sneaking up on your trench or kill an attacker who jumped into a crater. Correct, it's a grenade that could also have been used with a wire as a trap. Rob Correct? Wow, I spun my yarn on the basis of the indentations in the casting! The French issued pipe bombs on paddles, which the English called racquet grenades. Apparently the French called them calendiers. Grenades had been used since the 1600s. In the Crimean War, the British had made them from soda bottles. If this is a racquet grenade, I think "grenade" is misleading. I don't think it was made for throwing. The handle of a stick grenade moved the weight of the head well away from the wrist, presumably for increased range. This paddle adds weight but doesn't move the head far from the wrist. Also, the wood would interfere with approximately half the shrapnel. If it landed at the enemy's feet with the board side up, the explosion might be harmless. The handle looks a little wide for a grip. Suppose troops went along 20 yards in front of their trench using a pipe and hammer to make holes in the ground as wide as the handles. They'd put the handle in the hole, then tamp dirt around it. Now the wide handle would resist the pull of a trip line from the iron side of the device. The troops would probably drive small stakes, perhaps ten yards in front, to fasten trip lines. Then they would return to their trench and a specialist would install the explosives and trip lines. If this is a racquet grenade and a racquet grenade was actually an antipersonnel mine, the wide board makes sense. It would reduce the killing radius on the "friendly" side. |
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What is it? Set 264
If this is a racquet grenade and a racquet grenade was actually an antipersonnel mine, the wide board makes sense. It would reduce the killing radius on the "friendly" side. Sounds reasonable, though I think I would prefer a thicker piece of wood if it was meant to protect against shrapnel. The rest of the answers have been posted, except for number 1498, which is still unidentified: http://answers264c.blogspot.com/ Rob |
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What is it? Set 264
Rob H. wrote:
If this is a racquet grenade and a racquet grenade was actually an antipersonnel mine, the wide board makes sense. It would reduce the killing radius on the "friendly" side. Sounds reasonable, though I think I would prefer a thicker piece of wood if it was meant to protect against shrapnel. Is it about an inch thick? The MK2 "pineapple grenade" had big shrapnel like the racquet grenade. It could inflict casualties up to 10 yards or so. I infer that the fragments were slower and more easily stopped than most pistol rounds. I wish I knew where to research the paddle device! |
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What is it? Set 264
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:12:39 -0500, E Z Peaces
wrote: Rob H. wrote: If this is a racquet grenade and a racquet grenade was actually an antipersonnel mine, the wide board makes sense. It would reduce the killing radius on the "friendly" side. Sounds reasonable, though I think I would prefer a thicker piece of wood if it was meant to protect against shrapnel. Is it about an inch thick? The MK2 "pineapple grenade" had big shrapnel like the racquet grenade. It could inflict casualties up to 10 yards or so. I infer that the fragments were slower and more easily stopped than most pistol rounds. I wish I knew where to research the paddle device! It had a Lethal range of 15 yrds...and a wounding radius of about 50 yrds or more. Gunner "[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core, and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr |
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What is it? Set 264
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:46:51 -0500, "Rob H."
wrote: snip The rest of the answers have been posted... http://answers264c.blogspot.com/ Rob A bit late with this... Here is a nice old catalog page showing the bicycle lock for sale (Item 1499): http://ia310110.us.archive.org/zipvi...&file=0042.jpg or http://tinyurl.com/7do7tg -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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"Leon Fisk" wrote in message ... On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:46:51 -0500, "Rob H." wrote: snip The rest of the answers have been posted... http://answers264c.blogspot.com/ Rob A bit late with this... Here is a nice old catalog page showing the bicycle lock for sale (Item 1499): http://ia310110.us.archive.org/zipvi...&file=0042.jpg or http://tinyurl.com/7do7tg Thanks, I did some searching but hadn't found anything. Rob |
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:12:39 -0500, E Z Peaces wrote: Rob H. wrote: If this is a racquet grenade and a racquet grenade was actually an antipersonnel mine, the wide board makes sense. It would reduce the killing radius on the "friendly" side. Sounds reasonable, though I think I would prefer a thicker piece of wood if it was meant to protect against shrapnel. Is it about an inch thick? The MK2 "pineapple grenade" had big shrapnel like the racquet grenade. It could inflict casualties up to 10 yards or so. I infer that the fragments were slower and more easily stopped than most pistol rounds. I wish I knew where to research the paddle device! It had a Lethal range of 15 yrds...and a wounding radius of about 50 yrds or more. Gunner I have no experience with the MK2. My source is Ledgard's /Soldier's Handbook, Volume 1/. It says the bursting radius is 10 yards. I took that to be the limit where it was likely to produce casualties. I used the M26, an improved grenade with the same weight as the MK2. They say both kinds can throw shrapnel 250 yards, but there's little chance of injury. The lethal radius of the M26 was 5 meters. The casualty radius was 15. Helmets and body armor were excellent protection. They weren't reliable protection against bullets. |
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What is it? Set 264
On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:55:00 -0500, E Z Peaces
wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:12:39 -0500, E Z Peaces wrote: Rob H. wrote: If this is a racquet grenade and a racquet grenade was actually an antipersonnel mine, the wide board makes sense. It would reduce the killing radius on the "friendly" side. Sounds reasonable, though I think I would prefer a thicker piece of wood if it was meant to protect against shrapnel. Is it about an inch thick? The MK2 "pineapple grenade" had big shrapnel like the racquet grenade. It could inflict casualties up to 10 yards or so. I infer that the fragments were slower and more easily stopped than most pistol rounds. I wish I knew where to research the paddle device! It had a Lethal range of 15 yrds...and a wounding radius of about 50 yrds or more. Gunner I have no experience with the MK2. My source is Ledgard's /Soldier's Handbook, Volume 1/. It says the bursting radius is 10 yards. I took that to be the limit where it was likely to produce casualties. I used the M26, an improved grenade with the same weight as the MK2. They say both kinds can throw shrapnel 250 yards, but there's little chance of injury. The lethal radius of the M26 was 5 meters. The casualty radius was 15. Helmets and body armor were excellent protection. They weren't reliable protection against bullets. The old pineapple had IRRC, 18 segments that traveled when it burst. Those could go a fair way, but it was a black powder charge, a low velocity projectile. Gunner "[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core, and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr |
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What is it? Set 264
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:55:00 -0500, E Z Peaces wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:12:39 -0500, E Z Peaces wrote: Rob H. wrote: If this is a racquet grenade and a racquet grenade was actually an antipersonnel mine, the wide board makes sense. It would reduce the killing radius on the "friendly" side. Sounds reasonable, though I think I would prefer a thicker piece of wood if it was meant to protect against shrapnel. Is it about an inch thick? The MK2 "pineapple grenade" had big shrapnel like the racquet grenade. It could inflict casualties up to 10 yards or so. I infer that the fragments were slower and more easily stopped than most pistol rounds. I wish I knew where to research the paddle device! It had a Lethal range of 15 yrds...and a wounding radius of about 50 yrds or more. Gunner I have no experience with the MK2. My source is Ledgard's /Soldier's Handbook, Volume 1/. It says the bursting radius is 10 yards. I took that to be the limit where it was likely to produce casualties. I used the M26, an improved grenade with the same weight as the MK2. They say both kinds can throw shrapnel 250 yards, but there's little chance of injury. The lethal radius of the M26 was 5 meters. The casualty radius was 15. Helmets and body armor were excellent protection. They weren't reliable protection against bullets. The old pineapple had IRRC, 18 segments that traveled when it burst. Those could go a fair way, but it was a black powder charge, a low velocity projectile. Gunner I think the black-powder grenades went out with the 19th Century. I think the French F1 may have been the original pineapple grenade. Lots of countries seem to call their grenades F1s. I read about a modern F1 that uses steel balls. The lethal radius is 6m, casualty radius 15m, and safe radius 30m. That's closer to the 50m you mentioned. After you mentioned black powder, I was surprised to learn that two versions of the US MK2 used smokeless powder because TNT could cause "over fragmentation." At 2 meters, the surface of a sphere would be about 50 square meters. If a grenade produced only 18 fragments, it seems likely that somebody standing 2 meters away would not be hit. (I haven't experimented!) That seems to be a shortcoming of pineapple grenades. Slow projectiles tend to transfer their kinetic energy to what they hit, so it seems feasible that a board attached to a grenade could protect somebody 10 meters away although the board would be destroyed. |
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In article , Rob H. wrote:
I plan to go back to the usual schedule next week: http://55tools.blogspot.com/ 1496: Wheel-operated pump. 1497: Hammer used for tearing down walls (the gap in the head looks just right to wrap around a 2x4 and twist) 1499: Padlock 1500: grenade on a spatula -- It's times like these which make me glad my bank is Dial-a-Mattress |
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"E Z Peaces" wrote in message . .. Rob H. wrote: If this is a racquet grenade and a racquet grenade was actually an antipersonnel mine, the wide board makes sense. It would reduce the killing radius on the "friendly" side. Sounds reasonable, though I think I would prefer a thicker piece of wood if it was meant to protect against shrapnel. Is it about an inch thick? The MK2 "pineapple grenade" had big shrapnel like the racquet grenade. It could inflict casualties up to 10 yards or so. I infer that the fragments were slower and more easily stopped than most pistol rounds. The wood was probably closer to 3/4" thick. I would have answered this question sooner but I thought I might be able to take another look at it since I was planning to be in the area where I saw it, but I had a change of plans and didn't make it out in that direction. Rob |
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