Silvan writes:


[...]

It fell a few years ago, so it won't be green. It might be spalted though.

So be careful if working it, its dust might be rather hazardous to
your health.

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Wed, Jan 14, 2004, 4:40pm (EST+5) (Bob=A0G)
says:
snip BUT I would never sell my machine...just offers way too much fun
and relaxation...

Gods yes. Don't need to make a thing, it's fun just to put a chunk
of wood in, and turn it down. But, if nothing else, always nice to turn
some mallets. Only had mine for about 8 years, I guess, $129 HF model,
works just fine.

JOAT
You have two choices in life: You can dissolve into the mainstream, or
you can be distinct. To be distinct is to be different. To be different,
you must strive to be what no one else but you can be.
- Alan Ashley-Pitt=A0=A0=A0

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
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Some tunes I like.
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T. wrote:

Gods yes. Don't need to make a thing, it's fun just to put a chunk
of wood in, and turn it down.

Fun to play "how much can I peel." I got almost all the way to the center
once before the shaving finally broke.

But, if nothing else, always nice to turn
some mallets. Only had mine for about 8 years, I guess, $129 HF model,
works just fine.

Turned mallets are *awesome*. I had been using a rubber mallet for chisel
and other similar work. I had been meaning to buy a real mallet some day,
but never got around to it. Now I have two really nice ones, with just the
shape I wanted.

They sure are nice to use. I can also beat the living crap out of them,
since I can always make more.

--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
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Sat, Jan 17, 2004, 11:17am (Silvan)
says:
snip They sure are nice to use. I can also beat the living crap out of
them, since I can always make more.

Ah, now you're starting to learn. Use different types of wood,
even pine, make different sizes/lengths, and you wind up with mallets of
different weights. It's nice to have a real light one, so you can make
the real delicate cuts, even if you whack the chisel a bit harder than
you had intended. And, to have a honkin' big one, so you can really
beat on something. So far, the only one of mine that should be
replaced, is the one the dog got ahold of, and chewed up, but it's still
usable, so I haven't made another, yet..

JOAT
You have two choices in life: You can dissolve into the mainstream, or
you can be distinct. To be distinct is to be different. To be different,
you must strive to be what no one else but you can be.
- Alan Ashley-Pitt=A0=A0=A0

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 15 Jan 2004.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofal...OMETUNESILIKE/

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 02:59:39 -0200, "Puff Griffis"
wrote:

Because of this irritating thread I went out and bought the cheapest
lathe that HF had. It was the $129 old model but I got if for $79 since
it is discontinued. Anyway so I set it up and having never used a
lathe before I actually read the 3 pages of instructions and off I went.
I now have 7 honey dippers a candle holder and a dice cup. What a hoot.
Puff

This points out one of the great things about a lathe - you really
don't need an expensive or fancy one to do awfully nice (and fun)
work. I have my Dad's old Sears Companion lathe he got maybe 35 years
ago. It's turned a lot of miscellaneous chair rungs, wooden mallets,
candlesticks etc. and probably didn't cost much over $100 new.

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

First off, I wouldn't own a lathe. You see you can't make flutes or
reeds with a lathe. You can't make rope like spirals with a lathe. You
can't make exact duplication with a lathe. You can't make rosettes,
mortises, tenons, contours, dadoes and arches.

What I would buy is a Legacy Ornamental Milling machine.
www.legacywoodworking.com If you are planning on a lathe, you should
see this machine first. Call for their free DVD at 1-800-279-4570

Remember, you have to almost be experienced when using a lathe. If you
are turning a couple of spindles and one turns out smaller than the
other, you are wasting material. With this machine, there is no real
experience needed.

A LATHE IS A WASTE OF MONEY AFTER YOU SEE THIS MACHINE.

--
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On 14 Jan 2004 16:04:08 GMT, ntiSpam (NoNameAtAll)
wrote:

need to make any of those things. Actually making a homemade baseball bat would
be kind of neat but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that. If you
can help me convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the usefulness of
a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
Can't do that. But......
I needed a bunch of handles for chisels I bought on ebay, couldn't
swing the price of a lathe so, as I had an old article on pole lathes
(bungee cord lathes) I just built my own. Making your own tools is a
really enjoyable experience.
It is tough standing on one leg and pumping the lathe with the other
but the whole operation was fun.....and inexpensive.
I turned out about 8 handles, had a lot of fun learning something of
the bodger's trade, and should I need to do any more turning, that is
the way I will do it (with some modifications this time of course
....and probably some more the next time).

If you are interested just do a Google search on pole lathe for a lot
of good links. And someplace on my computer I have the articles
scanned in if you think you would like to try it.

Kiyu



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So how do you make a stair spindle that looks like rope which has been
untwisted and hollow in the center? Can you do that on a lathe?

BTW you can make a set of salad bowls, matching and exactly the same
size with so little measuring.

--

Lazarus=A0Long wrote

There's lots to do - bowls, plates, spindles, chair legs and so on.

It sounds like you want the lathe to produce a whole project. That it
can do, limited only by what you think up.

If you're at all interested in chairmaking, you'll need one to make
chair parts. This is where it's a lieutenant in the process of making
something, like a jointer. You have a jointer, right? Yet the jointer
itself does make a finished item, it is something that's used
in the process. So it can be with a lathe.



NoNameAtAll wrote:

Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my
favorite tools in shop class. I'd love to own one, but
I'm having a difficult time convncing my wife that I
need it. We just made candle holders in shop class,
and while I'm sure it's great for things like table
legs, lamps, and baseball bats I have to concede
that I really can't think of any practical uses for it
since I don't have any need to make any of those
things. Actually making a homemade baseball
bat would be kind of neat but it's tough to justify
buying a lathe just for that. If you can help me
convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the
usefulness of a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.

--
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And if you show the SWMBO how the legacy works, she'll be begging you to
buy is so she can use it. Then you'll never regret the decision.

--
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When you can make 4 stair spindles an hour that has bumps, knobs, tapers
and spirals an hour on your lathe, you are getting your worth from it.
However, you can make a 28 stair style set, identical on a legacy in one
day and sell them for $50 plus each. ($1400)




NoNameAtAll wrote:

...need to make any of those things. Actually making
a homemade baseball bat would be kind of neat
but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that.
If you can help me convince my wife (and myself
for that matter) of the usefulness of a lathe I'll be
eternally grateful.


Kiyu wrote

Can't do that. But......
I needed a bunch of handles for chisels I bought on ebay,
couldn't swing the price of a lathe so, as I had an old article on pole
lathes (bungee cord lathes) I just built my own. Making your own tools
is a really enjoyable experience.

It is tough standing on one leg and pumping the lathe with the other
but the whole operation was fun.....and inexpensive. I turned
out about 8 handles, had a lot of fun learning something of the
bodger's trade, and should I need to do any more turning, that is
the way I will do it (with some modifications this time of course
...and probably some more the next time).
If you are interested
just do a Google search on pole lathe for a lot of good links. And
someplace on my computer I have the articles scanned in if you
think you would like to try it.

Kiyu

--
Woody


Check out my Web Page at:

http://community-1.webtv.net/Woodwor...workerJoesInfo

Where you will find:

******** How My Shop Works ******** 5-21-03

* * * Build a $20 DC Separator Can Lid. 1-14-03
* * * DC Relay Box Building Plans. 1-14-03
* * * The Bad Air Your Breath Everyday.1-14-03
* * * What is a Real Woodworker? 2-8-03
* * * Murphy's Woodworking Definitions. 2-8-03
* * * Murphy's Woodworking Laws. 4-6-03
* * * What is the true meaning of life? 1-14-03
* * * Woodworker Shop Signs. 2-8-03

[Woody Peckerwood holds forth with blather, concluding...]

A LATHE IS A WASTE OF MONEY AFTER YOU SEE THIS MACHINE.

And this spam is a waste of bandwidth.

So Joe, how fun is the Legacy ? I work with wood because I enjoy it. =
That's all its not to make a living its to have fun. Sure I supplement =
my income a bit with the things I make but I have FUN. Get my point ?
Puff

"Joe "Woody" Woodpecker" wrote in message =
...
When you can make 4 stair spindles an hour that has bumps, knobs, =
tapers
and spirals an hour on your lathe, you are getting your worth from it.
However, you can make a 28 stair style set, identical on a legacy in =
one
day and sell them for $50 plus each. ($1400)
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NoNameAtAll wrote:
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but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that.=20
If you can help me convince my wife (and myself=20
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eternally grateful.=20
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Kiyu wrote
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I needed a bunch of handles for chisels I bought on ebay,=20
couldn't swing the price of a lathe so, as I had an old article on =
pole=20
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It is tough standing on one leg and pumping the lathe with the other=20
but the whole operation was fun.....and inexpensive. I turned=20
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bodger's trade, and should I need to do any more turning, that is=20
the way I will do it (with some modifications this time of course=20
...and probably some more the next time).=20
If you are interested=20
just do a Google search on pole lathe for a lot of good links. And=20
someplace on my computer I have the articles scanned in if you=20
think you would like to try it.=20
=20
Kiyu
=20
--
Woody
=20
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Check out my Web Page at:=20
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http://community-1.webtv.net/Woodwor...workerJoesInfo
=20
Where you will find:
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******** How My Shop Works ******** 5-21-03
=20
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* * * DC Relay Box Building Plans. 1-14-03
* * * The Bad Air Your Breath Everyday.1-14-03
* * * What is a Real Woodworker? 2-8-03
* * * Murphy's Woodworking Definitions. 2-8-03
* * * Murphy's Woodworking Laws. 4-6-03
* * * What is the true meaning of life? 1-14-03
* * * Woodworker Shop Signs. 2-8-03

Sat, Jan 17, 2004, 8:31pm (EST-2)
(Joe=A0"Woody"=A0Woodpecker) claims:
First off, I wouldn't own a lathe. You see you can't make flutes or
reeds with a lathe. You can't make rope like spirals with a lathe. You
can't make exact duplication with a lathe. =A0 You can't make rosettes,
mortises, tenons, contours, dadoes and arches. snip

The last sentence, I don't know about. But, the other things in
that paragraph, yes, they actually can be done on a lathe. No biggie.
Try reading a book or two on the subject.

JOAT
You have two choices in life: You can dissolve into the mainstream, or
you can be distinct. To be distinct is to be different. To be different,
you must strive to be what no one else but you can be.
- Alan Ashley-Pitt=A0=A0=A0

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 15 Jan 2004.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofal...OMETUNESILIKE/

Joe "Woody" Woodpecker said:

What I would buy is a Legacy Ornamental Milling machine.
www.legacywoodworking.com If you are planning on a lathe, you should
see this machine first. Call for their free DVD at 1-800-279-4570

This is pretty heavy handed 'enthusiasm' for a product.
What... Did you get a new job? Arranged for kickbacks? g

A LATHE IS A WASTE OF MONEY AFTER YOU SEE THIS MACHINE.

Unless you turn bowls, pens, or simply enjoy using a lathe...
Not everyone wants to make 200 ornamental spindles.

FWIW,

Greg G.

T. wrote:

Ah, now you're starting to learn. Use different types of wood,

I got a lathe for Christmas. A JET mini. Fun, but a black hole for time.
My shop smells like wet maple. Every surface in my shop is covered in wet
maple. I have my turning tools laying on the table saw, which hasn't been
turned on since Christmas. My workbench is covered with various bits of
wet maple in various stages of being cut up or split.

(My neighbor pruned her maple tree. My practice stock is a couple hundred
bf of maple in sizes ranging from 1" to 6" in diameter. More of the
latter, of course. Not sure what I'll do with the really small stuff.
Maybe have a nice bonfire at Beltane.)

you had intended. And, to have a honkin' big one, so you can really
beat on something. So far, the only one of mine that should be

I made one out of a 5x5 piece of red oak dunnage. It's whatever circle you
can reduce a 5" square to, and pretty damn solid.

I have several different ones now, and beat the hell out of them with
abandon. I can always make more.

--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Tim Douglass wrote:

This points out one of the great things about a lathe - you really
don't need an expensive or fancy one to do awfully nice (and fun)
work. I have my Dad's old Sears Companion lathe he got maybe 35 years
ago. It's turned a lot of miscellaneous chair rungs, wooden mallets,
candlesticks etc. and probably didn't cost much over $100 new.

Yeah, just don't say this too loud over on the woodturning newsgroup.
They'll start talking about how if it doesn't weigh twice as much as your
old Volkswagen, it's a piece of junk.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Silvan writes:


[...]


(My neighbor pruned her maple tree. My practice stock is a couple hundred
bf of maple in sizes ranging from 1" to 6" in diameter. More of the
latter, of course. Not sure what I'll do with the really small stuff.

What a most unusual tree! Most trees that *I* know have more thin than
thick branches...

--
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Phone: +49 228 73 2447 FAX ... 7869
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CERN: Phone: +412276 76461 Fax: ..77930 Bat. 892-R-A13 CH-1211 Geneve 23

Yes Joe but sell to who or whom? my shop has been open for months and I am
having a hell of a time finding customers.
"Joe "Woody" Woodpecker" wrote in message
...
When you can make 4 stair spindles an hour that has bumps, knobs, tapers
and spirals an hour on your lathe, you are getting your worth from it.
However, you can make a 28 stair style set, identical on a legacy in one
day and sell them for $50 plus each. ($1400)




NoNameAtAll wrote:

...need to make any of those things. Actually making
a homemade baseball bat would be kind of neat
but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that.
If you can help me convince my wife (and myself
for that matter) of the usefulness of a lathe I'll be
eternally grateful.


Kiyu wrote

Can't do that. But......
I needed a bunch of handles for chisels I bought on ebay,
couldn't swing the price of a lathe so, as I had an old article on pole
lathes (bungee cord lathes) I just built my own. Making your own tools
is a really enjoyable experience.

It is tough standing on one leg and pumping the lathe with the other
but the whole operation was fun.....and inexpensive. I turned
out about 8 handles, had a lot of fun learning something of the
bodger's trade, and should I need to do any more turning, that is
the way I will do it (with some modifications this time of course
...and probably some more the next time).
If you are interested
just do a Google search on pole lathe for a lot of good links. And
someplace on my computer I have the articles scanned in if you
think you would like to try it.

Kiyu

--
Woody


Check out my Web Page at:

http://community-1.webtv.net/Woodwor...workerJoesInfo

Where you will find:

******** How My Shop Works ******** 5-21-03

* * * Build a $20 DC Separator Can Lid. 1-14-03
* * * DC Relay Box Building Plans. 1-14-03
* * * The Bad Air Your Breath Everyday.1-14-03
* * * What is a Real Woodworker? 2-8-03
* * * Murphy's Woodworking Definitions. 2-8-03
* * * Murphy's Woodworking Laws. 4-6-03
* * * What is the true meaning of life? 1-14-03
* * * Woodworker Shop Signs. 2-8-03

What can you do with a lathe?

1. Cover yourself with wood chips
2. Make ugly candlesticks for everyone you've ever known
3. Make enough small bowls to serve peanuts to those poor people who
have your candlesticks
4. Bend over for hours at that very awkward angle that kills your
back - worse than making a bed
5. Get a lot of practice sharpening things that have strange shapes

I'm a little slow on the uptake, but try this link:

http://www.outofcontrol-woodturning.com/FAVORITE.html

It's a bunch of woodturning links. If you and your wife can find some
things there that get your, uh, lathe spinning, then a lathe might be
a worthwhile investment. Also, check out rec.crafts.woodturning and
do an Internet search for segmented turnings. They're really quite
amazing, and inexpensive to make (if you believe what the master
turners say).

I started doing some research on getting a lathe (thanks a pantload,
Silvan g) and have decided that I can't possibly produce another
project until I have one of these amazing machines.

My problem is that I have Buy The Last One First Syndrome. I won't be
satisfied with anything less than top-notch. I held off on buying a
table saw for a year and a half because I couldn't find a cabinet saw
for a decent price. Now I have one, and couldn't be happier. Well,
until I discovered I needed a Oneway lathe.

-Phil Crow

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 01:35:48 -0500, Silvan
wrote:

Tim Douglass wrote:

This points out one of the great things about a lathe - you really
don't need an expensive or fancy one to do awfully nice (and fun)
work. I have my Dad's old Sears Companion lathe he got maybe 35 years
ago. It's turned a lot of miscellaneous chair rungs, wooden mallets,
candlesticks etc. and probably didn't cost much over $100 new.

Yeah, just don't say this too loud over on the woodturning newsgroup.
They'll start talking about how if it doesn't weigh twice as much as your
old Volkswagen, it's a piece of junk.

Heh. It's bolted to a bench he built. 2x4 frame supporting 6 drawers
full of junk. It may weigh more than the truck you drive!

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

Juergen Hannappel wrote:

bf of maple in sizes ranging from 1" to 6" in diameter. More of the
latter, of course. Not sure what I'll do with the really small stuff.

What a most unusual tree! Most trees that *I* know have more thin than
thick branches...

Funny you should catch that. I said something different originally, then
discovered that I had accidentally deleted a big block of text when I read
through the post prior to sending it. I hastily rewrote that bit to fill
in the blank, and obviously got it wrong.

Very few 6" branches. Of course.

--
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http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Cape Cod Bob wrote:

4. Bend over for hours at that very awkward angle that kills your
back - worse than making a bed

Maybe different with a lathe designed to sit on the floor... I have my JET
mini on a stand made from two endtables stacked on top of each other and
nailed together. It's a great height.

5. Get a lot of practice sharpening things that have strange shapes

You can say that again. Sharpening these things is a large part of the
battle.

--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

You want to talk about fun. Well, fun is when you turn a pair of
spindals, each looking like twisted rope with a hollow center (left
twist and right twist) that has none of the strands touching, and you
install them on the chair or chest you are building.
Funiswhenyoumakeforafriendthestairstylesheneedeswh enheisbuildinghishouse.
FunisknowingthatyourturningisbetterthanNorms.

--
Woody


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* * * Murphy's Woodworking Laws. 4-6-03
* * * What is the true meaning of life? 1-14-03
* * * Woodworker Shop Signs. 2-8-03

Make a few samples of spindles that you can't buy at the local borg.
Show them you can make these for contractors on an as needed basis.
Make a book of samples and take them into the borg where they can show
the unique styles you can make to their contractors and customers. Let
the borg know you can make custom replacements of broken items. Contact
a home builder who may be interested in a special design. Build
furniture for a local consignment store. Build furniture for a local
interior designer.

BTW, A Legacy comes with a design pad that helps you design the shapes
you need.

Remember, a complex stair spindle with knobs, flutes, spirals and
contours only takes 15-20 minutes to make. You can make a whole set in
a day.

I bet Norm wishes he had one. He made a 48" round table with a three
leg pedestal base. He had to make a jig to do the tenons and morticing
on the base. This could have all been done on the Legacy when the base
was made.

Contact Legacy Ornamental Mills at 1-800-279-4570 or long on at
www.legacywoodworking.com for a free DVD.

--


jeffk wrote

Yes Joe but sell to who or whom? my shop has been open for
months and I am having a hell of a time finding customers.

--
Woody


Check out my Web Page at:

http://community-1.webtv.net/Woodwor...workerJoesInfo

Where you will find:

******** How My Shop Works ******** 5-21-03

* * * Build a $20 DC Separator Can Lid. 1-14-03
* * * DC Relay Box Building Plans. 1-14-03
* * * The Bad Air Your Breath Everyday.1-14-03
* * * What is a Real Woodworker? 2-8-03
* * * Murphy's Woodworking Definitions. 2-8-03
* * * Murphy's Woodworking Laws. 4-6-03
* * * What is the true meaning of life? 1-14-03
* * * Woodworker Shop Signs. 2-8-03

You want to talk about fun. Well, fun is when you turn a pair of
spindles, each looking like twisted rope with a hollow center (left
twist and right twist) that has none of the strands touching, and you
install them on the chair or chest you are building. Fun is when you
make for a friend the stair styles he needs when he is building his
house. Fun is knowing that your turning is better than Norm's. Fun is
knowing when you can make more stylish turnings that your friends that
just have a lathe. Fun is being able to complete a project because
you're not 'playing' on a lathe. Fun is seeing results in minutes. Fun
is turning several 2" dowels in a matter of minutes, all with an exact
duplication. Fun is knowing you don't have to spend $400 plus on a
lathe duplicator. Fun is knowing you don't have to make jigs to finish
a project.

Need I go on.

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Puff=A0Griffis wrote

So Joe, how fun is the Legacy ? I work with wood because I enjoy
it. That's all its not to make a living its to have fun. Sure I
supplement
my income a bit with the things I make but I have FUN. Get my
point ? Puff

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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 09:27:18 -0500, Cape Cod Bob
brought forth from the murky depths:

What can you do with a lathe?

1. Cover yourself with wood chips
2. Make ugly candlesticks for everyone you've ever known
3. Make enough small bowls to serve peanuts to those poor people who
have your candlesticks
4. Bend over for hours at that very awkward angle that kills your
back - worse than making a bed
5. Get a lot of practice sharpening things that have strange shapes

6. Cover your tools and equipment with wet wood and rust.
7. Spend an arm and a leg on gawdawfullyexpensive burl only to
have the bowl blow up in your face on the very last cut.
8. Spend $159 per new tool for each style new bowl you wish to make.

I could go on. I never felt the draw of the lathe, either, Bob.

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OK, I would like to see or even have an explanation on how you would
make a spindle that looks like a three wrap twisted rope, only none of
the twists are touching each other except where the rope connects to the
square ends. Now remember the center of the rope is hollow, no wood
there.

Or a pedestal base for a table which is 5" in diameter and has 12 flutes
on a 1" taper over 2'. Each flute is 1\2" deep. And if that is all
that is on it, can you make it in less than a half an hour?

Sure leaves a lot of free time to do other projects, instead of
"playing" on a project.

Why don't you call for a DVD? 1-800-279-4570. THIS IS NOT SPAM AS I
HAVE NO CONNECTION WITH THE COMPANY. I just know what is easy to use
for the novice.

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Group: rec.woodworking Date: Sun, Jan 18, 2004, 12:08am (MST+2) From:
(T.)
Sat, Jan 17, 2004, 8:31pm (EST-2)
(Joe=A0"Woody"=A0Woodpecker) claims:
First off, I wouldn't own a lathe. You see you can't make flutes or
reeds with a lathe. You can't make rope like spirals with a lathe. You
can't make exact duplication with a lathe. =A0 You can't make rosettes,
mortises, tenons, contours, dadoes and arches. snip
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0The last sentence, I don't know about.
But, the other things in that paragraph, yes, they actually can be done
on a lathe. No biggie. Try reading a book or two on the subject.
JOAT
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 20:31:06 -0700 (MST), (Joe
"Woody" Woodpecker) wrote:

snip

A LATHE IS A WASTE OF MONEY AFTER YOU SEE THIS MACHINE.


Go away and sell your junk elsewhere.

I saw it at the wood show when it was here in Denver. It can do
everything a lathe can do and more. And for the price it is about the
same.

Would you buy a TS if you couldn't put a dado blade on it?

When you are making pens, bowles or whatever, should everyone you make
be different and look as though it has a problem with it? What does
that say about your craftmanship.

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From: Greg G.

Joe "Woody" Woodpecker said:

What I would buy is a Legacy Ornamental Milling
machine. www.legacywoodworking.com If you are
planning on a lathe, you should see this machine
first. Call for their free DVD at 1-800-279-4570

This is pretty heavy handed 'enthusiasm' for a product.
What... Did you get a new job? Arranged for kickbacks? g

A LATHE IS A WASTE OF MONEY AFTER YOU SEE
THIS MACHINE.

Unless you turn bowls, pens, or simply enjoy using a lathe... Not
everyone wants to make 200 ornamental spindles.

FWIW,
Greg G.

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Sun, Jan 18, 2004, 11:33am (EST-2)
(Joe=A0"Woody"=A0Woodpecker) claims:
You want to talk about fun. Well, fun is when you turn a pair of
spindles, each looking like twisted rope with a hollow center (left
twist and right twist) that has none of the strands touching, and you
install them on the chair or chest you are building.

No ii's not. Might be fun to make one, just to make one, but most
of them are really kinds ugly, to me.

Fun is when you make for a friend the stair styles he needs when he is
building his house.

No, that would be helping out.

Fun is knowing that your turning is better than Norm's.

I don't care if my turning is better than Norm's or not. I don't
do things to show him, or anyone else up (well, I could makean
exception on that for Bob).

Fun is knowing when you can make more stylish turnings that your friends
that just have a lathe.

See above answer.

Fun is being able to complete a project because you're not 'playing' on
a lathe.

When I "play" on my lathe, I'm not doing a project, I'm having fun.

Fun is seeing results in minutes.

I don't have a time limit on my pjects, I 'm not mass producing
stuff, so I really don't care.

Fun is turning several 2" dowels in a matter of minutes, all with an
exact duplication.

Considering that if I needed 2" dowels, I'd be just as likely to
bandsaw the wood to size, then whittle them out with a knife, so exact
duplication just dosen't enter into it, somehow. Especially since I
only need dowels every few years.

Fun is knowing you don't have to spend $400 plus on a lathe duplicator.

No, fun is making a lathe duplicator, out of mostly scrap plywood,
probably. Seeing as I'm not a production shop, that'd be close enough.

Fun is knowing you don't have to make jigs to finish a project.

Fun is knowing I have to make jigs to finish a project.

Need I go on.

Please, no!!

JOAT
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you can be distinct. To be distinct is to be different. To be different,
you must strive to be what no one else but you can be.
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If *we* mention your name, will *we* get a discount on the price
when calling that number for that well engineered product?

Also, if someone posts an item on the rec saying how they prefer to
sharpen their shop pencil with a pocket knife or a chisel, will you
rebuke them for not having the latest electric pencil sharpener?

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Sun, Jan 18, 2004, 12:19pm (EST-2)
(Joe=A0"Woody"=A0Woodpecker) says:
OK, I would like to see or even have an explanation snip
Or a pedestal base snip

Told you. There's books can tell you how to do it.

can you make it in less than a half an hour?

I'm not a production shop. I do woodworking for fun. So, why in
the name of the Seven Bouncing Hells would I care if I could do it in
half an hour, or not? I'd probably be slobbering over the thought of a
machine that could do something like that, if I did woodworking for a
significant, or total, part of my living. But, I don't, so I don't
care. However, if I did do it for a living, I'd probably already know
about it, and have one, passed on it already. or be saving for one.

Sure leaves a lot of free time to do other projects, instead of
"playing" on a project.

My woodworking IS play. I don't HAVE to stretch a 3 hour project
out to 3 days, but I often do. I could do the same quality work in the
3 hours, but if I did that all the time, that'd be work, not fun.
Getting paid for some of my stuff is just gravy.

Why don't you call for a DVD? snip

Because I don't wan' no steenkin' DVD.

I just know what is easy to use for the novice.

Sounds more like you're pimping for the company. Mention it once,
then if anyone's interested, they can check it out. Anything more than
that, it's annoying.

If it's that simple, it also sounds like it would get very boring,
very fast.

JOAT
You have two choices in life: You can dissolve into the mainstream, or
you can be distinct. To be distinct is to be different. To be different,
you must strive to be what no one else but you can be.
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 20:31:06 -0700 (MST), (Joe
"Woody" Woodpecker) wrote:

First off, I wouldn't own a lathe. You see you can't make flutes or
reeds with a lathe.

You make a jig to go on it and add a router. I can flute with a
lathe, a router and a gutter jig made of three planks. For reeding I
don't even use the router, just a #66 Stanley.

You can't make rope like spirals with a lathe.

If I want spirals, I'll go and buy some of the plethora of '20s
"Jacobean" that's around, then saw them off. I get matching spirals
easily, and I reduce the amount of this ugly stuff that's still out
there dodging the firewood pile.

Then I'll gouge out my eyeballs for inflicting more of this bloody
mock Tudor on the world.

You can't make exact duplication with a lathe.

Nor can you with this. I can imagine it turning a baseball bat, but
lets see it make a gunstock or a pair of clogs..

You can't make rosettes,
mortises, tenons, contours, dadoes and arches.

I can make tenons with a froe if I want to, and on occasion I've don
it. However it's not the best way, and neither is your Legacy machine.


What I would buy is a Legacy Ornamental Milling machine.

This thing is 600 quid ! For that money I can have it hand-carved in
Bali. For 600 notes, I expect to get a Holtzappfell !

Here's a much cheaper version, if you really want barley-sugar twists

http://www.trendmachinery.co.uk/routerlathe/


A LATHE IS A WASTE OF MONEY AFTER YOU SEE THIS MACHINE.

Next you'll be telling me I need a few grands worth of tenoner before
I can make a rabbit hutch.

Sure, this is a great machine if you want to make twirlies all day,
and you have a need or market for that many twirlies. But if I wanted
to work in a twirly factory, I'd get a job in one. It's all too easy
to buy some expensive machines because they deliver factory production
levels, then find you must spend the next 25 years working on what's
now a production-line in a bank-owned factory to pay for them.

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 11:12:47 -0700 (MST), (Joe
"Woody" Woodpecker) wrote:



---snip stuff about a fancy router jig---


Joe-
I'm glad you like your tool. it sounds like a neat machine- I think
I'll go ahead and get some of the manufacturer's info. I have seen
this kind of thing before, and it looks very useful.

HOWEVER, the damn thing is not a lathe, so your posts are off topic
for this thread. if you want to discuss it further, please start a new
thread.

Bridger

(Joe "Woody" Woodpecker) wrote in 29985-4009FDFA-
:

First off, I wouldn't own a lathe. You see you can't make flutes or
reeds with a lathe. You can't make rope like spirals with a lathe. You
can't make exact duplication with a lathe. You can't make rosettes,
mortises, tenons, contours, dadoes and arches.........etc.

Didn't Sears market this years ago as The Router Crafter for like $50??

In article ,
Joe "Woody" Woodpecker wrote:

Need I go on.

One hopes not, but one has been disappointed before.

djb

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Andy Dingley wrote:

"Jacobean" that's around, then saw them off. I get matching spirals
easily, and I reduce the amount of this ugly stuff that's still out
there dodging the firewood pile.

LMAO!! Good on ya, Andy. The world will be a better place with that stuff
recycled into something less ugly.

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You just don't get it do you ? I ENJOY playing in my shop. I make =
cardboard boxes for a living I don't need to work when I get home I need =
to relax. Wood working fits the bill. If its making a oak end table for =
my Mother or scrolling out a dog out line clock for my Daughter, she is =
an Army M.P. in the K9 corps, or just turning a dice cup out of some =
scrap I laminated together. IT'S FUN GET IT.
Puff

"Joe "Woody" Woodpecker" wrote in message =
...

You want to talk about fun. Well, fun is when you turn a pair of
spindles, each looking like twisted rope with a hollow center (left
twist and right twist) that has none of the strands touching, and you
install them on the chair or chest you are building. Fun is when you
make for a friend the stair styles he needs when he is building his
house. Fun is knowing that your turning is better than Norm's. Fun is
knowing when you can make more stylish turnings that your friends that
just have a lathe. Fun is being able to complete a project because
you're not 'playing' on a lathe. Fun is seeing results in minutes. Fun
is turning several 2" dowels in a matter of minutes, all with an exact
duplication. Fun is knowing you don't have to spend $400 plus on a
lathe duplicator. Fun is knowing you don't have to make jigs to finish
a project.

Need I go on.

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=20
Puff Griffis wrote
=20
So Joe, how fun is the Legacy ? I work with wood because I enjoy=20
it. That's all its not to make a living its to have fun. Sure I
supplement=20
my income a bit with the things I make but I have FUN. Get my=20
point ? Puff

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Check out my Web Page at:=20

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Where you will find:

******** How My Shop Works ******** 5-21-03

* * * Build a $20 DC Separator Can Lid. 1-14-03
* * * DC Relay Box Building Plans. 1-14-03
* * * The Bad Air Your Breath Everyday.1-14-03
* * * What is a Real Woodworker? 2-8-03
* * * Murphy's Woodworking Definitions. 2-8-03
* * * Murphy's Woodworking Laws. 4-6-03
* * * What is the true meaning of life? 1-14-03
* * * Woodworker Shop Signs. 2-8-03

Joe Woody Woodpecker wrote about a bunch of esoteric stuff.

You know, I've never even wanted to make any of those things, much less
needed to. My lathe makes duplicates, copiers are an add-on if you
really want one. I find that a ruler, and pencil, and a caliper does
just fine for dupes. My lathe decreases my blood pressure and makes my
wife happy. Programming a machine to do something is enjoyable, it's
coding. Been there, done that.
Dave in Fairfax
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