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Dick Fitzwell December 30th 03 08:07 PM

HVLP Sprayer and Pancake Compressor
 
I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some finishes. I
started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC pancake
compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you have.

Thanks,
Dick Fitzwell



Tony Mo December 30th 03 08:58 PM

HVLP Sprayer and Pancake Compressor
 
Hi Dick,
Let me start by saying I have never used an HVLP sprayer. But, from what I
have read I believe your compressor will be too small. HVLP spray guns
would require something like a minimum of 7scfm and about 25 gallon tank.
However, if you want to try spraying finishes, take a look at a "Critter."
Check the Lee Valley website for a picture and description. catalogue
#03K03.01. They sell for $54.50 Canadian.
I have one and use it with my 2hp, 4gallon compressor. You wouldn't want to
paint your garage or your car with it but it works great if you are only
spraying medium to smaller projects like boxes, cabinet doors, drawers etc.
It uses standard mason jars to hold the finish. This is great because when
you do multiple coats you can just seal up the jar and re-use it later.
That's my 2 cents worth.

Keep your stick on the ice.
Tony

"Dick Fitzwell" wrote in message
...
I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some finishes. I
started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC pancake
compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you have.

Thanks,
Dick Fitzwell





Edwin Pawlowski December 30th 03 09:09 PM

HVLP Sprayer and Pancake Compressor
 

"Dick Fitzwell" wrote in message
...
I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some finishes. I
started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC pancake
compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you have.

Thanks,
Dick Fitzwell


Probably now, but look at the cfm of the compressor and compare it to the
air requirements of the sprayer you are considering. The first number
should be bigger than the second.



Mike G December 30th 03 10:28 PM

HVLP Sprayer and Pancake Compressor
 
The short answer is no, it isn't. Not with the conversion gun technology
available now.

Your options are to

1 - buy a big dual stage, oil lubed compressor, 3 HP plus putting out over
10 cfm at 90 psi with a 20 Gal tank, then buy a conversion gun to go with
it.

2 - Go to Wal Mart or equivalent or auto supply store and get a Campbell
Hausfeld non bleeder conventional gun, use it with you present compressor,
and forget HVLP for awhile

3 - Buy a Rockler or Harbor Freight starter HVLP system for $100.00 and get
your feet wet before investing lots of bucks. These units are not as
versatile in what they can spray but, with the right nozzle and viscosity,
they will spray common finishes and stains quite well.

4 - Jump off the high board and go for a Fuji, accuspray, turbinaire, etc,
high end HVLP system.

Notes.

An HVLP system, cheap or expensive, is no magic carpet ride to a perfect
finish and either flavor, as well as a conversion gun or conventional
system, are perfectly capable of giving you a perfect finish if you put the
work into it.

HVLP system benefits are in the fact that the low pressure high volume
results in less bounce back and over spray of material floating around in
the air and more finish on the piece. Naturally that means better use of the
finishing material. Transfer efficiency of a conventional system is about
35%, for a HVLP system 80% +

Judging from your post it would be far better for you if you were to do
considerably more independent research into the subject of spraying before
you even think about spending a dime.
--
Mike G.

Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Dick Fitzwell" wrote in message
...
I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some finishes. I
started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC pancake
compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you have.

Thanks,
Dick Fitzwell





AL December 30th 03 11:04 PM

HVLP Sprayer and Pancake Compressor
 
If you get a gravity feed HVLP gun (ie. the cup is on the top) and limit
your spraying to small areas, you should be ok.

"Dick Fitzwell" wrote in message
...
I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some finishes. I
started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC pancake
compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you have.

Thanks,
Dick Fitzwell





Denny B December 31st 03 12:33 AM

HVLP Sprayer and Pancake Compressor
 
I have a DevIlbiss 1Hp 7 gal compressor
and use a Sata MiniJet 2 and a Devilbiss SRi touch up gun
both these guns require 3.7 CFM.

Yes you can use a 2HP 6gal pancake with these guns.
PS. both the above guns are HVLP

Denny


"Dick Fitzwell" wrote in message
...
I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some finishes.

I
started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC pancake
compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you have.

Thanks,
Dick Fitzwell





Mike G December 31st 03 01:53 AM

HVLP Sprayer and Pancake Compressor
 
Interesting, they have gotten it that low, even if it is in a touch up gun.
What is the PSI required?

--
Mike G.

Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Denny B" wrote in message
...
I have a DevIlbiss 1Hp 7 gal compressor
and use a Sata MiniJet 2 and a Devilbiss SRi touch up gun
both these guns require 3.7 CFM.

Yes you can use a 2HP 6gal pancake with these guns.
PS. both the above guns are HVLP

Denny


"Dick Fitzwell" wrote in message
...
I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some finishes.

I
started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC pancake
compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you have.

Thanks,
Dick Fitzwell







Denny B December 31st 03 06:50 AM

HVLP Sprayer and Pancake Compressor
 
It is stamped on the gun handle.
29 PSI.

A touch up gun with a 8 oz cup
allows you to do much.

Denny.


"Mike G" wrote in message
...
Interesting, they have gotten it that low, even if it is in a touch

up gun.
What is the PSI required?

--
Mike G.

Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Denny B" wrote in message
...
I have a DevIlbiss 1Hp 7 gal compressor
and use a Sata MiniJet 2 and a Devilbiss SRi touch up gun
both these guns require 3.7 CFM.

Yes you can use a 2HP 6gal pancake with these guns.
PS. both the above guns are HVLP

Denny


"Dick Fitzwell" wrote in message
...
I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some

finishes.
I
started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC

pancake
compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you

have.

Thanks,
Dick Fitzwell









Denny B December 31st 03 06:56 AM

HVLP Sprayer and Pancake Compressor
 
These guns are gravity feed by the way.

Denny



"Denny B" wrote in message
...
It is stamped on the gun handle.
29 PSI.

A touch up gun with a 8 oz cup
allows you to do much.

Denny.


"Mike G" wrote in message
...
Interesting, they have gotten it that low, even if it is in a

touch
up gun.
What is the PSI required?

--
Mike G.

Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Denny B" wrote in message
...
I have a DevIlbiss 1Hp 7 gal compressor
and use a Sata MiniJet 2 and a Devilbiss SRi touch up gun
both these guns require 3.7 CFM.

Yes you can use a 2HP 6gal pancake with these guns.
PS. both the above guns are HVLP

Denny


"Dick Fitzwell" wrote in message
...
I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some

finishes.
I
started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC

pancake
compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you

have.

Thanks,
Dick Fitzwell











Mike G December 31st 03 02:04 PM

HVLP Sprayer and Pancake Compressor
 
Hi Denny

Thanks for the info. Sorry, wasn't implying that because it was a tough up
gun it wasn't a good thing.

--
Mike G.

Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Denny B" wrote in message
...
It is stamped on the gun handle.
29 PSI.

A touch up gun with a 8 oz cup
allows you to do much.

Denny.


"Mike G" wrote in message
...
Interesting, they have gotten it that low, even if it is in a touch

up gun.
What is the PSI required?

--
Mike G.

Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Denny B" wrote in message
...
I have a DevIlbiss 1Hp 7 gal compressor
and use a Sata MiniJet 2 and a Devilbiss SRi touch up gun
both these guns require 3.7 CFM.

Yes you can use a 2HP 6gal pancake with these guns.
PS. both the above guns are HVLP

Denny


"Dick Fitzwell" wrote in message
...
I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some

finishes.
I
started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC

pancake
compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you

have.

Thanks,
Dick Fitzwell











Denny B December 31st 03 04:12 PM

HVLP Sprayer and Pancake Compressor
 


Hi Denny

Thanks for the info. Sorry, wasn't implying that because it was a

tough up
gun it wasn't a good thing.


Mike, no I did not assume that is what you were implying
I just provided that for general information.
In summer I will be spraying my car with my touch up guns.
How can this be possible some may wonder? Its possible by
spraying sections of the car !

Denny



--
Mike G.

Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Denny B" wrote in message
...
It is stamped on the gun handle.
29 PSI.

A touch up gun with a 8 oz cup
allows you to do much.

Denny.


"Mike G" wrote in message
...
Interesting, they have gotten it that low, even if it is in a

touch
up gun.
What is the PSI required?

--
Mike G.

Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Denny B" wrote in message
...
I have a DevIlbiss 1Hp 7 gal compressor
and use a Sata MiniJet 2 and a Devilbiss SRi touch up gun
both these guns require 3.7 CFM.

Yes you can use a 2HP 6gal pancake with these guns.
PS. both the above guns are HVLP

Denny


"Dick Fitzwell" wrote in

message
...
I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some

finishes.
I
started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC

pancake
compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do

you
have.

Thanks,
Dick Fitzwell














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